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On March 26 2012 10:40 ChaosTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2012 10:38 honed wrote:On March 26 2012 10:35 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:31 honed wrote:On March 26 2012 10:28 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:24 honed wrote: i was like ~44 at highest maybe? idk if you would actually consider that mid tier. but i think thats good enough to have a decent grasp of game mechanics See, now you are lying. 44 in Halo2 was insanely high, I was 43 an that was at the very top of non-cheater levels, anything beyond 45 was 90% cheaters. If you were a 44 in Halo2 you would definitely be extremely proud of it because that is about as high as you could get without cheating every game. And someone with a 44 was extremely dedicated to the game, so you would definitely still know your gamertag. I can't think of any opponent I have ever met at 40+ that didn't at least have 5k games played in total. the cheating wasnt prominent in the entire lifespan of the playlist.. just for like the last whatever before they removed the leaderboards or whatever they did. i honestly didnt think id ever be discsussing halo 2 on a TL but.. whatever. No, cheating was always prominent in Halo2. You can stop lying now. Ask anyone on any haloforum, nobody had a legit 45, they were at the very least bridging host. So there is no way you were a legit 44 and dont even remember your gamertag, only very skilled and dedicated players would even come close to this level. i dont even know how to respond to idiots like this. i mean yes people cheated but there were less cheaters than your apocalyptic description. and i had multiple 35+ accounts back in the day. and to be honest this discussion has drifted ffffaaaaaarrrrrrrr off topic from what we were talking about before No, absolutely everyone was cheating at the top level. Stop lying now because you obviously have never played Halo2. Or else just name one of your various high level accounts so I can look it up for myself. Liars are so annoying. Dude, I played at the high end of matchmaking ok and I was only mid-tier compared to pros and I can guarantee you that it was almost impossible to find a legit game at that level. http://www.bungie.net/stats/PlayerStatsHalo2.aspx?player=ilonex&sg=3That's my profile, now link yours or shut up. Show nested quote +On March 26 2012 10:38 gosuMalicE wrote:On March 26 2012 10:28 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:24 honed wrote: i was like ~44 at highest maybe? idk if you would actually consider that mid tier. but i think thats good enough to have a decent grasp of game mechanics See, now you are lying. 44 in Halo2 was insanely high, I was 43 an that was at the very top of non-cheater levels, anything beyond 45 was 90% cheaters. If you were a 44 in Halo2 you would definitely be extremely proud of it because that is about as high as you could get without cheating every game. And someone with a 44 was extremely dedicated to the game, so you would definitely still know your gamertag. I can't think of any opponent I have ever met at 40+ that didn't at least have 5k games played in total. Are you serious? I was 44 in H2 and never considered myself a top player, you sound really full of yourself when you make that claim that 90% of the people with a higher rank then you was a cheater. As someone who came from a mainly shooter background to strategy games like starcraft and dota 2, I can reinforce that Halo at top skill level takes nowhere near the skill that a high skillcap RTS takes even at a moderately high (diamond+) skill level. Then link your account? I played at tops level in H2 matchmaking and know for a fact that it was full of cheaters. go to haloforum.eu and ask anyone there, they will tell you exactly the same. Well I haven't played H2 in a very long time but my gamertag at the time was PowerOverwhelming which doesn't even show up on the search so I assume a wipe was preformed since I last played it. Regardless I think you are full of shit, kids always call cheating when people beat them, Its at the point where if anyone with moderate shooter skill plays a game of MW or Battlefeild (the only shooters i have played in the last few years so I use them for example) Half the people in the game call hacks and you can get banned solely for being better then them so I would hardly call the opinion of a forum full of 12 year old shooter kids definitive proof of cheating.
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You had around a 30 in TS and a 20 in THC. You were nowhere near the level you claimed to be. 44 and 20 is a huge difference my friend. See, I knew for a fact you were lying because everyone with a 40+ knew that it was mainly cheaters.
On March 26 2012 10:54 gosuMalicE wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2012 10:40 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:38 honed wrote:On March 26 2012 10:35 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:31 honed wrote:On March 26 2012 10:28 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:24 honed wrote: i was like ~44 at highest maybe? idk if you would actually consider that mid tier. but i think thats good enough to have a decent grasp of game mechanics See, now you are lying. 44 in Halo2 was insanely high, I was 43 an that was at the very top of non-cheater levels, anything beyond 45 was 90% cheaters. If you were a 44 in Halo2 you would definitely be extremely proud of it because that is about as high as you could get without cheating every game. And someone with a 44 was extremely dedicated to the game, so you would definitely still know your gamertag. I can't think of any opponent I have ever met at 40+ that didn't at least have 5k games played in total. the cheating wasnt prominent in the entire lifespan of the playlist.. just for like the last whatever before they removed the leaderboards or whatever they did. i honestly didnt think id ever be discsussing halo 2 on a TL but.. whatever. No, cheating was always prominent in Halo2. You can stop lying now. Ask anyone on any haloforum, nobody had a legit 45, they were at the very least bridging host. So there is no way you were a legit 44 and dont even remember your gamertag, only very skilled and dedicated players would even come close to this level. i dont even know how to respond to idiots like this. i mean yes people cheated but there were less cheaters than your apocalyptic description. and i had multiple 35+ accounts back in the day. and to be honest this discussion has drifted ffffaaaaaarrrrrrrr off topic from what we were talking about before No, absolutely everyone was cheating at the top level. Stop lying now because you obviously have never played Halo2. Or else just name one of your various high level accounts so I can look it up for myself. Liars are so annoying. Dude, I played at the high end of matchmaking ok and I was only mid-tier compared to pros and I can guarantee you that it was almost impossible to find a legit game at that level. http://www.bungie.net/stats/PlayerStatsHalo2.aspx?player=ilonex&sg=3That's my profile, now link yours or shut up. On March 26 2012 10:38 gosuMalicE wrote:On March 26 2012 10:28 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:24 honed wrote: i was like ~44 at highest maybe? idk if you would actually consider that mid tier. but i think thats good enough to have a decent grasp of game mechanics See, now you are lying. 44 in Halo2 was insanely high, I was 43 an that was at the very top of non-cheater levels, anything beyond 45 was 90% cheaters. If you were a 44 in Halo2 you would definitely be extremely proud of it because that is about as high as you could get without cheating every game. And someone with a 44 was extremely dedicated to the game, so you would definitely still know your gamertag. I can't think of any opponent I have ever met at 40+ that didn't at least have 5k games played in total. Are you serious? I was 44 in H2 and never considered myself a top player, you sound really full of yourself when you make that claim that 90% of the people with a higher rank then you was a cheater. As someone who came from a mainly shooter background to strategy games like starcraft and dota 2, I can reinforce that Halo at top skill level takes nowhere near the skill that a high skillcap RTS takes even at a moderately high (diamond+) skill level. Then link your account? I played at tops level in H2 matchmaking and know for a fact that it was full of cheaters. go to haloforum.eu and ask anyone there, they will tell you exactly the same. Well I haven't played H2 in a very long time but my gamertag at the time was PowerOverwhelming which doesn't even show up on the search so I assume a wipe was preformed since I last played it. Regardless I think you are full of shit, kids always call cheating when people beat them, Its at the point where if anyone with moderate shooter skill plays a game of MW or Battlefeild (the only shooters i have played in the last few years so I use them for example) Half the people in the game call hacks and you can get banned solely for being better then them so I would hardly call the opinion of a forum full of 12 year old shooter kids definitive proof of cheating.
You have never played Halo2. www.haloforum.eu
Ask anyone there if 40+ wasn't full of cheaters. They'll tell you exactly the same. or even better visit the mlg forums and ask the same question there. Around 90% of all players at 45+ were cheating, and around 50% at around 40+ were cheating. ask them, please.
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On March 26 2012 10:53 Kitaen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2012 10:40 opterown wrote:On March 26 2012 10:36 Kitaen wrote:On March 26 2012 10:28 usethis2 wrote: MKP's TvZ is absolutely terrifying. His micro enables him to utilize uncommon unit combinations (or stupid unit combination on some other hands) successfully. And it seems like his attack always hits half a minute earlier than other Terrans when it comes to TvZ. Why bother with drops when you can crush your opponent head-on?
DRG needs to vary his strats if he were to beat MKP. I know Z doesn't have many tools but he is way too predictable. In a Bo9, he could have attempted a 6-pool which might have caught greedy strats like the CC-first. In every game, MKP wasn't threatened or felt danger at all. Even when he wasn't rushing, he simply did what he wanted to do with absolute freedom. That early game advantage paid off hugely for him, let alone his imppecable unit control.
If only such tactics worked for his TvT (and to some extent TvP), MKP would be untouchable. But for now, and it has been for long time IMO, MKP is the king of TvZ.
Edit: Oh, and I do think DRG has lost some touch on ZvT as he's been focusing way too much on (his previously weak) ZvP of late. actually they work even better versus protoss, thats why i consider him even better at tvp he pretty much stomped MC, Sase and Parting - and those guys (esp. Parting) have arguably the strongest pvt on the planet tvt is definitely his weakness right now, but i think thats more because of the volatile nature of tvt MarineKing, so far this year: 74% TvT (29-10) 61% TvZ (54-34) - in part due to 13 losses against DRG - without those 13 losses, he'd be 72% 83% TvP (48-10) overall 71% 131-54 chew on those numbers a bit and just see how much his vP and vT have improved. after seeing him play somehow clueless 2 rax all game in new york his tvz has improved by a mile, his tvp beeing godmode, thus leaving his tvt his only "weakness" if u want to call it like that
he needs to start base racing in TvT more
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On March 26 2012 10:55 ChaosTerran wrote:You had around a 30 in TS and a 20 in THC. You were nowhere near the level you claimed to be. 44 and 20 is a huge difference my friend. See, I knew for a fact you were lying because everyone with a 40+ knew that it was mainly cheaters. hang on leme find one of my other accounts to appease this idiot
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On March 26 2012 10:54 gosuMalicE wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2012 10:40 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:38 honed wrote:On March 26 2012 10:35 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:31 honed wrote:On March 26 2012 10:28 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:24 honed wrote: i was like ~44 at highest maybe? idk if you would actually consider that mid tier. but i think thats good enough to have a decent grasp of game mechanics See, now you are lying. 44 in Halo2 was insanely high, I was 43 an that was at the very top of non-cheater levels, anything beyond 45 was 90% cheaters. If you were a 44 in Halo2 you would definitely be extremely proud of it because that is about as high as you could get without cheating every game. And someone with a 44 was extremely dedicated to the game, so you would definitely still know your gamertag. I can't think of any opponent I have ever met at 40+ that didn't at least have 5k games played in total. the cheating wasnt prominent in the entire lifespan of the playlist.. just for like the last whatever before they removed the leaderboards or whatever they did. i honestly didnt think id ever be discsussing halo 2 on a TL but.. whatever. No, cheating was always prominent in Halo2. You can stop lying now. Ask anyone on any haloforum, nobody had a legit 45, they were at the very least bridging host. So there is no way you were a legit 44 and dont even remember your gamertag, only very skilled and dedicated players would even come close to this level. i dont even know how to respond to idiots like this. i mean yes people cheated but there were less cheaters than your apocalyptic description. and i had multiple 35+ accounts back in the day. and to be honest this discussion has drifted ffffaaaaaarrrrrrrr off topic from what we were talking about before No, absolutely everyone was cheating at the top level. Stop lying now because you obviously have never played Halo2. Or else just name one of your various high level accounts so I can look it up for myself. Liars are so annoying. Dude, I played at the high end of matchmaking ok and I was only mid-tier compared to pros and I can guarantee you that it was almost impossible to find a legit game at that level. http://www.bungie.net/stats/PlayerStatsHalo2.aspx?player=ilonex&sg=3That's my profile, now link yours or shut up. On March 26 2012 10:38 gosuMalicE wrote:On March 26 2012 10:28 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:24 honed wrote: i was like ~44 at highest maybe? idk if you would actually consider that mid tier. but i think thats good enough to have a decent grasp of game mechanics See, now you are lying. 44 in Halo2 was insanely high, I was 43 an that was at the very top of non-cheater levels, anything beyond 45 was 90% cheaters. If you were a 44 in Halo2 you would definitely be extremely proud of it because that is about as high as you could get without cheating every game. And someone with a 44 was extremely dedicated to the game, so you would definitely still know your gamertag. I can't think of any opponent I have ever met at 40+ that didn't at least have 5k games played in total. Are you serious? I was 44 in H2 and never considered myself a top player, you sound really full of yourself when you make that claim that 90% of the people with a higher rank then you was a cheater. As someone who came from a mainly shooter background to strategy games like starcraft and dota 2, I can reinforce that Halo at top skill level takes nowhere near the skill that a high skillcap RTS takes even at a moderately high (diamond+) skill level. Then link your account? I played at tops level in H2 matchmaking and know for a fact that it was full of cheaters. go to haloforum.eu and ask anyone there, they will tell you exactly the same. Well I haven't played H2 in a very long time but my gamertag at the time was PowerOverwhelming which doesn't even show up on the search so I assume a wipe was preformed since I last played it. Regardless I think you are full of shit, kids always call cheating when people beat them, Its at the point where if anyone with moderate shooter skill plays a game of MW or Battlefeild (the only shooters i have played in the last few years so I use them for example) Half the people in the game call hacks and you can get banned solely for being better then them so I would hardly call the opinion of a forum full of 12 year old shooter kids definitive proof of cheating. I can bring in Pros to completely tear apart your thoughts. Still got Lunchbox on my Friends List.
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On March 26 2012 10:36 Kitaen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2012 10:28 usethis2 wrote: MKP's TvZ is absolutely terrifying. His micro enables him to utilize uncommon unit combinations (or stupid unit combination on some other hands) successfully. And it seems like his attack always hits half a minute earlier than other Terrans when it comes to TvZ. Why bother with drops when you can crush your opponent head-on?
DRG needs to vary his strats if he were to beat MKP. I know Z doesn't have many tools but he is way too predictable. In a Bo9, he could have attempted a 6-pool which might have caught greedy strats like the CC-first. In every game, MKP wasn't threatened or felt danger at all. Even when he wasn't rushing, he simply did what he wanted to do with absolute freedom. That early game advantage paid off hugely for him, let alone his imppecable unit control.
If only such tactics worked for his TvT (and to some extent TvP), MKP would be untouchable. But for now, and it has been for long time IMO, MKP is the king of TvZ.
Edit: Oh, and I do think DRG has lost some touch on ZvT as he's been focusing way too much on (his previously weak) ZvP of late. actually they work even better versus protoss, thats why i consider him even better at tvp he pretty much stomped MC, Sase and Parting - and those guys (esp. Parting) have arguably the strongest pvt on the planet tvt is definitely his weakness right now, but i think thats more because of the volatile nature of tvt I don't think they work as they do in TvZ. MKP style control can't constantly trade units effectively against T/P's seige units (tank, colossus, high templar). Yes, MKP does have amazing records this year but if you look at the content of his games, his vT/vP are not the same as vZ. When you watch his TvT/TvP, there are times he is being careful (or seems scared) of incoming attack. For TvZ, there is no such thing for him. He doesn't even care whether his builds are scouted. He is so confident in his tight builds and micros he just moves out the moment he thinks he's ready, which is so fast that Z can't prepare adequately. Also note that he doesn't bother with drops or multi-prong harrass.
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On March 26 2012 10:10 Kitaen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2012 10:09 windsupernova wrote:On March 26 2012 10:08 Kitaen wrote: is this the new care about halo versions thread?
80% of all users here could not care less about shooters 97.95% of users here don't care about your opinion that's because they don't know who i am!
This is not a game of who the fuck are you.
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MKP goes 7-0, 17-4 in maps beating MC, ganzi, sase, crazymoving, thorzain, parting, and DRG in a bo9... not bad
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On March 26 2012 10:56 Femari wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2012 10:54 gosuMalicE wrote:On March 26 2012 10:40 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:38 honed wrote:On March 26 2012 10:35 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:31 honed wrote:On March 26 2012 10:28 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:24 honed wrote: i was like ~44 at highest maybe? idk if you would actually consider that mid tier. but i think thats good enough to have a decent grasp of game mechanics See, now you are lying. 44 in Halo2 was insanely high, I was 43 an that was at the very top of non-cheater levels, anything beyond 45 was 90% cheaters. If you were a 44 in Halo2 you would definitely be extremely proud of it because that is about as high as you could get without cheating every game. And someone with a 44 was extremely dedicated to the game, so you would definitely still know your gamertag. I can't think of any opponent I have ever met at 40+ that didn't at least have 5k games played in total. the cheating wasnt prominent in the entire lifespan of the playlist.. just for like the last whatever before they removed the leaderboards or whatever they did. i honestly didnt think id ever be discsussing halo 2 on a TL but.. whatever. No, cheating was always prominent in Halo2. You can stop lying now. Ask anyone on any haloforum, nobody had a legit 45, they were at the very least bridging host. So there is no way you were a legit 44 and dont even remember your gamertag, only very skilled and dedicated players would even come close to this level. i dont even know how to respond to idiots like this. i mean yes people cheated but there were less cheaters than your apocalyptic description. and i had multiple 35+ accounts back in the day. and to be honest this discussion has drifted ffffaaaaaarrrrrrrr off topic from what we were talking about before No, absolutely everyone was cheating at the top level. Stop lying now because you obviously have never played Halo2. Or else just name one of your various high level accounts so I can look it up for myself. Liars are so annoying. Dude, I played at the high end of matchmaking ok and I was only mid-tier compared to pros and I can guarantee you that it was almost impossible to find a legit game at that level. http://www.bungie.net/stats/PlayerStatsHalo2.aspx?player=ilonex&sg=3That's my profile, now link yours or shut up. On March 26 2012 10:38 gosuMalicE wrote:On March 26 2012 10:28 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:24 honed wrote: i was like ~44 at highest maybe? idk if you would actually consider that mid tier. but i think thats good enough to have a decent grasp of game mechanics See, now you are lying. 44 in Halo2 was insanely high, I was 43 an that was at the very top of non-cheater levels, anything beyond 45 was 90% cheaters. If you were a 44 in Halo2 you would definitely be extremely proud of it because that is about as high as you could get without cheating every game. And someone with a 44 was extremely dedicated to the game, so you would definitely still know your gamertag. I can't think of any opponent I have ever met at 40+ that didn't at least have 5k games played in total. Are you serious? I was 44 in H2 and never considered myself a top player, you sound really full of yourself when you make that claim that 90% of the people with a higher rank then you was a cheater. As someone who came from a mainly shooter background to strategy games like starcraft and dota 2, I can reinforce that Halo at top skill level takes nowhere near the skill that a high skillcap RTS takes even at a moderately high (diamond+) skill level. Then link your account? I played at tops level in H2 matchmaking and know for a fact that it was full of cheaters. go to haloforum.eu and ask anyone there, they will tell you exactly the same. Well I haven't played H2 in a very long time but my gamertag at the time was PowerOverwhelming which doesn't even show up on the search so I assume a wipe was preformed since I last played it. Regardless I think you are full of shit, kids always call cheating when people beat them, Its at the point where if anyone with moderate shooter skill plays a game of MW or Battlefeild (the only shooters i have played in the last few years so I use them for example) Half the people in the game call hacks and you can get banned solely for being better then them so I would hardly call the opinion of a forum full of 12 year old shooter kids definitive proof of cheating. I can bring in Pros to completely tear apart your thoughts. Still got Lunchbox on my Friends List.
Please do it. This guy has no idea what he's talking about. 40+ was full of cheaters. period.
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On March 26 2012 10:56 honed wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2012 10:55 ChaosTerran wrote:You had around a 30 in TS and a 20 in THC. You were nowhere near the level you claimed to be. 44 and 20 is a huge difference my friend. See, I knew for a fact you were lying because everyone with a 40+ knew that it was mainly cheaters. hang on leme find one of my other accounts to appease this idiot
Oh wait, so you couldn't make it past 20 on this account but you magically had a different account where you played 10 times better and made it to 44? Yeah...
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dude that website is so broken now.. none of my gts for even halo 3 are showing up
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On March 26 2012 10:46 Niteblade_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2012 10:43 Aemilia wrote:On March 26 2012 10:42 Niteblade_ wrote:On March 26 2012 10:40 opterown wrote:On March 26 2012 10:36 Kitaen wrote:On March 26 2012 10:28 usethis2 wrote: MKP's TvZ is absolutely terrifying. His micro enables him to utilize uncommon unit combinations (or stupid unit combination on some other hands) successfully. And it seems like his attack always hits half a minute earlier than other Terrans when it comes to TvZ. Why bother with drops when you can crush your opponent head-on?
DRG needs to vary his strats if he were to beat MKP. I know Z doesn't have many tools but he is way too predictable. In a Bo9, he could have attempted a 6-pool which might have caught greedy strats like the CC-first. In every game, MKP wasn't threatened or felt danger at all. Even when he wasn't rushing, he simply did what he wanted to do with absolute freedom. That early game advantage paid off hugely for him, let alone his imppecable unit control.
If only such tactics worked for his TvT (and to some extent TvP), MKP would be untouchable. But for now, and it has been for long time IMO, MKP is the king of TvZ.
Edit: Oh, and I do think DRG has lost some touch on ZvT as he's been focusing way too much on (his previously weak) ZvP of late. actually they work even better versus protoss, thats why i consider him even better at tvp he pretty much stomped MC, Sase and Parting - and those guys (esp. Parting) have arguably the strongest pvt on the planet tvt is definitely his weakness right now, but i think thats more because of the volatile nature of tvt MarineKing, so far this year: 74% TvT 61% TvZ (in part due to 13 losses against DRG - without those 13 losses, he'd be 72%) 83% TvP overall 71% chew on those numbers a bit and just see how much his vP and vT have improved. His vP was never really that bad (beat MC in the world tourney when he was crushing terrans), it was his vT that was infamous for being medicore. The vP thing is more in part do to metagame shifts as a whole, as well as him going through a slumpish phase While that's true I think you can see in his play that MKP has hit another level. This is true, but I think its a general increase, not just in 1-2 MUs. His vZ had a slump as well where he got slammed by some random zergs in a code s group (this is like spring of last year i think?) I agree, MKP is on an insane level right now. Will be curious to see if he can translate this into GSL success, where there is so much time to prepare for matchs (seeing as he is a ladder beast, and thus tournaments like MLG favour his experience over say, someone from SlayerS where they do team preping of builds and such for BoX series in advance)
Code S is just so incredibly hard to win. MMA was one of the best players in the world for six months before he won one. DRG was for even longer than that.
MC has been the best Protoss in the world for virtually the entire duration of Sc2 but hasn't even reached a Code S semi final in a year.
There's no Flash in Sc2 and there's just so many players who can beat anyone on their day that winning Code S has a lot of right place at the right time to it.
I feel like anyone out of Mvp, MKP, MMA, Jjakji, Polt, Alive, MC, Parting, Oz, Genius, Leenock, DRG and Nestea are capable of winning this next Code S with a decent draw and enough good days at the right time.
MKP could win, but he could also drop out in the first group stage but that won't mean he isn't one of the worlds best players just that there's a lot of players all about as good as each other.
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On March 26 2012 10:58 ChaosTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2012 10:56 Femari wrote:On March 26 2012 10:54 gosuMalicE wrote:On March 26 2012 10:40 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:38 honed wrote:On March 26 2012 10:35 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:31 honed wrote:On March 26 2012 10:28 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:24 honed wrote: i was like ~44 at highest maybe? idk if you would actually consider that mid tier. but i think thats good enough to have a decent grasp of game mechanics See, now you are lying. 44 in Halo2 was insanely high, I was 43 an that was at the very top of non-cheater levels, anything beyond 45 was 90% cheaters. If you were a 44 in Halo2 you would definitely be extremely proud of it because that is about as high as you could get without cheating every game. And someone with a 44 was extremely dedicated to the game, so you would definitely still know your gamertag. I can't think of any opponent I have ever met at 40+ that didn't at least have 5k games played in total. the cheating wasnt prominent in the entire lifespan of the playlist.. just for like the last whatever before they removed the leaderboards or whatever they did. i honestly didnt think id ever be discsussing halo 2 on a TL but.. whatever. No, cheating was always prominent in Halo2. You can stop lying now. Ask anyone on any haloforum, nobody had a legit 45, they were at the very least bridging host. So there is no way you were a legit 44 and dont even remember your gamertag, only very skilled and dedicated players would even come close to this level. i dont even know how to respond to idiots like this. i mean yes people cheated but there were less cheaters than your apocalyptic description. and i had multiple 35+ accounts back in the day. and to be honest this discussion has drifted ffffaaaaaarrrrrrrr off topic from what we were talking about before No, absolutely everyone was cheating at the top level. Stop lying now because you obviously have never played Halo2. Or else just name one of your various high level accounts so I can look it up for myself. Liars are so annoying. Dude, I played at the high end of matchmaking ok and I was only mid-tier compared to pros and I can guarantee you that it was almost impossible to find a legit game at that level. http://www.bungie.net/stats/PlayerStatsHalo2.aspx?player=ilonex&sg=3That's my profile, now link yours or shut up. On March 26 2012 10:38 gosuMalicE wrote:On March 26 2012 10:28 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:24 honed wrote: i was like ~44 at highest maybe? idk if you would actually consider that mid tier. but i think thats good enough to have a decent grasp of game mechanics See, now you are lying. 44 in Halo2 was insanely high, I was 43 an that was at the very top of non-cheater levels, anything beyond 45 was 90% cheaters. If you were a 44 in Halo2 you would definitely be extremely proud of it because that is about as high as you could get without cheating every game. And someone with a 44 was extremely dedicated to the game, so you would definitely still know your gamertag. I can't think of any opponent I have ever met at 40+ that didn't at least have 5k games played in total. Are you serious? I was 44 in H2 and never considered myself a top player, you sound really full of yourself when you make that claim that 90% of the people with a higher rank then you was a cheater. As someone who came from a mainly shooter background to strategy games like starcraft and dota 2, I can reinforce that Halo at top skill level takes nowhere near the skill that a high skillcap RTS takes even at a moderately high (diamond+) skill level. Then link your account? I played at tops level in H2 matchmaking and know for a fact that it was full of cheaters. go to haloforum.eu and ask anyone there, they will tell you exactly the same. Well I haven't played H2 in a very long time but my gamertag at the time was PowerOverwhelming which doesn't even show up on the search so I assume a wipe was preformed since I last played it. Regardless I think you are full of shit, kids always call cheating when people beat them, Its at the point where if anyone with moderate shooter skill plays a game of MW or Battlefeild (the only shooters i have played in the last few years so I use them for example) Half the people in the game call hacks and you can get banned solely for being better then them so I would hardly call the opinion of a forum full of 12 year old shooter kids definitive proof of cheating. I can bring in Pros to completely tear apart your thoughts. Still got Lunchbox on my Friends List. Please do it. This guy has no idea what he's talking about. 40+ was full of cheaters. period.
My bro was constantly between 40-44 in TS, and he'd tell you the same. He'd get to 44, and then get blue screened and have people bridging host etc, and knock him back down to 39-40 (No idea his hardcore, but considering how into MLG he was, I'd say it was probably high. )
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Stop the halo nonsense, go find another forum, cripes.
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On March 26 2012 10:55 ChaosTerran wrote:You had around a 30 in TS and a 20 in THC. You were nowhere near the level you claimed to be. 44 and 20 is a huge difference my friend. See, I knew for a fact you were lying because everyone with a 40+ knew that it was mainly cheaters. Show nested quote +On March 26 2012 10:54 gosuMalicE wrote:On March 26 2012 10:40 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:38 honed wrote:On March 26 2012 10:35 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:31 honed wrote:On March 26 2012 10:28 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:24 honed wrote: i was like ~44 at highest maybe? idk if you would actually consider that mid tier. but i think thats good enough to have a decent grasp of game mechanics See, now you are lying. 44 in Halo2 was insanely high, I was 43 an that was at the very top of non-cheater levels, anything beyond 45 was 90% cheaters. If you were a 44 in Halo2 you would definitely be extremely proud of it because that is about as high as you could get without cheating every game. And someone with a 44 was extremely dedicated to the game, so you would definitely still know your gamertag. I can't think of any opponent I have ever met at 40+ that didn't at least have 5k games played in total. the cheating wasnt prominent in the entire lifespan of the playlist.. just for like the last whatever before they removed the leaderboards or whatever they did. i honestly didnt think id ever be discsussing halo 2 on a TL but.. whatever. No, cheating was always prominent in Halo2. You can stop lying now. Ask anyone on any haloforum, nobody had a legit 45, they were at the very least bridging host. So there is no way you were a legit 44 and dont even remember your gamertag, only very skilled and dedicated players would even come close to this level. i dont even know how to respond to idiots like this. i mean yes people cheated but there were less cheaters than your apocalyptic description. and i had multiple 35+ accounts back in the day. and to be honest this discussion has drifted ffffaaaaaarrrrrrrr off topic from what we were talking about before No, absolutely everyone was cheating at the top level. Stop lying now because you obviously have never played Halo2. Or else just name one of your various high level accounts so I can look it up for myself. Liars are so annoying. Dude, I played at the high end of matchmaking ok and I was only mid-tier compared to pros and I can guarantee you that it was almost impossible to find a legit game at that level. http://www.bungie.net/stats/PlayerStatsHalo2.aspx?player=ilonex&sg=3That's my profile, now link yours or shut up. On March 26 2012 10:38 gosuMalicE wrote:On March 26 2012 10:28 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:24 honed wrote: i was like ~44 at highest maybe? idk if you would actually consider that mid tier. but i think thats good enough to have a decent grasp of game mechanics See, now you are lying. 44 in Halo2 was insanely high, I was 43 an that was at the very top of non-cheater levels, anything beyond 45 was 90% cheaters. If you were a 44 in Halo2 you would definitely be extremely proud of it because that is about as high as you could get without cheating every game. And someone with a 44 was extremely dedicated to the game, so you would definitely still know your gamertag. I can't think of any opponent I have ever met at 40+ that didn't at least have 5k games played in total. Are you serious? I was 44 in H2 and never considered myself a top player, you sound really full of yourself when you make that claim that 90% of the people with a higher rank then you was a cheater. As someone who came from a mainly shooter background to strategy games like starcraft and dota 2, I can reinforce that Halo at top skill level takes nowhere near the skill that a high skillcap RTS takes even at a moderately high (diamond+) skill level. Then link your account? I played at tops level in H2 matchmaking and know for a fact that it was full of cheaters. go to haloforum.eu and ask anyone there, they will tell you exactly the same. Well I haven't played H2 in a very long time but my gamertag at the time was PowerOverwhelming which doesn't even show up on the search so I assume a wipe was preformed since I last played it. Regardless I think you are full of shit, kids always call cheating when people beat them, Its at the point where if anyone with moderate shooter skill plays a game of MW or Battlefeild (the only shooters i have played in the last few years so I use them for example) Half the people in the game call hacks and you can get banned solely for being better then them so I would hardly call the opinion of a forum full of 12 year old shooter kids definitive proof of cheating. You have never played Halo2. www.haloforum.eu Ask anyone there if 40+ wasn't full of cheaters. They'll tell you exactly the same. or even better visit the mlg forums and ask the same question there. Around 90% of all players at 45+ were cheating, and around 50% at around 40+ were cheating. ask them, please. I never played Halo 2? are you serious? That was my main game for at least a year, unless you are intent on making yourself seem like an idiot I would stop talking now.
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On March 26 2012 10:58 ChaosTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2012 10:56 Femari wrote:On March 26 2012 10:54 gosuMalicE wrote:On March 26 2012 10:40 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:38 honed wrote:On March 26 2012 10:35 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:31 honed wrote:On March 26 2012 10:28 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:24 honed wrote: i was like ~44 at highest maybe? idk if you would actually consider that mid tier. but i think thats good enough to have a decent grasp of game mechanics See, now you are lying. 44 in Halo2 was insanely high, I was 43 an that was at the very top of non-cheater levels, anything beyond 45 was 90% cheaters. If you were a 44 in Halo2 you would definitely be extremely proud of it because that is about as high as you could get without cheating every game. And someone with a 44 was extremely dedicated to the game, so you would definitely still know your gamertag. I can't think of any opponent I have ever met at 40+ that didn't at least have 5k games played in total. the cheating wasnt prominent in the entire lifespan of the playlist.. just for like the last whatever before they removed the leaderboards or whatever they did. i honestly didnt think id ever be discsussing halo 2 on a TL but.. whatever. No, cheating was always prominent in Halo2. You can stop lying now. Ask anyone on any haloforum, nobody had a legit 45, they were at the very least bridging host. So there is no way you were a legit 44 and dont even remember your gamertag, only very skilled and dedicated players would even come close to this level. i dont even know how to respond to idiots like this. i mean yes people cheated but there were less cheaters than your apocalyptic description. and i had multiple 35+ accounts back in the day. and to be honest this discussion has drifted ffffaaaaaarrrrrrrr off topic from what we were talking about before No, absolutely everyone was cheating at the top level. Stop lying now because you obviously have never played Halo2. Or else just name one of your various high level accounts so I can look it up for myself. Liars are so annoying. Dude, I played at the high end of matchmaking ok and I was only mid-tier compared to pros and I can guarantee you that it was almost impossible to find a legit game at that level. http://www.bungie.net/stats/PlayerStatsHalo2.aspx?player=ilonex&sg=3That's my profile, now link yours or shut up. On March 26 2012 10:38 gosuMalicE wrote:On March 26 2012 10:28 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:24 honed wrote: i was like ~44 at highest maybe? idk if you would actually consider that mid tier. but i think thats good enough to have a decent grasp of game mechanics See, now you are lying. 44 in Halo2 was insanely high, I was 43 an that was at the very top of non-cheater levels, anything beyond 45 was 90% cheaters. If you were a 44 in Halo2 you would definitely be extremely proud of it because that is about as high as you could get without cheating every game. And someone with a 44 was extremely dedicated to the game, so you would definitely still know your gamertag. I can't think of any opponent I have ever met at 40+ that didn't at least have 5k games played in total. Are you serious? I was 44 in H2 and never considered myself a top player, you sound really full of yourself when you make that claim that 90% of the people with a higher rank then you was a cheater. As someone who came from a mainly shooter background to strategy games like starcraft and dota 2, I can reinforce that Halo at top skill level takes nowhere near the skill that a high skillcap RTS takes even at a moderately high (diamond+) skill level. Then link your account? I played at tops level in H2 matchmaking and know for a fact that it was full of cheaters. go to haloforum.eu and ask anyone there, they will tell you exactly the same. Well I haven't played H2 in a very long time but my gamertag at the time was PowerOverwhelming which doesn't even show up on the search so I assume a wipe was preformed since I last played it. Regardless I think you are full of shit, kids always call cheating when people beat them, Its at the point where if anyone with moderate shooter skill plays a game of MW or Battlefeild (the only shooters i have played in the last few years so I use them for example) Half the people in the game call hacks and you can get banned solely for being better then them so I would hardly call the opinion of a forum full of 12 year old shooter kids definitive proof of cheating. I can bring in Pros to completely tear apart your thoughts. Still got Lunchbox on my Friends List. Please do it. This guy has no idea what he's talking about. 40+ was full of cheaters. period. Have to wait for him to get home, Kyle and Mason aren't on FB rn either and Ola won't want to talk after losing.
Maybe I can talk to Nexy if he's on AIM...
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guys this is an sc2 forum not halo, there is a halo section under which you can fight out your little squabbles.
on topic, MKP fighting! my favorite game was the biomech with thors
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On March 26 2012 11:01 Gingerninja wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2012 10:58 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:56 Femari wrote:On March 26 2012 10:54 gosuMalicE wrote:On March 26 2012 10:40 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:38 honed wrote:On March 26 2012 10:35 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:31 honed wrote:On March 26 2012 10:28 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:24 honed wrote: i was like ~44 at highest maybe? idk if you would actually consider that mid tier. but i think thats good enough to have a decent grasp of game mechanics See, now you are lying. 44 in Halo2 was insanely high, I was 43 an that was at the very top of non-cheater levels, anything beyond 45 was 90% cheaters. If you were a 44 in Halo2 you would definitely be extremely proud of it because that is about as high as you could get without cheating every game. And someone with a 44 was extremely dedicated to the game, so you would definitely still know your gamertag. I can't think of any opponent I have ever met at 40+ that didn't at least have 5k games played in total. the cheating wasnt prominent in the entire lifespan of the playlist.. just for like the last whatever before they removed the leaderboards or whatever they did. i honestly didnt think id ever be discsussing halo 2 on a TL but.. whatever. No, cheating was always prominent in Halo2. You can stop lying now. Ask anyone on any haloforum, nobody had a legit 45, they were at the very least bridging host. So there is no way you were a legit 44 and dont even remember your gamertag, only very skilled and dedicated players would even come close to this level. i dont even know how to respond to idiots like this. i mean yes people cheated but there were less cheaters than your apocalyptic description. and i had multiple 35+ accounts back in the day. and to be honest this discussion has drifted ffffaaaaaarrrrrrrr off topic from what we were talking about before No, absolutely everyone was cheating at the top level. Stop lying now because you obviously have never played Halo2. Or else just name one of your various high level accounts so I can look it up for myself. Liars are so annoying. Dude, I played at the high end of matchmaking ok and I was only mid-tier compared to pros and I can guarantee you that it was almost impossible to find a legit game at that level. http://www.bungie.net/stats/PlayerStatsHalo2.aspx?player=ilonex&sg=3That's my profile, now link yours or shut up. On March 26 2012 10:38 gosuMalicE wrote:On March 26 2012 10:28 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:24 honed wrote: i was like ~44 at highest maybe? idk if you would actually consider that mid tier. but i think thats good enough to have a decent grasp of game mechanics See, now you are lying. 44 in Halo2 was insanely high, I was 43 an that was at the very top of non-cheater levels, anything beyond 45 was 90% cheaters. If you were a 44 in Halo2 you would definitely be extremely proud of it because that is about as high as you could get without cheating every game. And someone with a 44 was extremely dedicated to the game, so you would definitely still know your gamertag. I can't think of any opponent I have ever met at 40+ that didn't at least have 5k games played in total. Are you serious? I was 44 in H2 and never considered myself a top player, you sound really full of yourself when you make that claim that 90% of the people with a higher rank then you was a cheater. As someone who came from a mainly shooter background to strategy games like starcraft and dota 2, I can reinforce that Halo at top skill level takes nowhere near the skill that a high skillcap RTS takes even at a moderately high (diamond+) skill level. Then link your account? I played at tops level in H2 matchmaking and know for a fact that it was full of cheaters. go to haloforum.eu and ask anyone there, they will tell you exactly the same. Well I haven't played H2 in a very long time but my gamertag at the time was PowerOverwhelming which doesn't even show up on the search so I assume a wipe was preformed since I last played it. Regardless I think you are full of shit, kids always call cheating when people beat them, Its at the point where if anyone with moderate shooter skill plays a game of MW or Battlefeild (the only shooters i have played in the last few years so I use them for example) Half the people in the game call hacks and you can get banned solely for being better then them so I would hardly call the opinion of a forum full of 12 year old shooter kids definitive proof of cheating. I can bring in Pros to completely tear apart your thoughts. Still got Lunchbox on my Friends List. Please do it. This guy has no idea what he's talking about. 40+ was full of cheaters. period. My bro was constantly between 40-44 in TS, and he'd tell you the same. He'd get to 44, and then get blue screened and have people bridging host etc, and knock him back down to 39-40 (No idea his hardcore, but considering how into MLG he was, I'd say it was probably high. )
I know, almost everyone past 40 was a cheater or at least 50% and past 45 it was almost exclusively cheaters. Malice is just lying for whatever reason.
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On March 26 2012 11:03 ChaosTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2012 11:01 Gingerninja wrote:On March 26 2012 10:58 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:56 Femari wrote:On March 26 2012 10:54 gosuMalicE wrote:On March 26 2012 10:40 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:38 honed wrote:On March 26 2012 10:35 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:31 honed wrote:On March 26 2012 10:28 ChaosTerran wrote: [quote]
See, now you are lying. 44 in Halo2 was insanely high, I was 43 an that was at the very top of non-cheater levels, anything beyond 45 was 90% cheaters. If you were a 44 in Halo2 you would definitely be extremely proud of it because that is about as high as you could get without cheating every game. And someone with a 44 was extremely dedicated to the game, so you would definitely still know your gamertag. I can't think of any opponent I have ever met at 40+ that didn't at least have 5k games played in total. the cheating wasnt prominent in the entire lifespan of the playlist.. just for like the last whatever before they removed the leaderboards or whatever they did. i honestly didnt think id ever be discsussing halo 2 on a TL but.. whatever. No, cheating was always prominent in Halo2. You can stop lying now. Ask anyone on any haloforum, nobody had a legit 45, they were at the very least bridging host. So there is no way you were a legit 44 and dont even remember your gamertag, only very skilled and dedicated players would even come close to this level. i dont even know how to respond to idiots like this. i mean yes people cheated but there were less cheaters than your apocalyptic description. and i had multiple 35+ accounts back in the day. and to be honest this discussion has drifted ffffaaaaaarrrrrrrr off topic from what we were talking about before No, absolutely everyone was cheating at the top level. Stop lying now because you obviously have never played Halo2. Or else just name one of your various high level accounts so I can look it up for myself. Liars are so annoying. Dude, I played at the high end of matchmaking ok and I was only mid-tier compared to pros and I can guarantee you that it was almost impossible to find a legit game at that level. http://www.bungie.net/stats/PlayerStatsHalo2.aspx?player=ilonex&sg=3That's my profile, now link yours or shut up. On March 26 2012 10:38 gosuMalicE wrote:On March 26 2012 10:28 ChaosTerran wrote:On March 26 2012 10:24 honed wrote: i was like ~44 at highest maybe? idk if you would actually consider that mid tier. but i think thats good enough to have a decent grasp of game mechanics See, now you are lying. 44 in Halo2 was insanely high, I was 43 an that was at the very top of non-cheater levels, anything beyond 45 was 90% cheaters. If you were a 44 in Halo2 you would definitely be extremely proud of it because that is about as high as you could get without cheating every game. And someone with a 44 was extremely dedicated to the game, so you would definitely still know your gamertag. I can't think of any opponent I have ever met at 40+ that didn't at least have 5k games played in total. Are you serious? I was 44 in H2 and never considered myself a top player, you sound really full of yourself when you make that claim that 90% of the people with a higher rank then you was a cheater. As someone who came from a mainly shooter background to strategy games like starcraft and dota 2, I can reinforce that Halo at top skill level takes nowhere near the skill that a high skillcap RTS takes even at a moderately high (diamond+) skill level. Then link your account? I played at tops level in H2 matchmaking and know for a fact that it was full of cheaters. go to haloforum.eu and ask anyone there, they will tell you exactly the same. Well I haven't played H2 in a very long time but my gamertag at the time was PowerOverwhelming which doesn't even show up on the search so I assume a wipe was preformed since I last played it. Regardless I think you are full of shit, kids always call cheating when people beat them, Its at the point where if anyone with moderate shooter skill plays a game of MW or Battlefeild (the only shooters i have played in the last few years so I use them for example) Half the people in the game call hacks and you can get banned solely for being better then them so I would hardly call the opinion of a forum full of 12 year old shooter kids definitive proof of cheating. I can bring in Pros to completely tear apart your thoughts. Still got Lunchbox on my Friends List. Please do it. This guy has no idea what he's talking about. 40+ was full of cheaters. period. My bro was constantly between 40-44 in TS, and he'd tell you the same. He'd get to 44, and then get blue screened and have people bridging host etc, and knock him back down to 39-40 (No idea his hardcore, but considering how into MLG he was, I'd say it was probably high. ) I know, almost everyone past 40 was a cheater or at least 50% and past 45 it was almost exclusively cheaters. Malice is just lying for whatever reason. If you say so... I'm sorry your epeen isn't as big as you think it is.
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actually providing proof lunchbox is on my friends list
but anyway, mlg was good, mkp won, halo is back, honed is lying.
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