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Northern Ireland20737 Posts
On April 18 2013 14:34 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 14:19 kubiks wrote:On April 18 2013 13:44 Maghetti wrote:On April 18 2013 10:22 xluik wrote: anything other than flash and soulkey is an upset God damn you this is like word for word what was said in the last thread about Innovation and Rain and it put me at ease and look how that went for me. I don't really know how you can believe the baseless things like "anything other than xx and yy would be an upset" when it's the first GSL of Hots and we baerly didn't saw anything from the other players... It's not like maru is known to be a particulary weak player that managed to go to code S by cheesing lower code S quality players. He hold his ground for a long time agaisnt life in the GSTL, and this fact alone tells you that his TvZ isn't bad. And soulkey is probably weaker than life, so it wouldn't be an upset AT ALL that he wins agaisnt soulkey 2-0. especially considering maru is #1 korean GM at the moment with 70% TvZ, no joke He is the most overrated player out there in terms of hype. He'll probably have a breakout this time knowing my luck, but he's really not DONE anything yet other than show some occasionally amazing micro.
Looking forward to this group anyway, no Protoss so I can't get annoyed at SCV pulls so much
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Flash don't fail us. Also Soulkey gogo
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On April 18 2013 14:43 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 14:34 opterown wrote:On April 18 2013 14:19 kubiks wrote:On April 18 2013 13:44 Maghetti wrote:On April 18 2013 10:22 xluik wrote: anything other than flash and soulkey is an upset God damn you this is like word for word what was said in the last thread about Innovation and Rain and it put me at ease and look how that went for me. I don't really know how you can believe the baseless things like "anything other than xx and yy would be an upset" when it's the first GSL of Hots and we baerly didn't saw anything from the other players... It's not like maru is known to be a particulary weak player that managed to go to code S by cheesing lower code S quality players. He hold his ground for a long time agaisnt life in the GSTL, and this fact alone tells you that his TvZ isn't bad. And soulkey is probably weaker than life, so it wouldn't be an upset AT ALL that he wins agaisnt soulkey 2-0. especially considering maru is #1 korean GM at the moment with 70% TvZ, no joke He is the most overrated player out there in terms of hype. He'll probably have a breakout this time knowing my luck, but he's really not DONE anything yet other than show some occasionally amazing micro. Looking forward to this group anyway, no Protoss so I can't get annoyed at SCV pulls so much psch, hater
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Northern Ireland20737 Posts
I'm not a hater. He's got one Ro16 in GSL. Meanwhile a guy like HerO who has multiple tournament wins and a GSL Ro8 and Ro4 under his belt is 'overrated' Such a disgrace
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On April 18 2013 14:43 opterown wrote:yes god help us all
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On April 18 2013 14:50 Wombat_NI wrote:I'm not a hater. He's got one Ro16 in GSL. Meanwhile a guy like HerO who has multiple tournament wins and a GSL Ro8 and Ro4 under his belt is 'overrated' Such a disgrace think about how many more fans and how much hyping hero gets than maru lol
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HerO has a lot of fans and hype, but he gets too frequently called overrated for his actual skill and accomplishments, of which he has plenty.
If people were like 'gosh his fanboys are fucking annoying' I'd be fine with that.
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On April 18 2013 14:55 Wombat_NI wrote: HerO has a lot of fans and hype, but he gets too frequently called overrated for his actual skill and accomplishments, of which he has plenty.
If people were like 'gosh his fanboys are fucking annoying' I'd be fine with that. but you see the more fanboys you have, the more antifans you will have, and thus the more often you get called overrated by those antifans (or just anti-fanboys if you get me)
being called overrated is not for actual skill or accomplishment, it's when hype > results. often hero does get hyped more than his results.
maru gets very little hype - he doesn't play in many tournaments and is on one of the poorest teams. he probably get an appropriate amount of hype considering what he is capable of e.g. allkilling startale lol
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HerO is a baller, stfu
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I have a bad feeling this is all gonna come crashing down amidst Baneling explosions and Roach all-ins.
Nevertheless, these are the days when I'm super glad every match in GSL is bo3 and not bo1.
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If that does occur, Maru will pull off one of his miracle holds at least, which would be a good watch
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On April 18 2013 14:50 Wombat_NI wrote:I'm not a hater. He's got one Ro16 in GSL. Meanwhile a guy like HerO who has multiple tournament wins and a GSL Ro8 and Ro4 under his belt is 'overrated' Such a disgrace
Many people make the mistake to judge current ability of playing the game with results in the past. If you want to argue like that, Flash is without a doubt the best player in this group by a million times, because man did he own in Broodwar. HerO is a fantastic player, but his GSL Ro8 and Ro4 are in thepast. Right now he's not shining bright, while not being completely out of it.
I'd also say MVP is a fantastic player, but I'd not call him favorite of any Code S group right now, because he won lots of stuff (actually tons of) in the past. People right now are just judging Marus current form and are excited to see him play.
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Flash not winning games is killing e-sports. Go go Flash!
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Flash looks like an evil mastermind in the banner. So God is actually evil?
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On April 18 2013 15:04 Type|NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 14:50 Wombat_NI wrote:I'm not a hater. He's got one Ro16 in GSL. Meanwhile a guy like HerO who has multiple tournament wins and a GSL Ro8 and Ro4 under his belt is 'overrated' Such a disgrace Many people make the mistake to judge current ability of playing the game with results in the past. If you want to argue like that, Flash is without a doubt the best player in this group by a million times, because man did he own in Broodwar. HerO is a fantastic player, but his GSL Ro8 and Ro4 are in thepast. Right now he's not shining bright, while not being completely out of it. I'd also say MVP is a fantastic player, but I'd not call him favorite of any Code S group right now, because he won lots of stuff (actually tons of) in the past. People right now are just judging Marus current form and are excited to see him play. Just one example of a player who is (imo wrongly) called overrated. Maru is the definition of the term. That said I do like his play, am interested to see what he pulls out of the bag tonight, he can beat anybody when he's on song
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On April 18 2013 15:20 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 15:04 Type|NarutO wrote:On April 18 2013 14:50 Wombat_NI wrote:I'm not a hater. He's got one Ro16 in GSL. Meanwhile a guy like HerO who has multiple tournament wins and a GSL Ro8 and Ro4 under his belt is 'overrated' Such a disgrace Many people make the mistake to judge current ability of playing the game with results in the past. If you want to argue like that, Flash is without a doubt the best player in this group by a million times, because man did he own in Broodwar. HerO is a fantastic player, but his GSL Ro8 and Ro4 are in thepast. Right now he's not shining bright, while not being completely out of it. I'd also say MVP is a fantastic player, but I'd not call him favorite of any Code S group right now, because he won lots of stuff (actually tons of) in the past. People right now are just judging Marus current form and are excited to see him play. Just one example of a player who is (imo wrongly) called overrated. Maru is the definition of the term. That said I do like his play, am interested to see what he pulls out of the bag tonight, he can beat anybody when he's on song that's like, your opinion, man
i actually honestly believe hero is more overrated than maru, but that's like, my opinion, man
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Your opinion is wrong I say!
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Poll: out of curiousity, who do you think is more overrated?hero (13) 68% maru (6) 32% 19 total votes Your vote: out of curiousity, who do you think is more overrated? (Vote): maru (Vote): hero
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I had high hopes for maru
...like 16 months ago
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Also opter if TL is as full of blind HerO fanboys as you suspect, isn't this poll redundant?
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