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On April 23 2013 01:08 Otolia wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 01:06 EmPiReS wrote:On April 23 2013 01:02 Nerchio wrote:On April 23 2013 00:59 Kasaraki wrote:On April 23 2013 00:54 Nerchio wrote:On April 23 2013 00:53 Makro wrote: the one race army Fixed it for you. Gracious in defeat as always. ;o I am more than capable of appreciating when i actually get outplayed. You are just bad Nechio. I even won u in Wol where zerg was OP You just are a bm cryier. You should retire of sc2 gl Not that I particularly disagree with you but here in TL pro players have more liberties and in retrospect should be treated with respect.
Isn't EmPiReS a pro player as well? I know he was on Aprender's roster a little while ago.
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On April 23 2013 01:15 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 01:08 Otolia wrote:On April 23 2013 01:06 EmPiReS wrote:On April 23 2013 01:02 Nerchio wrote:On April 23 2013 00:59 Kasaraki wrote:On April 23 2013 00:54 Nerchio wrote:On April 23 2013 00:53 Makro wrote: the one race army Fixed it for you. Gracious in defeat as always. ;o I am more than capable of appreciating when i actually get outplayed. You are just bad Nechio. I even won u in Wol where zerg was OP You just are a bm cryier. You should retire of sc2 gl Not that I particularly disagree with you but here in TL pro players have more liberties and in retrospect should be treated with respect. Isn't EmPiReS a pro player as well? I know he was on Aprender's roster a little while ago.
I was member of APSC2 for almost a year and a half with Lucifron and vortix.
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On April 23 2013 01:15 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 01:08 Otolia wrote:On April 23 2013 01:06 EmPiReS wrote:On April 23 2013 01:02 Nerchio wrote:On April 23 2013 00:59 Kasaraki wrote:On April 23 2013 00:54 Nerchio wrote:On April 23 2013 00:53 Makro wrote: the one race army Fixed it for you. Gracious in defeat as always. ;o I am more than capable of appreciating when i actually get outplayed. You are just bad Nechio. I even won u in Wol where zerg was OP You just are a bm cryier. You should retire of sc2 gl Not that I particularly disagree with you but here in TL pro players have more liberties and in retrospect should be treated with respect. Isn't EmPiReS a pro player as well? I know he was on Aprender's roster a little while ago.
That doesent justify bashing one of the best zergs in Europe. Especially by no name player like him.
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On April 23 2013 01:25 ZeRoX-45 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 01:15 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 23 2013 01:08 Otolia wrote:On April 23 2013 01:06 EmPiReS wrote:On April 23 2013 01:02 Nerchio wrote:On April 23 2013 00:59 Kasaraki wrote:On April 23 2013 00:54 Nerchio wrote:On April 23 2013 00:53 Makro wrote: the one race army Fixed it for you. Gracious in defeat as always. ;o I am more than capable of appreciating when i actually get outplayed. You are just bad Nechio. I even won u in Wol where zerg was OP You just are a bm cryier. You should retire of sc2 gl Not that I particularly disagree with you but here in TL pro players have more liberties and in retrospect should be treated with respect. Isn't EmPiReS a pro player as well? I know he was on Aprender's roster a little while ago. That doesent justify bashing one of the best zergs in Europe. Especially by no name player like him.
And how do you justify Nerchio's implication that fOrGG only won because of some perceived imbalance issue (that players like Snute and Life didn't give a shit about on their way to winning major tournaments, just FYI)? Someone who won a fucking MSL, and placed Top 3 in multiple major SC2 events, a player that has displayed a massive amount of talent so far? Do you think that's justified?
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On April 23 2013 01:02 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 00:59 Kasaraki wrote:On April 23 2013 00:54 Nerchio wrote:On April 23 2013 00:53 Makro wrote: the one race army Fixed it for you. Gracious in defeat as always. ;o I am more than capable of appreciating when i actually get outplayed. But the problem seems like you don't know when you have been outplayed, blaming it on balance.
Like Stephano said the other day. You are not in a position to balance whine when you played like shit.
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Shit on Nerchio, I understand that he is an easy target, but everyone's favorite girl, Scarlett, got shat on just as much as the Polish zerg did. I mean, Artosis and Catz even called her the best foreigner (by some margin as well), and that there was no Korean player she couldn't beat.
I'm luckily only a spectator, my Starcraft career was over way back in 03-04, but do people really think that there is no problem with the mine + bio composition? Don't you guys think that the Terran player can be way too cost efficient over time? OK, Zergs needs to find another way to engage a Terran army, that's fine, but I've yet to see a Terran really master the widow mine placement one hundred percent.
As for Nerchio, he has taken out players in HotS that were better than ForGG was in WoL, and he has been boasting a very high win percentage on the ladder as well. Calling him a patch zerg is, well, wrong.
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On April 23 2013 01:57 Longtimer wrote:
As for Nerchio, he has taken out players in HotS that were better than ForGG was in WoL, and he has been boasting a very high win percentage on the ladder as well. Calling him a patch zerg is, well, wrong.
Nobody called Nerchio a patch zerg but I don't think you're aware of how good fOrGG actually was. Yes, he's had a slump, but he's also had some pretty good results.
And don't even think about giving me that "oh but he never won a tournament" bullshit because for the longest time Nerchio never won anything either. Yeah, remember when Nerchio was a talent with bright prospects but the community opinion on him ranged from "lol who?" to "meh some whiny bm kid on the ladder, probs hacker"? Quantifiable results aren't always indicative of talent.
I don't think fOrGG has ever disrespected Nerchio, he doesn't deserve this bullshit whining excuse from someone who was ranked C on ICCup when he was an A-Teamer on Lecaf Oz and KT Rolster. You only get the respect that you treat others with .(let's not forget insulting GoOdy and many other pros over and over and not leaving until all his buildings were destroyed)
It seems fair to me.
P.S: Nerchio, no matter how hard you try, you will never be IdrA, who can BM infinitely superior player and still have thousands of fans. It's better to just grow up and admit defeat like a man, learn from mistakes and practice harder next time.
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What the actual fuck?
Nerchio can probably confirm this, but I've never seen ForGG say "gg" when he loses to Nerchio on the ladder. I like ForGG, he has some character, but he isn't the goldenboy you make him out to be (of course, you could argue that he's only giving back). Hell, ForGG even accused Nerchio of maphacking in an online thing they played, even though ForGG streamed 10 hours a day and did the same shit every time he played against Zerg.
If I were accused of maphacking, especially if I had 4-0'ed MC and 4-1'ed Yongwha offline, I would probably be pretty BM towards that person as well.
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On April 23 2013 02:22 Longtimer wrote: What the actual fuck?
Nerchio can probably confirm this, but I've never seen ForGG say "gg" when he loses to Nerchio on the ladder. I like ForGG, he has some character, but he isn't the goldenboy you make him out to be (of course, you could argue that he's only giving back). Hell, ForGG even accused Nerchio of maphacking in an online thing they played, even though ForGG streamed 10 hours a day and did the same shit every time he played against Zerg.
If I were accused of maphacking, especially if I had 4-0'ed MC and 4-1'ed Yongwha offline, I would probably be pretty BM towards that person as well. Dayshi said on millenium stream after the games that forgg doesn't like nerchio cause he is bm and he made fun of him when forgg got disqualified early in some tournament.
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On April 23 2013 02:35 Liebig wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 02:22 Longtimer wrote: What the actual fuck?
Nerchio can probably confirm this, but I've never seen ForGG say "gg" when he loses to Nerchio on the ladder. I like ForGG, he has some character, but he isn't the goldenboy you make him out to be (of course, you could argue that he's only giving back). Hell, ForGG even accused Nerchio of maphacking in an online thing they played, even though ForGG streamed 10 hours a day and did the same shit every time he played against Zerg.
If I were accused of maphacking, especially if I had 4-0'ed MC and 4-1'ed Yongwha offline, I would probably be pretty BM towards that person as well. Dayshi said on millenium stream after the games that forgg doesn't like nerchio cause he is bm and he made fun of him when forgg got disqualified early in some tournament. Pros behaving like children, such a shame.
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On April 23 2013 02:35 Liebig wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 02:22 Longtimer wrote: What the actual fuck?
Nerchio can probably confirm this, but I've never seen ForGG say "gg" when he loses to Nerchio on the ladder. I like ForGG, he has some character, but he isn't the goldenboy you make him out to be (of course, you could argue that he's only giving back). Hell, ForGG even accused Nerchio of maphacking in an online thing they played, even though ForGG streamed 10 hours a day and did the same shit every time he played against Zerg.
If I were accused of maphacking, especially if I had 4-0'ed MC and 4-1'ed Yongwha offline, I would probably be pretty BM towards that person as well. Dayshi said on millenium stream after the games that forgg doesn't like nerchio cause he is bm and he made fun of him when forgg got disqualified early in some tournament. I'm sure that one time when Nerchio 4-0'd ForGG in some tournament with early roach attacks after he went for the same insanely greedy build four times in a row and then basically accused him of maphacking for countering his build didn't help their relationship either.
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On April 23 2013 03:19 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 02:35 Liebig wrote:On April 23 2013 02:22 Longtimer wrote: What the actual fuck?
Nerchio can probably confirm this, but I've never seen ForGG say "gg" when he loses to Nerchio on the ladder. I like ForGG, he has some character, but he isn't the goldenboy you make him out to be (of course, you could argue that he's only giving back). Hell, ForGG even accused Nerchio of maphacking in an online thing they played, even though ForGG streamed 10 hours a day and did the same shit every time he played against Zerg.
If I were accused of maphacking, especially if I had 4-0'ed MC and 4-1'ed Yongwha offline, I would probably be pretty BM towards that person as well. Dayshi said on millenium stream after the games that forgg doesn't like nerchio cause he is bm and he made fun of him when forgg got disqualified early in some tournament. I'm sure that one time when Nerchio 4-0'd ForGG in some tournament with early roach attacks after he went for the same insanely greedy build four times in a row and then basically accused him of maphacking for countering his build didn't help their relationship either. Yeah I remember that, it was a Hots beta tournament. Funny enough it was organized by Take too. Nerchio played 2 times in a row a 7RR, once a macro game, and again 7RR. And each game, ForGG opened with CC first. Nerchio took 4-0 win then.
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Nerchio did good today! Killing 3 guys is pretty impressive and he can hardly be blamed for trying to all-in in a ZvT.
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On April 23 2013 03:19 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 02:35 Liebig wrote:On April 23 2013 02:22 Longtimer wrote: What the actual fuck?
Nerchio can probably confirm this, but I've never seen ForGG say "gg" when he loses to Nerchio on the ladder. I like ForGG, he has some character, but he isn't the goldenboy you make him out to be (of course, you could argue that he's only giving back). Hell, ForGG even accused Nerchio of maphacking in an online thing they played, even though ForGG streamed 10 hours a day and did the same shit every time he played against Zerg.
If I were accused of maphacking, especially if I had 4-0'ed MC and 4-1'ed Yongwha offline, I would probably be pretty BM towards that person as well. Dayshi said on millenium stream after the games that forgg doesn't like nerchio cause he is bm and he made fun of him when forgg got disqualified early in some tournament. I'm sure that one time when Nerchio 4-0'd ForGG in some tournament with early roach attacks after he went for the same insanely greedy build four times in a row and then basically accused him of maphacking for countering his build didn't help their relationship either. I remember. ForGG was playing REALLY BAD this day. But not today.
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lol Empires, you call Nerchio bad??? I know you from laddering and you are just a mid master terran noob. Just be happy that you had the honor to face Nerchio and stop writting in here. And MasterOfPuppet Empires is not a pro. He's not even a good player at all. By the way Nerchio did very good in all his games just vs greedy korean terran play its almost impossible to win with zerg. Its a fact just face it!
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On April 23 2013 03:36 AoWLuXus wrote: lol Empires, you call Nerchio bad??? I know you from laddering and you are just a mid master terran noob. Just be happy that you had the honor to face Nerchio and stop writting in here. And MasterOfPuppet Empires is not a pro. He's not even a good player at all. By the way Nerchio did very good in all his games just vs greedy korean terran play its almost impossible to win with zerg. Its a fact just face it!
lol yea . . . . .
No, not really
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On April 23 2013 03:34 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 03:19 StarVe wrote:On April 23 2013 02:35 Liebig wrote:On April 23 2013 02:22 Longtimer wrote: What the actual fuck?
Nerchio can probably confirm this, but I've never seen ForGG say "gg" when he loses to Nerchio on the ladder. I like ForGG, he has some character, but he isn't the goldenboy you make him out to be (of course, you could argue that he's only giving back). Hell, ForGG even accused Nerchio of maphacking in an online thing they played, even though ForGG streamed 10 hours a day and did the same shit every time he played against Zerg.
If I were accused of maphacking, especially if I had 4-0'ed MC and 4-1'ed Yongwha offline, I would probably be pretty BM towards that person as well. Dayshi said on millenium stream after the games that forgg doesn't like nerchio cause he is bm and he made fun of him when forgg got disqualified early in some tournament. I'm sure that one time when Nerchio 4-0'd ForGG in some tournament with early roach attacks after he went for the same insanely greedy build four times in a row and then basically accused him of maphacking for countering his build didn't help their relationship either. I remember. ForGG was playing REALLY BAD this day. But not today. Yeah, he did, but I think everyone with a neutral mind will agree that losing and then calling the opponent a maphacker is far, much, a lot worse than a player losing and then calling the opponents race for imba.
Anyways, it's done and dusted now. ForGG is in great shape at the moment, but I would argue that Nerchio is as well. I'm actually starting to believe that Nerchio is underrated because he is so easy to dislike.
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Nerchio at least has some chops to back up his BM, unlike some.
I love forgg too, people forget how hyped he was upon his arrival into the scene and I like how he actually is based in EU.
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About forGG's slump lets just remember that he is actually rather new on this game , he switched recently on sc2 comparing to other players ( not as recently as flash for comparison but still) and he also changed is living place, he now spend more time in France than in Korea, and i really think changing is environement and being in a country where no one speaks his language had a real impact on his play and performances (you can compare him to polt in some way)Anyway he is now well acclimated to the mill gaming house and his new teammates i really think he is now back in shape and will stay this way.
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