Disagree - I think TvZ was much better until mid-2011 or so. Before TvT got figured out with time, it was just cheese vs cheese.
Oh you went proxy rax? Well, I held with my SCVs and I don't need economy, so fear my Banshee/Tank/Raven followup!
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dcemuser
United States3248 Posts
On January 20 2014 08:29 Nafa wrote: Show nested quote + On January 20 2014 08:28 Destructicon wrote: On January 20 2014 08:28 Boucot wrote: On January 20 2014 08:27 Destructicon wrote: On January 20 2014 08:25 Boucot wrote: On January 20 2014 08:25 Bagration wrote: Tell me, what was the difference between that TvZ and that ZvP? TvZ confirmed best matchup I prefer TvT personally, with TvZ just behind. I'm with you on that one. TaeJa and INnoVation did a good job at promoting it. I was a fan way before that game, after all I am terran. TvT best Matchup since '10 Disagree - I think TvZ was much better until mid-2011 or so. Before TvT got figured out with time, it was just cheese vs cheese. Oh you went proxy rax? Well, I held with my SCVs and I don't need economy, so fear my Banshee/Tank/Raven followup! | ||
Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On January 20 2014 08:27 Bagration wrote: Show nested quote + On January 20 2014 08:25 sAsImre wrote: On January 20 2014 08:25 Bagration wrote: Tell me, what was the difference between that TvZ and that ZvP? TvZ confirmed best matchup TvT please :p I don't know..something about humans killing humans hits just too close to home :\ It all depends how it's done, if it looks like this, I'm all for it. + Show Spoiler + | ||
CruelZeratul
Germany4588 Posts
On January 20 2014 08:25 Bagration wrote: Tell me, what was the difference between that TvZ and that ZvP? TvZ confirmed best matchup I don't like seeing any vZ matchup, because Zergs micro capabilities are very limited, or at least you only see very little of it (in comparison to Bio-T), so it looks like a-moving armies win against heavy microing enemies (emphasis on looks!, even though a Zerg is very limited in what they can actually do). | ||
Ballack
Norway821 Posts
What was it really that made Titan deserve to win it? It's like people see zealot warp-ins and harass and immediately assume he's playing better, when in fact defending is much harder to do than attacking. Titan played awesomely don't get me wrong, but so did Snute. The units lost tabs means jack shit, having 35 swarm hosts does also come with huge downsides, like mobility and ability to defend your bases. People just feel like wanting to be mad. You thought the game was boring and bad, ok that's fine. But don't underestimate Snute's ability and hate on him for winning the game, because he deserved to win the game. | ||
Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On January 20 2014 08:33 CruelZeratul wrote: Show nested quote + On January 20 2014 08:25 Bagration wrote: Tell me, what was the difference between that TvZ and that ZvP? TvZ confirmed best matchup I don't like seeing any vZ matchup, because Zergs micro capabilities are very limited, or at least you only see very little of it (in comparison to Bio-T), so it looks like a-moving armies win against heavy microing enemies (emphasis on looks!, even though a Zerg is very limited in what they can actually do). Bio/mine vs muta/ling is probably the most micro intensive MU in SC2, for both players. | ||
FiWiFaKi
Canada9858 Posts
On January 20 2014 08:33 Ballack wrote: I really don't get the people complaining about the Titan vs Snute match. I thought it was fascinating. It was really hard to tell who was gonna win for like 40 minutes. I think Snute played amazingly, dividing up his forces to defend his bases and keep rebuilding them to keep up, in addition to controlling his swarm hosts/queens/vipers and building static defense in and around his siege-force. What was it really that made Titan deserve to win it? It's like people see zealot warp-ins and harass and immediately assume he's playing better, when in fact defending is much harder to do than attacking. Titan played awesomely don't get me wrong, but so did Snute. The units lost tabs means jack shit, having 35 swarm hosts does also come with huge downsides, like mobility and ability to defend your bases. People just feel like wanting to be mad. You thought the game was boring and bad, ok that's fine. But don't underestimate Snute's ability and hate on him for winning the game, because he deserved to win the game. I agree with you completely. Titan simply didn't make the right decisions in that game, and Snute played very well. It was a great game, and it was nice because it was a change from what we always see. | ||
Makro
France16890 Posts
On January 20 2014 08:32 Squat wrote: Show nested quote + On January 20 2014 08:27 Bagration wrote: On January 20 2014 08:25 sAsImre wrote: On January 20 2014 08:25 Bagration wrote: Tell me, what was the difference between that TvZ and that ZvP? TvZ confirmed best matchup TvT please :p I don't know..something about humans killing humans hits just too close to home :\ It all depends how it's done, if it looks like this, I'm all for it. + Show Spoiler + sometimes i really wonder how people do to find things like this | ||
Nebuchad
Switzerland11353 Posts
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DocSchlakk
Austria172 Posts
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
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SnakeDoctor
Poland121 Posts
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CruelZeratul
Germany4588 Posts
On January 20 2014 08:35 Squat wrote: Show nested quote + On January 20 2014 08:33 CruelZeratul wrote: On January 20 2014 08:25 Bagration wrote: Tell me, what was the difference between that TvZ and that ZvP? TvZ confirmed best matchup I don't like seeing any vZ matchup, because Zergs micro capabilities are very limited, or at least you only see very little of it (in comparison to Bio-T), so it looks like a-moving armies win against heavy microing enemies (emphasis on looks!, even though a Zerg is very limited in what they can actually do). Bio/mine vs muta/ling is probably the most micro intensive MU in SC2, for both players. It may be, it's just completely invisible on the Zerg part. And this was not just a-move with a little bit of move command by Targa? It was, with a little bit of Medivac killing, no comparison to Happy. | ||
DocSchlakk
Austria172 Posts
On January 20 2014 08:38 SnakeDoctor wrote: Funny how Day9 reverts back to day9daily type of commenting when he's solo. yeah that was my thought too | ||
Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On January 20 2014 08:38 CruelZeratul wrote: Show nested quote + On January 20 2014 08:35 Squat wrote: On January 20 2014 08:33 CruelZeratul wrote: On January 20 2014 08:25 Bagration wrote: Tell me, what was the difference between that TvZ and that ZvP? TvZ confirmed best matchup I don't like seeing any vZ matchup, because Zergs micro capabilities are very limited, or at least you only see very little of it (in comparison to Bio-T), so it looks like a-moving armies win against heavy microing enemies (emphasis on looks!, even though a Zerg is very limited in what they can actually do). Bio/mine vs muta/ling is probably the most micro intensive MU in SC2, for both players. It may be, it's just completely invisible on the Zerg part. In that case I recommend watching the game with the monitor turned on. | ||
Killmouse
Austria5700 Posts
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Chanted
Norway1001 Posts
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mjuuy
Norway506 Posts
On January 20 2014 08:00 tree.hugger wrote: It's funny to me, because throughout his entire career, Snute has been a champion of aggressive, multi-task play. He was like the ONE GUY to not go broodlord infestor every game. But zerg really doesn't have much of a choice now. Snute was all about infestors lol :D | ||
NPF
Canada1635 Posts
On January 20 2014 08:42 Killmouse wrote: where is TB ?? Promised a dinner date with the wife and friend and he wasn't expecting some 1 hours long games by Snute in 3 games. So he left for the last game | ||
Nafa
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InspiredFrog
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