On July 21 2017 14:09 CosmoK wrote: NarutO said yesterday that he needed a replacement for one player. Do the players listed here represent the final lineup?
HateMe will be replaced. He cannot attend / travel to HSC due to severe fever.
On July 21 2017 14:09 CosmoK wrote: NarutO said yesterday that he needed a replacement for one player. Do the players listed here represent the final lineup?
HateMe will be replaced. He cannot attend / travel to HSC due to severe fever.
On July 21 2017 14:09 CosmoK wrote: NarutO said yesterday that he needed a replacement for one player. Do the players listed here represent the final lineup?
HateMe will be replaced. He cannot attend / travel to HSC due to severe fever.
Replaced by Revolution?
RotterdaM will do us the favor and play - as a last second standin. I was thinking about inviting him in the first place but had all players in the end - so he is not prepared for HSC but thankfully he is still standing in for HateMe . Actually while I ofcourse do not expect Rotti do win vs GuMiHo, Lambo or DnS I still feel its cool to see him play.
I actually think not having him in the first place + prepare with the lineup (with no offence meant, and with it not being bad) for how much he plays etc and how much passion he has he would have deserved to be invited. So I think mistake on my side
On July 21 2017 14:09 CosmoK wrote: NarutO said yesterday that he needed a replacement for one player. Do the players listed here represent the final lineup?
HateMe will be replaced. He cannot attend / travel to HSC due to severe fever.
Replaced by Revolution?
RotterdaM will do us the favor and play - as a last second standin. I was thinking about inviting him in the first place but had all players in the end - so he is not prepared for HSC but thankfully he is still standing in for HateMe . Actually while I ofcourse do not expect Rotti do win vs GuMiHo, Lambo or DnS I still feel its cool to see him play.
I actually think not having him in the first place + prepare with the lineup (with no offence meant, and with it not being bad) for how much he plays etc and how much passion he has he would have deserved to be invited. So I think mistake on my side
Nice to have Rotterdam, he had some very cool games during the Casters invitational, I'm sure he can show good games again
On July 21 2017 14:09 CosmoK wrote: NarutO said yesterday that he needed a replacement for one player. Do the players listed here represent the final lineup?
HateMe will be replaced. He cannot attend / travel to HSC due to severe fever.
Replaced by Revolution?
RotterdaM will do us the favor and play - as a last second standin. I was thinking about inviting him in the first place but had all players in the end - so he is not prepared for HSC but thankfully he is still standing in for HateMe . Actually while I ofcourse do not expect Rotti do win vs GuMiHo, Lambo or DnS I still feel its cool to see him play.
I actually think not having him in the first place + prepare with the lineup (with no offence meant, and with it not being bad) for how much he plays etc and how much passion he has he would have deserved to be invited. So I think mistake on my side
Rotti and ToD were my first suggestions, just didn't think they would want to play!
This is amazing news, sad for HateMe, but Rotti playing is very hype.
On July 21 2017 14:09 CosmoK wrote: NarutO said yesterday that he needed a replacement for one player. Do the players listed here represent the final lineup?
HateMe will be replaced. He cannot attend / travel to HSC due to severe fever.
Replaced by Revolution?
RotterdaM will do us the favor and play - as a last second standin. I was thinking about inviting him in the first place but had all players in the end - so he is not prepared for HSC but thankfully he is still standing in for HateMe . Actually while I ofcourse do not expect Rotti do win vs GuMiHo, Lambo or DnS I still feel its cool to see him play.
I actually think not having him in the first place + prepare with the lineup (with no offence meant, and with it not being bad) for how much he plays etc and how much passion he has he would have deserved to be invited. So I think mistake on my side
Rotti and ToD were my first suggestions, just didn't think they would want to play!
This is amazing news, sad for HateMe, but Rotti playing is very hype.
As said - he is not prepared for it. Simply standing in because its way better than a walkover so do not expect anything. Still happy
On July 21 2017 14:09 CosmoK wrote: NarutO said yesterday that he needed a replacement for one player. Do the players listed here represent the final lineup?
HateMe will be replaced. He cannot attend / travel to HSC due to severe fever.
Replaced by Revolution?
RotterdaM will do us the favor and play - as a last second standin. I was thinking about inviting him in the first place but had all players in the end - so he is not prepared for HSC but thankfully he is still standing in for HateMe . Actually while I ofcourse do not expect Rotti do win vs GuMiHo, Lambo or DnS I still feel its cool to see him play.
I actually think not having him in the first place + prepare with the lineup (with no offence meant, and with it not being bad) for how much he plays etc and how much passion he has he would have deserved to be invited. So I think mistake on my side
Rotti and ToD were my first suggestions, just didn't think they would want to play!
This is amazing news, sad for HateMe, but Rotti playing is very hype.
As said - he is not prepared for it. Simply standing in because its way better than a walkover so do not expect anything. Still happy
On July 21 2017 20:37 GumBa wrote: The most sucess a foreign terran has ever had was GoOdy beating MMA in a TvT.
Goody the legend, also has a winning record vs Nestea.
But Dayshi beating Bomber was just as good.
Nahh cause GoOdy beating MMA was after MMA*s Blizzard cup win where everyone thought he was the best Terran and the son of boxer hype was in overdrive. Then the Panzer General shut that shit down.
On July 21 2017 20:37 GumBa wrote: The most sucess a foreign terran has ever had was GoOdy beating MMA in a TvT.
Goody the legend, also has a winning record vs Nestea.
But Dayshi beating Bomber was just as good.
Nahh cause GoOdy beating MMA was after MMA*s Blizzard cup win where everyone thought he was the best Terran and the son of boxer hype was in overdrive. Then the Panzer General shut that shit down.
One of the most famous proxy bases was Jjakji vs Leenock game 1 in gsl finals. Where he even placed the cc on the other side of the mins so when leenocks overlord went past it wouldnt even see a cc there.
On July 22 2017 00:41 GumBa wrote: One of the most famous proxy bases was Jjakji vs Leenock game 1 in gsl finals. Where he even placed the cc on the other side of the mins so when leenocks overlord went past it wouldnt even see a cc there.
Artosis was really hyped about that and then the OL never went far enough to see the normal proxy location anyway.
On July 22 2017 00:41 GumBa wrote: One of the most famous proxy bases was Jjakji vs Leenock game 1 in gsl finals. Where he even placed the cc on the other side of the mins so when leenocks overlord went past it wouldnt even see a cc there.
yeah it must feel like playing someone from another world. Although I remember Rotti once hit ByuN that was on a new account on NA, and there wasn't many people on ladder at the time of the day when it happened so they played a lot of consecutive games. It ended up in like 0-12 for ByuN and every game was more humiliating than the former.
On July 22 2017 03:02 [PkF] Wire wrote: yeah it must feel like playing someone from another world. Although I remember Rotti once hit ByuN that was on a new account on NA, and there wasn't many people on ladder at the time of the day when it happened so they played a lot of consecutive games. It ended up in like 0-12 for ByuN and every game was more humiliating than the former.
Demuslim also went like 0-25 against ByuN when he was playing on NA when ByuN first started coming back from MIA
On July 22 2017 03:02 [PkF] Wire wrote: yeah it must feel like playing someone from another world. Although I remember Rotti once hit ByuN that was on a new account on NA, and there wasn't many people on ladder at the time of the day when it happened so they played a lot of consecutive games. It ended up in like 0-12 for ByuN and every game was more humiliating than the former.
Playing someone that has 1000 more MMR than you has that effect
On July 22 2017 03:02 [PkF] Wire wrote: yeah it must feel like playing someone from another world. Although I remember Rotti once hit ByuN that was on a new account on NA, and there wasn't many people on ladder at the time of the day when it happened so they played a lot of consecutive games. It ended up in like 0-12 for ByuN and every game was more humiliating than the former.
It really feels like there's nothing you can do. I once played against soO when he laddered his NA account up and he just crushed my bio with ling bane swarmhost..
On July 22 2017 03:02 [PkF] Wire wrote: yeah it must feel like playing someone from another world. Although I remember Rotti once hit ByuN that was on a new account on NA, and there wasn't many people on ladder at the time of the day when it happened so they played a lot of consecutive games. It ended up in like 0-12 for ByuN and every game was more humiliating than the former.
Demuslim also went like 0-25 against ByuN when he was playing on NA when ByuN first started coming back from MIA
On July 22 2017 03:02 [PkF] Wire wrote: yeah it must feel like playing someone from another world. Although I remember Rotti once hit ByuN that was on a new account on NA, and there wasn't many people on ladder at the time of the day when it happened so they played a lot of consecutive games. It ended up in like 0-12 for ByuN and every game was more humiliating than the former.
Demuslim also went like 0-25 against ByuN when he was playing on NA when ByuN first started coming back from MIA
They actually talked about how they met ByuN yesterday together and said "hi ByuN you are 25-0 against us" and ByuN was just smiling.
On July 22 2017 03:02 [PkF] Wire wrote: yeah it must feel like playing someone from another world. Although I remember Rotti once hit ByuN that was on a new account on NA, and there wasn't many people on ladder at the time of the day when it happened so they played a lot of consecutive games. It ended up in like 0-12 for ByuN and every game was more humiliating than the former.
It really feels like there's nothing you can do. I once played against soO when he laddered his NA account up and he just crushed my bio with ling bane swarmhost..
I played against Bomber once, like one week before he won that WCS finals. It wasn't pretty
On July 22 2017 03:02 [PkF] Wire wrote: yeah it must feel like playing someone from another world. Although I remember Rotti once hit ByuN that was on a new account on NA, and there wasn't many people on ladder at the time of the day when it happened so they played a lot of consecutive games. It ended up in like 0-12 for ByuN and every game was more humiliating than the former.
It really feels like there's nothing you can do. I once played against soO when he laddered his NA account up and he just crushed my bio with ling bane swarmhost..
I played against Bomber once, like one week before he won that WCS finals. It wasn't pretty
I once met Lilbow on ladder when he was good and he just made 10000000 blink stalkers and destroyed my 111 tank push
On July 22 2017 03:02 [PkF] Wire wrote: yeah it must feel like playing someone from another world. Although I remember Rotti once hit ByuN that was on a new account on NA, and there wasn't many people on ladder at the time of the day when it happened so they played a lot of consecutive games. It ended up in like 0-12 for ByuN and every game was more humiliating than the former.
On July 22 2017 03:02 [PkF] Wire wrote: yeah it must feel like playing someone from another world. Although I remember Rotti once hit ByuN that was on a new account on NA, and there wasn't many people on ladder at the time of the day when it happened so they played a lot of consecutive games. It ended up in like 0-12 for ByuN and every game was more humiliating than the former.
It really feels like there's nothing you can do. I once played against soO when he laddered his NA account up and he just crushed my bio with ling bane swarmhost..
I played against Bomber once, like one week before he won that WCS finals. It wasn't pretty
On July 22 2017 03:02 [PkF] Wire wrote: yeah it must feel like playing someone from another world. Although I remember Rotti once hit ByuN that was on a new account on NA, and there wasn't many people on ladder at the time of the day when it happened so they played a lot of consecutive games. It ended up in like 0-12 for ByuN and every game was more humiliating than the former.
It really feels like there's nothing you can do. I once played against soO when he laddered his NA account up and he just crushed my bio with ling bane swarmhost..
I played against Bomber once, like one week before he won that WCS finals. It wasn't pretty
I once met Lilbow on ladder when he was good and he just made 10000000 blink stalkers and destroyed my 111 tank push
I was never good enough to hit someone of that level, I guess the result would have been horrible if that happened
oh I did meet someone good once, GAMETIME on NA. Of course he crushed me, but the game was pretty standard, he just had more stuff, not styling on me.
On July 22 2017 03:02 [PkF] Wire wrote: yeah it must feel like playing someone from another world. Although I remember Rotti once hit ByuN that was on a new account on NA, and there wasn't many people on ladder at the time of the day when it happened so they played a lot of consecutive games. It ended up in like 0-12 for ByuN and every game was more humiliating than the former.
It really feels like there's nothing you can do. I once played against soO when he laddered his NA account up and he just crushed my bio with ling bane swarmhost..
On July 22 2017 03:02 [PkF] Wire wrote: yeah it must feel like playing someone from another world. Although I remember Rotti once hit ByuN that was on a new account on NA, and there wasn't many people on ladder at the time of the day when it happened so they played a lot of consecutive games. It ended up in like 0-12 for ByuN and every game was more humiliating than the former.
It really feels like there's nothing you can do. I once played against soO when he laddered his NA account up and he just crushed my bio with ling bane swarmhost..
I played against Bomber once, like one week before he won that WCS finals. It wasn't pretty
On July 22 2017 03:02 [PkF] Wire wrote: yeah it must feel like playing someone from another world. Although I remember Rotti once hit ByuN that was on a new account on NA, and there wasn't many people on ladder at the time of the day when it happened so they played a lot of consecutive games. It ended up in like 0-12 for ByuN and every game was more humiliating than the former.
It really feels like there's nothing you can do. I once played against soO when he laddered his NA account up and he just crushed my bio with ling bane swarmhost..
I played against Bomber once, like one week before he won that WCS finals. It wasn't pretty
I once met Lilbow on ladder when he was good and he just made 10000000 blink stalkers and destroyed my 111 tank push
I was never good enough to hit someone of that level, I guess the result would have been horrible if that happened
oh I did meet someone good once, GAMETIME on NA. Of course he crushed me, but the game was pretty standard, he just had more stuff, not styling on me.
Oh yeah like a month ago i had the chance of getting 0-2d by Serral in a finnish tournament that was fun :D
On July 22 2017 03:02 [PkF] Wire wrote: yeah it must feel like playing someone from another world. Although I remember Rotti once hit ByuN that was on a new account on NA, and there wasn't many people on ladder at the time of the day when it happened so they played a lot of consecutive games. It ended up in like 0-12 for ByuN and every game was more humiliating than the former.
It really feels like there's nothing you can do. I once played against soO when he laddered his NA account up and he just crushed my bio with ling bane swarmhost..
On July 22 2017 03:02 [PkF] Wire wrote: yeah it must feel like playing someone from another world. Although I remember Rotti once hit ByuN that was on a new account on NA, and there wasn't many people on ladder at the time of the day when it happened so they played a lot of consecutive games. It ended up in like 0-12 for ByuN and every game was more humiliating than the former.
It really feels like there's nothing you can do. I once played against soO when he laddered his NA account up and he just crushed my bio with ling bane swarmhost..
i played Nerchio once on NA
i thought i had a chance for 22 minutes
and then he moved out
classic Nerchio, just turtling in his base
Alchemik probably went for some ultra-gay mutalisk build so that's normal.
On July 22 2017 03:02 [PkF] Wire wrote: yeah it must feel like playing someone from another world. Although I remember Rotti once hit ByuN that was on a new account on NA, and there wasn't many people on ladder at the time of the day when it happened so they played a lot of consecutive games. It ended up in like 0-12 for ByuN and every game was more humiliating than the former.
It really feels like there's nothing you can do. I once played against soO when he laddered his NA account up and he just crushed my bio with ling bane swarmhost..
i played Nerchio once on NA
i thought i had a chance for 22 minutes
and then he moved out
classic Nerchio, just turtling in his base
its an interesting moment where everything you thought about late game ZvZ is just turned on its head
On July 22 2017 03:02 [PkF] Wire wrote: yeah it must feel like playing someone from another world. Although I remember Rotti once hit ByuN that was on a new account on NA, and there wasn't many people on ladder at the time of the day when it happened so they played a lot of consecutive games. It ended up in like 0-12 for ByuN and every game was more humiliating than the former.
It really feels like there's nothing you can do. I once played against soO when he laddered his NA account up and he just crushed my bio with ling bane swarmhost..
On July 22 2017 03:02 [PkF] Wire wrote: yeah it must feel like playing someone from another world. Although I remember Rotti once hit ByuN that was on a new account on NA, and there wasn't many people on ladder at the time of the day when it happened so they played a lot of consecutive games. It ended up in like 0-12 for ByuN and every game was more humiliating than the former.
It really feels like there's nothing you can do. I once played against soO when he laddered his NA account up and he just crushed my bio with ling bane swarmhost..
i played Nerchio once on NA
i thought i had a chance for 22 minutes
and then he moved out
classic Nerchio, just turtling in his base
Alchemik probably went for some ultra-gay mutalisk build so that's normal.
On July 22 2017 03:51 [PkF] Wire wrote: well DnS is doing a pretty impressive job
I wondered where my jinxing powers went
I've always been rather close to you, even a shade better maybe, when it comes to those things worst thing is that I wouldn't even call that jinxing powers in my case, I just can't call games to save my life.
On July 22 2017 03:58 [PkF] Wire wrote: DnS seems to be making that build order on the spot honestly well after all that's probably the way Gumiho approaches every game
I can't wait for the really unexpected ByuN - Gumiho finals. The only question for me is whether Zest will get embarrassed at some point or get top 4 and lose to ByuN / Gumiho and be able to say that was still okay.
On July 22 2017 04:04 [PkF] Wire wrote: I can't wait for the really unexpected ByuN - Gumiho finals. The only question for me is whether Zest will get embarrassed at some point or get top 4 and lose to ByuN / Gumiho and be able to say that was still okay.
On July 22 2017 04:04 [PkF] Wire wrote: I can't wait for the really unexpected ByuN - Gumiho finals. The only question for me is whether Zest will get embarrassed at some point or get top 4 and lose to ByuN / Gumiho and be able to say that was still okay.
Zest will 3-0 ByuN, mark my words
I'll remember that, hopefully he doesn't lose to someone like Snute before that happens and if he meets Gumiho ?
On July 22 2017 04:04 [PkF] Wire wrote: I can't wait for the really unexpected ByuN - Gumiho finals. The only question for me is whether Zest will get embarrassed at some point or get top 4 and lose to ByuN / Gumiho and be able to say that was still okay.
Zest will 3-0 ByuN, mark my words
I'll remember that, hopefully he doesn't lose to someone like Snute before that happens and if he meets Gumiho ?
On July 22 2017 04:04 [PkF] Wire wrote: I can't wait for the really unexpected ByuN - Gumiho finals. The only question for me is whether Zest will get embarrassed at some point or get top 4 and lose to ByuN / Gumiho and be able to say that was still okay.
Zest will 3-0 ByuN, mark my words
I'll remember that, hopefully he doesn't lose to someone like Snute before that happens and if he meets Gumiho ?
He'll get 3-0'd. Ex-random player too strong
what makes you think Zest 3-0s ByuN and 3-1s DeMusliM ?
On July 22 2017 04:04 [PkF] Wire wrote: I can't wait for the really unexpected ByuN - Gumiho finals. The only question for me is whether Zest will get embarrassed at some point or get top 4 and lose to ByuN / Gumiho and be able to say that was still okay.
Zest will 3-0 ByuN, mark my words
I'll remember that, hopefully he doesn't lose to someone like Snute before that happens and if he meets Gumiho ?
He'll get 3-0'd. Ex-random player too strong
what makes you think Zest 3-0s ByuN and 3-1s DeMusliM ?
On July 22 2017 04:25 [PkF] Wire wrote: looking at recent results on aligulac, Zest is actually posting tolerable performances vs T atm. His PvZ is far worse.
Yeah but he dropped a map to Demuslim and 3-0'd TLO, so what does that tell us?
On July 22 2017 04:25 [PkF] Wire wrote: looking at recent results on aligulac, Zest is actually posting tolerable performances vs T atm. His PvZ is far worse.
Yeah but he dropped a map to Demuslim and 3-0'd TLO, so what does that tell us?
On July 22 2017 04:25 [PkF] Wire wrote: looking at recent results on aligulac, Zest is actually posting tolerable performances vs T atm. His PvZ is far worse.
Yeah but he dropped a map to Demuslim and 3-0'd TLO, so what does that tell us?
that we have to wait and see I guess ^^ but in the end I'd say I can picture him beating ByuN (probably not Gumiho) but I can picture him losing vs Serral or Snute as well.
On July 22 2017 04:57 Ej_ wrote: FFE is about the worst thing you can do vs a gasless pool
what do you think is the theoretical best answer to early pools ?
2gate expand is a hard counter if there's one
ok 2 gates not 3, I'll try that on ladder. I more or less always get 3 gates and play out of it, but I never really wondered if that's the optimal response.
On July 22 2017 04:57 Ej_ wrote: FFE is about the worst thing you can do vs a gasless pool
what do you think is the theoretical best answer to early pools ?
2gate expand is a hard counter if there's one
ok 2 gates not 3, I'll try that on ladder. I more or less always get 3 gates and play out of it, but I never really wondered if that's the optimal response.
specifically, the old LotV build where you go gate->gate+cyber->nexus and chrono 2 adepts asap. It holds the 8 lings no problem and there's no speed for Zerg so the adepts get a lot of drone kills.
e: this reminds me of LotV beta where people tried disruptor drops in PvZ and I rekted them with mutalisks
On July 22 2017 04:57 Ej_ wrote: FFE is about the worst thing you can do vs a gasless pool
what do you think is the theoretical best answer to early pools ?
2gate expand is a hard counter if there's one
ok 2 gates not 3, I'll try that on ladder. I more or less always get 3 gates and play out of it, but I never really wondered if that's the optimal response.
specifically, the old LotV build where you go gate->gate+cyber->nexus and chrono 2 adepts asap. It holds the 8 lings no problem and there's no speed for Zerg so the adepts get a lot of drone kills.
e: this reminds me of LotV beta where people tried disruptor drops in PvZ and I rekted them with mutalisks
you don't need to get a zealot against the first ling wave ?
On July 22 2017 04:57 Ej_ wrote: FFE is about the worst thing you can do vs a gasless pool
what do you think is the theoretical best answer to early pools ?
2gate expand is a hard counter if there's one
ok 2 gates not 3, I'll try that on ladder. I more or less always get 3 gates and play out of it, but I never really wondered if that's the optimal response.
specifically, the old LotV build where you go gate->gate+cyber->nexus and chrono 2 adepts asap. It holds the 8 lings no problem and there's no speed for Zerg so the adepts get a lot of drone kills.
e: this reminds me of LotV beta where people tried disruptor drops in PvZ and I rekted them with mutalisks
you don't need to get a zealot against the first ling wave ?
I'd still chrono, but I'm not actually sure. Better not skip it tho ^^. Just delays your adept a bit.
going gate gate+cyber, you get nexus before adepts? usually if i do that, without staggering any timings, the nexus times out only after the first two sets of adepts
On July 22 2017 05:11 nath wrote: going gate gate+cyber, you get nexus before adepts? usually if i do that, without staggering any timings, the nexus times out only after the first two sets of adepts
On July 22 2017 05:50 Lorning wrote: What I want is a 3 hour long host PvZ
It's been a while
that doesn't exist anymore you can have long carriers / mothership / archons / templars vs spores / corruptors / infestors / vipers games but that's the longest you'll get
it's probably the best engage Lambo could have hoped for. Of course it won't be enough, but that couldn't have been much better, DnS going afk and running his clumped templars into banes aside