GSL Super Tournament
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- Single-elimination bracket.
- Round of 16: Best-of-five.
- Quarterfinals: Best-of-five.
- Semifinals: Best-of-five.
- Finals: Best-of-seven.
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Poll: Maru vs soO Maru Wins (44) soO Wins (16) 60 total votes Your vote: Maru vs soO Poll: Classic vs sOs sOs Wins (28) Classic Wins (27) 55 total votes Your vote: Classic vs sOs Poll: Dark vs aLive Dark Wins (43) aLive Wins (7) 50 total votes Your vote: Dark vs aLive Poll: TRUE vs Trust TRUE Wins (27) Trust Wins (15) 42 total votes Your vote: TRUE vs Trust | ||
DBooN
Germany2701 Posts
Well, maybe TRUE can atleast deliver some entertaining games with lots of lings when he isn't completely outmatched. Also cheering for soO in the first round is gonna be lots of fun | ||
FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Classic 2-3 sOs Dark 3-0 aLive TRUE 2-3 Trust | ||
Zaros
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The_Red_Viper
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Classic > sOs Dark > aLive TRUE > Trust I think sOs vs classic could go sOs' way (which might be better for maru), but classic is probably the favorite. | ||
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
On April 04 2018 21:46 Zaros wrote: soO or Zest win the whole tournament Uhh, hey, I think you maybe made a typo or something. Neither of those guys are on Jin Air. | ||
Cricketer12
United States13829 Posts
This is my guess | ||
The_Templar
your Country52794 Posts
What on earth is "normie chat"? | ||
neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
sOs > Classic Dark >>> aLive TRUE >? Trust Looking forward to both TvZs. Though I'm a big Maru fan, I actually mostly want to watch Dark completely crush aLive. | ||
Cricketer12
United States13829 Posts
On April 04 2018 23:30 The_Templar wrote: What on earth is "normie chat"? ith made the name dude | ||
intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On April 04 2018 23:30 The_Templar wrote: What on earth is "normie chat"? Where the nerds sadly don't want me talking about anime. It happens anyway. | ||
Myrddrael
United Kingdom291 Posts
Pretty cool tournament: Do we see INnoVation bounce back and crush the whole thing? Do we see Rogue go from top dog to losing in the first match and dropping out early? Do we see Classic dominate until the finals before losing? Do we see Maru flop or continue his dominance? Do we see the return of ByuN? Hype | ||
Fango
United Kingdom8797 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
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sos 3-2 dark 3-1 true 3-1 | ||
royalroadweed
United States8298 Posts
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PuddleZerg
United States82 Posts
Then we'll be left to wonder if he could have won that last GSL if he hadn't fallen to Stats. I want to wonder that. | ||
RAPiDCasting
Korea (South)594 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31934 Posts
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
On April 04 2018 22:18 The_Red_Viper wrote: Maru > soO Classic > sOs Dark > aLive TRUE > Trust I think sOs vs classic could go sOs' way (which might be better for maru), but classic is probably the favorite. I'm not really sure if Maru vs Classic would be harder than Maru vs sOs, honestly. Classic has been in pretty good form, and he's obviously an incredible player, but those sOs vs Maru matches recently showed that sOs has some pretty good ideas for how to take Maru down specifically. I think both could be tough, but actually I have a pretty high confidence in Maru taking down Classic, whereas I feel a lot more iffy about whether sOs might find ways to catch him off guard. | ||
ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
sOs 3-2 Classic Dark 3-2 aLive TRUE 3-1 Trust | ||
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
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Ej_
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buffzerg33
96 Posts
Looooool | ||
HolydaKing
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FrostedMiniWheats
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MarianoSC2
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FrostedMiniWheats
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Ej_
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jarodtou
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Durnuu
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On April 05 2018 17:20 jarodtou wrote: where is the link to the stream, it is not appearing in TL for some reason.. looks live but no link. help please.. wanna see Maruuuu https://www.twitch.tv/gsl | ||
Heartland
Sweden24562 Posts
Will there be VODs? | ||
Vindicare605
United States15707 Posts
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Durnuu
13269 Posts
On April 05 2018 17:21 Vindicare605 wrote: WHAT?! why did soO GG?! Uh, because he was dead? | ||
MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On April 05 2018 17:21 Vindicare605 wrote: WHAT?! why did soO GG?! Well, maybe because it was 100 supply to 20 and soO was losing all of his army? | ||
Penev
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Soularion
Canada2764 Posts
Maru 3-1 soO sOs 2-3 Classic Dark 3-0 aLive TRUE 3-2 Trust | ||
ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
Kiting: 30/10 ByuNs. | ||
Heartland
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
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ShAd_1337
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ZigguratOfUr
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HolydaKing
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On April 05 2018 17:43 ShAd_1337 wrote: if dark can't beat maru, no zerg can Rogue already did it | ||
ilikeredheads
Canada1995 Posts
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
Another fascinating Maru vs X matchup. | ||
MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
On April 05 2018 17:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote: It's a bit weird how soO never showed the slightest sign of wanting to tech past poorly upgraded ling/bane/hydra. Maybe he thought he could win on that comp with enough units and then got stuck with it because of the counter pressure? | ||
xongnox
540 Posts
pure 3/3 hydra are so strong they reck bio/medivacs so easy it's not even fun. | ||
Durnuu
13269 Posts
On April 05 2018 17:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote: It's a bit weird how soO never showed the slightest sign of wanting to tech past poorly upgraded ling/bane/hydra. I think he just didn't want to go late game ever (soO isn't exactly the most solid late game player anyway), so he went all-in on lair tech. What surprised me most is that Artosis never mentioned soO's lack of tech, even saying "I don't see how Maru wins this" when it was 3/3 against 2/2 and Maru down only like 20 supply lol | ||
HolydaKing
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DBooN
Germany2701 Posts
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On April 05 2018 17:45 MarianoSC2 wrote: Maru regognizing his superiority here, just showing off :D He is so hot ATM that he can do whatever he wants and win even with weaker comp... So sick damn Yeah, if opponent somehow forgets that upgrades and tech exists, then he definitely can do anything and win, who knew. | ||
xongnox
540 Posts
edit : oh no neon violet ghost pewpew:/ | ||
FrostedMiniWheats
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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Durnuu
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ZigguratOfUr
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On April 05 2018 17:48 Durnuu wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2018 17:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote: It's a bit weird how soO never showed the slightest sign of wanting to tech past poorly upgraded ling/bane/hydra. I think he just didn't want to go late game ever (soO isn't exactly the most solid late game player anyway), so he went all-in on lair tech. What surprised me most is that Artosis never mentioned soO's lack of tech, even saying "I don't see how Maru wins this" when it was 3/3 against 2/2 and Maru down only like 20 supply lol Very likely. Though his upgrades look a bit weird to me if that's the case--not going for +2 range is iffy if you all-in on lair tech. | ||
FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Maybe soO does have a chance | ||
Heartland
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FrostedMiniWheats
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
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HolydaKing
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On April 05 2018 17:55 HolydaKing wrote: mutas... thats a good way to possibly lose this game. If he goes mass muta it's risky, but I think going for 7-8 is fine in this situation. edit: oh he's going to mass them. Or not? | ||
FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
Why Maru, why? | ||
HolydaKing
21224 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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HolydaKing
21224 Posts
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Ramiz1989
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Waxangel
United States32480 Posts
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AzAlexZ
Australia3302 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:03 Ramiz1989 wrote: Of course Swarm Hosts aren't doing anything, only SoO can make such dumb decisions to not micro locusts and just keep sending them to fortified base instead of spreading them over the map. Like 5 waves of Locusts from 14(!) Swarm Hosts destroyed, what, a Gas 2 times...? he got 3 tanks lol | ||
HolydaKing
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
It's a Zerg haunted house ;; | ||
Pandemona
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yay! | ||
Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:06 AzAlexZ wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2018 18:03 Ramiz1989 wrote: Of course Swarm Hosts aren't doing anything, only SoO can make such dumb decisions to not micro locusts and just keep sending them to fortified base instead of spreading them over the map. Like 5 waves of Locusts from 14(!) Swarm Hosts destroyed, what, a Gas 2 times...? he got 3 tanks lol Amazing value! Seriously, if Rogue was at that position he would go into mid game with such advantage from Swarm Hosts that he would probably end the game there. But well, SoO waited for late game, now we are doomed to watch these crawling game in which he is going to lose. | ||
ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
And is the mass nuke play serious from Maru? I thought he only went for that many to troll Serral. Huh. | ||
Heartland
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HolydaKing
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On April 05 2018 18:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Every terran has been going raven obviously, but I haven't seen too many mix in hyper-flight rotor banshees like Maru does. I'm not sure why. And is the mass nuke play serious from Maru? I thought he only went for that many to troll Serral. Huh. Obviously he wasn't trolling Serral. | ||
Heartland
Sweden24562 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Every terran has been going raven obviously, but I haven't seen too many mix in hyper-flight rotor banshees like Maru does. I'm not sure why. And is the mass nuke play serious from Maru? I thought he only went for that many to troll Serral. Huh. I've seen him do it on other late game TvZ scenarios. And I've never seen him lose the last few months | ||
Heartland
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Heartland
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Durnuu
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Waxangel
United States32480 Posts
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
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leublix
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Pandemona
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Aeromi
France14446 Posts
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HolydaKing
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:11 Heartland wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2018 18:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Every terran has been going raven obviously, but I haven't seen too many mix in hyper-flight rotor banshees like Maru does. I'm not sure why. And is the mass nuke play serious from Maru? I thought he only went for that many to troll Serral. Huh. I've seen him do it on other late game TvZ scenarios. And I've never seen him lose the last few months I guess it's probably the only way he has to burn his bank considering how cost efficient raven/ghosts are. | ||
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Ramiz1989
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On April 05 2018 18:14 HolydaKing wrote: soO lost this early on by stupid choices. Mutas and Swarmhosts did barely anything, he should've actually used his massive early lead. They didn't do anything just because he decided for them to not do anything.... | ||
Heartland
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ZigguratOfUr
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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Pandemona
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HolydaKing
21224 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:14 Snakestyle1 wrote: So what army is zerg supposed to build vs that LOL. I never know myself. Seems so impossible... Against Maru it most probably is impossible. | ||
ilikeredheads
Canada1995 Posts
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Durnuu
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Heartland
Sweden24562 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:12 leublix wrote: I'm so bored of this Kim Jong-Un playstyle. Nuking someone who already lost should be more of an American WW2 thing, wouldn't it? | ||
Heartland
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:16 Heartland wrote: So without Nydus or a really lucky attack Terran should win Nydus are rather useless in these scenarios. | ||
Argonauta
Spain4724 Posts
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Heartland
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Pandemona
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Durnuu
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Fyzar
Netherlands8009 Posts
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
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HolydaKing
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On April 05 2018 18:17 Argonauta wrote: soO has no larvae lol And probably also no clue on what to build. | ||
leublix
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On April 05 2018 18:17 Heartland wrote: Nuking someone who already lost should be more of an American WW2 thing, wouldn't it? Makes sense. | ||
Myrddrael
United Kingdom291 Posts
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:19 Myrddrael wrote: Guess we can put 'post GSL slump' call for Maru to bed Well if he keeps making BCs and nukes his ghosts again, and goes 2rax the next game, he can still lose :D | ||
HolydaKing
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On April 05 2018 18:19 Myrddrael wrote: Guess we can put 'post GSL slump' call for Maru to bed It's still GSL. :D Kind of. | ||
Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
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Durnuu
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JabuSeika
United States607 Posts
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:16 HolydaKing wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2018 18:14 Snakestyle1 wrote: So what army is zerg supposed to build vs that LOL. I never know myself. Seems so impossible... Against Maru it most probably is impossible. Dark showed some pretty plausible play against it recently, imo. | ||
ilikeredheads
Canada1995 Posts
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Aelendis
Belgium892 Posts
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agsub
Singapore366 Posts
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HolydaKing
21224 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:22 neutralrobot wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2018 18:16 HolydaKing wrote: On April 05 2018 18:14 Snakestyle1 wrote: So what army is zerg supposed to build vs that LOL. I never know myself. Seems so impossible... Against Maru it most probably is impossible. Dark showed some pretty plausible play against it recently, imo. I didn't see the series, did Maru even get to the point where he had a similar army? | ||
The_Red_Viper
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Icarus2
China109 Posts
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Durnuu
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On April 05 2018 18:23 HolydaKing wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2018 18:22 neutralrobot wrote: On April 05 2018 18:16 HolydaKing wrote: On April 05 2018 18:14 Snakestyle1 wrote: So what army is zerg supposed to build vs that LOL. I never know myself. Seems so impossible... Against Maru it most probably is impossible. Dark showed some pretty plausible play against it recently, imo. I didn't see the series, did Maru even get to the point where he had a similar army? Yes but Dark was ahead because of the early-midgame, whereas soO didn't capitalize on his early lead and Maru's greed put him right back into it. | ||
ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:22 neutralrobot wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2018 18:16 HolydaKing wrote: On April 05 2018 18:14 Snakestyle1 wrote: So what army is zerg supposed to build vs that LOL. I never know myself. Seems so impossible... Against Maru it most probably is impossible. Dark showed some pretty plausible play against it recently, imo. Yeah, but all those games involved attacking before Maru has set up his unbeatable army off a massive economy. | ||
SJ158
Brazil24 Posts
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Nerchio
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HolydaKing
21224 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:24 Durnuu wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2018 18:23 HolydaKing wrote: On April 05 2018 18:22 neutralrobot wrote: On April 05 2018 18:16 HolydaKing wrote: On April 05 2018 18:14 Snakestyle1 wrote: So what army is zerg supposed to build vs that LOL. I never know myself. Seems so impossible... Against Maru it most probably is impossible. Dark showed some pretty plausible play against it recently, imo. I didn't see the series, did Maru even get to the point where he had a similar army? Yes but Dark was ahead because of the early-midgame, whereas soO didn't capitalize on his early lead and Maru's greed put him right back into it. Makes sense, soO's early/mid game was prettty garbage in game 4. | ||
The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:24 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2018 18:22 neutralrobot wrote: On April 05 2018 18:16 HolydaKing wrote: On April 05 2018 18:14 Snakestyle1 wrote: So what army is zerg supposed to build vs that LOL. I never know myself. Seems so impossible... Against Maru it most probably is impossible. Dark showed some pretty plausible play against it recently, imo. Yeah, but all those games involved attacking before Maru has set up his unbeatable army off a massive economy. Which is a legit way to deal with strategies | ||
kajtarp
Hungary419 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:22 neutralrobot wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2018 18:16 HolydaKing wrote: On April 05 2018 18:14 Snakestyle1 wrote: So what army is zerg supposed to build vs that LOL. I never know myself. Seems so impossible... Against Maru it most probably is impossible. Dark showed some pretty plausible play against it recently, imo. yeah and still lost. I still can't understand why blizz didn't go trough with the Raven splash damage nerf. This is plain boring to watch, stack up energy call some missilies, half of the screen suddenly died. Repeat the process. Meanwhile ghosts are sniping everything ... | ||
Ej_
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On April 05 2018 18:24 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2018 18:22 neutralrobot wrote: On April 05 2018 18:16 HolydaKing wrote: On April 05 2018 18:14 Snakestyle1 wrote: So what army is zerg supposed to build vs that LOL. I never know myself. Seems so impossible... Against Maru it most probably is impossible. Dark showed some pretty plausible play against it recently, imo. Yeah, but all those games involved attacking before Maru has set up his unbeatable army off a massive economy. Just dont let them get there | ||
Argonauta
Spain4724 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:24 Nerchio wrote: Please bring back broodlord/infestor era if all terrans do ithis in a regular basis sure | ||
neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:23 HolydaKing wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2018 18:22 neutralrobot wrote: On April 05 2018 18:16 HolydaKing wrote: On April 05 2018 18:14 Snakestyle1 wrote: So what army is zerg supposed to build vs that LOL. I never know myself. Seems so impossible... Against Maru it most probably is impossible. Dark showed some pretty plausible play against it recently, imo. I didn't see the series, did Maru even get to the point where he had a similar army? There were two series. At WESG, Maru got to that point and lost. He won the series by cheesing the last two games. Dark had effectively neutralized him. in the GSL, Maru had adjusted his overall playstyle and was basically a step ahead of Dark throughout. The most memorable game in that series where Maru won with this kind of play was made possible by an early unscouted extra base. | ||
ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:26 neutralrobot wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2018 18:23 HolydaKing wrote: On April 05 2018 18:22 neutralrobot wrote: On April 05 2018 18:16 HolydaKing wrote: On April 05 2018 18:14 Snakestyle1 wrote: So what army is zerg supposed to build vs that LOL. I never know myself. Seems so impossible... Against Maru it most probably is impossible. Dark showed some pretty plausible play against it recently, imo. I didn't see the series, did Maru even get to the point where he had a similar army? There were two series. At WESG, Maru got to that point and lost. He won the series by cheesing the last two games. Dark had effectively neutralized him. in the GSL, Maru had adjusted his overall playstyle and was basically a step ahead of Dark throughout. The most memorable game in that series where Maru won with this kind of play was made possible by an early unscouted extra base. Nah, Maru never got to that point against Dark. On Backwater he could never secure his 6th whereas Dark was on 8 bases, Eastwatch was rather weird, but still ended before this phase in the game, and on Acid Plant his economy was limping due to losing everything to that roach attack. | ||
Poopi
France12463 Posts
It's Maru (!) beating soO (who isn't a monster in ZvT), not every zerg foreign included that smash other races, nor Sniper beating players better than him. We'll have to wait and see if there is a real problem. For now Maru still hasn't beaten Rogue with it. | ||
FrostedMiniWheats
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HolydaKing
21224 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:32 Aunvilgodess wrote: I do feel like Zergs kinda just tech into the lategame patiently because they feel they still have the superior lategame when its not the case any more. That was the case for soO for sure. He didn't really attempt to stop Maru from getting his ideal army. | ||
Heartland
Sweden24562 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:31 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Let's go sOs! Do some weird shit sadly it's hard to do weird shit in PvP, however counterintuitive that sounds. | ||
neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2018 18:26 neutralrobot wrote: On April 05 2018 18:23 HolydaKing wrote: On April 05 2018 18:22 neutralrobot wrote: On April 05 2018 18:16 HolydaKing wrote: On April 05 2018 18:14 Snakestyle1 wrote: So what army is zerg supposed to build vs that LOL. I never know myself. Seems so impossible... Against Maru it most probably is impossible. Dark showed some pretty plausible play against it recently, imo. I didn't see the series, did Maru even get to the point where he had a similar army? There were two series. At WESG, Maru got to that point and lost. He won the series by cheesing the last two games. Dark had effectively neutralized him. in the GSL, Maru had adjusted his overall playstyle and was basically a step ahead of Dark throughout. The most memorable game in that series where Maru won with this kind of play was made possible by an early unscouted extra base. Nah, Maru never got to that point against Dark. On Backwater he could never secure his 6th whereas Dark was on 8 bases, Eastwatch was rather weird, but still ended before this phase in the game, and on Acid Plant his economy was limping due to losing everything to that roach attack. Yeah, true. Dark won by keeping him economically strangled. But it still went late enough that we saw these kinds of unit comps, iirc. Didn't they both get maxed in like two of those games? My memory is kinda terrible sometimes. | ||
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Ej_
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On April 05 2018 18:36 neutralrobot wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2018 18:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote: On April 05 2018 18:26 neutralrobot wrote: On April 05 2018 18:23 HolydaKing wrote: On April 05 2018 18:22 neutralrobot wrote: On April 05 2018 18:16 HolydaKing wrote: On April 05 2018 18:14 Snakestyle1 wrote: So what army is zerg supposed to build vs that LOL. I never know myself. Seems so impossible... Against Maru it most probably is impossible. Dark showed some pretty plausible play against it recently, imo. I didn't see the series, did Maru even get to the point where he had a similar army? There were two series. At WESG, Maru got to that point and lost. He won the series by cheesing the last two games. Dark had effectively neutralized him. in the GSL, Maru had adjusted his overall playstyle and was basically a step ahead of Dark throughout. The most memorable game in that series where Maru won with this kind of play was made possible by an early unscouted extra base. Nah, Maru never got to that point against Dark. On Backwater he could never secure his 6th whereas Dark was on 8 bases, Eastwatch was rather weird, but still ended before this phase in the game, and on Acid Plant his economy was limping due to losing everything to that roach attack. Yeah, true. Dark won by keeping him economically strangled. But it still went late enough that we saw these kinds of unit comps, iirc. Didn't they both get maxed in like two of those games? My memory is kinda terrible sometimes. Yes, on Ascension Dark kept suiciding army after army on 100 drones vs 50 or less SCVs and eventually lost. | ||
Waxangel
United States32480 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:39 Ej_ wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2018 18:36 neutralrobot wrote: On April 05 2018 18:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote: On April 05 2018 18:26 neutralrobot wrote: On April 05 2018 18:23 HolydaKing wrote: On April 05 2018 18:22 neutralrobot wrote: On April 05 2018 18:16 HolydaKing wrote: On April 05 2018 18:14 Snakestyle1 wrote: So what army is zerg supposed to build vs that LOL. I never know myself. Seems so impossible... Against Maru it most probably is impossible. Dark showed some pretty plausible play against it recently, imo. I didn't see the series, did Maru even get to the point where he had a similar army? There were two series. At WESG, Maru got to that point and lost. He won the series by cheesing the last two games. Dark had effectively neutralized him. in the GSL, Maru had adjusted his overall playstyle and was basically a step ahead of Dark throughout. The most memorable game in that series where Maru won with this kind of play was made possible by an early unscouted extra base. Nah, Maru never got to that point against Dark. On Backwater he could never secure his 6th whereas Dark was on 8 bases, Eastwatch was rather weird, but still ended before this phase in the game, and on Acid Plant his economy was limping due to losing everything to that roach attack. Yeah, true. Dark won by keeping him economically strangled. But it still went late enough that we saw these kinds of unit comps, iirc. Didn't they both get maxed in like two of those games? My memory is kinda terrible sometimes. Yes, on Ascension Dark kept suiciding army after army on 100 drones vs 50 or less SCVs and eventually lost. Are we disregarding the Backwater game? | ||
Heartland
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:36 neutralrobot wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2018 18:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote: On April 05 2018 18:26 neutralrobot wrote: On April 05 2018 18:23 HolydaKing wrote: On April 05 2018 18:22 neutralrobot wrote: On April 05 2018 18:16 HolydaKing wrote: On April 05 2018 18:14 Snakestyle1 wrote: So what army is zerg supposed to build vs that LOL. I never know myself. Seems so impossible... Against Maru it most probably is impossible. Dark showed some pretty plausible play against it recently, imo. I didn't see the series, did Maru even get to the point where he had a similar army? There were two series. At WESG, Maru got to that point and lost. He won the series by cheesing the last two games. Dark had effectively neutralized him. in the GSL, Maru had adjusted his overall playstyle and was basically a step ahead of Dark throughout. The most memorable game in that series where Maru won with this kind of play was made possible by an early unscouted extra base. Nah, Maru never got to that point against Dark. On Backwater he could never secure his 6th whereas Dark was on 8 bases, Eastwatch was rather weird, but still ended before this phase in the game, and on Acid Plant his economy was limping due to losing everything to that roach attack. Yeah, true. Dark won by keeping him economically strangled. But it still went late enough that we saw these kinds of unit comps, iirc. Didn't they both get maxed in like two of those games? My memory is kinda terrible sometimes. They did get maxed, but Maru was still very constrained economically and could barely replace his units. And Dark had unlimited money. | ||
Ej_
47656 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:41 Waxangel wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2018 18:39 Ej_ wrote: On April 05 2018 18:36 neutralrobot wrote: On April 05 2018 18:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote: On April 05 2018 18:26 neutralrobot wrote: On April 05 2018 18:23 HolydaKing wrote: On April 05 2018 18:22 neutralrobot wrote: On April 05 2018 18:16 HolydaKing wrote: On April 05 2018 18:14 Snakestyle1 wrote: So what army is zerg supposed to build vs that LOL. I never know myself. Seems so impossible... Against Maru it most probably is impossible. Dark showed some pretty plausible play against it recently, imo. I didn't see the series, did Maru even get to the point where he had a similar army? There were two series. At WESG, Maru got to that point and lost. He won the series by cheesing the last two games. Dark had effectively neutralized him. in the GSL, Maru had adjusted his overall playstyle and was basically a step ahead of Dark throughout. The most memorable game in that series where Maru won with this kind of play was made possible by an early unscouted extra base. Nah, Maru never got to that point against Dark. On Backwater he could never secure his 6th whereas Dark was on 8 bases, Eastwatch was rather weird, but still ended before this phase in the game, and on Acid Plant his economy was limping due to losing everything to that roach attack. Yeah, true. Dark won by keeping him economically strangled. But it still went late enough that we saw these kinds of unit comps, iirc. Didn't they both get maxed in like two of those games? My memory is kinda terrible sometimes. Yes, on Ascension Dark kept suiciding army after army on 100 drones vs 50 or less SCVs and eventually lost. Are we disregarding the Backwater game? I thought that's what ZOU talked about, Maru was dead and Dark just took ages to actually burry him. | ||
Myrddrael
United Kingdom291 Posts
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AzAlexZ
Australia3302 Posts
polite version: Gamble gamble Artosis version: CHEESY PIECE OF SHIT | ||
GumBa
United Kingdom31934 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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Myrddrael
United Kingdom291 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:45 Myrddrael wrote: Wow, that was a REALLY bad game from Classic Into a REALLY good game from Classic | ||
Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
GG Classic! | ||
Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
On April 05 2018 18:17 Heartland wrote: Nuking someone who already lost should be more of an American WW2 thing, wouldn't it? Haha nice one Zerg need to adapt. For a loooong time they were used (and glad) to have the stronger lategame; it was for the terran to kill them quickly (and they were ok with that) now that after years it's their turn to kill the terran before he ge the perfect army, they whine :/ | ||
MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
He is great at PvP against other protosses but Classic usually bops him right? | ||
GumBa
United Kingdom31934 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
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Olli
Austria24413 Posts
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
On April 05 2018 19:01 GumBa wrote: I might switch to Protoss. PvP seems much more reasonable. It surprisingly is. I've been playing a lot of Protoss and diamond 2 is literally only Protoss, but it's not a bad mirror to play at all. | ||
Olli
Austria24413 Posts
On April 05 2018 19:02 Ciaus_Dronu wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2018 19:01 GumBa wrote: I might switch to Protoss. PvP seems much more reasonable. It surprisingly is. I've been playing a lot of Protoss and diamond 2 is literally only Protoss, but it's not a bad mirror to play at all. Yeah, it's quite enjoyable these days. | ||
egrimm
Poland1196 Posts
On April 05 2018 19:02 Ciaus_Dronu wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2018 19:01 GumBa wrote: I might switch to Protoss. PvP seems much more reasonable. It surprisingly is. I've been playing a lot of Protoss and diamond 2 is literally only Protoss, but it's not a bad mirror to play at all. This is interesting. In my experience I rarely ever meet P on a ladder. | ||
LoneYoShi
France1348 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31934 Posts
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
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Olli
Austria24413 Posts
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Myrddrael
United Kingdom291 Posts
On April 05 2018 19:08 LoneYoShi wrote: Diamond 1 terran here, I only face terrans. Meching terrans. All. The. Time. I'm actually seriously considering stopping playing for a while because I can't stand boring camping mech. Anyway, I'd be glad to face some more protosses ^^ Same for me. Mostly get matched vs Terran, some Zerg and very rarely a Protoss. Anywho. Cool series from Classic and sOs. Some nice mind games from Classic in the final game | ||
Ej_
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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egrimm
Poland1196 Posts
anyway good play from Classic gg | ||
Ej_
47656 Posts
On April 05 2018 19:18 neutralrobot wrote: Ahh, almost time to watch Dark make aLive wish he'd never been born! | ||
GumBa
United Kingdom31934 Posts
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Penev
28345 Posts
On April 05 2018 19:22 Ej_ wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2018 19:18 neutralrobot wrote: Ahh, almost time to watch Dark make aLive wish he'd never been born! aha | ||
Ej_
47656 Posts
On April 05 2018 19:22 GumBa wrote: aLive's ability to just stick around the scene since basically the start honestly impresses me. He's like those aliens in Dr.Who that you forgot about whenever you lost sight of them. | ||
GumBa
United Kingdom31934 Posts
On April 05 2018 19:24 Ej_ wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2018 19:22 GumBa wrote: aLive's ability to just stick around the scene since basically the start honestly impresses me. He's like those aliens in Dr.Who that you forgot about whenever you lost sight of them. aLive is the cockroach Terran honestly. | ||
Heartland
Sweden24562 Posts
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
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Caelum93
62 Posts
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Poopi
France12463 Posts
On April 05 2018 19:43 Caelum93 wrote: Compared to Maru's game it feels like I am watching a Diamond/Master Terran. (No offense q.q) Also because Dark is miles better at ZvT than soO | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51319 Posts
On April 05 2018 19:41 MarianoSC2 wrote: How did this Alive guy get here? He is soooo bad :/ Beat PartinG and Leenock twice. | ||
Ej_
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DBooN
Germany2701 Posts
On April 05 2018 19:46 Ej_ wrote: aLiven needs to steal all the scans if he wants to win this series. Or reveal his demon form. | ||
Olli
Austria24413 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51319 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51319 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24562 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51319 Posts
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Olli
Austria24413 Posts
On April 05 2018 19:56 Pandemona wrote: aLive god! Nice pre emptive splits, guess Dark thought he would win anyway due to being on creep. Guess not. Even game now? Still very Dark favored | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51319 Posts
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Carminedust
487 Posts
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Olli
Austria24413 Posts
On April 05 2018 20:03 Pandemona wrote: Guess thats what happens when you stop pressuring your opponent xD He just ran out of steam, that 2/2 timing was almost all-in. Once ultras got out in decent numbers (and with strong upgrades), there was no way aLive could pressure. That's why I said earlier it was still Dark favored | ||
neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51319 Posts
Put Maru or Byun in that position and they defo "all in" or go for the throat as a put it in that situation. | ||
Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
Ouchies. | ||
Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
I think as of now, Alive is afraid the Dark. | ||
Carminedust
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AzAlexZ
Australia3302 Posts
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Penev
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Weavel
Finland9213 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On April 05 2018 20:10 Pandemona wrote: But thats the point, he had the moment to "go for the throat" after that fight, there was 0 banelings left and not fully upgraded Ultras out which he was killing. He decided to back off and re group even with units coming in to the fight from rally points. Was just odd decision. Then went for drop in the main which sniped the ultra cavern and spawning pool. To again sit back and do nothing xD Put Maru or Byun in that position and they defo "all in" or go for the throat as a put it in that situation. The game on Catalyst was over when Dark cancelled the natural. Nothing else to say. | ||
gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
I don't think we'll see a hive or fleet beacon here | ||
Musicus
Germany23567 Posts
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31934 Posts
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
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Weavel
Finland9213 Posts
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egrimm
Poland1196 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On April 05 2018 20:09 neutralrobot wrote: I guess aLive is just too honorable to go into auto-win lategame comps like that shady Maru guy keeps doing. Seems pretty disrespectful to Maru to call it auto-win. | ||
MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
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Myrddrael
United Kingdom291 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15614 Posts
On April 05 2018 21:47 Myrddrael wrote: 4/4 predictions today boiz Same but tomorrow will prob be worse since I have some risky picks (Inno, Byun, Solar) | ||
goody153
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
Maru vs Dark might become a neat rivalry at this point, something competition always needs. | ||
MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On the other hand Dark will have his hands full with True. I actually think True might be able to beat him, that would be something indeed. | ||
Aunvilgodess
954 Posts
On April 05 2018 22:04 The_Red_Viper wrote: I wonder if maru's tvp is good enough to beat classic, if so we will get another maru vs dark which would be fantastic. Maru vs Dark might become a neat rivalry at this point, something competition always needs. Dark is the substitute-Life anyway Biggest upset is probably TRUE? I remember him being reeeaaaally bad after he'd been in NA for too long. Like mid-tier foreigner kind of bad. | ||
Myrddrael
United Kingdom291 Posts
On April 05 2018 22:00 Charoisaur wrote: Same but tomorrow will prob be worse since I have some risky picks (Inno, Byun, Solar) Same here except I went for Gummybro instead of Solar | ||
starkiller123
United States4029 Posts
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Myrddrael
United Kingdom291 Posts
On April 05 2018 23:36 starkiller123 wrote: Any good games today? Maru vs SoO game 2 was pretty good if you're a Terran fan. Seeing him win with a style that usually doesn't was particularly tasty Classic vs sOs games 1, 3, 4 and 5 were all pretty good. TRUE vs Trust were all interesting games between two underdogs of the tournament. Dark vs aLive was somewhat one sided. aLive had chances here and there but Dark snuffed them out. None were particularly amazing though; just Dark doing Dark things | ||
ShAd_1337
Germany1042 Posts
On April 05 2018 22:10 MarianoSC2 wrote: On the other hand Dark will have his hands full with True. I actually think True might be able to beat him, that would be something indeed. the fuck. are you high? true has ZERO chance against dark. will be a typicial dark vs foreigner zvz. just like their katowice series. | ||
Fango
United Kingdom8797 Posts
On April 05 2018 22:04 The_Red_Viper wrote: I wonder if maru's tvp is good enough to beat classic, if so we will get another maru vs dark which would be fantastic. Maru vs Dark might become a neat rivalry at this point, something competition always needs. He avoided Classic at Katowice and WeSG but I think it was for the better. Classic's PvT has looked flawless since 4.0. Unless Stats' PvT. It's still the only matchup Maru looks to be losing in right now | ||
juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
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