NATIONWARS
USA vs Netherlands
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NATIONWARS USA vs Netherlands Sweden vs Germany FIGHT StarCraft II: NationWars V English stream https://www.twitch.tv/ogaminginter | ||
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I feel like his SCV's were his most effective unit for stopping Zealots and Adepts. | ||
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On April 06 2018 00:50 Vanadiel wrote: If USA qualify for Paris, the live reaction to Avilo presence might get problematic to be honest. you don't want avilo's stinky memes being yelled by half of the crowd during the whole weekend ? | ||
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On April 06 2018 01:21 Penev wrote: schlappi time *klerks time | ||
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TheDougler
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Is that the Bismarck? I'm rooting for Germany ( <3 TLO and Showtime ), but this is too tempting to not post: | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
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On April 06 2018 01:52 TheDougler wrote: The picture for this is dope. Is that the Bismarck? yes or at least thats what google images told me | ||
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On April 06 2018 01:52 TheDougler wrote: The picture for this is dope. Is that the Bismarck? I'm rooting for Germany ( <3 TLO and Showtime ), but this is too tempting to not post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KecIdlEAKhU ofc american air craft carrier, dutch 17th century ship, bismarck and viking longship | ||
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Penev
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disco balls mules, is there a kitchen sink skin? | ||
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
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On April 06 2018 02:06 Fango wrote: Manner muling when it isn't the last game? Psychological warfare | ||
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Ansibled
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On April 06 2018 01:38 Carminedust wrote: cant wait for the Avilo revive snipe on Uthermal !! next time. | ||
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On April 06 2018 02:19 Gurbak wrote: neeb was never good PvP one trick | ||
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MarianoSC2
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Hm I really thought Neeb can do it, but the last 2 games his builds were just abysmal. Uthermal looked to be on another level... | ||
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HotDOSBuns
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When I die, put that on my gravestone. Nice interview | ||
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Weavel
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Musicus
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so sad | ||
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Heartland
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Nakajin
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On April 06 2018 03:10 Heartland wrote: I hope Sweden loses Can't believe you would go against your own heartland | ||
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On April 06 2018 03:32 Heartland wrote: Come on Germany, destroy these Swedes ah I see, you're counter jinxing | ||
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On April 06 2018 03:35 Penev wrote: revive heromarine? top notch jinx right there | ||
Heartland
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On April 06 2018 03:33 Penev wrote: ah I see, you're counter jinxing nah, just salty over how bad Sweden has been in sc2 for the last few years | ||
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Heartland
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On April 06 2018 04:16 Shellshock wrote: shit I missed avilo Oh yeah. I wonder how it was. | ||
Shellshock
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On April 06 2018 04:17 Heartland wrote: Oh yeah. I wonder how it was. based on the reddit post, elite | ||
Heartland
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On April 06 2018 04:17 Shellshock wrote: Show nested quote + On April 06 2018 04:17 Heartland wrote: On April 06 2018 04:16 Shellshock wrote: shit I missed avilo Oh yeah. I wonder how it was. based on the reddit post, elite Link plz | ||
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Charoisaur
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On April 06 2018 04:20 Heartland wrote: I just watched the True-Trust Super Tour game and wow, you can really tell the difference between Trust's double Archon moves and ShowTimes In that Trust's is better or Showtimes? | ||
Heartland
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On April 06 2018 04:23 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On April 06 2018 04:20 Heartland wrote: I just watched the True-Trust Super Tour game and wow, you can really tell the difference between Trust's double Archon moves and ShowTimes In that Trust's is better or Showtimes? Trusts | ||
HsDLTitich
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On April 06 2018 04:17 Shellshock wrote: Show nested quote + On April 06 2018 04:17 Heartland wrote: On April 06 2018 04:16 Shellshock wrote: shit I missed avilo Oh yeah. I wonder how it was. based on the reddit post, elite There was an oracle on /dance, that's all I can say | ||
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Nerchio
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On April 06 2018 04:23 Heartland wrote: Show nested quote + On April 06 2018 04:23 Charoisaur wrote: On April 06 2018 04:20 Heartland wrote: I just watched the True-Trust Super Tour game and wow, you can really tell the difference between Trust's double Archon moves and ShowTimes In that Trust's is better or Showtimes? Trusts Yeah I liked the moment where he lost 2 archons the most against true | ||
Shellshock
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On April 06 2018 04:18 Heartland wrote: Show nested quote + On April 06 2018 04:17 Shellshock wrote: On April 06 2018 04:17 Heartland wrote: On April 06 2018 04:16 Shellshock wrote: shit I missed avilo Oh yeah. I wonder how it was. based on the reddit post, elite Link plz https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/8a0s5f/avilo_should_be_thrown_out_honestly/ | ||
Tyrhanius
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On April 06 2018 04:28 Nerchio wrote: Show nested quote + On April 06 2018 04:23 Heartland wrote: On April 06 2018 04:23 Charoisaur wrote: On April 06 2018 04:20 Heartland wrote: I just watched the True-Trust Super Tour game and wow, you can really tell the difference between Trust's double Archon moves and ShowTimes In that Trust's is better or Showtimes? Trusts Yeah I liked the moment where he lost 2 archons the most against true That premonition | ||
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Penev
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v Z is schlappi's worst match up | ||
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On April 06 2018 04:54 JustPassingBy wrote: I feel bad for Showtime, he was so desparete for the win. Too bad his two teammates wanted to troll Avilo in the losers bracket instead. TLO has to build up confidence first before facing the Netherlands. If he beats avilo, maybe he can take on Rotti. | ||
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On April 06 2018 04:23 Heartland wrote: Show nested quote + On April 06 2018 04:23 Charoisaur wrote: On April 06 2018 04:20 Heartland wrote: I just watched the True-Trust Super Tour game and wow, you can really tell the difference between Trust's double Archon moves and ShowTimes In that Trust's is better or Showtimes? Trusts lol | ||
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On April 06 2018 06:12 SC2ShoWTimE wrote: Show nested quote + On April 06 2018 04:23 Heartland wrote: On April 06 2018 04:23 Charoisaur wrote: On April 06 2018 04:20 Heartland wrote: I just watched the True-Trust Super Tour game and wow, you can really tell the difference between Trust's double Archon moves and ShowTimes In that Trust's is better or Showtimes? Trusts lol xD | ||
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Poopi
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The problem tho is that he he is worse than probably every protoss in ro16 teams so he he has no real right to complain and people will obviously mock him if he does this against a pro. When it's Maru that says he doesn't want to play TvP, people won't be as salty. | ||
ZigguratOfUr
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On April 06 2018 07:20 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Wait why is reddit so mad at avilo. He said one sentence about protoss instead of gg, harstem gave a burn back in interview... was all in good fun imo. Apart from reddit always being mad at avilo it's probably partly because of the follow-up twitter whining about Protoss, casters, people criticizing him etc. | ||
mierin
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On April 06 2018 07:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Show nested quote + On April 06 2018 07:20 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Wait why is reddit so mad at avilo. He said one sentence about protoss instead of gg, harstem gave a burn back in interview... was all in good fun imo. Apart from reddit always being mad at avilo it's probably partly because of the follow-up twitter whining about Protoss, casters, people criticizing him etc. There should be some safety net to avoid having players like him be on national rosters. What if Neeb somehow manages to carry the team to Paris? Having him onstage would be...interesting. | ||
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edit: looks like the quality of the live version is good though | ||
pvsnp
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On April 06 2018 08:13 mierin wrote: Show nested quote + On April 06 2018 07:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote: On April 06 2018 07:20 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Wait why is reddit so mad at avilo. He said one sentence about protoss instead of gg, harstem gave a burn back in interview... was all in good fun imo. Apart from reddit always being mad at avilo it's probably partly because of the follow-up twitter whining about Protoss, casters, people criticizing him etc. There should be some safety net to avoid having players like him be on national rosters. What if Neeb somehow manages to carry the team to Paris? Having him onstage would be...interesting. Apparently avilo in-person is a reasonably sane and normal human being. Or at least that's what the people who met him at that Philadelphia tournament (Cheesedelphia or something) said. | ||
DeepElemBlues
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On April 06 2018 11:20 pvsnp wrote: Show nested quote + On April 06 2018 08:13 mierin wrote: On April 06 2018 07:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote: On April 06 2018 07:20 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Wait why is reddit so mad at avilo. He said one sentence about protoss instead of gg, harstem gave a burn back in interview... was all in good fun imo. Apart from reddit always being mad at avilo it's probably partly because of the follow-up twitter whining about Protoss, casters, people criticizing him etc. There should be some safety net to avoid having players like him be on national rosters. What if Neeb somehow manages to carry the team to Paris? Having him onstage would be...interesting. Apparently avilo in-person is a reasonably sane and normal human being. Or at least that's what the people who met him at that Philadelphia tournament (Cheesedelphia or something) said. to get all pop psychology-y he strikes me as someone who is a nice, quiet person offline who could stand to be a bit more voluble and assertive in personal interactions like a lot of people who are loud and brash and abrasive online are, because they aren't more that way offline he did what he was voted into nationwars to do, it is what it is blah blah blah | ||
JustPassingBy
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On April 06 2018 08:13 mierin wrote: Show nested quote + On April 06 2018 07:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote: On April 06 2018 07:20 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Wait why is reddit so mad at avilo. He said one sentence about protoss instead of gg, harstem gave a burn back in interview... was all in good fun imo. Apart from reddit always being mad at avilo it's probably partly because of the follow-up twitter whining about Protoss, casters, people criticizing him etc. There should be some safety net to avoid having players like him be on national rosters. What if Neeb somehow manages to carry the team to Paris? Having him onstage would be...interesting. Well, if you don't want to pick the players people voted for, you can either - handpick the teams yourself or - have short qualifiers for each team | ||
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BaneRiders
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On April 06 2018 22:51 rotta wrote: I feel like this would've been a better ship to represent Sweden in the OP: + Show Spoiler + After beating Germany? Hardly! | ||
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avilo tlo for maximum drama plz | ||
Boggyb
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On April 07 2018 02:14 Gurbak wrote: ! avilo tlo for maximum drama plz How does a game between meme players have any drama? | ||
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Nakajin
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On April 07 2018 02:15 Komodo wrote: I have watched few Avilo streams in the past and that guy trully just complains about everything, let's hope the guy can win a game or two just so the viewers gets fueled. It's kind of his gimmick, saddly he could probably be quite a good player if he was willing to adapt instead of just rage | ||
Charoisaur
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On April 07 2018 02:19 Nakajin wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 02:15 Komodo wrote: I have watched few Avilo streams in the past and that guy trully just complains about everything, let's hope the guy can win a game or two just so the viewers gets fueled. It's kind of his gimmick, saddly he could probably be quite a good player if he was willing to adapt instead of just rage I'd say GM is pretty decent. | ||
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On April 07 2018 02:30 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 02:19 Nakajin wrote: On April 07 2018 02:15 Komodo wrote: I have watched few Avilo streams in the past and that guy trully just complains about everything, let's hope the guy can win a game or two just so the viewers gets fueled. It's kind of his gimmick, saddly he could probably be quite a good player if he was willing to adapt instead of just rage I'd say GM is pretty decent. You can get to GM cannon rushing. Rank doesn't mean anything if you can't deliver when it counts | ||
Durnuu
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On April 07 2018 02:30 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 02:19 Nakajin wrote: On April 07 2018 02:15 Komodo wrote: I have watched few Avilo streams in the past and that guy trully just complains about everything, let's hope the guy can win a game or two just so the viewers gets fueled. It's kind of his gimmick, saddly he could probably be quite a good player if he was willing to adapt instead of just rage I'd say GM is pretty decent. Does GM on NA even count? | ||
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On April 07 2018 02:36 LongShot27 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 02:30 Charoisaur wrote: On April 07 2018 02:19 Nakajin wrote: On April 07 2018 02:15 Komodo wrote: I have watched few Avilo streams in the past and that guy trully just complains about everything, let's hope the guy can win a game or two just so the viewers gets fueled. It's kind of his gimmick, saddly he could probably be quite a good player if he was willing to adapt instead of just rage I'd say GM is pretty decent. You can get to GM cannon rushing. Rank doesn't mean anything if you can't deliver when it counts You can win Blizzcon cannon rushing. Don't look down on the strat. edit: Cloak banshee against Robo... | ||
Charoisaur
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On April 07 2018 02:36 LongShot27 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 02:30 Charoisaur wrote: On April 07 2018 02:19 Nakajin wrote: On April 07 2018 02:15 Komodo wrote: I have watched few Avilo streams in the past and that guy trully just complains about everything, let's hope the guy can win a game or two just so the viewers gets fueled. It's kind of his gimmick, saddly he could probably be quite a good player if he was willing to adapt instead of just rage I'd say GM is pretty decent. You can get to GM cannon rushing. Rank doesn't mean anything if you can't deliver when it counts Yeah if you're a master of cannonrushes. There are thousands of cannonrushers on the ladder and how many of them are gm? | ||
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On April 07 2018 02:41 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 02:36 LongShot27 wrote: On April 07 2018 02:30 Charoisaur wrote: On April 07 2018 02:19 Nakajin wrote: On April 07 2018 02:15 Komodo wrote: I have watched few Avilo streams in the past and that guy trully just complains about everything, let's hope the guy can win a game or two just so the viewers gets fueled. It's kind of his gimmick, saddly he could probably be quite a good player if he was willing to adapt instead of just rage I'd say GM is pretty decent. You can get to GM cannon rushing. Rank doesn't mean anything if you can't deliver when it counts Yeah if you're a master of cannonrushes. There are thousands of cannonrushers on the ladder and how many of them are gm? And there are thousands of macro players, how many of them are gm? If you can't win games when it matters, you're rank or how good anyone thinks you are means 10% of jackshit | ||
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On April 07 2018 02:46 Mun_Su wrote: Avilo is not playing bad, i Like the banshee harass yeah it's pretty good for a bronze player | ||
MarianoSC2
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Okay NVM At least a decent and interesting game though | ||
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Clonester
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"has left the game" Fair enough | ||
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On April 07 2018 02:53 Topin wrote: wtf nothing died? Yeah I'm used to watching Zerg get trashed, it like tickled the shields of the army...hahaha | ||
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On April 07 2018 02:54 LongShot27 wrote: That was such a fucking throw Don't really think avilo was in a clear winning position. | ||
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On April 07 2018 02:30 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 02:19 Nakajin wrote: On April 07 2018 02:15 Komodo wrote: I have watched few Avilo streams in the past and that guy trully just complains about everything, let's hope the guy can win a game or two just so the viewers gets fueled. It's kind of his gimmick, saddly he could probably be quite a good player if he was willing to adapt instead of just rage I'd say GM is pretty decent. He's high master/low GM on NA I think. He's a good player but not exactly something to be amazed over. Didn't Parting troll on NA after he came back and end up rank one? | ||
HsDLTitich
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On April 07 2018 02:55 Mun_Su wrote: c'mon that was fun I mean, it was quite an antliclimatic game where both players turtled until Showtime got too bored and attacked... | ||
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LMAO | ||
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On April 07 2018 03:18 mierin wrote: Neeb reverse all kill INC The dream is real | ||
Penev
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classic foreigner plays | ||
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On April 07 2018 03:34 Boggyb wrote: Not one guy. TLO was losing in group phases, so it wasn't just Neeb. come on, just go with it | ||
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On April 07 2018 03:34 Boggyb wrote: Not one guy. TLO was losing in group phases, so it wasn't just Neeb. Well in 2 WCS tournaments it was just Neeb. Playing Neeb twice cause Neeb didn't win groups. | ||
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On April 07 2018 03:59 Shellshock wrote: why didnt they rez avilo? Maybe they want to insult Heromarine. No need to rez the ace | ||
Shellshock
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On April 07 2018 04:01 Majick wrote: Maybe they want to insult Heromarine. No need to rez the ace good point, that's a max BM play by USA | ||
Fango
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On April 07 2018 03:56 Tyrhanius wrote: Well, neeb isn't really impressive anymore, Serral is far better than him. I don't think so. Neeb outplayed Serral at Katowice then Serral stomped him in WeSG. When you factor in that ZvP is zerg favoured as well it's quite close between them. | ||
MASTERCAKES
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On April 07 2018 03:56 Tyrhanius wrote: Well, neeb isn't really impressive anymore, Serral is far better than him. He's always played better after going to Korea. Hopefully he still plans on going this year. | ||
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ArtyK
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On April 07 2018 04:02 Fango wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 03:56 Tyrhanius wrote: Well, neeb isn't really impressive anymore, Serral is far better than him. I don't think so. Neeb outplayed Serral at Katowice then Serral stomped him in WeSG. When you factor in that ZvP is zerg favoured as well it's quite close between them. he outplayed serral at Katowice by losing? | ||
Luolis
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On April 07 2018 04:02 Fango wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 03:56 Tyrhanius wrote: Well, neeb isn't really impressive anymore, Serral is far better than him. I don't think so. Neeb outplayed Serral at Katowice then Serral stomped him in WeSG. When you factor in that ZvP is zerg favoured as well it's quite close between them. Neeb outplayed Serral but still lost) | ||
Fango
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On April 07 2018 04:21 ArtyK wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 04:02 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 03:56 Tyrhanius wrote: Well, neeb isn't really impressive anymore, Serral is far better than him. I don't think so. Neeb outplayed Serral at Katowice then Serral stomped him in WeSG. When you factor in that ZvP is zerg favoured as well it's quite close between them. he outplayed serral at Katowice by losing? Winning the game until technical issues result in you losing an entire army still counts as outplaying in my eyes. He should have won that series 2-1. | ||
ArtyK
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On April 07 2018 04:25 Fango wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 04:21 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:02 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 03:56 Tyrhanius wrote: Well, neeb isn't really impressive anymore, Serral is far better than him. I don't think so. Neeb outplayed Serral at Katowice then Serral stomped him in WeSG. When you factor in that ZvP is zerg favoured as well it's quite close between them. he outplayed serral at Katowice by losing? Winning the game until technical issues result in you losing an entire army still counts as outplaying in my eyes. He should have won that series 2-1. ah right cause it always affects only one player | ||
Fango
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On April 07 2018 04:27 ArtyK wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 04:25 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:21 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:02 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 03:56 Tyrhanius wrote: Well, neeb isn't really impressive anymore, Serral is far better than him. I don't think so. Neeb outplayed Serral at Katowice then Serral stomped him in WeSG. When you factor in that ZvP is zerg favoured as well it's quite close between them. he outplayed serral at Katowice by losing? Winning the game until technical issues result in you losing an entire army still counts as outplaying in my eyes. He should have won that series 2-1. ah right cause it always affects only one player Neeb was the one who lost his army because of it. Maybe it effected Serral as well, sure, but it didn't literally make him lose the game from a winning position. Neeb was winning until that happened, hence why I say while Serral technically won the series, Neeb was better in terms of performance. | ||
HolydaKing
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On April 07 2018 04:27 ArtyK wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 04:25 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:21 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:02 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 03:56 Tyrhanius wrote: Well, neeb isn't really impressive anymore, Serral is far better than him. I don't think so. Neeb outplayed Serral at Katowice then Serral stomped him in WeSG. When you factor in that ZvP is zerg favoured as well it's quite close between them. he outplayed serral at Katowice by losing? Winning the game until technical issues result in you losing an entire army still counts as outplaying in my eyes. He should have won that series 2-1. ah right cause it always affects only one player serral was the one with the issues as well. it could have well affected him the whole time. neeb didn't complain iirc, but correct me if i'm wrong. | ||
ArtyK
France3143 Posts
On April 07 2018 04:30 Fango wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 04:27 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:25 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:21 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:02 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 03:56 Tyrhanius wrote: Well, neeb isn't really impressive anymore, Serral is far better than him. I don't think so. Neeb outplayed Serral at Katowice then Serral stomped him in WeSG. When you factor in that ZvP is zerg favoured as well it's quite close between them. he outplayed serral at Katowice by losing? Winning the game until technical issues result in you losing an entire army still counts as outplaying in my eyes. He should have won that series 2-1. ah right cause it always affects only one player Neeb was the one who lost his army because of it. Maybe it effected Serral as well, sure, but it didn't literally make him lose the game from a winning position. Neeb was winning until that happened, hence why I say while Serral technically won the series, Neeb was better in terms of performance. and he sure showed it by outplaying the rest of his group as did serral | ||
Fango
United Kingdom8808 Posts
On April 07 2018 04:32 ArtyK wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 04:30 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:27 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:25 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:21 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:02 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 03:56 Tyrhanius wrote: Well, neeb isn't really impressive anymore, Serral is far better than him. I don't think so. Neeb outplayed Serral at Katowice then Serral stomped him in WeSG. When you factor in that ZvP is zerg favoured as well it's quite close between them. he outplayed serral at Katowice by losing? Winning the game until technical issues result in you losing an entire army still counts as outplaying in my eyes. He should have won that series 2-1. ah right cause it always affects only one player Neeb was the one who lost his army because of it. Maybe it effected Serral as well, sure, but it didn't literally make him lose the game from a winning position. Neeb was winning until that happened, hence why I say while Serral technically won the series, Neeb was better in terms of performance. and he sure showed it by outplaying the rest of his group as did serral The rest of the group was either pure zerg (Serral's best MU), or Zest (who can't play PvZ) so it's really not suprising. It's not like Neeb did that badly either, if not for the technical issues vs Serral he would've gotten out the group. | ||
DBooN
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Penev
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On April 07 2018 03:56 Tyrhanius wrote: Well, neeb isn't really impressive anymore, Serral is far better than him. indeed | ||
Gurbak
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MASTERCAKES
United States127 Posts
On April 07 2018 04:56 Gurbak wrote: neeb was never good, only lucky ROFL | ||
Fango
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Tyrhanius
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Ej_
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On April 07 2018 04:41 Fango wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 04:32 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:30 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:27 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:25 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:21 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:02 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 03:56 Tyrhanius wrote: Well, neeb isn't really impressive anymore, Serral is far better than him. I don't think so. Neeb outplayed Serral at Katowice then Serral stomped him in WeSG. When you factor in that ZvP is zerg favoured as well it's quite close between them. he outplayed serral at Katowice by losing? Winning the game until technical issues result in you losing an entire army still counts as outplaying in my eyes. He should have won that series 2-1. ah right cause it always affects only one player Neeb was the one who lost his army because of it. Maybe it effected Serral as well, sure, but it didn't literally make him lose the game from a winning position. Neeb was winning until that happened, hence why I say while Serral technically won the series, Neeb was better in terms of performance. and he sure showed it by outplaying the rest of his group as did serral The rest of the group was either pure zerg (Serral's best MU), or Zest (who can't play PvZ) so it's really not suprising. It's not like Neeb did that badly either, if not for the technical issues vs Serral he would've gotten out the group. Nerchio outplayed that group, but he had to play his weakest matchup and zvz vs rogue and serral :/ | ||
sneakyfox
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Fango
United Kingdom8808 Posts
On April 07 2018 05:05 Ej_ wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 04:41 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:32 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:30 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:27 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:25 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:21 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:02 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 03:56 Tyrhanius wrote: Well, neeb isn't really impressive anymore, Serral is far better than him. I don't think so. Neeb outplayed Serral at Katowice then Serral stomped him in WeSG. When you factor in that ZvP is zerg favoured as well it's quite close between them. he outplayed serral at Katowice by losing? Winning the game until technical issues result in you losing an entire army still counts as outplaying in my eyes. He should have won that series 2-1. ah right cause it always affects only one player Neeb was the one who lost his army because of it. Maybe it effected Serral as well, sure, but it didn't literally make him lose the game from a winning position. Neeb was winning until that happened, hence why I say while Serral technically won the series, Neeb was better in terms of performance. and he sure showed it by outplaying the rest of his group as did serral The rest of the group was either pure zerg (Serral's best MU), or Zest (who can't play PvZ) so it's really not suprising. It's not like Neeb did that badly either, if not for the technical issues vs Serral he would've gotten out the group. Nerchio outplayed that group, but he had to play his weakest matchup and zvz vs rogue and serral :/ I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here. I'm just saying the performances of Neeb and Serral weren't that far apart despite the score indicating otherwise. Nerchio got stomped by most of the players iirc. Neeb would have beaten Serral and gotten out the group if not for technical issues, which has nothing to do with skill. | ||
Ej_
47656 Posts
On April 07 2018 05:12 Fango wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 05:05 Ej_ wrote: On April 07 2018 04:41 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:32 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:30 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:27 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:25 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:21 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:02 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 03:56 Tyrhanius wrote: Well, neeb isn't really impressive anymore, Serral is far better than him. I don't think so. Neeb outplayed Serral at Katowice then Serral stomped him in WeSG. When you factor in that ZvP is zerg favoured as well it's quite close between them. he outplayed serral at Katowice by losing? Winning the game until technical issues result in you losing an entire army still counts as outplaying in my eyes. He should have won that series 2-1. ah right cause it always affects only one player Neeb was the one who lost his army because of it. Maybe it effected Serral as well, sure, but it didn't literally make him lose the game from a winning position. Neeb was winning until that happened, hence why I say while Serral technically won the series, Neeb was better in terms of performance. and he sure showed it by outplaying the rest of his group as did serral The rest of the group was either pure zerg (Serral's best MU), or Zest (who can't play PvZ) so it's really not suprising. It's not like Neeb did that badly either, if not for the technical issues vs Serral he would've gotten out the group. Nerchio outplayed that group, but he had to play his weakest matchup and zvz vs rogue and serral :/ I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here. I'm just saying the performances of Neeb and Serral weren't that far apart despite the score indicating otherwise. Nerchio got stomped by most of the players iirc. Neeb would have beaten Serral and gotten out the group if not for technical issues, which has nothing to do with skill. Nerchio had a very close series vs Neeb if not for 1 bad decision in game 3 :/ Artur got robbed by format. Truly he showed excellent form. He also would've won vs rogue if not for obvious randomness in zvz which has nothing to do with skill | ||
Tyrhanius
France947 Posts
Charge must be delayed, you can't have such an upgrade that turn zealots into beasts that just cost 100/100 and come this early. | ||
D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On April 07 2018 04:02 Fango wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 03:56 Tyrhanius wrote: Well, neeb isn't really impressive anymore, Serral is far better than him. I don't think so. Neeb outplayed Serral at Katowice then Serral stomped him in WeSG. When you factor in that ZvP is zerg favoured as well it's quite close between them. 1v1 against each other they are pretty close, but in the overall picture Serral has been doing way better in the recent past. | ||
HolydaKing
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Lorning
Belgica34430 Posts
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Lorning
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Poopi
France12468 Posts
Did avilo whine? | ||
HolydaKing
21225 Posts
On April 07 2018 05:53 Poopi wrote: Why is Neeb suddenly shit bad ? Too much money ? Did avilo whine? He only left the game without GG, I think. | ||
Lorning
Belgica34430 Posts
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MASTERCAKES
United States127 Posts
On April 07 2018 05:34 Tyrhanius wrote: Well with this double upgrade nerf for hydras, it becomes ridiculous, the charge come too soon and storm finish before the upgrades finish. Charge must be delayed, you can't have such an upgrade that turn zealots into beasts that just cost 100/100 and come this early. The matchup is fairly even. If anything it slightly favors Z... | ||
HolydaKing
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Musicus
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pvsnp
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HolydaKing
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DBooN
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On April 07 2018 06:23 DBooN wrote: Why can't TLO win games anymore? Losing to Rotterdam broke him. | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On April 07 2018 06:23 DBooN wrote: Why can't TLO win games anymore? He's never made it past Neeb, he doesn't know what to do anymore | ||
HolydaKing
21225 Posts
On April 07 2018 06:23 DBooN wrote: Why can't TLO win games anymore? He hasn't won anything in ages, comparable to Demuslim I guess. Lambo would be the 2nd/3rd best German I would think. He was close to win still, he just forgot to upgrade armour. | ||
Lorning
Belgica34430 Posts
On April 07 2018 06:23 DBooN wrote: Why can't TLO win games anymore? Do you want the truth? | ||
Mun_Su
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DBooN
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Musicus
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Thank god it worked out in the end. GG wp boys, hopefully Dario gets to close out some games in the quarter finals. He is so close every time. | ||
HolydaKing
21225 Posts
On April 07 2018 06:45 DBooN wrote: Interesting way to play this game, leaving the whole map to namshar and then killing him. Wasn't really what he was trying. He failed to finish him off, he was very close to doing it. Losing the prism changed the game completely. | ||
BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
Congrats team Sweden for a great tourney overall! Well done Namshar in particular! Proud of you! | ||
DBooN
Germany2701 Posts
On April 07 2018 06:47 HolydaKing wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 06:45 DBooN wrote: Interesting way to play this game, leaving the whole map to namshar and then killing him. Wasn't really what he was trying. He failed to finish him off, he was very close to doing it. Losing the prism changed the game completely. Sure, but it's still how he played it out in the end. | ||
Penev
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Socke
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Musicus
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"Thanks for watching guys, I hope you enjoyed the games. I know it didn't go as planned and we all hoped for even better results but we still made it. We'll make sure to do better in the coming matches and play with more confidence in the quarter finals to make sure we win." Something like that On April 07 2018 06:56 Socke wrote: 200iq aimed for 2nd in group to dodge korea in ro8, good job. exactly! | ||
Gurbak
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Rob-Zero
Germany438 Posts
On April 07 2018 06:56 Socke wrote: 200iq aimed for 2nd in group to dodge korea in ro8, good job. Dem germans, always lookin´ at the big picture. | ||
BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On April 07 2018 07:04 Gurbak wrote: kinder surprise time Yeah! :D | ||
Boggyb
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On April 07 2018 06:37 Lorning wrote: Do you want the truth? Unless you're sOs, being called creative likely means you're just bad? | ||
Musicus
Germany23567 Posts
Don't you fuck over Germany! Edit: Serral and then Korea, are you kidding :/. | ||
Inflicted
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Inflicted
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On April 05 2018 07:22 Inflicted wrote: Can't wait for the Mexico vs Brazil rigging Of course | ||
Nakajin
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Gurbak
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Penev
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BaneRiders
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D-light
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mierin
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HsDLTitich
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HolydaKing
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On April 07 2018 07:11 D-light wrote: Pretty tough bracket for Finland, but at least no Korea in the quarterfinals yet. Should be Serral all kill without much trouble tbh. | ||
pvsnp
7676 Posts
On April 07 2018 07:28 Mun_Su wrote: Wanted to see Kelazur and Special, the top south american terrans, against all these foreign protoss and zerg... and now they have to go against each other =/ Do you not watch WCS events or something? | ||
FrkFrJss
Canada1205 Posts
On April 07 2018 07:52 pvsnp wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 07:28 Mun_Su wrote: Wanted to see Kelazur and Special, the top south american terrans, against all these foreign protoss and zerg... and now they have to go against each other =/ Do you not watch WCS events or something? I remember Neeb facing Kelazhur and Special all the time last year. | ||
AzAlexZ
Australia3302 Posts
On April 07 2018 05:12 Fango wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 05:05 Ej_ wrote: On April 07 2018 04:41 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:32 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:30 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:27 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:25 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:21 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:02 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 03:56 Tyrhanius wrote: Well, neeb isn't really impressive anymore, Serral is far better than him. I don't think so. Neeb outplayed Serral at Katowice then Serral stomped him in WeSG. When you factor in that ZvP is zerg favoured as well it's quite close between them. he outplayed serral at Katowice by losing? Winning the game until technical issues result in you losing an entire army still counts as outplaying in my eyes. He should have won that series 2-1. ah right cause it always affects only one player Neeb was the one who lost his army because of it. Maybe it effected Serral as well, sure, but it didn't literally make him lose the game from a winning position. Neeb was winning until that happened, hence why I say while Serral technically won the series, Neeb was better in terms of performance. and he sure showed it by outplaying the rest of his group as did serral The rest of the group was either pure zerg (Serral's best MU), or Zest (who can't play PvZ) so it's really not suprising. It's not like Neeb did that badly either, if not for the technical issues vs Serral he would've gotten out the group. Nerchio outplayed that group, but he had to play his weakest matchup and zvz vs rogue and serral :/ I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here. I'm just saying the performances of Neeb and Serral weren't that far apart despite the score indicating otherwise. Nerchio got stomped by most of the players iirc. Neeb would have beaten Serral and gotten out the group if not for technical issues, which has nothing to do with skill. Neeb vs Serral was a joke for Neeb, he stomped Serral game 1, but threw game 2 and 3, I'm a Neeb fan but after rewatching the VODs for game 2 and 3 he did not deserve that win at all, lag or not. He could've won 2-0, but he fuking threw game 2, and that's on him | ||
Fango
United Kingdom8808 Posts
On April 07 2018 09:16 AzAlexZ wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 05:12 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 05:05 Ej_ wrote: On April 07 2018 04:41 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:32 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:30 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:27 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:25 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:21 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:02 Fango wrote: [quote] I don't think so. Neeb outplayed Serral at Katowice then Serral stomped him in WeSG. When you factor in that ZvP is zerg favoured as well it's quite close between them. he outplayed serral at Katowice by losing? Winning the game until technical issues result in you losing an entire army still counts as outplaying in my eyes. He should have won that series 2-1. ah right cause it always affects only one player Neeb was the one who lost his army because of it. Maybe it effected Serral as well, sure, but it didn't literally make him lose the game from a winning position. Neeb was winning until that happened, hence why I say while Serral technically won the series, Neeb was better in terms of performance. and he sure showed it by outplaying the rest of his group as did serral The rest of the group was either pure zerg (Serral's best MU), or Zest (who can't play PvZ) so it's really not suprising. It's not like Neeb did that badly either, if not for the technical issues vs Serral he would've gotten out the group. Nerchio outplayed that group, but he had to play his weakest matchup and zvz vs rogue and serral :/ I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here. I'm just saying the performances of Neeb and Serral weren't that far apart despite the score indicating otherwise. Nerchio got stomped by most of the players iirc. Neeb would have beaten Serral and gotten out the group if not for technical issues, which has nothing to do with skill. Neeb vs Serral was a joke for Neeb, he stomped Serral game 1, but threw game 2 and 3, I'm a Neeb fan but after rewatching the VODs for game 2 and 3 he did not deserve that win at all, lag or not. He could've won 2-0, but he fuking threw game 2, and that's on him I didn't see games 1 or 2 (at the event they only showed game 3 on the main stage), but Neeb was certainly winning that last map. The observer lagging out cost him a group of immortals and the recall timer, which he had ready to use on his main army. His army then got surrounded and died as a result. If the lag never happened Neeb was on track to win the series 2-1. That's why I say in terms of actual performance he really was outdoing Serral that game. | ||
11cc
Finland561 Posts
On April 07 2018 09:22 Fango wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 09:16 AzAlexZ wrote: On April 07 2018 05:12 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 05:05 Ej_ wrote: On April 07 2018 04:41 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:32 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:30 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:27 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:25 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:21 ArtyK wrote: [quote] he outplayed serral at Katowice by losing? Winning the game until technical issues result in you losing an entire army still counts as outplaying in my eyes. He should have won that series 2-1. ah right cause it always affects only one player Neeb was the one who lost his army because of it. Maybe it effected Serral as well, sure, but it didn't literally make him lose the game from a winning position. Neeb was winning until that happened, hence why I say while Serral technically won the series, Neeb was better in terms of performance. and he sure showed it by outplaying the rest of his group as did serral The rest of the group was either pure zerg (Serral's best MU), or Zest (who can't play PvZ) so it's really not suprising. It's not like Neeb did that badly either, if not for the technical issues vs Serral he would've gotten out the group. Nerchio outplayed that group, but he had to play his weakest matchup and zvz vs rogue and serral :/ I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here. I'm just saying the performances of Neeb and Serral weren't that far apart despite the score indicating otherwise. Nerchio got stomped by most of the players iirc. Neeb would have beaten Serral and gotten out the group if not for technical issues, which has nothing to do with skill. Neeb vs Serral was a joke for Neeb, he stomped Serral game 1, but threw game 2 and 3, I'm a Neeb fan but after rewatching the VODs for game 2 and 3 he did not deserve that win at all, lag or not. He could've won 2-0, but he fuking threw game 2, and that's on him I didn't see games 1 or 2 (at the event they only showed game 3 on the main stage), but Neeb was certainly winning that last map. The observer lagging out cost him a group of immortals and the recall timer, which he had ready to use on his main army. His army then got surrounded and died as a result. If the lag never happened Neeb was on track to win the series 2-1. That's why I say in terms of actual performance he really was outdoing Serral that game. Wasn't it a lag screen like normal? The game didn't just skip forward 20 seconds without neeb being able to control his army, right? I guess he just forgot about the immortals during the lag. | ||
Ej_
47656 Posts
On April 07 2018 09:22 Fango wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 09:16 AzAlexZ wrote: On April 07 2018 05:12 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 05:05 Ej_ wrote: On April 07 2018 04:41 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:32 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:30 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:27 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:25 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:21 ArtyK wrote: [quote] he outplayed serral at Katowice by losing? Winning the game until technical issues result in you losing an entire army still counts as outplaying in my eyes. He should have won that series 2-1. ah right cause it always affects only one player Neeb was the one who lost his army because of it. Maybe it effected Serral as well, sure, but it didn't literally make him lose the game from a winning position. Neeb was winning until that happened, hence why I say while Serral technically won the series, Neeb was better in terms of performance. and he sure showed it by outplaying the rest of his group as did serral The rest of the group was either pure zerg (Serral's best MU), or Zest (who can't play PvZ) so it's really not suprising. It's not like Neeb did that badly either, if not for the technical issues vs Serral he would've gotten out the group. Nerchio outplayed that group, but he had to play his weakest matchup and zvz vs rogue and serral :/ I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here. I'm just saying the performances of Neeb and Serral weren't that far apart despite the score indicating otherwise. Nerchio got stomped by most of the players iirc. Neeb would have beaten Serral and gotten out the group if not for technical issues, which has nothing to do with skill. Neeb vs Serral was a joke for Neeb, he stomped Serral game 1, but threw game 2 and 3, I'm a Neeb fan but after rewatching the VODs for game 2 and 3 he did not deserve that win at all, lag or not. He could've won 2-0, but he fuking threw game 2, and that's on him I didn't see games 1 or 2 (at the event they only showed game 3 on the main stage), but Neeb was certainly winning that last map. The observer lagging out cost him a group of immortals and the recall timer, which he had ready to use on his main army. His army then got surrounded and died as a result. If the lag never happened Neeb was on track to win the series 2-1. That's why I say in terms of actual performance he really was outdoing Serral that game. I didn't see the series, but Neeb totally outplayed Serral in that one game he lost. - said the interdimensional traveller from Earth 2715.87, where Neeb beat Serral and made Katowice 2018 playoffs. | ||
SCMasterGoD
4 Posts
On April 07 2018 14:13 Ej_ wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 09:22 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 09:16 AzAlexZ wrote: On April 07 2018 05:12 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 05:05 Ej_ wrote: On April 07 2018 04:41 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:32 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:30 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:27 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:25 Fango wrote: [quote] Winning the game until technical issues result in you losing an entire army still counts as outplaying in my eyes. He should have won that series 2-1. ah right cause it always affects only one player Neeb was the one who lost his army because of it. Maybe it effected Serral as well, sure, but it didn't literally make him lose the game from a winning position. Neeb was winning until that happened, hence why I say while Serral technically won the series, Neeb was better in terms of performance. and he sure showed it by outplaying the rest of his group as did serral The rest of the group was either pure zerg (Serral's best MU), or Zest (who can't play PvZ) so it's really not suprising. It's not like Neeb did that badly either, if not for the technical issues vs Serral he would've gotten out the group. Nerchio outplayed that group, but he had to play his weakest matchup and zvz vs rogue and serral :/ I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here. I'm just saying the performances of Neeb and Serral weren't that far apart despite the score indicating otherwise. Nerchio got stomped by most of the players iirc. Neeb would have beaten Serral and gotten out the group if not for technical issues, which has nothing to do with skill. Neeb vs Serral was a joke for Neeb, he stomped Serral game 1, but threw game 2 and 3, I'm a Neeb fan but after rewatching the VODs for game 2 and 3 he did not deserve that win at all, lag or not. He could've won 2-0, but he fuking threw game 2, and that's on him I didn't see games 1 or 2 (at the event they only showed game 3 on the main stage), but Neeb was certainly winning that last map. The observer lagging out cost him a group of immortals and the recall timer, which he had ready to use on his main army. His army then got surrounded and died as a result. If the lag never happened Neeb was on track to win the series 2-1. That's why I say in terms of actual performance he really was outdoing Serral that game. I didn't see the series, but Neeb totally outplayed Serral in that one game he lost. - said the interdimensional traveller from Earth 2715.87, where Neeb beat Serral and made Katowice 2018 playoffs. Which is why hes talking about the game he saw..and he's completely right. Obs should pause the game after someone drops off like that. | ||
juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
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On April 07 2018 09:22 Fango wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2018 09:16 AzAlexZ wrote: On April 07 2018 05:12 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 05:05 Ej_ wrote: On April 07 2018 04:41 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:32 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:30 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:27 ArtyK wrote: On April 07 2018 04:25 Fango wrote: On April 07 2018 04:21 ArtyK wrote: [quote] he outplayed serral at Katowice by losing? Winning the game until technical issues result in you losing an entire army still counts as outplaying in my eyes. He should have won that series 2-1. ah right cause it always affects only one player Neeb was the one who lost his army because of it. Maybe it effected Serral as well, sure, but it didn't literally make him lose the game from a winning position. Neeb was winning until that happened, hence why I say while Serral technically won the series, Neeb was better in terms of performance. and he sure showed it by outplaying the rest of his group as did serral The rest of the group was either pure zerg (Serral's best MU), or Zest (who can't play PvZ) so it's really not suprising. It's not like Neeb did that badly either, if not for the technical issues vs Serral he would've gotten out the group. Nerchio outplayed that group, but he had to play his weakest matchup and zvz vs rogue and serral :/ I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here. I'm just saying the performances of Neeb and Serral weren't that far apart despite the score indicating otherwise. Nerchio got stomped by most of the players iirc. Neeb would have beaten Serral and gotten out the group if not for technical issues, which has nothing to do with skill. Neeb vs Serral was a joke for Neeb, he stomped Serral game 1, but threw game 2 and 3, I'm a Neeb fan but after rewatching the VODs for game 2 and 3 he did not deserve that win at all, lag or not. He could've won 2-0, but he fuking threw game 2, and that's on him I didn't see games 1 or 2 (at the event they only showed game 3 on the main stage), but Neeb was certainly winning that last map. The observer lagging out cost him a group of immortals and the recall timer, which he had ready to use on his main army. His army then got surrounded and died as a result. If the lag never happened Neeb was on track to win the series 2-1. That's why I say in terms of actual performance he really was outdoing Serral that game. And after using the recall I guess he should've retreated with his main army the second he did that instead of 8 seconds later. | ||
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