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Zeal's strategy is so weird.
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INcontroL and Nathanias are national treasures.
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Oh shit I thought this started now so I missed two hours.Go Canadian players
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That was... a game. I think.
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How long is this game gonna last with Noregret at half the supply?
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I think Kane is Abel to beat MaSa.
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Murican? Nathanias, both of them are Canadian...
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On June 14 2018 05:39 Boggyb wrote: I think Kane is Abel to beat MaSa.
Is he though?
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On June 14 2018 05:52 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:Is he though? He probably won't but he definitely is able to. He made some correctable mistakes.
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Pushing in there before the vipers had energy for blinding clouds was a pretty big mistake.
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Dang it, the American got through the Canadian group of death? We shoulda had higher tariffs...
+ Show Spoiler +
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The betting odds on Match 1 True vs Future look very suspicious, even money on True winning. Sometimes these are just bets to fake out the bookie but let's see...
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NA Starcraft and Nathanias + INcontroL casting. Is there a better combination?
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On June 15 2018 02:18 Greenei wrote: The betting odds on Match 1 True vs Future look very suspicious, even money on True winning. Sometimes these are just bets to fake out the bookie but let's see... That was a very, very, very odd game.
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Move commanding your ling bane army against a sieged army you're well aware of?
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Baneling good unit
On June 15 2018 03:10 Boggyb wrote: Move commanding your ling bane army against a sieged army you're well aware of?
No losing that last game
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TRUE will probably win this group, but I wasn't super impressed with his play against Future. Maybe his ZvT is just bad at the moment.
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I hope the trolls never get to Geoff. His casting is a gem and I'd hate to see it change
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On June 15 2018 04:28 chipmonklord17 wrote: I hope the trolls never get to Geoff. His casting is a gem and I'd hate to see it change INcontroL isn't going to change unless Blizzard tells him he has to if he wants to continue getting casts and I can't see that happening unless he goes way too far on a joke.
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The NAest way to lose that game 2
Good shit by puck overall though, can't argue with first
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I love puCK but I'm not sure TRUE should ever lose to him.
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Nathanias just compared Future and Cicada to Yamcha. That's cold.
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That's downright offensive. No one should ever have to be Yamcha
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Masa what have you started
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Scarlett tilts so hard against 2 rax
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The winrate of 2rax/3rax vs zerg in tournaments has to be absolutely insane. I never see this strategy lose.
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On June 17 2018 04:30 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: The winrate of 2rax/3rax vs zerg in tournaments has to be absolutely insane. I never see this strategy lose. time to rename it to shitty marine build
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should have done the shitty marine build again
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On June 17 2018 04:30 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: The winrate of 2rax/3rax vs zerg in tournaments has to be absolutely insane. I never see this strategy lose.
Yeah I was wondering about this, it seems actually stronger than in the past. Is it that the fast economy of LOTV makes it quicker to set up an effective rush relative to the defense, and you don't have a fast enough scouting timing that's reliable?
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On June 17 2018 05:06 LordYama wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2018 04:30 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: The winrate of 2rax/3rax vs zerg in tournaments has to be absolutely insane. I never see this strategy lose. Yeah I was wondering about this, it seems actually stronger than in the past. Is it that the fast economy of LOTV makes it quicker to set up an effective rush relative to the defense, and you don't have a fast enough scouting timing that's reliable? oh boy
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Does EMP reveal burrowed Zerg units?
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I feel like during WCS NA even Twitch chat gets more stupid.
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On June 17 2018 05:28 DBooN wrote: Does EMP reveal burrowed Zerg units? not to my knowledge
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These games really show you how good Terrans have to be to fight with Bio vs Banelings.
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Haha incontrol + rotti best combo, i love them!
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Epic is attempting to channel Maru's game 1 against Classic.
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If Neeb weren't a billion miles ahead, that fight would have lost him the game. That was atrocious.
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worst gameplay i've seen from neeb in 2ish years
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Looks like NA terrans can beat Neeb without proxying barracks after all.
edit: I feel like the marauder buff has to have inflicted psychological damage to all the Protosses habituated to easy wins...
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Neeb has been really terrible with storms and spells this game, but otherwise he's been playing reasonably well. That was good army and liberator control from Epic to make it this close
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On June 18 2018 03:05 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Looks like NA terrans can beat Neeb without proxying barracks after all.
edit: I feel like the marauder buff has to have inflicted psychological damage to all the Protosses habituated to easy wins... The change has seen a ~10% swing in PvT win rates.
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On June 18 2018 03:41 Boggyb wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2018 03:05 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Looks like NA terrans can beat Neeb without proxying barracks after all.
edit: I feel like the marauder buff has to have inflicted psychological damage to all the Protosses habituated to easy wins... The change has seen a ~10% swing in PvT win rates.
The map pool change also helped a bit.
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I'm not sure fast Colossi is a great move in a world with Marauders being as strong as they are but I guess not all Terran players are Maru and capable of beating Colossi with Marauders.
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Neeb is 17-0 in series against JonSnow after swapping to Protoss. Now that Rotti mentioned that, he's basically doomed.
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On June 18 2018 03:41 Boggyb wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2018 03:05 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Looks like NA terrans can beat Neeb without proxying barracks after all.
edit: I feel like the marauder buff has to have inflicted psychological damage to all the Protosses habituated to easy wins... The change has seen a ~10% swing in PvT win rates. We'll probably see a 45% PvT or lower for a while until Protoss adapts in a couple months. Every big change takes Protoss the longest to adapt.
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I thought the reason he was called 'Neeblet' at that Blizzcon was because his account was called 'Neeblet', production wanted the display name and the in-game name to match, and Neeb really doesn't care about his id, so he just went with Neeblet.
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On June 18 2018 04:48 FrkFrJss wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2018 03:41 Boggyb wrote:On June 18 2018 03:05 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Looks like NA terrans can beat Neeb without proxying barracks after all.
edit: I feel like the marauder buff has to have inflicted psychological damage to all the Protosses habituated to easy wins... The change has seen a ~10% swing in PvT win rates. We'll probably see a 45% PvT or lower for a while until Protoss adapts in a couple months. Every big change takes Protoss the longest to adapt. Because the other races complain rather than trying to adapt and Blizzard rewards them?
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On June 18 2018 04:46 Boggyb wrote: Neeb is 17-0 in series against JonSnow after swapping to Protoss. Now that Rotti mentioned that, he's basically doomed. Game 1 makes me think the caster curse might be celebrating Father's Day rather than working.
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On June 18 2018 04:50 Boggyb wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2018 04:48 FrkFrJss wrote:On June 18 2018 03:41 Boggyb wrote:On June 18 2018 03:05 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Looks like NA terrans can beat Neeb without proxying barracks after all.
edit: I feel like the marauder buff has to have inflicted psychological damage to all the Protosses habituated to easy wins... The change has seen a ~10% swing in PvT win rates. We'll probably see a 45% PvT or lower for a while until Protoss adapts in a couple months. Every big change takes Protoss the longest to adapt. Because the other races complain rather than trying to adapt and Blizzard rewards them?
Exactly--Protoss players aren't as skilled (at whining) as the other races, so they don't deserve Blizzard's help.
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Thundershaft is definitely the best name for Neeb
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JonSnow is about to get Thundershafted.
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On June 18 2018 04:50 Boggyb wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2018 04:48 FrkFrJss wrote:On June 18 2018 03:41 Boggyb wrote:On June 18 2018 03:05 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Looks like NA terrans can beat Neeb without proxying barracks after all.
edit: I feel like the marauder buff has to have inflicted psychological damage to all the Protosses habituated to easy wins... The change has seen a ~10% swing in PvT win rates. We'll probably see a 45% PvT or lower for a while until Protoss adapts in a couple months. Every big change takes Protoss the longest to adapt. Because the other races complain rather than trying to adapt and Blizzard rewards them? No, because Protoss tends to be the most inflexible towards change, and any big change drops the winrates. Then about five months later, they're op again.
EDIT: Widowmine drops in mid-2014 to late 2015 are a good example. P would flat out lose to drops, and then by mistake-2015, wm drops were not very effective.
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Mutas beating Neeb in 2018, what a world
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On June 25 2018 03:19 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Mutas beating Neeb in 2018, what a world Tribute to ByuL :O
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If Silky had build only 3 Brood Lords instead of 12 this might have all gone much better.
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I'm glad I haven't seen a game like that in a while.
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Wutthefuq. Uhm. GG Silky? XD
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Aligulac had Silky for 2% against Neeb
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Cool games by Soulkey, but who is gonna save us from the ZvZs now?
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On June 25 2018 04:19 DBooN wrote: Cool games by Soulkey, but who is gonna save us from the ZvZs now? The winrate of 2rax/3rax vs zerg in tournaments has to be absolutely insane. I never see this strategy lose.
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On June 25 2018 04:20 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2018 04:19 DBooN wrote: Cool games by Soulkey, but who is gonna save us from the ZvZs now? The winrate of 2rax/3rax vs zerg in tournaments has to be absolutely insane. I never see this strategy lose. I'm not sure if I want that kind of savior...
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I dont know why he canonrushed
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Silky, what a man.
What a waifu.
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On June 25 2018 04:22 intotheheart wrote: Silky, what a man.
What a waifu. I think the term is husbando. For optimal cringe.
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On June 25 2018 04:23 Elentos wrote:I think the term is husbando. For optimal cringe. I like to think waifu is a neutral description.
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On June 25 2018 04:24 intotheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2018 04:23 Elentos wrote:On June 25 2018 04:22 intotheheart wrote: Silky, what a man.
What a waifu. I think the term is husbando. For optimal cringe. I like to think waifu is a neutral description. Is wife a neutral word?
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On June 25 2018 04:21 DieuCure wrote: I dont know why he canonrushed Playing from Korea, maybe it's a ping thing? I think on the Pylon show, Drogo said Neeb's been practicing it a lot. Maybe Silky knew all this though
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On June 25 2018 04:25 DBooN wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2018 04:24 intotheheart wrote:On June 25 2018 04:23 Elentos wrote:On June 25 2018 04:22 intotheheart wrote: Silky, what a man.
What a waifu. I think the term is husbando. For optimal cringe. I like to think waifu is a neutral description. Is wife a neutral word? No, but waifu tends to describe things that aren't real anyway, so does it matter?
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On June 25 2018 04:25 intotheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2018 04:25 DBooN wrote:On June 25 2018 04:24 intotheheart wrote:On June 25 2018 04:23 Elentos wrote:On June 25 2018 04:22 intotheheart wrote: Silky, what a man.
What a waifu. I think the term is husbando. For optimal cringe. I like to think waifu is a neutral description. Is wife a neutral word? No, but waifu tends to describe things that aren't real anyway, so does it matter? SHES REAL TO ME DAMN IT
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Wow Neeb is slumping hard. I've never heard of Silky before
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On June 25 2018 04:26 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2018 04:25 intotheheart wrote:On June 25 2018 04:25 DBooN wrote:On June 25 2018 04:24 intotheheart wrote:On June 25 2018 04:23 Elentos wrote:On June 25 2018 04:22 intotheheart wrote: Silky, what a man.
What a waifu. I think the term is husbando. For optimal cringe. I like to think waifu is a neutral description. Is wife a neutral word? No, but waifu tends to describe things that aren't real anyway, so does it matter? SHES REAL TO ME DAMN IT Maybe your feelings are real to you, and maybe that's good enough.
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Fact: Every time a foreigner makes Code S they begin to slump in WCS.
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On June 25 2018 04:25 intotheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2018 04:25 DBooN wrote:On June 25 2018 04:24 intotheheart wrote:On June 25 2018 04:23 Elentos wrote:On June 25 2018 04:22 intotheheart wrote: Silky, what a man.
What a waifu. I think the term is husbando. For optimal cringe. I like to think waifu is a neutral description. Is wife a neutral word? No, but waifu tends to describe things that aren't real anyway, so does it matter? Anime is real!
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On June 25 2018 04:25 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Playing from Korea, maybe it's a ping thing? I think on the Pylon show, Drogo said Neeb's been practicing it a lot. Maybe Silky knew all this though Silky is from California though, I can't imagine the ping is that awful. They didn't look as many levels apart as they should. Neeb looked like he was playing from EU honestly.
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On June 25 2018 04:27 DBooN wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2018 04:25 intotheheart wrote:On June 25 2018 04:25 DBooN wrote:On June 25 2018 04:24 intotheheart wrote:On June 25 2018 04:23 Elentos wrote:On June 25 2018 04:22 intotheheart wrote: Silky, what a man.
What a waifu. I think the term is husbando. For optimal cringe. I like to think waifu is a neutral description. Is wife a neutral word? No, but waifu tends to describe things that aren't real anyway, so does it matter? Anime is real! Correct, but the waifus we all know/love/talk about/daydream about aren't.
It's just how it is, folks. Maybe one day, they'll be real. But that leads to another sad question: if cat girl were real, wouldn't they just reject me like normal women anyway?
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On June 25 2018 04:28 intotheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2018 04:27 DBooN wrote:On June 25 2018 04:25 intotheheart wrote:On June 25 2018 04:25 DBooN wrote:On June 25 2018 04:24 intotheheart wrote:On June 25 2018 04:23 Elentos wrote:On June 25 2018 04:22 intotheheart wrote: Silky, what a man.
What a waifu. I think the term is husbando. For optimal cringe. I like to think waifu is a neutral description. Is wife a neutral word? No, but waifu tends to describe things that aren't real anyway, so does it matter? Anime is real! Correct, but the waifus we all know/love/talk about/daydream about aren't. It's just how it is, folks. Maybe one day, they'll be real. But that leads to another sad question: if cat girl were real, wouldn't they just reject me like normal women anyway? How can my waifu not be real when anime is?!
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On June 25 2018 04:29 DBooN wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2018 04:28 intotheheart wrote:On June 25 2018 04:27 DBooN wrote:On June 25 2018 04:25 intotheheart wrote:On June 25 2018 04:25 DBooN wrote:On June 25 2018 04:24 intotheheart wrote:On June 25 2018 04:23 Elentos wrote:On June 25 2018 04:22 intotheheart wrote: Silky, what a man.
What a waifu. I think the term is husbando. For optimal cringe. I like to think waifu is a neutral description. Is wife a neutral word? No, but waifu tends to describe things that aren't real anyway, so does it matter? Anime is real! Correct, but the waifus we all know/love/talk about/daydream about aren't. It's just how it is, folks. Maybe one day, they'll be real. But that leads to another sad question: if cat girl were real, wouldn't they just reject me like normal women anyway? How can my waifu not be real when anime is?! Who knows, man. You'll find her in your heart. And that's all that really counts. :X
I hope, anyway. Because that's all we'll get.
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On June 25 2018 04:25 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Playing from Korea, maybe it's a ping thing? I think on the Pylon show, Drogo said Neeb's been practicing it a lot. Maybe Silky knew all this though
Ah ok, thank you.
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I will say, it's probably for the better that he's stopped doing it, but puCK was more fun to watch when he made disruptors every game.
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we are all silky on this blessed day
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Silky is from California though, I can't imagine the ping is that awful. They didn't look as many levels apart as they should. Neeb looked like he was playing from EU honestly.
playing from EU on NA is not really bad Korea Eu is really terrible but you can ladder and play on NA without problems so I would gueass NA to Neeb should be the same
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So... what happened to Neeb?
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On June 25 2018 05:30 ZigguratOfUr wrote: So... what happened to Neeb? He only practiced cannon rushing.
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Having a Copa America recap during WCS NA coverage is pretty neat.
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Fast game? I somehow missed it
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On June 25 2018 05:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Fast game? I somehow missed it
Roach rush vs twilight opening.
And playing from China is real rough--I was in China a few weeks ago, and latency + Great Firewall isn't fun.
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41 Ping? Literally unplayable
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Why do we have the 1080p technology for qualifier but not for the main tournament ?
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How are you supposed to even defend that? If you send out the reaper, you risk your CC being super delayed or even cancelled. If you keep it at home, you are playing completely blind.
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On June 25 2018 07:02 Boggyb wrote: How are you supposed to even defend that? If you send out the reaper, you risk your CC being super delayed or even cancelled. If you keep it at home, you are playing completely blind.
Proxy rax. The winrate of 2rax/3rax vs zerg in tournaments has to be absolutely insane. I never see this strategy lose.
Jokes aside I think you can keep the reaper home for a little, until the first hellion is almost done and then scout things early enough so that you can replace hellions 4 and 5 with cyclones and hold. Of course there's tradeoffs with that, and other all-ins that hit faster.
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Are we sure Masa isn't the one playing with 340 ping?
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MaSa please. How do you even manage to get into such a mediocre position on Dreamcatcher as terran.
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Literally the first thing TRUE does on hive is getting adrenal glands :D
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How were the first 2 games? Worth watching? I only caught the last one =/
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puCK on point today. Could definitely see him winning this all
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Blowing up the spine from across the mineral line is pretty sick.
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I just went to make a tea and its over.
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On June 25 2018 08:45 Aunvilgodess wrote: I just went to make a tea and its over. With the way Scarlett has been playing ZvZ lately, if you look away for 5 seconds, it could be game over.
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I'm going to categorize that one under "throw"
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Now that was an Idra gg timing
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On June 25 2018 08:54 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I'm going to categorize that one under "throw" Up a dozen workers and even on army supply (same tech) after the held aggression. Yeah, that's probably a throw.
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TRUE vs puCK. Who would've predicted this?
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On June 25 2018 08:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote: TRUE vs puCK. Who would've predicted this? I'm not sure many people would have predicted it, but I wouldn't have been too surprised if puCK had beaten Neeb due to ping and Neeb's questionable PvP at the moment.
TRUE was always the favorite out of the lower side of the bracket due to ping and Scarlett's questionable ZvZ form.
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Is True... gonna use tech? Against Protoss? Interesting.
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Was any of this recommended?
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How many lings did I miss if I only saw TRUEs first series?
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Can someone explain to me why Scarlett left the last 2 games VS True when was still ahead in supply and bases?
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On June 25 2018 23:03 Devin1 wrote:Can someone explain to me why Scarlett left the last 2 games VS True when was still ahead in supply and bases? She fell far behind in the muta vs muta numbers war and probably wouldn't be able to get her army supply back up in time to prevent taking huge damage. She was also playing from China with 300+ ping and didn't seem to think she could micro her way out of it. That being said it was still a very very fast GG.
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