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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51319 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51319 Posts
Poll: Serral vs KelazhurSerral Wins (70) 93% Kelazhur Wins (5) 7% 75 total votes Your vote: Serral vs Kelazhur (Vote): Serral Wins (Vote): Kelazhur Wins
Poll: Rogue vs INnoVationRogue (46) 61% INnoVation (30) 39% 76 total votes Your vote: Rogue vs INnoVation (Vote): Rogue (Vote): INnoVation
Poll: Neeb vs DarkDark Wins (55) 74% Neeb Wins (19) 26% 74 total votes Your vote: Neeb vs Dark (Vote): Neeb Wins (Vote): Dark Wins
Poll: Classic vs ScarlettClassic Wins (41) 53% Scarlett Wins (37) 47% 78 total votes Your vote: Classic vs Scarlett (Vote): Classic Wins (Vote): Scarlett Wins
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I expect Neeb vs Dark and Rogue vs Inno will be good. The rest I won't keep my hope up. Just hope they won't be too awful like Day 1 games.
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The only one that I see being a close series is Rogue vs. Inno. The rest are likely to br 3-0s or 3-1s. If Neeb pulls it out, I think it's going to be a :-2. Otherwise, Dark, Serral, and Classic/Scarlett will relatively easily win their series (relatively). Scarlett will either bop Classic or will play like foreigner Scarlett and lose 0-3 or 1-3.
Neeb is good, but he seems to have these mental roadblocks periodically, so we'll see where his mental state is at.
I don't really have much confidence in Classic's LAN performance vs Zerg, so I think it depends on which Scarlett shows up.
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I think Scarlett can take Classic.
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Rogue INnoVation is a huge, huge wildcard since nobody knows what kind of form Rogue will bring since he's been pretty up and down all year.
Classic Scarlett is in theory interesting since Classic's PvZ can be questionable but Scarlett won't have time to sit back and figure out what went wrong like Reynor was able to do in GSL and Classic is easily 3 tiers higher than Scarlett as a player. PvZ is reasonably balanced if beyond boring to watch, so there will be no replay of Scarlett cheesing out a much, much, much better player.
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Serral 3-0 INnoVation 3-1 Dark 3-0 Classic 3-0
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Neeb vs Dark is skewed a bit.
I think Neeb has a better chance than that.
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Neeb is going to be crushed completely.
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Only caught Maru vs soO yeaterday but apparently that was the only one worth watching anyhow. Hopefully there will be better series today.
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Zest's loss was a rather interesting display of poor judgment as well as solid defense by Showtime.
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On August 03 2018 07:48 pvsnp wrote: Only caught Maru vs soO yeaterday but apparently that was the only one worth watching anyhow. Hopefully there will be better series today.
Meh, Showtime vs Zest was worth a look even despite Zest's boneheaded play.
Has vs Special g1 was also extremely entertaining
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On August 03 2018 04:28 Vutalisk wrote: I expect Neeb vs Dark and Rogue vs Inno will be good. The rest I won't keep my hope up. Just hope they won't be too awful like Day 1 games.
On August 03 2018 06:31 JabuSeika wrote: Neeb vs Dark is skewed a bit.
I think Neeb has a better chance than that. Did you guys not watch their series in GSL? Dark spanked Neeb. Maybe not on the level of when they met at Blizzcon, but badly.
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Scarlett's chances against classic are much better than neeb's vs dark
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Canada2764 Posts
Serral 3-0 Kelazhur - This is obvious. Kelazhur isn't good this year, and Serral is very good. Kelazhur can maybe take a game (or two.. maybe.) if he gets back to his form last year, but I see no reason for that to happen, and he wasn't particularly good at showing up to international events even last year when his form was better.
Rogue 3-2 INnoVation - Rogue's ZvT is nasty good. I do believe that INno is in much better form than he has been (and the community is still overrating him) and I do think he'll show up to this series playing well, but it's tough to imagine an on-top-of-things Rogue actually losing to someone who isn't Maru in this matchup.
Dark 3-1 Neeb - Their GSL set was not particularly interesting, and I do think Neeb has historically struggled with Korean zergs (you might hate Serral for losing to korean terrans, but Neeb has now lost out of Blizzcon twice, IEM Katowice this year, and nearly GSL quals to korean zergs.) so it's tough to predict him making much of a splash. That being said I'm kind of iffy on Dark and I do think we'll see closer matches than the expectation may dictate. This is going to be our first real korean-foreigner test, and if Neeb does get an upset, it's going to make me very giddy about the potential of the foreign scene. If Neeb gets smacked down like he did in GSL, it's a good indicator that we should hold our horses.
Classic 3-2 Scarlett - Both players in iffy form, but Scarlett way more than Classic. That being said, Scarlett does have a habit of showing up to these things in good form, and Classic did lose to Reynor who I consider to be probably worse than Scarlett in a preparation-heavy setting, so an upset isn't out of the question. Should be a fun set, and a dark horse for most entertaining set of the tournament (although it's going to be tough to pry that away from Maru/soO and, I presume, Rogue/INno).
General thoughts : Good day 1 for the field. Maru suffering while SpeCial and ShoWTimE look to be in good form is a big plus for the entertainment level of this tournament going forward. I liked how soO played, and it's going to be exciting to see him give it one last go in Super Tournament. I put the odds of title championship at 60% for Maru, 30% for other koreans (Rogue and Stats at 7.5%, Classic, INno and Dark at 5%.) and 10% for a foreigner, mainly Serral if Maru does falter out early and the bracket opens up for him.
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On August 03 2018 09:19 Boggyb wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2018 04:28 Vutalisk wrote: I expect Neeb vs Dark and Rogue vs Inno will be good. The rest I won't keep my hope up. Just hope they won't be too awful like Day 1 games. Show nested quote +On August 03 2018 06:31 JabuSeika wrote: Neeb vs Dark is skewed a bit.
I think Neeb has a better chance than that. Did you guys not watch their series in GSL? Dark spanked Neeb. Maybe not on the level of when they met at Blizzcon, but badly. When one game was a build order loss, I don't take too much stock in a single bo3. soO also played horribly in the ro32 and yet was very close to defeating Maru, who, although not as strong in TvZ as his TvP, is still very strong in the matchup.
I agree that Neeb is the underdog, but he's also underperformed at times against Korean Zergs.
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Serral 3 - 1 Kelazur Rogue 3 - 2 INnoVation Dark 3 - 0 Neeb Classic 3 - 1 Scarlett
Rogue vs Inno and Classic vs Scarlett will be the most interesting matchups, although it will be nice to root for Serral to lose in first round at first, I'm pretty sure he will advance. Maybe not, though.
By the way, after hearing Maru's comments about how much he doesn't like playing TvZ currently and seeing soO go up 2-1 against him... I think Rogue is the favorite to win this tournament currently. Maru is the second favorite however!
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Canada2764 Posts
On August 03 2018 11:08 Rodya wrote:Serral 3 - 1 Kelazur Rogue 3 - 2 INnoVationDark 3 - 0 NeebClassic 3 - 1 ScarlettRogue vs Inno and Classic vs Scarlett will be the most interesting matchups, although it will be nice to root for Serral to lose in first round at first, I'm pretty sure he will advance. Maybe not, though. By the way, after hearing Maru's comments about how much he doesn't like playing TvZ currently and seeing soO go up 2-1 against him... I think Rogue is the favorite to win this tournament currently. Maru is the second favorite however! Rogue's path is just way harder, unfortunately. Maru has matches vs ShoWTimE and Stats that he really should win, while Rogue has INnoVation, Serral, and the best of Classic/Dark.
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On August 03 2018 10:39 FrkFrJss wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2018 09:19 Boggyb wrote:On August 03 2018 04:28 Vutalisk wrote: I expect Neeb vs Dark and Rogue vs Inno will be good. The rest I won't keep my hope up. Just hope they won't be too awful like Day 1 games. On August 03 2018 06:31 JabuSeika wrote: Neeb vs Dark is skewed a bit.
I think Neeb has a better chance than that. Did you guys not watch their series in GSL? Dark spanked Neeb. Maybe not on the level of when they met at Blizzcon, but badly. When one game was a build order loss, I don't take too much stock in a single bo3. soO also played horribly in the ro32 and yet was very close to defeating Maru, who, although not as strong in TvZ as his TvP, is still very strong in the matchup. I agree that Neeb is the underdog, but he's also underperformed at times against Korean Zergs.
Strikes me as a disingenuous comparison. Whereas soO has proven he can play excellent ZvT when in form, Neeb has never shown he can beat Korean Zergs with any degree of reliability.
Not to say Neeb can't suddenly improve a lot, but there's a big difference between regaining lost form and all-time peak.
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