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Poll: Who Advances?Maru & Reynor (38) 37% Maru & Impact (34) 33% Maru & Neeb (16) 16% Reynor & Neeb (12) 12% Impact & Reynor (2) 2% Neeb & Impact (1) 1% 103 total votes Your vote: Who Advances? (Vote): Maru & Neeb (Vote): Impact & Reynor (Vote): Maru & Impact (Vote): Reynor & Neeb (Vote): Neeb & Impact (Vote): Maru & Reynor
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Any particular reason why Neeb is a fire truck?
I think Maru makes it out of this set but I don't know enough about the other players to make any other predictions.
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On August 14 2018 03:16 Frudgey wrote: Any particular reason why Neeb is a fire truck?
It's a crane truck, not a fire truck.
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On August 14 2018 03:56 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2018 03:16 Frudgey wrote: Any particular reason why Neeb is a fire truck?
It's a crane truck, not a fire truck. Oh, I see. I also notice that it has the word "Neeb" written on it. Whoops.
Let be known that Frudgey is not known for his powers of observation.
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I think its gonna be Maru and Impact, but Reynor could upset.
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Neeb and Reynor for maximum foreigner presence. I'm a believer, but I'm also a dumbass believer 🤔
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I like to live dangerously
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On August 14 2018 16:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:I like to live dangerously And then be totally devastated when it doesn't work out
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On August 14 2018 21:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:And then be totally devastated when it doesn't work out Don't worry, SGTK is used to this feeling
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Impact just lost a BO3 to Ragnarok in Olimoleague which bodes well for Reynor here as he is definitely superior to Ragnarok.
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Maru + ??
I'd like to see Neeb. NA needs to get better at the video games.
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On August 14 2018 23:24 Lysergic1 wrote: Maru + ??
I'd like to see Neeb. NA needs to get better at the video games.
Hey man NA dominates Smash. (besides Armada/Leffen)
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vult, wouldn't necessarily put much stock in that. impact could have been holding back for gsl
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On August 14 2018 22:09 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2018 21:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 14 2018 16:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:I like to live dangerously And then be totally devastated when it doesn't work out Don't worry, SGTK is used to this feeling He also keeps saying he will stop and then doesn't. So the only logical conclusion is that he's into it.
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guys im 100% aware it isn't going to work this time
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On August 15 2018 02:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: guys im 100% aware it isn't going to work this time You're always aware.
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I am surprise people voted Reynor over Neeb.
Reynor is really good in this season but Neeb is proven to be competitive much longer than Reynor.
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Probably the biggest reason I hate being on day shift is that i miss all non weekend gsl games and can't help but spoil myself instead of waiting to watch vod.
Go neeb!
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On August 15 2018 04:35 BigRedDog wrote: I am surprise people voted Reynor over Neeb.
Reynor is really good in this season but Neeb is proven to be competitive much longer than Reynor. I know Reynor is doing very well, but Neeb's PvZ is still one of the best out of any foreigner.
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On August 15 2018 05:26 FrkFrJss wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 04:35 BigRedDog wrote: I am surprise people voted Reynor over Neeb.
Reynor is really good in this season but Neeb is proven to be competitive much longer than Reynor. I know Reynor is doing very well, but Neeb's PvZ is still one of the best out of any foreigner. Doesn't mean jackshit in context of GSL ;o
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On August 15 2018 05:29 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 05:26 FrkFrJss wrote:On August 15 2018 04:35 BigRedDog wrote: I am surprise people voted Reynor over Neeb.
Reynor is really good in this season but Neeb is proven to be competitive much longer than Reynor. I know Reynor is doing very well, but Neeb's PvZ is still one of the best out of any foreigner. Doesn't mean jackshit in context of GSL ;o
Sure it does. There's a foreign Zerg in the group and of the 3 the gap is by far the thinnest between Korean and foreign Zergs.
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On August 15 2018 05:29 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 05:26 FrkFrJss wrote:On August 15 2018 04:35 BigRedDog wrote: I am surprise people voted Reynor over Neeb.
Reynor is really good in this season but Neeb is proven to be competitive much longer than Reynor. I know Reynor is doing very well, but Neeb's PvZ is still one of the best out of any foreigner. Doesn't mean jackshit in context of GSL ;o Note that the content of my post referred to BigRedDog's surprise that people were choosing Reynor over Neeb. Reynor over Neeb means that Reynor beat Neeb in a ZvP, which directly relates to Neeb's foreign PvZ.
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foreigner team kill
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On August 15 2018 09:08 FrkFrJss wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 05:29 Ej_ wrote:On August 15 2018 05:26 FrkFrJss wrote:On August 15 2018 04:35 BigRedDog wrote: I am surprise people voted Reynor over Neeb.
Reynor is really good in this season but Neeb is proven to be competitive much longer than Reynor. I know Reynor is doing very well, but Neeb's PvZ is still one of the best out of any foreigner. Doesn't mean jackshit in context of GSL ;o Note that the content of my post referred to BigRedDog's surprise that people were choosing Reynor over Neeb. Reynor over Neeb means that Reynor beat Neeb in a ZvP, which directly relates to Neeb's foreign PvZ. Reynor can advance without beating neeb or maru if he beats Impact twice
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On August 15 2018 11:49 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 09:08 FrkFrJss wrote:On August 15 2018 05:29 Ej_ wrote:On August 15 2018 05:26 FrkFrJss wrote:On August 15 2018 04:35 BigRedDog wrote: I am surprise people voted Reynor over Neeb.
Reynor is really good in this season but Neeb is proven to be competitive much longer than Reynor. I know Reynor is doing very well, but Neeb's PvZ is still one of the best out of any foreigner. Doesn't mean jackshit in context of GSL ;o Note that the content of my post referred to BigRedDog's surprise that people were choosing Reynor over Neeb. Reynor over Neeb means that Reynor beat Neeb in a ZvP, which directly relates to Neeb's foreign PvZ. Reynor can advance without beating neeb or maru if he beats Impact twice Ah, very true, though I think that either Neeb's PvZ is good enough to beat Impact in the loser's match or for Impact's ZvZ to be good enough to beat Reynor in their opening match.
Edit: Whoo 1000th post!
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On August 15 2018 04:47 Fecalfeast wrote: Probably the biggest reason I hate being on day shift is that i miss all non weekend gsl games and can't help but spoil myself instead of waiting to watch vod. Make an effort. Watching a VOD is great since you can skip past all the breaks and fluff.
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On August 15 2018 06:30 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 05:29 Ej_ wrote:On August 15 2018 05:26 FrkFrJss wrote:On August 15 2018 04:35 BigRedDog wrote: I am surprise people voted Reynor over Neeb.
Reynor is really good in this season but Neeb is proven to be competitive much longer than Reynor. I know Reynor is doing very well, but Neeb's PvZ is still one of the best out of any foreigner. Doesn't mean jackshit in context of GSL ;o Sure it does. There's a foreign Zerg in the group and of the 3 the gap is by far the thinnest between Korean and foreign Zergs. It's also the same foreign Zerg that beat Classic to get here. If there's anything that foreign Protoss are notable at, it's making memes about how Zerg is a brainless race always wins with 55 drone all-ins.
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Really hope one of Neeb or Reynor can advance hopefully Reynor as he looks better but Neeb is only losing to Dark
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Godspeed you! the last hope of terran! I'll give all my love/power/energy to you.
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"There is nobody he cannot beat"
Hyperbole!
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Really exited to see what Neeb and Reynor can do today. Hopefully a great day of Starcraft ahead!
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Starcraft needs to be more like Aztec football
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Hopefully we get blueshift + catalyst in one series
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Tastosis are on fire today.
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Weak SCV control from Maru
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why is Maru chasing the Probe with his SCV? He loses so much mining time
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Absolutely no reaction from Neeb until the mines shot lol
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On August 15 2018 18:52 Durnuu wrote: Absolutely no reaction from Neeb until the mines shot lol
Both of them feel like they're a bit rusty
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Uhhhh...I've seen diamond Protoss players with a faster reaction to widow mine drops than that.....
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Looool that mine bust on phoenixes
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On August 15 2018 18:53 Kommander wrote: Uhhhh...I've seen diamond Protoss players with a faster reaction to widow mine drops than that.....
No you haven't lol
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Most one-sided GSL game in last 12 months?
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That was the kind of bop where it's not even because Maru's Korean, but Neeb went full foreigner. Full NA to be specific.
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That was just disrespectful. I feel like I'm watching a korean v foreigner gsl game from the silly invite days
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On August 15 2018 18:55 Penev wrote:already a classic It's like that nuke Scarlett ate
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On August 15 2018 18:54 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 18:53 Kommander wrote: Uhhhh...I've seen diamond Protoss players with a faster reaction to widow mine drops than that..... No you haven't lol I mean if the diamond players happened to be watching that spot or the minimap at the same time then they probably did.
Neeb basically didn't react, if said diamond player even does anything they're technically doing better.
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Missing some UT sounds after those kind of hits.
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On August 15 2018 18:54 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 18:53 Kommander wrote: Uhhhh...I've seen diamond Protoss players with a faster reaction to widow mine drops than that..... No you haven't lol
Well shit, I didn't know you controlled my eyes for me. I've been living a lie smh.
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damn missed the first map
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On August 15 2018 18:57 Shellshock wrote: damn missed the first map
It was a smackdown
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On August 15 2018 18:57 Shellshock wrote: damn missed the first map So did Neeb, so don't worry.
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On August 15 2018 18:57 Shellshock wrote: damn missed the first map
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why did he cancel the battery?!
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On August 15 2018 18:56 Kommander wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 18:54 Nebuchad wrote:On August 15 2018 18:53 Kommander wrote: Uhhhh...I've seen diamond Protoss players with a faster reaction to widow mine drops than that..... No you haven't lol Well shit, I didn't know you controlled my eyes for me. I've been living a lie smh.
Let's face it nobody in diamond can handle two widow mine drops in two bases
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Worst series of the year?
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On August 15 2018 19:00 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 18:56 Kommander wrote:On August 15 2018 18:54 Nebuchad wrote:On August 15 2018 18:53 Kommander wrote: Uhhhh...I've seen diamond Protoss players with a faster reaction to widow mine drops than that..... No you haven't lol Well shit, I didn't know you controlled my eyes for me. I've been living a lie smh. Let's face it nobody in diamond can handle two widow mine drops in two bases Yeah but the drop Neeb didn't react to was a single drop in his natural.
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i haven't seen many of neeb's games, is his control always his weakness?
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About what I expected. Hope for the PvZs N33b!
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On August 15 2018 18:58 TheOneAboveU wrote:So did Neeb, so don't worry.
Mean
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lol what a sad ass series
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I guess Neeb practiced only PvZ
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Dark at least put on a show against Neeb instead of speedrunning it.
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guess maru wants catch that early cinema session
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Now reynor to bop impact so he can own maru later! All according to plan
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On August 15 2018 19:01 JWD[9] wrote: i haven't seen many of neeb's games, is his control always his weakness?
No, he's usually very good at it.
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That was rough, I wonder what Neeb had prepared.
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I think Showtime put up a better fight
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On August 15 2018 19:01 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 19:00 Nebuchad wrote:On August 15 2018 18:56 Kommander wrote:On August 15 2018 18:54 Nebuchad wrote:On August 15 2018 18:53 Kommander wrote: Uhhhh...I've seen diamond Protoss players with a faster reaction to widow mine drops than that..... No you haven't lol Well shit, I didn't know you controlled my eyes for me. I've been living a lie smh. Let's face it nobody in diamond can handle two widow mine drops in two bases Yeah but the drop Neeb didn't react to was a single drop in his natural.
Missing a drop can happen at any level, the one that's questionable is when you still take damage after you know they're here
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On August 15 2018 19:02 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 19:01 JWD[9] wrote: i haven't seen many of neeb's games, is his control always his weakness? No, he's usually very good at it. So just an off day, guess that happens and hey, he is not out yet!
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On August 15 2018 19:01 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 19:00 Nebuchad wrote:On August 15 2018 18:56 Kommander wrote:On August 15 2018 18:54 Nebuchad wrote:On August 15 2018 18:53 Kommander wrote: Uhhhh...I've seen diamond Protoss players with a faster reaction to widow mine drops than that..... No you haven't lol Well shit, I didn't know you controlled my eyes for me. I've been living a lie smh. Let's face it nobody in diamond can handle two widow mine drops in two bases Yeah but the drop Neeb didn't react to was a single drop in his natural. Can't react to 4 widow mines on shift-drop, nerf Terran
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That was honestly smart of Maru to just proxy all the way, Neeb gets rattled by cheese moreso than any other player I've seen.
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maru winning all gsl's in a season would be something else
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On August 15 2018 19:01 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 19:00 Nebuchad wrote:On August 15 2018 18:56 Kommander wrote:On August 15 2018 18:54 Nebuchad wrote:On August 15 2018 18:53 Kommander wrote: Uhhhh...I've seen diamond Protoss players with a faster reaction to widow mine drops than that..... No you haven't lol Well shit, I didn't know you controlled my eyes for me. I've been living a lie smh. Let's face it nobody in diamond can handle two widow mine drops in two bases Yeah but the drop Neeb didn't react to was a single drop in his natural.
You never expect 4 widow mines drop, he had units in position I think he expected a normal 2 mines drop and he would have killed them as they landed.
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On August 15 2018 19:03 Kommander wrote: That was honestly smart of Maru to just proxy all the way, Neeb gets rattled by cheese moreso than any other player I've seen. Yeah, Neeb's biggest weakness has always been cheese. I wish he could solve that problem
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Wtf my connection crashed for 2 minutes, what happened in game 2? I just saw a proxy
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On August 15 2018 19:03 ShAd_1337 wrote: maru winning all gsl's in a season would be something else Nah nobody cares about that, if serral wins the next wcs though he is definitely the best player in the world
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Neeb shouldn't have lost to such a gimmicky build ;(
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On August 15 2018 19:03 fastr wrote: Wtf my connection crashed for 2 minutes, what happened in game 2? I just saw a proxy Marauder cyclone>Neeb
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On August 15 2018 19:02 Shellshock wrote: I think Showtime put up a better fight
I dunno.,, that 3rd game with the widow mines was some of the funniest shit I've seen in some time.
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On August 15 2018 19:02 Shellshock wrote: I think Showtime put up a better fight Maru vs Showtime game 3 was ridiculous though.
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On August 15 2018 19:03 Lollipop11 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 19:01 Durnuu wrote:On August 15 2018 19:00 Nebuchad wrote:On August 15 2018 18:56 Kommander wrote:On August 15 2018 18:54 Nebuchad wrote:On August 15 2018 18:53 Kommander wrote: Uhhhh...I've seen diamond Protoss players with a faster reaction to widow mine drops than that..... No you haven't lol Well shit, I didn't know you controlled my eyes for me. I've been living a lie smh. Let's face it nobody in diamond can handle two widow mine drops in two bases Yeah but the drop Neeb didn't react to was a single drop in his natural. You never expect 4 widow mines drop, he had units in position I think he expected a normal 2 mines drop and he would have killed them as they landed.
This is true. He was clearly prepping for a normal WM drop, in which you don't usually move the workers if you have phoenix, and then when he realised there were 4 mines, it's not worth micro-ing the workers cos sometimes the drop will do more damage if you try. He recognised it too late.
He did mismicro the drop in his main mineral line tho.
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On August 15 2018 19:06 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 19:02 Shellshock wrote: I think Showtime put up a better fight Maru vs Showtime game 3 was ridiculous though.
Was like Sideshow Bob and the rakes...
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RIP Neeb doesn’t look half as good as last year but maybe that’s just because of Maru. Hoping Reynor can show more
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Koreans and cheesing foreigners, name a better duo
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I don't remember, did any of the Koreans try to cheese Serral? Seems like they respect him well enough that they didn't try doing it.
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On August 15 2018 19:12 Kommander wrote: I don't remember, did any of the Koreans try to cheese Serral? Seems like they respect him well enough that they didn't try doing it. Rogue tries to early pool him like 2 or 3 times at IEM and promptly lost the series.
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On August 15 2018 19:12 Kommander wrote: I don't remember, did any of the Koreans try to cheese Serral? Seems like they respect him well enough that they didn't try doing it.
Stats game 2 cannon rush
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On August 15 2018 19:12 Kommander wrote: I don't remember, did any of the Koreans try to cheese Serral? Seems like they respect him well enough that they didn't try doing it. Not at GSL vs the World, no. I guess Stats did on Redshift, but he went Nexus first before the cannons lol
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On August 15 2018 19:12 Kommander wrote: I don't remember, did any of the Koreans try to cheese Serral? Seems like they respect him well enough that they didn't try doing it. They obviously cheese him sometimes, but no more often than they would other koreans. Like Classic with the chargelot allin, Stats with cannon rush etc
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Impact will do the same thing next game
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On August 15 2018 19:25 Shellshock wrote: rage pause Tactical pause, learning from the best (Zest)
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Impact looks super sloppy.
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lol Impact played terribly that game???
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So many fast GGs today. I know Impact was in a terrible spot, but it still kinda feels like people are leaving early
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The games today are weird
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Are these guys favoured to be the decider match? There's a solid chance this series ends up being irrelevent.
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This doesn't look like GSL at all...
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On August 15 2018 19:38 Shellshock wrote: Reynor vs Maru inc? Reynor will destroy maru
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On August 15 2018 19:40 Fango wrote: Are these guys favoured to be the decider match? There's a solid chance this series ends up being irrelevent.
Neeb definitly has a chance to beat either one of them in the losers match. So winning this series would be nice to have deciders match secured. Plus the tiny tiny chance to beat maru and advance.
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On August 15 2018 19:43 The_Red_Viper wrote:Reynor will destroy maru will Maru last 10 min in any game? probably dies to 1 base baneling bust
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These games today...so strange
I feel like Impact has not played well today at all
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Impact played pretty fucking bad this series.
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On August 15 2018 19:43 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 19:43 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 15 2018 19:38 Shellshock wrote: Reynor vs Maru inc? Reynor will destroy maru will Maru last 10 min in any game? probably dies to 1 base baneling bust Yeah will go to lategame every time, but there maru has no chance
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EU zergs are just so good they make Koreans look bad. been that way since the start of LotV
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I don't know anything about zvz but it feels like whoever gets lurkers wins from what I've seen.
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On August 15 2018 19:48 Fango wrote: I don't know anything about zvz but it feels like whoever gets lurkers wins from what I've seen. This game was over long before Reynor got the lurkers
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Maru had trouble with Serral's lings. Reynor lings are as good if not better. Will be interesting to see.
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Lurkers are pretty good, though!
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but seriously where were Impact's roaches when he lost his natural?
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Korean zergs just don't compare. Next match will be great.
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On August 15 2018 19:47 Keeemy wrote: Impact played pretty fucking bad this series. Nah, this looked about what I expected out of Impact. He's definitely beatable by foreigners and I expect he'll go out in 4th. I don't think Impact has the experience or builds to just cheese Neeb to death and I bet that's the only way he beats him
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On August 15 2018 19:49 Parrek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 19:47 Keeemy wrote: Impact played pretty fucking bad this series. Nah, this looked about what I expected out of Impact. He's definitely beatable by foreigners and I expect he'll go out in 4th. I don't think Impact has the experience or builds to just cheese Neeb to death and I bet that's the only way he beats him
Impact is definitely beatable by foreigners but he's still like a top 5 zerg in Korea and boy did he play like absolute trash.
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On August 15 2018 19:51 blooblooblahblah wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 19:49 Parrek wrote:On August 15 2018 19:47 Keeemy wrote: Impact played pretty fucking bad this series. Nah, this looked about what I expected out of Impact. He's definitely beatable by foreigners and I expect he'll go out in 4th. I don't think Impact has the experience or builds to just cheese Neeb to death and I bet that's the only way he beats him he's still like a top 5 zerg in Korea. Out of the like 5 zergs in korea?
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Woo Reynor vs Maru hype!
Imagine if Reynor beats Maru
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On August 15 2018 19:51 blooblooblahblah wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 19:49 Parrek wrote:On August 15 2018 19:47 Keeemy wrote: Impact played pretty fucking bad this series. Nah, this looked about what I expected out of Impact. He's definitely beatable by foreigners and I expect he'll go out in 4th. I don't think Impact has the experience or builds to just cheese Neeb to death and I bet that's the only way he beats him Impact is definitely beatable by foreigners but he's still like a top 5 zerg in Korea and boy did he play like absolute trash. Top 5 zerg in Korea is basically every relevant Zerg, though. That's not impressive. soO, Rogue, Dark, Impact, Solar. Leenock had a surge of form, but is usually irrelevant.
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Korean GGs are on another level
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On August 15 2018 19:48 Fango wrote: I don't know anything about zvz but it feels like whoever gets lurkers wins from what I've seen.
Vipers can deal with Lurkers really well so it’s not game over but you do need tier 3
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On August 15 2018 19:51 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 19:51 blooblooblahblah wrote:On August 15 2018 19:49 Parrek wrote:On August 15 2018 19:47 Keeemy wrote: Impact played pretty fucking bad this series. Nah, this looked about what I expected out of Impact. He's definitely beatable by foreigners and I expect he'll go out in 4th. I don't think Impact has the experience or builds to just cheese Neeb to death and I bet that's the only way he beats him he's still like a top 5 zerg in Korea. Out of the like 5 zergs in korea?
Yeah basically.
Still expect him to play better than that though. Game 2 and 3 had me actually speechless.
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On August 15 2018 19:43 The_Red_Viper wrote:Reynor will destroy maru
I think Maru will take it, but I also think it's genuinely possible you're right.
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On August 15 2018 19:52 Parrek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 19:51 blooblooblahblah wrote:On August 15 2018 19:49 Parrek wrote:On August 15 2018 19:47 Keeemy wrote: Impact played pretty fucking bad this series. Nah, this looked about what I expected out of Impact. He's definitely beatable by foreigners and I expect he'll go out in 4th. I don't think Impact has the experience or builds to just cheese Neeb to death and I bet that's the only way he beats him Impact is definitely beatable by foreigners but he's still like a top 5 zerg in Korea and boy did he play like absolute trash. Top 5 zerg in Korea is basically every relevant Zerg, though. That's not impressive. soO, Rogue, Dark, Impact, Solar. Leenock had a surge of form, but is usually irrelevant.
I'm aware of that, I'm mostly just shocked about how badly he actually played.
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On August 15 2018 19:49 Parrek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 19:47 Keeemy wrote: Impact played pretty fucking bad this series. Nah, this looked about what I expected out of Impact. He's definitely beatable by foreigners and I expect he'll go out in 4th. I don't think Impact has the experience or builds to just cheese Neeb to death and I bet that's the only way he beats him I'm not saying I expected anything else either. Just that he played horribly (compared to Reynor).
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On August 15 2018 19:55 Keeemy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 19:49 Parrek wrote:On August 15 2018 19:47 Keeemy wrote: Impact played pretty fucking bad this series. Nah, this looked about what I expected out of Impact. He's definitely beatable by foreigners and I expect he'll go out in 4th. I don't think Impact has the experience or builds to just cheese Neeb to death and I bet that's the only way he beats him I'm not saying I expected anything else either. Just that he played horribly (compared to Reynor). Impact didn't play that crap. Reynor played much better. That EU ZvZ pays off after all. The way you came across at first was a Korean apologist saying any Korean who loses to a foreigner fucking sucks
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gotta say that cover sucks compared to the Linkin Park version
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On August 15 2018 19:57 Parrek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 19:55 Keeemy wrote:On August 15 2018 19:49 Parrek wrote:On August 15 2018 19:47 Keeemy wrote: Impact played pretty fucking bad this series. Nah, this looked about what I expected out of Impact. He's definitely beatable by foreigners and I expect he'll go out in 4th. I don't think Impact has the experience or builds to just cheese Neeb to death and I bet that's the only way he beats him I'm not saying I expected anything else either. Just that he played horribly (compared to Reynor). Impact didn't play that crap. Reynor played much better. That EU ZvZ pays off after all. The way you came across at first was a Korean apologist saying any Korean who loses to a foreigner fucking sucks
He didn't come across that way at all, you're definitely spinning what he said.
Impact played reallyyy bad. Not saying Reynor didn't play well. But everything, idle overseer, terrible muta reaction, always losing first overlord, losing hatchery etc. He actually played really bad.
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On August 15 2018 19:57 Parrek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 19:55 Keeemy wrote:On August 15 2018 19:49 Parrek wrote:On August 15 2018 19:47 Keeemy wrote: Impact played pretty fucking bad this series. Nah, this looked about what I expected out of Impact. He's definitely beatable by foreigners and I expect he'll go out in 4th. I don't think Impact has the experience or builds to just cheese Neeb to death and I bet that's the only way he beats him I'm not saying I expected anything else either. Just that he played horribly (compared to Reynor). Impact didn't play that crap. Reynor played much better. That EU ZvZ pays off after all. The way you came across at first was a Korean apologist saying any Korean who loses to a foreigner fucking sucks I swear you can't say a korean played like trash anymore without people calling you a korean apologist. Regardless of how well they actually played.
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It's not that Impact played very bad. Reynor just played better and countered every of his strategies.
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Oh shit, they actually managed to sneak Blueshift in there.
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Wait blueshift is in GSL? Have the guys even played it more than a day
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Its basically Catalyst sideways so no big deal that Blueshift is in there.
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On August 15 2018 19:57 Parrek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 19:55 Keeemy wrote:On August 15 2018 19:49 Parrek wrote:On August 15 2018 19:47 Keeemy wrote: Impact played pretty fucking bad this series. Nah, this looked about what I expected out of Impact. He's definitely beatable by foreigners and I expect he'll go out in 4th. I don't think Impact has the experience or builds to just cheese Neeb to death and I bet that's the only way he beats him I'm not saying I expected anything else either. Just that he played horribly (compared to Reynor). Impact didn't play that crap. Reynor played much better. That EU ZvZ pays off after all. The way you came across at first was a Korean apologist saying any Korean who loses to a foreigner fucking sucks LOL okay. My bad.
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I bet Reynor dies to the 2-1-1
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I have bad memories of Maru and pauses
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Reynor is in a good spot to counter the push of Maru.
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Even as a viewer you lose the flow of game because of pause. Must be much worse for players.
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Must be hardware issue since they are hauling computers in the back.
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wondering from where the replay from pause will be
tactical pause much lol?
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Lambo such a korean apologist
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Still a reasonable chance Maru falls out of this group
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this is golden era tastosis
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Think he forgot T, at least!
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Wonder whats taking so long if they are swapping PCs. Im sure they have another PC backstage, so just unplug the broken one and plug in the new, boot up and voila, 90 seconds gone by. Instead 3 people standing over Maru looking at his screen.
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You can say about tastosis whatever you want, but they are the best ever at dealing with breaks, no caster in any traditional sport or esport was able to fill time with that much quality. Highest skilled era
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On August 15 2018 20:18 The_Red_Viper wrote: best ever hyperbole much?
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On August 15 2018 20:18 The_Red_Viper wrote: You can say about tastosis whatever you want, but they are the best ever at dealing with breaks, no caster in any traditional sport or esport was able to fill time with that much quality. Highest skilled era
Have you already forgotten Wolf solocasting
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On August 15 2018 20:18 shabby wrote: Wonder whats taking so long if they are swapping PCs. Im sure they have another PC backstage, so just unplug the broken one and plug in the new, boot up and voila, 90 seconds gone by. Instead 3 people standing over Maru looking at his screen. Maybe they have like 20 windows updates waiting them.
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On August 15 2018 20:20 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 20:18 The_Red_Viper wrote: You can say about tastosis whatever you want, but they are the best ever at dealing with breaks, no caster in any traditional sport or esport was able to fill time with that much quality. Highest skilled era Have you already forgotten Wolf solocasting Wolf isn't allowed to exist for my narrative, i miss wolf though
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Those 3 seconds are important. That should be right before the ling/marine fight
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On August 15 2018 20:18 The_Red_Viper wrote: You can say about tastosis whatever you want, but they are the best ever at dealing with breaks, no caster in any traditional sport or esport was able to fill time with that much quality. Highest skilled era Aren't American sports some sort of giant break with very few moments of actual sport here and there? I totally expect their casters to be top notch when it comes to filling the downtime.
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Good resume for Maru. Better hold for Reynor!
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Big miscontrol from Maru. He always fucks up when there's a pause
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It's so fun to watch Reynor
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Maru bro. Lift your depots.
btfo son
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Maru getting PTSD from those ling runbys
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Wohooo, sick shit Reynor! One more :D
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Dude... Maru... watch your fucking screen. What's with the games tonight?
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whats in that foreigner water
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Reynor stomping Maru. Europe zergs making miracles happen.
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As I said a while ago, Maru is a fair bit passed his peak now.
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Cutting corners by having supply depots lowered 100% of the time not valid anymore.
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EU Zergs are something else, that's for sure.
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On August 15 2018 20:25 Lorning wrote: whats in that foreigner water
Flour that causes mind control
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how can Maru be playing so bad, he looked on point against Neeb
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On August 15 2018 20:25 Heartland wrote:Flour that causes mind control
NesTea confirmed controlling all foreigner zergs.
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only player Reynor lost to at WCS is Serral. So I guess Reynor is the second best player in the world now?
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Proxy incoming Edit: called it
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Bring out the cheddar boys
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Does Maru ever not proxy in the 2nd set? Heh
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LOL cmon Maru, you're so predictable
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Maru needs to stop 2 raxing when down
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On August 15 2018 20:25 Dave4 wrote: *hugs Lorning*
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On August 15 2018 20:27 Parrek wrote: Maru needs to stop 2 raxing when down
You don't do something for 5 years with decent success and stop doing it
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On August 15 2018 20:26 Mun_Su wrote: how can Maru be playing so bad, he looked on point against Neeb He cheesed Neeb and Neeb always crumbles to TvP cheese in particular. We never really saw what Maru looked like
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On August 15 2018 20:28 Parrek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 20:26 Mun_Su wrote: how can Maru be playing so bad, he looked on point against Neeb He cheesed Neeb and Neeb always crumbles to TvP cheese in particular. We never really saw what Maru looked like
well, i think its obvious that he didn't prepare for this tournament, since this is also one of those the doesn't take too seriously (i.e. every tournament he might loose to a non-korean)
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Why is Maru sending marines accross the map
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Meh not pulling back against hellions behind a wall
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On August 15 2018 20:31 shabby wrote: Meh not pulling back against hellions behind a wall At least you can count on foreigners goign full foreigner
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Doing the full foreigner vs this wall-in
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I don't think Maru's wall is tight?
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Yeah, Reynor's youth showed there. Should've pulled back when the hellions got there.
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Damn that defense was good by Reynor, lets see how good he is vs mech
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maru's defense against the ling flood was good, but it was what any pro terran should be able to do when they scout it halfway across the map. i dunno if i would call it "maru magic" that reynor took a calculated risk to flood lings and it didn't work out because wall+hellions were on time. credit to maru's build, but it was reynor's risk
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Ok, Maru is really playing now, I think.
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Oooh double starport, interesting
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On August 15 2018 20:34 neutralrobot wrote: Ok, Maru is really playing now, I think. i keep hearing about this phenomenon where when terrans lose it's because they're not playing "for real." innovation, maru... geez, maybe these guys should just try all the time! they'd be 100%!
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Should have went swarm hosts
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Game is getting interesting.
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On August 15 2018 20:35 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 20:34 neutralrobot wrote: Ok, Maru is really playing now, I think. i keep hearing about this phenomenon where when terrans lose it's because they're not playing "for real." innovation, maru... geez, maybe these guys should just try all the time! they'd be 100%!
it has nothing to do with terrans more when players from a specific country are involved against someone outside of the mentioned country
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the brood lord timing has to hit big here or zerg has really uneven upgrades and tech in a lategame against terran, which is death
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On August 15 2018 20:35 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 20:34 neutralrobot wrote: Ok, Maru is really playing now, I think. i keep hearing about this phenomenon where when terrans lose it's because they're not playing "for real." innovation, maru... geez, maybe these guys should just try all the time! they'd be 100%!
To be clear, I don't think that Maru held back and I wasn't making excuses for him. But I think that the prospect of almost losing has woken him up somehow, like some cold water to the face. It's always possible I'm wrong, that's just how it looks to me.
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Reynor is going beastmode.
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On August 15 2018 20:38 neutralrobot wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 20:35 brickrd wrote:On August 15 2018 20:34 neutralrobot wrote: Ok, Maru is really playing now, I think. i keep hearing about this phenomenon where when terrans lose it's because they're not playing "for real." innovation, maru... geez, maybe these guys should just try all the time! they'd be 100%! To be clear, I don't think that Maru held back and I wasn't making excuses for him. But I think that the prospect of almost losing has woken him up somehow, like some cold water to the face. It's always possible I'm wrong, that's just how it looks to me. no worries dude it was just meant as a joke
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Maru should have sent his banshees to the 5th instead of the 3rd
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Could really have used some broodlords right now =(
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On August 15 2018 20:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 20:31 shabby wrote: Meh not pulling back against hellions behind a wall At least you can count on foreigners goign full foreigner ↑ :'(
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maru just outplayed reynor tactically. the fact that he was able to take out so many bases with a mech army so quickly without being caught out of position is insane.
so do we think reynor wins this game if he doesn't go for that ling flood?
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Great game, almost broke him with BL
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All he had to do was make swarmhosts when he saw the double armory and he would have crushed him...
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my expectation is now for Reynor to lose this game and then lose the rematch to Impact after going up 1-0
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This headbutt with lings against ebay + hellion did half the job, then maru just outplayed reynor.
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The winrate of 2rax/3rax really is that isn't it
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On August 15 2018 20:42 brickrd wrote: maru just outplayed reynor tactically. the fact that he was able to take out so many bases with a mech army so quickly without being caught out of position is insane.
so do we think reynor wins this game if he doesn't go for that ling flood?
It wasn't that he did it, he stopped and turned to kill 2 marines, if he hadn't of done that, he wins the game
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On August 15 2018 20:43 GreasedUpDeafGuy wrote: All he had to do was make swarmhosts when he saw the double armory and he would have crushed him... it seems like some zergs have a weird thing where they prefer muta over swarm hosts against mech. it's not like muta is the worst thing in the world, but i agree swarm hosts are a much higher percentage play in that situation
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Fun game, tbh Reynor was never really ahead though once he committed so hard to that ling thing that did nothing
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On August 15 2018 20:40 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 20:38 neutralrobot wrote:On August 15 2018 20:35 brickrd wrote:On August 15 2018 20:34 neutralrobot wrote: Ok, Maru is really playing now, I think. i keep hearing about this phenomenon where when terrans lose it's because they're not playing "for real." innovation, maru... geez, maybe these guys should just try all the time! they'd be 100%! To be clear, I don't think that Maru held back and I wasn't making excuses for him. But I think that the prospect of almost losing has woken him up somehow, like some cold water to the face. It's always possible I'm wrong, that's just how it looks to me. no worries dude it was just meant as a joke
Haha. Oh jeez. You've emulated a certain type of post very well...
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I completely forgot that it's on today. Have I missed much?
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he'll never expect me to do it twice in a row!
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On August 15 2018 20:44 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 20:43 GreasedUpDeafGuy wrote: All he had to do was make swarmhosts when he saw the double armory and he would have crushed him... it seems like some zergs have a weird thing where they prefer muta over swarm hosts against mech. it's not like muta is the worst thing in the world, but i agree swarm hosts are a much higher percentage play in that situation
It's fine to go mutas if you actually do something with them. He did nothing but kill a barracks
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On August 15 2018 20:44 Noonius wrote: I completely forgot that it's on today. Have I missed much? some bops
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On August 15 2018 20:43 GreasedUpDeafGuy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 20:42 brickrd wrote: maru just outplayed reynor tactically. the fact that he was able to take out so many bases with a mech army so quickly without being caught out of position is insane.
so do we think reynor wins this game if he doesn't go for that ling flood? It wasn't that he did it, he stopped and turned to kill 2 marines, if he hadn't of done that, he wins the game if your entire gameplan fails because you killed 2 marines on the way to your opponent's base then you can just say reynor took a risk and it didn't work out
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Tastosis kinda downplayed the fact that losing those BLs lost the game for Reynor.
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the thing with the 2 rax is, that even if it doesn't work, maru's winrate is still damn high with it
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best BO in the history of all starcraft
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Maru? More like HopeTorture
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Maru still good with them proxies and micro. GO!
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On August 15 2018 20:44 GreasedUpDeafGuy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 20:44 brickrd wrote:On August 15 2018 20:43 GreasedUpDeafGuy wrote: All he had to do was make swarmhosts when he saw the double armory and he would have crushed him... it seems like some zergs have a weird thing where they prefer muta over swarm hosts against mech. it's not like muta is the worst thing in the world, but i agree swarm hosts are a much higher percentage play in that situation It's fine to go mutas if you actually do something with them. He did nothing but kill a barracks well yeah, that's what i mean. it's harder to "do something" with mutas against mech than with swarm hosts. muta requires constant attention and focus fire and if mech is set up properly there might not be any openings, whereas the goal with swarm hosts is usually just to bully down tanks. like you said, maru had no supporting units after the failed 2rax, so it's hard to see how he would have dealt with SH.
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Reminds me of Mvp doing this to squirtle.
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the bunker cant actually hit the hatch tho
it shoots the larva/eggs
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I wonder if Maru can play a real game or just cheese?
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Pretty close series. Makes sense Maru wanted to end third game quickly.
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On August 15 2018 20:47 Terra1 wrote: Bunker micro! Wow Maru! i mean, yes, maru is amazing at micro. but i don't think it's actually that hard to micro marines in and out of a bunker when it's literally the only thing happening in the entire game
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why would you not scout for it...wtf. He literally does this any time he's about to lose a match. How full foreigner can you go?
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On August 15 2018 20:49 Steroidbrucie wrote: I wonder if Maru can play a real game or just cheese? he's too scared to play straight up
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Hmm...Maru plays someone from group B :x
might be in trouble this season.
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Flashbacks of GSL season 2 where Zanster should have beaten Maru but threw it somehow
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lol it's 2018 and terrans have been doing this for 8 years. How zergs fail to scout this and lose to this build still is beyond me.
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I think Neeb can move on, but he will get easily beat in ro8 by cheese
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On August 15 2018 20:49 brickrd wrote:i mean, yes, maru is amazing at micro. but i don't think it's actually that hard to micro marines in and out of a bunker when it's literally the only thing happening in the entire game it also didnt really help at all because the spine was just hitting the bunker the whole time so he didnt dodge any shots lol
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On August 15 2018 20:49 ReachTheSky wrote: lol it's 2018 and terrans have been doing this for 8 years. How zergs fail to scout this and lose to this build still is beyond me. We need bigger maps.
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On August 15 2018 20:49 Steroidbrucie wrote: I wonder if Maru can play a real game or just cheese? He can play both games though, as seen in many of his GSL games where some went to late game and won.
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On August 15 2018 20:49 GreasedUpDeafGuy wrote: why would you not scout for it...wtf. He literally does this any time he's about to lose a match. How full foreigner can you go? He blind countered proxyrax in game 2. But didn't realise Maru was Maru and went greedy in game 3.
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I think zergs just need to drone scout tvz now, that build is broken you need to get ready for it
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once a cheeser, always a cheeser
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On August 15 2018 20:49 ReachTheSky wrote: lol it's 2018 and terrans have been doing this for 8 years. How zergs fail to scout this and lose to this build still is beyond me.
Stupidity. Nothing beyond that. But people will defend them anyway
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Congtrats Maru! Real mech god.
What's happend on blueshift with Maru? Missed it.
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On August 15 2018 20:49 shabby wrote: Pretty close series. Makes sense Maru wanted to end third game quickly. that's something i respect greatly about top koreans: if they feel like their opponent can go head to head in a macro game then more often than not they'll just cheese them out. as long as you know your builds it's the right way to play tournaments
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On August 15 2018 20:50 dummy1 wrote: Congtrats Maru! Real mech god.
What's happend on blueshift with Maru? Missed it. Zergling run by
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Lol Maru got upset about losing and just proxied the rest. He's truly the terran i can believe in.
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On August 15 2018 20:50 dummy1 wrote: Congtrats Maru! Real mech god.
What's happend on blueshift with Maru? Missed it. his 2-1-1 got pooped on
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On August 15 2018 20:50 dummy1 wrote: Congtrats Maru! Real mech god.
What's happend on blueshift with Maru? Missed it. He tried the build with the 211 tank push but it didn't work due to bad micro. (And that build isn't even good anymore)
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On August 15 2018 20:49 ReachTheSky wrote: lol it's 2018 and terrans have been doing this for 8 years. How zergs fail to scout this and lose to this build still is beyond me. Because theres 4 proxy locations on Catalyst and you have 2 overlords when 2rax finishes. But you are welcome to release a how to play video against 2rax, be my guest, coach ReachTheSky
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On August 15 2018 20:50 dummy1 wrote: Congtrats Maru! Real mech god.
What's happend on blueshift with Maru? Missed it. He got dominated
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Maru reminds me of young Flash, cheesing and just straight up winning games. I remember Flash cheesing Bisu out of an OSL, boy he got a lot of hate for that lol
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On August 15 2018 20:51 Dynge wrote: Lol Maru got upset about losing and just proxied the rest. He's truly the terran i can believe in. Maru has been doing that since 2013 and no pro player other than PartinG realised and got free wins by blind countering it.
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On August 15 2018 20:51 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 20:49 ReachTheSky wrote: lol it's 2018 and terrans have been doing this for 8 years. How zergs fail to scout this and lose to this build still is beyond me. Because theres 4 proxy locations on Catalyst and you have 2 overlords when 2rax finishes. But you are welcome to release a how to play video against 2rax, be my guest, coach ReachTheSky
I still feel like it's worth to drone scout it IF you're playing MARU and it's the final game of the series. It's such a meme but he's actually so predictable with when he does it.
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On August 15 2018 20:51 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 20:49 ReachTheSky wrote: lol it's 2018 and terrans have been doing this for 8 years. How zergs fail to scout this and lose to this build still is beyond me. Because theres 4 proxy locations on Catalyst and you have 2 overlords when 2rax finishes. But you are welcome to release a how to play video against 2rax, be my guest, coach ReachTheSky
so salty
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On August 15 2018 20:49 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Hmm...Maru plays someone from group B :x
might be in trouble this season.
Nah, he'll power back up and make everyone look like they've used the easy mode AI as their practice partner.
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Who voted for both Maru and Impact by the way guys? Have a feeling Impact might not make it.
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On August 15 2018 20:53 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 20:51 Dynge wrote: Lol Maru got upset about losing and just proxied the rest. He's truly the terran i can believe in. Maru has been doing that since 2013 and no pro player other than PartinG realised and got free wins by blind countering it. my favorite was when he 2raxed every game on Merry Go Round, people DID blind counter it, and he still won
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On August 15 2018 20:54 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 20:51 Ej_ wrote:On August 15 2018 20:49 ReachTheSky wrote: lol it's 2018 and terrans have been doing this for 8 years. How zergs fail to scout this and lose to this build still is beyond me. Because theres 4 proxy locations on Catalyst and you have 2 overlords when 2rax finishes. But you are welcome to release a how to play video against 2rax, be my guest, coach ReachTheSky so salty I just think it's really fucking stupid how a random guy online thinks he's solved the game and the progamers just need to learn to play, because it's so easy.
Drone scouting is also obviously a cost vs gain scenario, but everyone can be a strategy genius with hindsight and time machine.
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Being upset and just proxied in your face. Size of balls = big balls. I'm a little bit upset that he is not practicing so much. Need to work. And also about losing his first game against Reynor. But anyway gg from both sides.
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On August 15 2018 20:56 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 20:54 Noonius wrote:On August 15 2018 20:51 Ej_ wrote:On August 15 2018 20:49 ReachTheSky wrote: lol it's 2018 and terrans have been doing this for 8 years. How zergs fail to scout this and lose to this build still is beyond me. Because theres 4 proxy locations on Catalyst and you have 2 overlords when 2rax finishes. But you are welcome to release a how to play video against 2rax, be my guest, coach ReachTheSky so salty I just think it's really fucking stupid how a random guy online thinks he's solved the game and the progamers just need to learn to play, because it's so easy. Drone scouting is also obviously a cost vs gain scenario, but everyone can be a strategy genius with hindsight and time machine. i mean i agree with you dude but the same thing you can say about defending 2rax you can also say about getting sucked into arguments with armchair GMs in LR threads
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On August 15 2018 20:56 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 20:54 Noonius wrote:On August 15 2018 20:51 Ej_ wrote:On August 15 2018 20:49 ReachTheSky wrote: lol it's 2018 and terrans have been doing this for 8 years. How zergs fail to scout this and lose to this build still is beyond me. Because theres 4 proxy locations on Catalyst and you have 2 overlords when 2rax finishes. But you are welcome to release a how to play video against 2rax, be my guest, coach ReachTheSky so salty I just think it's really fucking stupid how a random guy online thinks he's solved the game and the progamers just need to learn to play, because it's so easy. Drone scouting is also obviously a cost vs gain scenario, but everyone can be a strategy genius with hindsight and time machine. Everyone outside of actual pros seems to remember that Maru proxies whenever he's down in a series though.
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I think Neeb Maru is better. Neeb still has good PvZ and recently has mainly had problems vs Dark. If Impact has some good cheese builds ready he'll take it, but otherwise, I think Neeb has it and can beat Reynor as well
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On August 15 2018 20:51 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 20:49 ReachTheSky wrote: lol it's 2018 and terrans have been doing this for 8 years. How zergs fail to scout this and lose to this build still is beyond me. Because theres 4 proxy locations on Catalyst and you have 2 overlords when 2rax finishes. But you are welcome to release a how to play video against 2rax, be my guest, coach ReachTheSky
I'm flattered you look up to me like i'm a coach, bud. Nothing is stopping a zerg from scouting with a drone. Zergs are just too greedy. Everyone knows that Maru does these builds on a very regular basis lol. Yet we have some sillies in this thread calling for increased bunker build time SMH.
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Curious to ask, how's Impact's ZvP? Neeb's PvZ might not win vs the best Korean Zergs but idk about vs Impact yet.
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Did he have to move his spine closer, when it was burrowed? If the bunker couldnt hit the hatch, maru had to come out of the bunker to do damage, isnt it better to leave the spine 1 hex off like it was?
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On August 15 2018 20:59 Parrek wrote: I think Neeb Maru is better. Neeb still has good PvZ and recently has mainly had problems vs Dark. If Impact has some good cheese builds ready he'll take it, but otherwise, I think Neeb has it and can beat Reynor as well
I seem to remember Impact doing some pretty weird builds in ZvP. Neeb will have a tough time against him I think.
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On August 15 2018 20:59 Parrek wrote: I think Neeb Maru is better. Neeb still has good PvZ and recently has mainly had problems vs Dark. If Impact has some good cheese builds ready he'll take it, but otherwise, I think Neeb has it and can beat Reynor as well
if impact prepared in any way against neeb, he cheeses like anything and we get a rematch , but raynor is the favorit against either imho
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On August 15 2018 20:56 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 20:54 Noonius wrote:On August 15 2018 20:51 Ej_ wrote:On August 15 2018 20:49 ReachTheSky wrote: lol it's 2018 and terrans have been doing this for 8 years. How zergs fail to scout this and lose to this build still is beyond me. Because theres 4 proxy locations on Catalyst and you have 2 overlords when 2rax finishes. But you are welcome to release a how to play video against 2rax, be my guest, coach ReachTheSky so salty I just think it's really fucking stupid how a random guy online thinks he's solved the game and the progamers just need to learn to play, because it's so easy. Drone scouting is also obviously a cost vs gain scenario, but everyone can be a strategy genius with hindsight and time machine.
It's obviously easier to sit here and judge on the stream, but cmon, this is Maru. If 90% of the people watching already know when Maru is going to proxy rax before the game, a pro player fighting for their life in a tournament can make the extra preparation for a build that is statistically extremely likely from a particular player. This is not just hindsight talking.
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On August 15 2018 20:58 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 20:56 Ej_ wrote:On August 15 2018 20:54 Noonius wrote:On August 15 2018 20:51 Ej_ wrote:On August 15 2018 20:49 ReachTheSky wrote: lol it's 2018 and terrans have been doing this for 8 years. How zergs fail to scout this and lose to this build still is beyond me. Because theres 4 proxy locations on Catalyst and you have 2 overlords when 2rax finishes. But you are welcome to release a how to play video against 2rax, be my guest, coach ReachTheSky so salty I just think it's really fucking stupid how a random guy online thinks he's solved the game and the progamers just need to learn to play, because it's so easy. Drone scouting is also obviously a cost vs gain scenario, but everyone can be a strategy genius with hindsight and time machine. Everyone outside of actual pros seems to remember that Maru proxies whenever he's down in a series though. i just think it makes more sense to suppose that pros have actual reasons for not wanting to spend every game drone scouting the entire map than to conclude that zerg players are lobotomized chimps who have no idea how maru plays
idk if you play zerg much, but you can definitely drone scout for a 2rax and still not find it. after you've played a game where your drone misses the barracks by 1 hex you start relying on overlords more. it's also very map dependent and meta dependent (meaning the meta of where to place proxies)
i'm not disagreeing that a drone scout would have been good in that game, but reductive reasoning about cost-benefit situations involving workers and mining time where forum posters say "pros are idiots" is just kind of a waste of time. i tend to think the person who ladders at 6.5k knows more about how builds work than i do
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On August 15 2018 20:56 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 20:54 Noonius wrote:On August 15 2018 20:51 Ej_ wrote:On August 15 2018 20:49 ReachTheSky wrote: lol it's 2018 and terrans have been doing this for 8 years. How zergs fail to scout this and lose to this build still is beyond me. Because theres 4 proxy locations on Catalyst and you have 2 overlords when 2rax finishes. But you are welcome to release a how to play video against 2rax, be my guest, coach ReachTheSky so salty I just think it's really fucking stupid how a random guy online thinks he's solved the game and the progamers just need to learn to play, because it's so easy. Drone scouting is also obviously a cost vs gain scenario, but everyone can be a strategy genius with hindsight and time machine.
It's not even hindsight here. Literally, for the last 8 years, zergs have played against this. It doesn't take 8 years and it doesn't take a progamer to figure out you should drone scout and then take the terran's second gas with the drone.
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On August 15 2018 21:03 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 20:58 Fango wrote:On August 15 2018 20:56 Ej_ wrote:On August 15 2018 20:54 Noonius wrote:On August 15 2018 20:51 Ej_ wrote:On August 15 2018 20:49 ReachTheSky wrote: lol it's 2018 and terrans have been doing this for 8 years. How zergs fail to scout this and lose to this build still is beyond me. Because theres 4 proxy locations on Catalyst and you have 2 overlords when 2rax finishes. But you are welcome to release a how to play video against 2rax, be my guest, coach ReachTheSky so salty I just think it's really fucking stupid how a random guy online thinks he's solved the game and the progamers just need to learn to play, because it's so easy. Drone scouting is also obviously a cost vs gain scenario, but everyone can be a strategy genius with hindsight and time machine. Everyone outside of actual pros seems to remember that Maru proxies whenever he's down in a series though. i just think it makes more sense to suppose that pros have actual reasons for not wanting to spend every game drone scouting the entire map than to conclude that zerg players are lobotomized chimps who have no idea how maru plays idk if you play zerg much, but you can definitely drone scout for a 2rax and still not find it. after you've played a game where your drone misses the barracks by 1 hex you start relying on overlords more. it's also very map dependent and meta dependent (meaning the meta of where to place proxies) i'm not disagreeing that a drone scout would have been good in that game, but reductive reasoning about cost-benefit situations involving workers and mining time where forum posters say "pros are idiots" is just kind of a waste of time. i tend to think the person who ladders at 6.5k knows more about how builds work than i do
i think it is less about the scout and more about not choosing the greedy builds when in front against maru, which is a sensible thing to think about would say
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On August 15 2018 21:03 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 20:58 Fango wrote:On August 15 2018 20:56 Ej_ wrote:On August 15 2018 20:54 Noonius wrote:On August 15 2018 20:51 Ej_ wrote:On August 15 2018 20:49 ReachTheSky wrote: lol it's 2018 and terrans have been doing this for 8 years. How zergs fail to scout this and lose to this build still is beyond me. Because theres 4 proxy locations on Catalyst and you have 2 overlords when 2rax finishes. But you are welcome to release a how to play video against 2rax, be my guest, coach ReachTheSky so salty I just think it's really fucking stupid how a random guy online thinks he's solved the game and the progamers just need to learn to play, because it's so easy. Drone scouting is also obviously a cost vs gain scenario, but everyone can be a strategy genius with hindsight and time machine. Everyone outside of actual pros seems to remember that Maru proxies whenever he's down in a series though. i just think it makes more sense to suppose that pros have actual reasons for not wanting to spend every game drone scouting the entire map than to conclude that zerg players are lobotomized chimps who have no idea how maru plays idk if you play zerg much, but you can definitely drone scout for a 2rax and still not find it. after you've played a game where your drone misses the barracks by 1 hex you start relying on overlords more. it's also very map dependent and meta dependent (meaning the meta of where to place proxies) i'm not disagreeing that a drone scout would have been good in that game, but reductive reasoning about cost-benefit situations involving workers and mining time where forum posters say "pros are idiots" is just kind of a waste of time They may have reasons for not drone scouting. But c'mon, it's Maru. We sit here in LR threads every time saying he's gonna proxy, and he always does, and the zergs don't counter it, and they lose.
PartinG used to beat him on a regular basis in HotS by literally blind countering proxy rax. I've used that example so much because he's the only pro that realised how often he does it. I'm not saying you have to open pool first every map against Maru, but it should warrant some kind of preparation
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Nice chargelot-archon timing attack Neeb. If Neeb wins, either Reynor or Neeb will advance and I'm happy regardless.
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so... impact didn't know that was coming? did he overlord scout the main? he just kind of instantly died to a standard protoss build
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Man, Artosis is screwing over players with his predictions
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On August 15 2018 21:08 brickrd wrote: so... impact didn't know that was coming? did he overlord scout the main? he just kind of instantly died to a standard protoss build Can't overlord scout the 8 gates vs a stargate opener
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Today has been a bit disappointing. Most of the games have ended quickly and often with a BO loss
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On August 15 2018 21:00 ReachTheSky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 20:51 Ej_ wrote:On August 15 2018 20:49 ReachTheSky wrote: lol it's 2018 and terrans have been doing this for 8 years. How zergs fail to scout this and lose to this build still is beyond me. Because theres 4 proxy locations on Catalyst and you have 2 overlords when 2rax finishes. But you are welcome to release a how to play video against 2rax, be my guest, coach ReachTheSky I'm flattered you look up to me like i'm a coach, bud. Nothing is stopping a zerg from scouting with a drone. Zergs are just too greedy. Everyone knows that Maru does these builds on a very regular basis lol. Yet we have some sillies in this thread calling for increased bunker build time SMH.
has nothing to do with greedy. zerg cant really afford to drone scout. therefore you have the 2 overlords to work with. that how the different races are working.
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On August 15 2018 21:08 brickrd wrote: so... impact didn't know that was coming? did he overlord scout the main? he just kind of instantly died to a standard protoss build
lol 8 gate is not a standard build at all but yes it is quite hard to scout
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On August 15 2018 21:08 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 21:08 brickrd wrote: so... impact didn't know that was coming? did he overlord scout the main? he just kind of instantly died to a standard protoss build Can't overlord scout the 8 gates vs a stargate opener i suppose you normally can't, but that build has been meta for so long that it's a surprising gamble for impact to just have no units
On August 15 2018 21:09 blooblooblahblah wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 21:08 brickrd wrote: so... impact didn't know that was coming? did he overlord scout the main? he just kind of instantly died to a standard protoss build lol 8 gate is not a standard build at all but yes it is quite hard to scout 8 gate chargelot archon is not standard in pvz? i dunno what i've been watching for the last few months then?
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God I love how ruthless Neeb plays. Punishing every mistake of his opponent.
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On August 15 2018 21:10 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 21:08 Durnuu wrote:On August 15 2018 21:08 brickrd wrote: so... impact didn't know that was coming? did he overlord scout the main? he just kind of instantly died to a standard protoss build Can't overlord scout the 8 gates vs a stargate opener i suppose you normally can't, but that build has been meta for so long that it's a surprising gamble for impact to just have no units
I agree, especially since Neeb still had no third at 5 and half minutes, which usually indicates more gates being put down and a rush incoming.
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On August 15 2018 21:10 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 21:08 Durnuu wrote:On August 15 2018 21:08 brickrd wrote: so... impact didn't know that was coming? did he overlord scout the main? he just kind of instantly died to a standard protoss build Can't overlord scout the 8 gates vs a stargate opener i suppose you normally can't, but that build has been meta for so long that it's a surprising gamble for impact to just have no units
He went +1 ling which I consider a BO loss against this anyway. He was probably trying to blind counter Neeb's 2SG which he's been doing a lot in recent PvZ matches
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*crosses fingers* Neeeeeeeeb
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Impact really is playing like crap today.
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On August 15 2018 21:13 darklycid wrote: Impact really is playing like crap today.
Erryday!
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impact has to kill the third with these lings, no?
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Wow, if Neeb takes this, a foreigner is making it to the Ro8. That's kinda cool.
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On August 15 2018 21:14 neutralrobot wrote: Wow, if Neeb takes this, a foreigner is making it to the Ro8. That's kinda cool. Neeb/Reynor basically = Naniwa
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On August 15 2018 20:57 Shellshock wrote: Hopefully Reynor doesn't fall to the rematch curse. Definitely looked top 2 of the group so far
it's gonna be EU vs NA and we all know, EU is light years ahead of NA. No bias
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On August 15 2018 21:16 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 21:14 neutralrobot wrote: Wow, if Neeb takes this, a foreigner is making it to the Ro8. That's kinda cool. Neeb/Reynor basically = Naniwa
what is Naniwa up to these days anyway?
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On August 15 2018 21:16 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 21:14 neutralrobot wrote: Wow, if Neeb takes this, a foreigner is making it to the Ro8. That's kinda cool. Neeb/Reynor basically = Naniwa
More like = Shura
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15 more roaches on the way at 10 minutes
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Impact reminds me of the infographic of Ret or whoever it was from WoL, "When opponent does A through Z, make roaches".
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On August 15 2018 21:17 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 20:57 Shellshock wrote: Hopefully Reynor doesn't fall to the rematch curse. Definitely looked top 2 of the group so far it's gonna be EU vs NA and we all know, EU is light years ahead of NA. No bias actually they're more like 8.4 x 10^-10km ahead of NA
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On August 15 2018 21:19 Noonius wrote: hilarious storms. Terran should have storms should be able to build a satellite to help launch nukes without having to use a ghost
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How did impact even get ro16? 0.o
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On August 15 2018 21:08 Kommander wrote: Man, Artosis is screwing over players with his predictions
Maru making is out is a given so Artosis is a genius using his curse to get a foreigner ro8
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Soooo Impact is supposed to be the 4th/5th best Zerg in KR?
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On August 15 2018 21:18 shabby wrote: Impact reminds me of the infographic of Ret or whoever it was from WoL, "When opponent does A through Z, make roaches". Mondragon Ret made drones no matter what
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On August 15 2018 21:20 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 21:19 Noonius wrote: hilarious storms. Terran should have storms should be able to build a satellite to help launch nukes without having to use a ghost
I actually like this idea
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Neeb is styling on Impact. Expected him to win, but not this easily.
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On August 15 2018 21:20 darklycid wrote: How did impact even get ro16? 0.o byun and zest are ez
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I actually LB'd Impact, MISTAKES WERE MADE
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Impact really not belonging in Ro16.
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On August 15 2018 21:20 Kommander wrote: Soooo Impact is supposed to be the 4th/5th best Zerg in KR?
Pretty much...less Leenock is actually back but it's too soon to tell
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On August 15 2018 21:18 shabby wrote: Impact reminds me of the infographic of Ret or whoever it was from WoL, "When opponent does A through Z, make roaches". It was Mondragon.
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O shit! foreigner vs foreigner for the last spot!
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On August 15 2018 21:22 Keeemy wrote: I actually LB'd Impact, MISTAKES WERE MADE I mean I think a lot of people just picked Koreans to advance
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On August 15 2018 21:10 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 21:08 Durnuu wrote:On August 15 2018 21:08 brickrd wrote: so... impact didn't know that was coming? did he overlord scout the main? he just kind of instantly died to a standard protoss build Can't overlord scout the 8 gates vs a stargate opener i suppose you normally can't, but that build has been meta for so long that it's a surprising gamble for impact to just have no units Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 21:09 blooblooblahblah wrote:On August 15 2018 21:08 brickrd wrote: so... impact didn't know that was coming? did he overlord scout the main? he just kind of instantly died to a standard protoss build lol 8 gate is not a standard build at all but yes it is quite hard to scout 8 gate chargelot archon is not standard in pvz? i dunno what i've been watching for the last few months then? 6gate archon chargelot
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watching impact aggressively stutter step roach hydra rav toward neeb's exposed immortals while the rest of the army was sitting half a screen behind them and seeing the immortals literally take no damage was pretty funny
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Neeb vs Reynor will be great match... hopefully.
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Artosis Curse claims another victim
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On August 15 2018 21:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Neeb is styling on Impact. Expected him to win, but not this easily. Neeb is really good in standard games. His weakness is when his opponents are aggressive and take control of the game. Neeb just kinda overdefends and never does anything to his opponent
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On August 15 2018 21:20 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 21:18 shabby wrote: Impact reminds me of the infographic of Ret or whoever it was from WoL, "When opponent does A through Z, make roaches". Mondragon Ret made drones no matter what
Yeah thats it.
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On August 15 2018 21:22 virpi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 21:18 shabby wrote: Impact reminds me of the infographic of Ret or whoever it was from WoL, "When opponent does A through Z, make roaches". It was Mondragon. and there was 1 non roach entry which was build hatcheries to counter phoenixes
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Perfectly set up for Dark to 3-0 Reynor in ro8
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Same here. I Liquid Bet Impact but I expected the foreigners he faces to win, and boy they did. To be honest Neeb did better than what Zest did when he fought Impact in the Ro32.
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Poll: Who will advance?Reynor (17) 53% Neeb (15) 47% 32 total votes Your vote: Who will advance? (Vote): Neeb (Vote): Reynor
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LB Maru Neeb, but hoping Maru Reynor
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Foreigner in ro8 hype hope it’s Reynor he actually looks like he could compete more with the top Koreans than Neeb
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Dark and Zest must be feeling pretty bad about their respective picks in the group nominations when Impact was up for grabs all along. Granted, he does play much better online, but Neeb had an easier time winning those games than he did against Losira.
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I think Neeb beats Reynor. But then again, they are teamhouse partners so we could be in for a really interesting series of mindgames. Then again, Neeb hasn't mind gamed in a long time so never mind
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There is still an American hope for today. Just be careful of the lings ambush.
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LB'd Maru and Neeb hopefully I'm right
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If neeb goes to ro8 i fear the massive hype he's gonna get.
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On August 15 2018 21:27 darklycid wrote: If neeb goes to ro8 i fear the massive hype he's gonna get.
Shame, because he plays group B's first which very well could be....Dark.
Really I don't think Neeb can beat any of them in a GSL bo5. Maybe Rogue...
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I give this like a 0.01% chance of happening, but if Neeb wins GSL this season, will he jump over Serral in the foreigner rankings?
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On August 15 2018 21:27 darklycid wrote: If neeb goes to ro8 i fear the massive hype he's gonna get. Neeb is gonna get wrecked in the ro8, though I hope he makes it. He just has too big of a weakness to cheese and aggressive strats to win. I want to see him either fix that weakness or go for like proxy gate levels of aggression so he can actually take control of the game like he wants to. It seems Protoss kind of has to yield to aggression from other races with most builds even if they intend to be aggressive
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On August 15 2018 21:31 Kommander wrote: I give this like a 0.01% chance of happening, but if Neeb wins GSL this season, will he jump over Serral in the foreigner rankings? until Serral wins Blizzcon
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On August 15 2018 21:30 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 21:27 darklycid wrote: If neeb goes to ro8 i fear the massive hype he's gonna get. Shame, because he plays group B's first which very well could be....Dark. Really I don't think Neeb can beat any of them in a GSL bo5. Maybe Rogue...
Neeb’s run ends here or ro8 but feel like if everything ends his way Reynor could get top 4 at least, he’s beaten classic and he had Maru on the ropes already
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On August 15 2018 21:27 darklycid wrote: If neeb goes to ro8 i fear the massive hype he's gonna get.
Considering his run of form over the past 3 months, I think he really needs it
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On August 15 2018 21:31 Kommander wrote: I give this like a 0.01% chance of happening, but if Neeb wins GSL this season, will he jump over Serral in the foreigner rankings? Yes, because I'd be very surprised if he didn't win Montreal as well if he did that well. I'd love to see a Serral, Neeb, Showtime, Special top 4 in WCS. Heck the Neeb Showtime rivalry was really good, but right now Showtime is pretty clearly on top
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If I win WCS Montreal, will I take over Serral as #1 foreigner?
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On August 15 2018 21:27 darklycid wrote: If neeb goes to ro8 i fear the massive hype he's gonna get.
Unlikely since he will have to face the top guy from Group B, and the chance of him beating anyone from that group is quite slim.
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On August 15 2018 21:34 Ej_ wrote: If I win WCS Montreal, will I take over Serral as #1 foreigner? I would have you #2 Polish zerg ahead of Nerchio but behind Elazer
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it's so tilting when you try to do that probe walk micro against ling harass and it fails, and it just happened to neeb 3 times
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On August 15 2018 21:35 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 21:34 Ej_ wrote: If I win WCS Montreal, will I take over Serral as #1 foreigner? I would have you #2 Polish zerg ahead of Nerchio but behind Elazer Not worth it then, I won't be attending.
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On August 15 2018 21:14 neutralrobot wrote: Wow, if Neeb takes this, a foreigner is making it to the Ro8. That's kinda cool. But its not Serral, so its just hopeless.
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On August 15 2018 21:35 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 21:34 Ej_ wrote: If I win WCS Montreal, will I take over Serral as #1 foreigner? I would have you #2 Polish zerg ahead of Nerchio but behind Elazer What if he wins over the double, back-to-back LRSL champion Durn?
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On August 15 2018 21:38 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 21:35 Shellshock wrote:On August 15 2018 21:34 Ej_ wrote: If I win WCS Montreal, will I take over Serral as #1 foreigner? I would have you #2 Polish zerg ahead of Nerchio but behind Elazer What if he wins over the double, back-to-back LRSL champion Durn? Luolis is my true champion in my heart
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Neeb and Adepts in PvZ, name a more iconic duo.
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On August 15 2018 21:38 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Neeb, the adept ninja i know that zerg feel when you see adepts shading onto a mineral line, you have a ling surround ready to go, and you still lose all your lings and 7 drones
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On August 15 2018 21:39 Kommander wrote: Neeb and Adepts in PvZ, name a more iconic duo. idra and hallucinated void rays?
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Terran players and being more talented.
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On August 15 2018 21:39 Kommander wrote: Neeb and Adepts in PvZ, name a more iconic duo. Inca and DT in Pv
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On August 15 2018 21:40 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 21:39 Kommander wrote: Neeb and Adepts in PvZ, name a more iconic duo. idra and hallucinated void rays?
Oooooh touché
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Neeb has this easy. He looked really good in this game. If Neeb gets to play his game he's so good. Reynor really needs to put Neeb on the back foot
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On August 15 2018 21:39 Kommander wrote: Neeb and Adepts in PvZ, name a more iconic duo. protoss and F2 a
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go go neeb. Let make American dream comes true.
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On August 15 2018 21:41 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 21:39 Kommander wrote: Neeb and Adepts in PvZ, name a more iconic duo. Inca and DT in Pv
I concede
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Neeb's PvZ still looks deadly.
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Boy, Classic's PvZ is really crap lol
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On August 15 2018 21:43 Kommander wrote: Boy, Classic's PvZ is really crap lol Neeb is just really good when he can play his own game. Of course Neeb does the same opening every game and can be really predictable, but after like 6 minutes when he can start diverging he's really good
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On August 15 2018 21:44 Parrek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 21:43 Kommander wrote: Boy, Classic's PvZ is really crap lol Neeb is just really good when he can play his own game. Of course Neeb does the same opening every game and can be really predictable, but after like 6 minutes he's really good yeah i always see neeb as more of a lategame god. he's not BAD in the early game, but if i were his opponent i would get more and more scared the longer the game goes and the more tech he has. didn't he beat Dark's lategame zerg spore forest with skytoss a couple of times?
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On August 15 2018 21:45 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 21:44 Parrek wrote:On August 15 2018 21:43 Kommander wrote: Boy, Classic's PvZ is really crap lol Neeb is just really good when he can play his own game. Of course Neeb does the same opening every game and can be really predictable, but after like 6 minutes he's really good yeah i always see neeb as more of a lategame god. he's not BAD in the early game, but if i were his opponent i would get more and more scared the longer the game goes and the more tech he has. didn't he beat Dark's lategame zerg spore forest with skytoss a couple of times? Rogue Neeb has yet to take a map from Dark
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Did Tastosis forget about Jinro?
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On August 15 2018 21:45 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 21:44 Parrek wrote:On August 15 2018 21:43 Kommander wrote: Boy, Classic's PvZ is really crap lol Neeb is just really good when he can play his own game. Of course Neeb does the same opening every game and can be really predictable, but after like 6 minutes he's really good yeah i always see neeb as more of a lategame god. he's not BAD in the early game, but if i were his opponent i would get more and more scared the longer the game goes and the more tech he has. didn't he beat Dark's lategame zerg spore forest with skytoss a couple of times? He's not BAD, but he has very clear weaknesses there and is very easily abused by anyone who knows a thing about Neeb. The fact Reynor is trying to play straight up is why he's going to lose here
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On August 15 2018 21:42 Weavel wrote: Neeb's PvZ still looks deadly.
Well, hope he makes out of this group first and meet either dark or rogue in the semi-finals? He does has a shot against Rogue I think given their past results but Dark just knows how to humiliate him.
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On August 15 2018 21:47 Kommander wrote: Did Tastosis forget about Jinro? Who?
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On August 15 2018 21:46 AzAlexZ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 21:45 brickrd wrote:On August 15 2018 21:44 Parrek wrote:On August 15 2018 21:43 Kommander wrote: Boy, Classic's PvZ is really crap lol Neeb is just really good when he can play his own game. Of course Neeb does the same opening every game and can be really predictable, but after like 6 minutes he's really good yeah i always see neeb as more of a lategame god. he's not BAD in the early game, but if i were his opponent i would get more and more scared the longer the game goes and the more tech he has. didn't he beat Dark's lategame zerg spore forest with skytoss a couple of times? Rogue Neeb has yet to take a map from Dark Hey, he took a map in anonymous
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neeb's army is mass phoenix/immortal, is he channeling the spirit of RotterdaM playing PvP?
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On August 15 2018 21:49 D-light wrote:Who? a man so beloved it even caused TL to briefly hate Polt to defend Jinro's honor
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On August 15 2018 21:51 brickrd wrote: neeb's army is mass phoenix/immortal, is he channeling the spirit of RotterdaM playing PvP? The best air to air unit and the best ground to ground unit.
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Reynor almost advanced by destroying Maru and will now lose to neeb :x
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On August 15 2018 21:52 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 21:51 brickrd wrote: neeb's army is mass phoenix/immortal, is he channeling the spirit of RotterdaM playing PvP? The best air to air unit and the best ground to ground unit. bring back flux vanes void ray
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On August 15 2018 21:52 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 21:49 D-light wrote:On August 15 2018 21:47 Kommander wrote: Did Tastosis forget about Jinro? Who? a man so beloved it even caused TL to briefly hate Polt to defend Jinro's honor
LOL
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Those shield batteries saved Neeb there Holy shit
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Looks like reynor is gonna have to spend his autumn making pasta while Neeb turns the GSL into glorious pizza
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Reynor's hydras have no upgrades
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On August 15 2018 21:53 Nerchio wrote: Reynor almost advanced by destroying Maru and will now lose to neeb :x IS NEEB THE BEST FOREIGNER OF ALL TIME
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On August 15 2018 21:52 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 21:51 brickrd wrote: neeb's army is mass phoenix/immortal, is he channeling the spirit of RotterdaM playing PvP? The best air to air unit and the best ground to ground unit. we're back in early LOTV and nerchio is having a stroke. mass immortal
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On August 15 2018 21:55 Keeemy wrote: Jeeeesus that's a lot of immortals I think he could use a few more
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"The complexity of his army" - 9 immortals 1 archon. Only protoss
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On August 15 2018 21:55 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 21:52 Ej_ wrote:On August 15 2018 21:51 brickrd wrote: neeb's army is mass phoenix/immortal, is he channeling the spirit of RotterdaM playing PvP? The best air to air unit and the best ground to ground unit. we're back in early LOTV and nerchio is having a stroke. mass immortal Now we only need Nerchio to say "korean zergs lol"
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On August 15 2018 21:55 Kommander wrote: Did Reynor forget to research range attack?
Where are any of his upgrades tbh
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On August 15 2018 21:55 Kommander wrote: Did Reynor forget to research range attack?
You dont prioritize ranged attack when you go hydras
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Oh man we're gonna get Neeb vs Dark in the ro8 aren't we
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I can't believe Artosis fucking died
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Neeb is pretty good, who woulda thought
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That push center map is nuts!!!!!!!!
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Poor Reynor, so close to getting out in first place.
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360° surround... who cares.
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Back to back NA ro8
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NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEB!!! Thank you!
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Yay for an American making it through to ro8
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Dark, Gumi, INno, or Rogue awaiting Neeb
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Thought that last part was gonna be closer than that, but then the immortals came outta nowhere haha
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Best translator hell yeah
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Reynoru
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That series was so satisfying to watch from a protoss perspective. Perfect defense. He was in total control.
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On August 15 2018 22:01 Inflicted wrote: Back to back NA ro8 ??? Enlighten me on which foreigner made it ito the Ro8 in Season 2
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Neeb has confidence in the mid game and I agree with him. The problem is his early game defense is so bad he can never get there
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On August 15 2018 22:02 Odoakar wrote: It's really sad that we have a ro8 player who just lost in such an embarrassing way to Maru Last season there was someone in the finals who almost did the same
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On August 15 2018 22:02 Odoakar wrote: It's really sad that we have a ro8 player who just lost in such an embarrassing way to Maru Is it not embarrassing the amount of time Maru proxies his opponents? I fully support winning at all costs, but it does get exhausting watching Maru proxy zergs so consistently.
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Neeb is officially Korean!
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On August 15 2018 22:08 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 22:02 Odoakar wrote: It's really sad that we have a ro8 player who just lost in such an embarrassing way to Maru Is it not embarrassing the amount of time Maru proxies his opponents? I fully support winning at all costs, but it does get exhausting watching Maru proxy zergs so consistently. I guarantee Maru wouldn't do it every time if it didn't work every time.
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On August 15 2018 22:08 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 22:02 Odoakar wrote: It's really sad that we have a ro8 player who just lost in such an embarrassing way to Maru Is it not embarrassing the amount of time Maru proxies his opponents? I fully support winning at all costs, but it does get exhausting watching Maru proxy zergs so consistently. Maru has been proxying almost everybody for years. And he still wins games with it.
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The translator is very good, isn't he? I can't say if he translates properly but it sure feels like it.
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On August 15 2018 22:10 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Neeb is officially Korean! He's very very Korean.
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On August 15 2018 22:11 HolydaKing wrote:The translator is very good, isn't he? I can't say if he translates properly but it sure feels like it. He has the Waxangel seal of approval.
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On August 15 2018 22:12 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 22:11 HolydaKing wrote:The translator is very good, isn't he? I can't say if he translates properly but it sure feels like it. He has the Waxangel seal of approval.
I wouldn't go that far; I would never compliment anyone intentionally ;o
(except maybe GuMiho?)
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On August 15 2018 22:10 virpi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 22:08 BisuDagger wrote:On August 15 2018 22:02 Odoakar wrote: It's really sad that we have a ro8 player who just lost in such an embarrassing way to Maru Is it not embarrassing the amount of time Maru proxies his opponents? I fully support winning at all costs, but it does get exhausting watching Maru proxy zergs so consistently. Maru has been proxying almost everybody for years. And he still wins games with it. I'm not saying it isn't effective. Life did the same thing with roach-ling allins for years too. Although I consider Maru's 2-rax to be more abusive.
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GSL tastosis roach v roach in supreme courts
GSL tastelss "i think - problem with sound"
GSL cheers gogo baby congratz kim + vince SC Esports / Go Reynor
GSL tastosis "quality - good enough" / in the age of 16 i was silver
GSL cheer from djwaters22 diablo youtuber
GSL honeymoon GSL
GSL tastosis caster dysmorphia
GSL tastosis roache settlement
GSL bald happy guy and audience
GSL tastosis Tastelss > Michael Bay
GSL tasteless reynor anime style
GSL cheer lets go maru
GSL the world strikes back maru has no chance against european zerg - big audience
GSL tastosis sports delays
GSL artosis water park - tastless is a witch
GSL artosis alphabet backwards
GSL artosis showing off
GSL tastosis drinks
GSL tastosis pauses devils angles
GSL tastosis conspiracy theory
GSL tastosis foreigner zergs
GSL Artosis water vapour & curvature of the earth
GSL artosis reptilians r real
GSL Artosis monty python
GSL Maru interview
GSL tastosis fist and arm of neeb
GSL Neeb interview
GSL tastosis can't grow gills
GLS tasteless russia is in european continent
GSL Tasteless is wrong
GSL tastosis waterworld
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On August 15 2018 22:11 HolydaKing wrote:The translator is very good, isn't he? I can't say if he translates properly but it sure feels like it. Yeah feels like he takes his time to explain everything that was said. Usual translators shorten everything to few sentences.
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On August 15 2018 22:08 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 22:02 Odoakar wrote: It's really sad that we have a ro8 player who just lost in such an embarrassing way to Maru Is it not embarrassing the amount of time Maru proxies his opponents? I fully support winning at all costs, but it does get exhausting watching Maru proxy zergs so consistently. embarrassing for whom? if you mean embarrassing for the metagame, maybe a little bit? people have different opinions on cheesy builds being used constantly. but if you mean embarrassing for maru, certainly not at all, not ever
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neeb look really solid in PvZ, idk what's going with Maru losing that 2/1/1 game vs Reynor, getting the goat award seems to be getting out of reach for him a little bit.
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one reason y maru is proxying so often is, that he has superior micro+multitasking to pretty much everyone. to a lot of players he can only loose by getting blindsided by something. so why take that risk? as long as he can dictate the game he's fine. for sure not the most exciting way, but he's a pro.
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i think you guys are missing the point
maru wins even if proxyt fails LuL
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On August 15 2018 23:06 IshinShishi wrote: neeb look really solid in PvZ, idk what's going with Maru losing that 2/1/1 game vs Reynor, getting the goat award seems to be getting out of reach for him a little bit. 2/1/1 isn't a great build, not anymore anyway. Maru beat Rogue with it last season and that's the last I've seen it do much.
Besides it doesn't really matter when you win the match overall. Maru played sloppily against Keen, Zanster, Patience etc in groups earlier in the year, but he still gets the trophy at the end.
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Not really sure why some people counted Neeb out of this group. Not craazy unexpected results.. Maru definitely looked vulnerable against Reynor, but we'll see how he does in Ro8. Hoping for Maru vs Stats and sOs vs Neeb personally.
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On August 15 2018 23:20 Soularion wrote: Not really sure why some people counted Neeb out of this group. Not craazy unexpected results.. Maru definitely looked vulnerable against Reynor, but we'll see how he does in Ro8. Hoping for Maru vs Stats and sOs vs Neeb personally. It's A vs B and C vs D.
Expected results, no big surprises to be found today.
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Thank you for doing this! This is much appreciated!
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GSL map pools get even more nonsensical with every passing season and round.
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On August 15 2018 22:11 D-light wrote:He's very very Korean.
I can't even remember what is face look like, that's how korean he is!
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I'm actually afraid one thing and it's getting more and more real. Terran is not fun. Tell me please... what's opening is good today vs P and vs Z. I'm just curious what is the sum of number builds... Like 2-1-1 is a dead build. 1-1-1 into 4 hellions and 2rax proxy? What are options?
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On August 15 2018 23:28 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 23:20 Soularion wrote: Not really sure why some people counted Neeb out of this group. Not craazy unexpected results.. Maru definitely looked vulnerable against Reynor, but we'll see how he does in Ro8. Hoping for Maru vs Stats and sOs vs Neeb personally. It's A vs B and C vs D. Expected results, no big surprises to be found today. Really? That's lame. Rooting for Neeb/Rogue and Maru/Dark then.
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On August 15 2018 23:48 dummy1 wrote: I'm actually afraid one thing and it's getting more and more real. Terran is not fun. Tell me please... what's opening is good today vs P and vs Z. I'm just curious what is the sum of number builds... Like 2-1-1 is a dead build. 1-1-1 into 4 hellions and 2rax proxy? What are options? If you wanna play like Maru then failed 2rax into macro game.
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On August 15 2018 23:20 Soularion wrote: Not really sure why some people counted Neeb out of this group. Not craazy unexpected results.. Maru definitely looked vulnerable against Reynor, but we'll see how he does in Ro8. Hoping for Maru vs Stats and sOs vs Neeb personally. Yeah, I mean, I expected the slapdown by Maru, but the two Zergs didn't really have the chops to beat Neeb. Or at least not the confidence required to play the no respect cheese style that Neeb easily crumbles to
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On August 15 2018 23:54 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2018 23:48 dummy1 wrote: I'm actually afraid one thing and it's getting more and more real. Terran is not fun. Tell me please... what's opening is good today vs P and vs Z. I'm just curious what is the sum of number builds... Like 2-1-1 is a dead build. 1-1-1 into 4 hellions and 2rax proxy? What are options? If you wanna play like Maru then failed 2rax into macro game. Make a t-shirt with that...
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TvZ seems super hard outside of 2rax. I betted for Maru Neeb, thankfully Maru didn’t lose to Reynor...
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Just glad reynor is out. Theres too many foreigner zergs
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All Zerg players lost and yet still people whine about Zerg here
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On August 16 2018 00:28 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: All Zerg players lost and yet still people whine about Zerg here
but zerg just won a tournament, and the last wcs, and the last last wcs, and the last last last wcs
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I think Reynor has great potential, but he was kinda hyped a bit too much over his win vs Classic, who is known for his notoriously subpar PvZ. On the other hand, Neeb has shown that he eats Zergs not named Dark or Serral for breakfast.
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On August 16 2018 00:54 Kommander wrote: I think Reynor has great potential, but he was kinda hyped a bit too much over his win vs Classic, who is known for his notoriously subpar PvZ. On the other hand, Neeb has shown that he eats Zergs not named Dark or Serral for breakfast. Or Silky
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Just watched the vod, man that Game 2 of Maru vs Reynor was heartbreaking.
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On August 16 2018 00:28 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: All Zerg players lost and yet still people whine about Zerg here Reynor almost 2-0ed Maru. Impact is bad for a korean, it was kinda expected that Neeb or Reynor would win
I went for Neeb since he has a lot more experience
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I like Reynor since I'm a zerg player myself. But I feel Neeb would have beaten him bc Neeb has so much more experience. Game 2 really show Neeb depth of knowing the game as an experienced player. Neeb was always a step ahead in unit compositions.
Reynor has a lot of potential but he is still young. It's exciting to see his game play a few years down the line
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On August 16 2018 01:23 TheDougler wrote: Just watched the vod, man that Game 2 of Maru vs Reynor was heartbreaking. It was scary awesome at the same time. The way maru switched to mech was clinical. He pressured with the banshees while defending with Thors and then added tanks and liberators. Once those liberators put circles in front of the thors his army suddenly became invincible to Reynor's tech.
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On August 16 2018 00:29 Obamarauder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 00:28 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: All Zerg players lost and yet still people whine about Zerg here but zerg just won a tournament, and the last wcs, and the last last wcs, and the last last last wcs It's GSL, Terran won last one, and the last last GSL, and the last last last GSL, and the last last last last GSL, but not the the last last last last last GSL but the last last last last last last GSL too.
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At this point proxy 2rax has be considered a standard build that you need to be safe against, no?
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On August 09 2018 02:14 Yonnua wrote: Actually, Neeb is going to win GSL which will really confuse all the Serral fans/antifans.
Step one complete.
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On August 16 2018 02:39 Aunvilgodess wrote: At this point proxy 2rax has be considered a standard build that you need to be safe against, no?
It's Maru. You always prepare for a 2 rax vs Maru.
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On August 16 2018 03:57 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 02:39 Aunvilgodess wrote: At this point proxy 2rax has be considered a standard build that you need to be safe against, no? It's Maru. You always prepare for a 2 rax vs Maru.
yes but nobody actually does, otherwise he wouldn't win with it this much.
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On August 16 2018 05:49 Aunvilgodess wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 03:57 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 16 2018 02:39 Aunvilgodess wrote: At this point proxy 2rax has be considered a standard build that you need to be safe against, no? It's Maru. You always prepare for a 2 rax vs Maru. yes but nobody actually does, otherwise he wouldn't win with it this much. Yeah, why don't those professional players prepare?!
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On August 16 2018 05:56 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 05:49 Aunvilgodess wrote:On August 16 2018 03:57 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 16 2018 02:39 Aunvilgodess wrote: At this point proxy 2rax has be considered a standard build that you need to be safe against, no? It's Maru. You always prepare for a 2 rax vs Maru. yes but nobody actually does, otherwise he wouldn't win with it this much. Yeah, why don't those professional players prepare?! too busy playing LoL
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On August 16 2018 06:06 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 05:56 Ej_ wrote:On August 16 2018 05:49 Aunvilgodess wrote:On August 16 2018 03:57 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 16 2018 02:39 Aunvilgodess wrote: At this point proxy 2rax has be considered a standard build that you need to be safe against, no? It's Maru. You always prepare for a 2 rax vs Maru. yes but nobody actually does, otherwise he wouldn't win with it this much. Yeah, why don't those professional players prepare?! too busy playing LoL
Is that still a thing?
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On August 16 2018 06:11 JoeCool wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 06:06 Shellshock wrote:On August 16 2018 05:56 Ej_ wrote:On August 16 2018 05:49 Aunvilgodess wrote:On August 16 2018 03:57 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 16 2018 02:39 Aunvilgodess wrote: At this point proxy 2rax has be considered a standard build that you need to be safe against, no? It's Maru. You always prepare for a 2 rax vs Maru. yes but nobody actually does, otherwise he wouldn't win with it this much. Yeah, why don't those professional players prepare?! too busy playing LoL Is that still a thing? I think they're all playing Fortnite now
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On August 16 2018 05:56 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 05:49 Aunvilgodess wrote:On August 16 2018 03:57 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 16 2018 02:39 Aunvilgodess wrote: At this point proxy 2rax has be considered a standard build that you need to be safe against, no? It's Maru. You always prepare for a 2 rax vs Maru. yes but nobody actually does, otherwise he wouldn't win with it this much. Yeah, why don't those professional players prepare?!
In all seriousness, it doesn't seem like the meta has not quite adapted somehow. The winrate of 2rax is so much higher than it should be...
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On August 16 2018 05:56 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 05:49 Aunvilgodess wrote:On August 16 2018 03:57 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 16 2018 02:39 Aunvilgodess wrote: At this point proxy 2rax has be considered a standard build that you need to be safe against, no? It's Maru. You always prepare for a 2 rax vs Maru. yes but nobody actually does, otherwise he wouldn't win with it this much. Yeah, why don't those professional players prepare?!
They probably do, but preparing a 2rax in practice is a lot different than facing it from Maru.
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Artosis mentioning he can't see the curvature of the earth while Tasteless says the moon landings are fake. great comedy mixed with great analysis covering a great night of Sc2.
just to add to the stuff tastosis mentioned ... Maru has created the most sophisticated hacking scheme in the history of the video game genre. There are 100+ guys living in a secret basement somewhere secretly individually controlling every Terran unit Maru makes. This explains why Maru's micro appears to be so good.
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How were the games? Maru Reynor worth watching?
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On August 16 2018 12:47 KingofdaHipHop wrote: How were the games? Maru Reynor worth watching? yes the Maru//Reynor series was very good.
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On August 16 2018 12:54 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2018 12:47 KingofdaHipHop wrote: How were the games? Maru Reynor worth watching? yes the Maru//Reynor series was very good. probably the only one worth watching unless you want to see the hilarious neeb maru series
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Shit, almost the worst possible result.
Foreigner 1v1, cheese winning and im still believe that Reynor is stronger than Neeb.
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great games by Reynor, really sad he didnt make it but Neeb also played super good. nice to see a foreigner in ro8, gl Neeb!
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