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autoexec
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On January 22 2014 09:13 Najda wrote: I remember reading an article recently about how high fructose corn syrup gets a bad reputation for no real reason and has identical chemical makeup to regular sugar. I tried looking for where I read this information and I'll edit it if I can find it, so I have no idea how reputable the information was or if I'm even remembering it right. If I remember right, It's got a higher percentage of fructose relative to glucose than "normal" sugar, which is the major difference - hence the name. Fructose is metabolized through a slightly different pathway, with some slightly less desirable side-products. Its negative effects as far as weightlifting are concerned mostly deal with the fact that it doesn't restore muscle glycogen, only liver glycogen, so it's pretty much the most empty calorie you can get. That's really all there is to it. Again, this is if I'm remembering right... last time I looked this all up was in that 2 year ago period where everything is starting to get a bit hazy. | ||
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I just find it easiest to drink some coffee and have a shake/banana ready for afterwards. | ||
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On January 27 2014 18:24 SoleSteeler wrote: Thanks for the breakfast responses all. I like my protein shake because it has caffeine, it's absorbed quickly (right?) into my body so I don't have to wait to digest very long, and it's not "nothing"; I like having something in my body when I work out, especially since I don't really eat after around 7:00 PM; that's about 14 hours fasted from the night before (with sleeping) which I'd prefer not to do. If it's a weigh shake dissolved in water, and you use one scoop it likely takes around 3 hours to be fully digested and absorbed. Much longer if it's casein or you have it in milk. If you're looking for something that's absorbed quickly before your workout, have bcaa's with some kind of very simple carb (juice, or even just some kind of powder). | ||
SoleSteeler
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It's just regular old whey with water. I definitely don't and will never need a weight gainer shake. | ||
phyre112
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On January 31 2014 13:21 SoleSteeler wrote: I've considered getting some BCAAs for the morning, yeah. Maybe I will try it. I remember reading about that on the leangains website. It's just regular old whey with water. I definitely don't and will never need a weight gainer shake. I meant to type "Whey" not "weigh" - I have no idea how fast weight gainer shakes are absorbed, and I'd say it's impossible to predict, considering there is no real standardization to their makeup. | ||
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SjPhotoGrapher wrote: The foods on the lowest end of the food chain are also the most mineral dense and healthiest foods to eat which are the fruits, nuts, seeds, grains, legumes, etc. You have to remember, the foods that come directly from earth are of the highest quality so getting your Omega's and CoQ10 a long with other enzymes is much better from vegetables than meat since you're not ingesting all of the waste that the meat has in it As long as you have the funds and access to a wide variety of fruits/veggies/nuts/grains and can tolerate not eating meat, I'm sure your body would thank you in the long run. This is a general nutrition thread anyway, not everyone here is about body building. I personally try to avoid meat even though it tastes heavenly and so far so good. I've dropped a lot of fat but at the same time continue to do the same amount of cardio and lifts and well, it works for me, maybe others may like non-meat diets more. It's all personal preference on how you want to feel. Besides, meat acts as a carcinogen (or mutagen, I don't remember which exactly), but so does burnt toast ... On January 12 2014 16:21 IgnE wrote: Serious question SJP: would tigers live longer on a plant-based diet too? Wouldn't they be better off with "pure" plant foods that don't have fats or cholesterol? If tigers could eat almonds.... and a lot of them. | ||
XXXSmOke
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On January 11 2014 15:12 Catch wrote: Doctors have no place giving solid nutritional advice. Cardiologists either, as far as I know. If you were even around the medical field at all, you would know this. The only thing to trust are studies, and even then very carefully. The human body is a science. If you're not going to post scientific material, then your argument has no base. Simply saying "40-50% longer" has no merit. Lets see the studies that say that. Lets see the studies that say animal protein is bad, cholesterol is bad, greens are the end all be all. Lets see recent ones (5 years maximum). I don't see why you are still arguing. You obviously don't want to change your mind or at least look at the evidence. Ieatkids posted 10+ studies, while you rely on here-say, one of the most dangerous routes to take in the medical field. The problem is most studies are now funded by the food companies........ Real honest right????? | ||
ieatkids5
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On February 01 2014 09:58 randommuch wrote: While he may have spewed mostly crap, he did have at least one point I think everyone should realize. As long as you have the funds and access to a wide variety of fruits/veggies/nuts/grains and can tolerate not eating meat, I'm sure your body would thank you in the long run. This is a general nutrition thread anyway, not everyone here is about body building. I personally try to avoid meat even though it tastes heavenly and so far so good. I've dropped a lot of fat but at the same time continue to do the same amount of cardio and lifts and well, it works for me, maybe others may like non-meat diets more. It's all personal preference on how you want to feel. Besides, meat acts as a carcinogen (or mutagen, I don't remember which exactly), but so does burnt toast ... Do you have sources to back that up? There is a lot of evidence in the OP that suggests that eating a diet of non-processed meat in addition to the foods you mentioned is healthier than the same diet without the meat. On February 01 2014 10:36 XXXSmOke wrote: The problem is most studies are now funded by the food companies........ Real honest right????? That's why he said The only thing to trust are studies, and even then very carefully. | ||
randommuch
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On February 01 2014 11:15 ieatkids5 wrote: Do you have sources to back that up? There is a lot of evidence in the OP that suggests that eating a diet of non-processed meat in addition to the foods you mentioned is healthier than the same diet without the meat. That's why he said If you're referring to the carcinogens in meat I was lookin around on pubmed http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15199546 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24168237 As for specifically non-processed meats, my professor was ranting last week about a recent study showing evidence that even non-processed meats aint as great as we thought. I'll see if I can bug her about it and get the site. I think there's also something about heavy metals building up in animals, particularly the liver, (someone was talking earlier bout eating liver), that can cause toxicity issues in your later years. Not the U.S. but still, animals have issues getting rid certain things. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1687428512000040 Oh, and the burnt toast thing. http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/acrylamide-in-food Or just google acrylamide. Cancer and toxicity issues aren't quick killers so in all honesty you should really eat what makes you feel good, sort of the point I was making earlier but I was more speaking out of just personal experience with friends and myself. Some people feel a lot better when they are on non-meat diets . | ||
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