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Oghren .
Germany33 Posts
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fusefuse
Estonia4644 Posts
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rasnj
United States1959 Posts
On July 21 2013 00:18 Oghren . wrote: Now we have to play the waiting game and wait until Froome gets disqualified. If you watch the tour with that mentality, then why bother at all? AFAIK there is no real reason to suspect Froome has been doping apart from him having a good performance and having improved. If that is your mentality, then riders can only be either good and doped or bad and possibly doped. I don't like this trend of always crediting doping for results, let's just say that Froome is very strong unless something apart from performance points heavily towards doping. Team Sky (and Froome in particular) are closely watched all the time and it would be hard for them to carry out any significant doping operation. They are also in some sense the national British team and managed by someone who do not want to see British cycling be dragged through a doping scandal. | ||
Oghren .
Germany33 Posts
Team Sky (and Froome in particular) are closely watched all the time and it would be hard for them to carry out any significant doping operation. Orly? And Armstrong wasn't watched closely??? Its just a question of who has the faster development of technology. Dopers or Anti-Dopers. | ||
DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
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fusefuse
Estonia4644 Posts
And as he lives pretty high up there in Columbia, I guess the conditions were what he stayed there for But its fun conspiring isn't it Because if they don't get dragged down you can still remain suspicious But if they do, you can run around yelling I KNEW IT What a fun way to follow sports | ||
rasnj
United States1959 Posts
On July 21 2013 01:47 Oghren . wrote: Orly? And Armstrong wasn't watched closely??? Its just a question of who has the faster development of technology. Dopers or Anti-Dopers. I'm not saying it is impossible or even unlikely, but they are certainly watched very closely. Overall I would guess riders today are tested more thoroughly than in Armstrong's era, but I wasn't watching cycling then and am not an insider in any cycling organization so don't really know. From what I hear team Sky are followed by a journalist who has access to medical staff and would love to write about doping, and they have released data on Froome that people who are knowledgeable about the matter have not deemed likely to be doctored or indicative of doping. In any case I would never argue that I know whether or not Froome is doping. My point is more along the lines of how can you enjoy the tour if you label anyone who performs well a cheater? You cannot root for a winner, because how could he possibly win if not for doping? I could only really imagine enjoying the tour in one of three states: 1) Suspension of disbelief: I willingly ignore doping allegations, and instead act and feel as though everything is fair. 2) Belief that overall most riders are actually clean. 3) Belief that overall all riders are doping and therefore it is fair, even if it is illegal. | ||
MrMercuG
Netherlands2389 Posts
On July 21 2013 01:54 DaCruise wrote: I think Quintana is every bit as suspicious as Froome. He is 23 riding his first TDF ever and finishes second and he didnt participate in any races in the 2 months leading up to the tour, which is very uncommon. Also Froome showed moments of pain Quintana never did... + he is from Columbia. | ||
fusefuse
Estonia4644 Posts
coked up to his eyeballs? what exactly are you hinting at | ||
Twisted
Netherlands13552 Posts
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dragoonier
Germany154 Posts
Btw I think the scandels had an effect and there is a lot less doping now than during armstrong's domination but the top ten are probably still dopers. | ||
fusefuse
Estonia4644 Posts
or all of them | ||
Boblion
France8043 Posts
Missed it lol | ||
Gorsameth
Netherlands20759 Posts
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
On July 21 2013 05:00 Gorsameth wrote: So unless I missed it there is once again no penalties for riders intentionally obstructing another. Really a weak showing from the jury this tour. What did you expect when the rider making the foul was a frenchman? Not like the tour de france jury would penalize a frenchman. If Anton pushed him of the raid, he'd be thrown out of the tour. | ||
Agathon
France1505 Posts
On July 21 2013 05:18 Mithriel wrote: What did you expect when the rider making the foul was a frenchman? Not like the tour de france jury would penalize a frenchman. If Anton pushed him of the raid, he'd be thrown out of the tour. It doesn't work like this. The jury don't give penalties in this case if the rider who almost felt don't ask for it. If Anton didn't ask it, it's normal that the frenchman is not punished. It has nothing to do with the nationality. In any case, you're not thrown out of the tour unless you beat someone or dope. | ||
KarlKaliente
United States434 Posts
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Agathon
France1505 Posts
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fusefuse
Estonia4644 Posts
Sagan with a beard dyed green :D | ||
DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
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