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cLutZ
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17619057/miami-heat-clear-chris-bosh-return-failed-physical i wonder if the Heat found a lab that gives them the test results they want? if Bosh plays 10 or more games this year then his salary counts towards the 2017-18 cap. | ||
cLutZ
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JimmyJRaynor
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http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/more-hockey-players-being-diagnosed-with-blood-clots-than-ever-1.2976686 blood clots need to be treated on a case-by-case basis. some athletes can play for years with the risk of blood clots. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17642995/chris-bosh-career-miami-heat-likely-pat-riley-says from a salary cap perspective the Heat can remove Bosh's salary from taking up any cap space if Bosh does not return to the NBA until March. this is a good move by the Heat. This crap about how much Spoelstra loves Bosh and his family is a bunch of BS. | ||
Scarecrow
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JimmyJRaynor
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Shortly after the news broke that Bosh was done... Bosh thanked "Miami" but did not thank the "Miami Heat". the most likely scenario is not death. none of the elite athletes using blood thinners has died. the most likely scenario is this: Bosh goes on a cycled blood thinning protocol and this allows him to play 10 or 20 or 30 games. Then he has complications that show up on his blood tests and he has to quit like Pascal Dupuis had to quit. Meanwhile, Miami is on the hook for another year of salary on their cap. Also, they have a good part of their offensive scheme revolving around a guy who can't play half the year and in the playoffs. Miami is trying to avoid all this so they are just claiming its medically impossible for him to play. When really... its only improbable its not impossible. Its been done before at an elite level many times dating back to the 1980s with much more primitive protocols and testing than hematologists have at their disposal now. This is Pat "by any means necessary" Riley at work. Spoelstra is just following the Riley agenda by "loving" BOsh and his 5 kids as they tell him to GTFO. | ||
JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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On September 28 2016 23:30 JimmiC wrote: It could be that way. But treating your assumptions as facts is one of the reasons you are the worlds most annoying poster. there are zero assumptions its all backed up by the sources i've proviided and some logic. | ||
JimmiC
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"the most likely scenario is not death" Well heck if it's not the most likely go for it, why not let a guy who has made 100's of millions risk it all for some more. "none of the elite athletes using blood thinners has died." You're assuming they all had the same issues. Each medical issues especially involving blood clots is different. This is not a ACL injury it's a moving, living, changing part of your body. "the death red herring has already been exposed on pages 25 and 26 of this thread." Saying your write because you earlier wrote that you are right does not work. Because others have not died does not mean that it won't happen this time. Bosh is filming a documentary about him trying to get back, that should shed some light on it as he will probably release more of the medical information. But due to laws regarding privacy all you points comparing to other athletes are flawed assumptions assuming they have the same medical problem. They MAY be the same the MAY not be. You treating it like fact doesn't make it so. If he was medically cleared to play he would be playing he wasn't. Sure it's better for their cap situation to not have bosh play 20 games, it would also be better for him to play 82. But regardless if there is a legit chance he will die, like more then 1% the smart move is for him to call it a career. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
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On September 24 2016 06:46 JimmyJRaynor wrote: blood clots need to be treated on a case-by-case basis. some athletes can play for years with the risk of blood clots. i never commented on Bosh's case specifically, however, i provided a rebuttal to an incorrect generalization about how blood clots must be dealt with in 2016. the Miami Heat are pushing an overly simplified view in order to forward their agenda. The science is constantly evolving. Miami did a nice job of covering their asses by saying Bosh won`t play for them. The Miami Heat did not say Bosh will never play in the NBA again. Its a very good stance and a very carefully thought out position they`ve taken. Riley is good. Bosh is not in the same situation as a guy like Dennis Boyd or that Soccer player guy currently playing on blood thinners. These guys only play 1 or 2 times per week. He needs to be able to play 4 times a week and so far only a couple of NHL-ers have pulled that off long term. Most NHL-ers have short term success and fail long term and retire. They don't die because they are being so closely monitored with emergency medical staff on site. The low probability of success combined with constant uncertainty is enough for Riley to pull the plug on the Bosh comeback project. I'd do the exact same thing. Its been fun to watch the NBA, NBAPA, Riley and Bosh go at it these last few months. If you want to get angry/annoyed about it... have fun. me? I`m getting more popcorn and preparing for the next episode. | ||
JimmiC
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I'm not at all annoyed at the situation the annoying part is you. This last post is far better then the one I commented on because you are not drawing as concrete conclusions as you were in the previous post. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
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On September 29 2016 02:50 JimmiC wrote: Yes you posted that and I didn't respond because it wasn't wrong. What you posted next was so I did respond. Interesting how that works. I'm not at all annoyed at the situation the annoying part is you. This last post is far better then the one I commented on because you are not drawing as concrete conclusions as you were in the previous post. i never drew any conclusions.. its all probabilities. if you want to half-read my stuff have fun. | ||
JimmiC
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On September 29 2016 03:42 JimmyJRaynor wrote: also regarding whatshisface's "love" for Bosh and his 5 kids. any emotion is not provable. so the guy yammers on about how much he "loves" Bosh and his family as they cut him. the management person closest to the employee is the "nice guy" and the company Prez is the "dick faced total prick" who is making the decisions. while the "nice guy" can keep saying.. "hey man .. not my call .. i luv you like a brother, brother". that's why its BS. i never drew any conclusions.. its all probabilities. if you want to half-read my stuff have fun. And back to stupidity. Your whole first paragraph is pure assumption, based on either past shit that has happened to you or more likely how you treat others or would treat others. Thank you for reaffirming my other post, I'm glad I can count on the arrogant prick coming out every time. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
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Bosh just fired his long time agent Henry Thomas of CAA http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/09/28/report-chris-bosh-fires-agent/ so is Bosh a free agent? do the Heat have to waive him? what now? can Bosh go play in Europe? i wonder if Bosh thinks his agent is really a double-agent and gave the Heat too much info. or maybe Thomas is advising Bosh to retire and Bosh doesn't want to hear it. EDIT: Bosh can become a free agent February 9th... the Heat will waive him through the league and he is officially a free agent at that point. | ||
zulu_nation8
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JimmiC
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I agree with you. no team wants the PR nightmare of a player dying or even near dying on the court. Without 100% medical clearance no way a team is taking that risk. At this point it seams highly unlikely that in Bosh's case that is going to happen. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
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Short of any real evidence backing up Spoelstra's proclamations of love: Spoelstra "loves" Bosh about as Jerry Maguire "loves" that college QB ( Kushman?) in the Jerry Maguire movie. Its just BS to grease the skids on Bosh's exit so other players and free agents won't get mad at the Heat. now , onto head injuries. ya, so Brad Beal has his 2nd concussion in 9 months and every media outlet every where is calling it a "mild concussion". with all that's been discussed about head injuries you'd figure people would not throw around the term "mild concussion". its a BS term. its a concussion. full stop. If Beal has another concussion in 2016 I'd be concerned about the viability of his career. 3 concussions in 1 year is a recipe for disaster. Washington should seriously consider giving Beal the first 40 games off. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wizards-insider/wp/2016/09/29/bradley-beal-held-out-of-wizards-training-camp-practice-with-a-mild-concussion/ On September 29 2016 13:25 zulu_nation8 wrote: idk what we're arguing about but let's chill, Bosh is a very unique case, my guess is he won't step on an NBA court again. what i wonder is .. at this point today.. after the Heat physical and whatever it uncovered... is he on blood thinners for only 12 hours a day while playing/practising ball 2 hours a day? if he is and not developing complications he's got a shot at playing again. if he is on blood thinners almost all the time and practising basketball once every 2 weeks he is fooling himself. | ||
JimmiC
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On September 30 2016 12:00 JimmyJRaynor wrote: are there any photos of Spoelstra smiling with Bosh's family? has Spoelstra even met his kids? has Bosh ever made a public comment thanking Spoelstra for his support? like ever? if so... produce the evidence. i base my views on evidence not some mouthpiece yapping into a microphone. any how, i can change my view with some evidence and maybe there is some genuine real human goodwill between the 2. Short of any real evidence backing up Spoelstra's proclamations of love: Spoelstra "loves" Bosh about as Jerry Maguire "loves" that college QB ( Kushman?) in the Jerry Maguire movie. Its just BS to grease the skids on Bosh's exit so other players and free agents won't get mad at the Heat. now , onto head injuries. ya, so Brad Beal has his 2nd concussion in 9 months and every media outlet every where is calling it a "mild concussion". with all that's been discussed about head injuries you'd figure people would not throw around the term "mild concussion". its a BS term. its a concussion. full stop. If Beal has another concussion in 2016 I'd be concerned about the viability of his career. 3 concussions in 1 year is a recipe for disaster. Washington should seriously consider giving Beal the first 40 games off. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wizards-insider/wp/2016/09/29/bradley-beal-held-out-of-wizards-training-camp-practice-with-a-mild-concussion/ what i wonder is .. at this point today.. after the Heat physical and whatever it uncovered... is he on blood thinners for only 12 hours a day while playing/practising ball 2 hours a day? if he is and not developing complications he's got a shot at playing again. if he is on blood thinners almost all the time and practising basketball once every 2 weeks he is fooling himself. No one needs to prove anything to you, because despite your narcissism you are not judge nor jury. As stated you have no clue how Spoelstra feels. But I guess your proof of the Jerry Maguire Documentary is pretty compelling And no pictures that YOU have seen of him smiling at Bosh's kids? Well that is damning also. YOU not knowing if he has met his kids. You would know this if he cared because you are so tight with both of them. More very convincing EVIDENCE. With your level of deduction I wish you ran our legal system there would be no open cases. You would just proclaim guilt and we could be done with it. It is super hilarious you think that is evidence, might be worth a little google on the word. Also I don't see why you are making the Heat out to be so evil. Bosh is still getting paid. He's just not playing and if not cleared it won't count against the cap. I get it's sad the guy clearly loves the game and wants to keep playing, but health ain't fair. Also, they say mild concussion because its a medical term depending on the grade of concussion. Sometimes they use the terms mild ,moderate and severe. Others use grade 1, 2 ,3. There is some reading below if you would like to educate yourself. Hey if you can't make the heat out to be evil might as well attack the media they are easy target! https://biau.org/types-and-levels-of-brain-injury/ http://www.injuryinformation.com/injuries/concussions.php | ||
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