i watched Kobe predominantly do the left leg only landing later in his career. no big surprise here:when you injure your right leg you favour your left leg...
compensating for an injured joint is why starting pitchers are instantly pulled... and when they are not the manager is in hell if the pitcher gets any other kind of injury later in the year. the slightest change in mechanics leads to injuries.
For completeness,
aging is always factor. as you age your tissues lose some degree of flexibility. add all these factors together and you get a torn achilles tendon and a totally messed up left leg.
On July 07 2017 00:17 JimmyJRaynor wrote: bad landing mechanics cause leg injuries. we've been over it before.
Bryant had right knee surgeries in 2003, 2006 and 2010. He started landing more and more on his left leg as the right knee surgeries piled up.
Yes you have posted videos where they show highlights of people landing poorly. There could be some truth to it. But Kobe is the worst example in the world since he was durable as hell. It is also not something you came up with and is unrelated to what was posted above where you posted it. It's just one of the go too stupid things you post when you feel the need to "contribute"
On July 07 2017 00:17 Twinkle Toes wrote: Your general trolly style aside, there is truth to this.
As a Lebron fan, I admit his greatness lies elsewhere. I realized something while I was watching the finals with friends. In sure-to-win games, or in the first three quarters, Lebron will produce monster numbers. But when the game is on the line, Lebron is not deadly at all. He is a great player, but he does not command the same fear and respect other killers do, like MJ, Kobe, and Durant. Coaches and players have long known Kobe as a deadly clutch player, hence the automatic double and triple teams. We are lucky that Kobe has the ego to shoot and make difficult shots over double and triple teams, the classic Kobe shot. It's good for "spectatorship". The great JVG said it best, "The GOAT argument is controversial, the most skillful player argument is debatable, but there is no doubt that Kobe is the greatest difficult shotmaker of all time." Mike Breen and Mark J could barely contain their awe and laughter after hearing that.
Although the thing that surprises me from your post is the assist-to ratio. I think this has to do with Kobe being wiser and having better handles. Lebron's playmaking is different from traditional playmaking of say Stockton and CP3 in the sense that they manipulate, bend, and unravel the defense on the dribble while actively forcing and allowing the play to develop and make the best pass. In Lebron's case, no one is threatened of being crossed or shimmied by him so most perimeter coverage is single. Lebron makes his plays by pounding hard into the paint and attracting the double and from there, it is simply a matter of finding the open man.
I always find it funny when people say LBJ sucks because Kobe/MJ did this or vice versa. None of them suck they are all stratospheres above your average player. But yes others did somethings better then the other ones, it makes the GOAT discussion both interesting and impossible.
I agree with the first comment. That conclusion is completely not scholarly. I'm sure someone diligent enough could compile footage of players with bad landing mechanics but do not suffer injury late in their careers. And conversely, players with good mechanics who have significant foot injuries.
I agree wholeheartedly to your second comment. GOAT argument is never objective. It is silly to compare players who never played against each other, as it is even difficult to compare players who are contemporaries. It is a fun discussion though.
It would take me a long time to find it, but when this BS first came up I watched a bunch of videos of Kobe's big scoring games, shockingly (not at all) he landed all sorts of ways. It's pretty easy to take a couple of highlights and build a theroy based on it. The thing I find offensive that goes completely over JJ's head is KOBE was hella durable.
But heck if there is a video online its true.
edit: heres my post. What is also funny is when he first posted this video he claimed he came up with this idea on his own than found the video later "proving" his theory ROLF.
come on man. I just watched the videos that you posted in video one he landed 7 left 14 2 and 4 right. Video 2 3 left 12 2 and 2 right and in video 3 5 left 12 2 and 1 right.
Now you are telling me that with this distribution you and your buddy were like, Man it seems like he lands more on his left foot. And this is before the 2 knee surgeries on his RIGHT leg that apparently caused him to land more on his left.
Do you not think it is at all possible that his body was broken down from the 10000's of hours he spent playing and practicing? This is not Drose, this is one of the longest, healthiest careers of all time.
First that you have buddies to toss these ideas around with in not believable. Then that you thought man he lands more on his left he could blow out his Achilles is unbelievable. Then that you remembered this 2+ year old conversation randomly that far in the future and decided to post it is unbelievable. Then you just happen to find a video 2 days later that discusses the same theory but more complete and more believable since they say APPEAR and COULD. Telling people you predicted things after they happen again not believable.
Here's how you can prove me wrong. There are tons of NBA players out there with poor landing mechanics. And you watch so much basketball with such a keen eye for detail. Pick one that "you and your buddies" notice with poor landing mechanics that doesn't have a current injury history. Hell Pick three, if you get any one the 3 right within one year where you predict the leg and injury, ill change my signature for a year to what ever you want. You get them wrong all you have to do is admit your full of shit and we can move on.
On July 07 2017 00:37 Twinkle Toes wrote: conclusion is completely not scholarly. I'm sure someone diligent enough could compile footage of players with bad landing mechanics but do not suffer injury late in their careers. And conversely, players with good mechanics who have significant foot injuries.
it doesn't need to be scholarly. i'm just a kobe fan who watched him compensate for his oft injured right leg for years... and surprise surprise.. his left leg broke down.
This guy is a walking logical fallacy encyclopedia. If it's not false data that he does not understand, it's anecdotes, rumors, and blatant lies. Just ignore him.
Lol JimmyC. I was planning on doing something like that, glad you did it better than I would have. Could you believe it, HE HAS BEEN WATCHING KOBE LAND ON HIS LEFT LEG WAY BEFORE THAT VIDEO. Damn liar. I'd rather a loud mouth offensive troll than an ignorant know-it-all.
if you want to claim i didn't watch Bryant closely during his career you're just speculating. he was a big star; polarizing and fascinating to watch. so i watched him intently. very entertaining player.
or is it compensating for injured joints that has u riled up this badly?
1. no idea what you think i'm lying about. 2. most adults are liars which is why match-fixing in sports and esports happens so much and so even if i'm lying its not that big a deal
i'd rather talk about the NBA than me though. so i prefer this go to PM.
On July 07 2017 00:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote: 1. no idea what you think i'm lying about. 2. most adults are liars which is why match-fixing in sports and esports happens so much and so even if i'm lying its not that big a deal
i'd rather talk about the NBA than me though. so i prefer this go to PM.
nuff said. Someday he will be banned like in the hockey thread, life will become better and he will find a new favorite sport.
On July 07 2017 01:02 Keyboard Warrior wrote: kobe played 20 fruitful years of competitive basketball. that is the reason for his injuries, and not some whack 2-bit shit you found on the internet
do not pull my comments out of context. aging is always a factor as i've stated. and to play that long.. you of course get older.
On July 07 2017 01:07 Keyboard Warrior wrote: Going back, 4th quarter, 15 seconds left, opponents up by 1, who would you rather have the ball, kobe or lebron?