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JimmiC
Canada22806 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
I know that Klay and Draymond's free agencies are coming up in like, 2018 and 2019 or something? | ||
andrewlt
United States7645 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
Would explain why it seems like on paper Paul+Harden+Anthony doesn't make much sense :D. | ||
Keyboard Warrior
United States1178 Posts
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Keyboard Warrior
United States1178 Posts
See the link here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/523843-nba-offseason-2017?page=29#567 Now, I make this post to focus on lebron fans saying that he may not be clutch but he always makes the right plays. but does he? Enjoy the data! A. Total Passes on clutch game winning/ game tying situations: 26 B. Miss/made shots out of 26: 19 misses / 7 makes C. Successful game winning/tying assist percentage 7/26 or 26.9% D. Distance from rim during pass (Out of 26) D1. Passes from the 3pt line and beyond: 4/26 D2. Passes from 20-23 ft (long 2): 4/26 D3. Passes from 15-20 ft (perimeter) :4/26 D4. Passes from 8-15 ft (short range) : 5/26 D5. Passes from withing 8 ft (practically below the rim) : 9/26 E. Pass receiver distance from rim (Out of 26) E1. 3pt line and beyond: 12/26 E2. 20-23 ft (long 2): 6/26 E3. 15-20 ft (perimeter) :5/26 E4. 8-15 ft (short range) : 3/26 E5. withing 8 ft (practically below the rim) : 0/26 F. Pass receiver shot quality (Out of 26) F1. Passes to wide open teammates (at least 6 feet of nearest defender) : 5/26 F2. Passes to open teammates (at least 3 feet of nearest defender) : 7/27 F3. Passes to defended teammates (defender can potentially block the shot) : 11/26 F4. Passes to closed teammates (teammate cannot make the shot) : 3/26 G. Odds and Ends G1. Majority of passess to 3 point line are to Kyrie (2016 Championship shot) and Love G2. Only 4/26 include double teams. All of them are single coverage defense on lebron G3. Data does not include situation of lebron's defender (is he in good position to block/challenge, or out of position, or in foul trouble) tldr;
CONCLUSION: No, lebron is not a good playmaker. He is bad and has makes poor decisions in clutch time. This has been a tough effort but totally worth it. I'm interested in doing lebron's defensive skills next whether its really good, average, or overrated. Would you be interested in that? | ||
zev318
Canada4304 Posts
On July 19 2017 00:39 Keyboard Warrior wrote: What does it mean for the houston players? is it simply a change of management? or will player contracts be affected? just the owner. unless the owner decides to do random shit, then, ya it could affect management/players | ||
JimmiC
Canada22806 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7645 Posts
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
Can someone maybe explain the process pre-season? :/ Edit: Also is there a cheaper way than 29€/month to watch NBA? In Germany we have Sport 1US but doesnt show all the games I believe. DAZN I tried but they dont even show summer league.. | ||
Elroi
Sweden5470 Posts
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
On July 19 2017 00:40 Keyboard Warrior wrote: Last time, I made a post that undeniably explained why lebron is a bad clutch player and is clearly not as good as kobe during clutch time in terms of both scoring, making the game winning/equalizing shot AND playmaking. See the link here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/523843-nba-offseason-2017?page=29#567 Now, I make this post to focus on lebron fans saying that he may not be clutch but he always makes the right plays. but does he? Enjoy the data! A. Total Passes on clutch game winning/ game tying situations: 26 B. Miss/made shots out of 26: 19 misses / 7 makes C. Successful game winning/tying assist percentage 7/26 or 26.9% D. Distance from rim during pass (Out of 26) D1. Passes from the 3pt line and beyond: 4/26 D2. Passes from 20-23 ft (long 2): 4/26 D3. Passes from 15-20 ft (perimeter) :4/26 D4. Passes from 8-15 ft (short range) : 5/26 D5. Passes from withing 8 ft (practically below the rim) : 9/26 E. Pass receiver distance from rim (Out of 26) E1. 3pt line and beyond: 12/26 E2. 20-23 ft (long 2): 6/26 E3. 15-20 ft (perimeter) :5/26 E4. 8-15 ft (short range) : 3/26 E5. withing 8 ft (practically below the rim) : 0/26 F. Pass receiver shot quality (Out of 26) F1. Passes to wide open teammates (at least 6 feet of nearest defender) : 5/26 F2. Passes to open teammates (at least 3 feet of nearest defender) : 7/27 F3. Passes to defended teammates (defender can potentially block the shot) : 11/26 F4. Passes to closed teammates (teammate cannot make the shot) : 3/26 G. Odds and Ends G1. Majority of passess to 3 point line are to Kyrie (2016 Championship shot) and Love G2. Only 4/26 include double teams. All of them are single coverage defense on lebron G3. Data does not include situation of lebron's defender (is he in good position to block/challenge, or out of position, or in foul trouble) tldr;
CONCLUSION: No, lebron is not a good playmaker. He is bad and has makes poor decisions in clutch time. This has been a tough effort but totally worth it. I'm interested in doing lebron's defensive skills next whether its really good, average, or overrated. Would you be interested in that? Wow! These are horrible numbers. I knew there was something wrong with passing instead of making the shot himself, but if Lebron's assists are not as good as we thought it was, this is really bad. I think adding Lebron's FG% on the areas where he passed would give us a more complete picture. | ||
Jerubaal
United States7675 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia12660 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
For me the eye-test confirms it too. Sometimes Lebron is not aggressive enough as a scorer, goes into this pass-first mindset and will prefer to make what he feels is the "correct" play. I'm even talking about in the middle of a game as well, not just the end. It's fine that you want to get your teammates going, but the scariest Lebron is the one who bullies his way to the rim, posts up dudes and draws fouls. It's so weird when you see him being isolated on Curry in the post 10 ft from the basket, and he decides to do a skip pass to a shooter who's not actually that open... It's a nice skip pass, but how about scoring on the smaller guy? | ||
cLutZ
United States19551 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22806 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7645 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19551 Posts
On July 21 2017 04:14 JimmiC wrote: I believe the general thought is Lebron gets less whistles compared to other stars because of how big and strong he is. I think on the D end they often don't call him when maybe they should but there are a lot of hacks missed because of his strength. Its a double edged sword with LBJ and the officials. Yes he does get hacked more for less whistles like Shaq, on the other hand, they don't foul him out in the 1st even though he commits about 5 offensive fouls a quarter . | ||
Jerubaal
United States7675 Posts
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