2017 NFL and CFB Season - Page 205
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vult
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JimmiC
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xDaunt
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On February 22 2018 07:36 JimmiC wrote: 4 top 10 , total of 4 first round That many in the Top 10, huh? Cleveland will definitely take a QB. Giants will very likely take a QB. Beyond that, you're looking at Denver, the Jets, and other teams trading up (like the Bills). Where do you see Cousins landing? | ||
cLutZ
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GTR
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First 10 - 3 (Darnold/Rosen/Allen or Mayfield) | ||
Sermokala
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xDaunt
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On February 22 2018 08:36 Sermokala wrote: Baker is way too much of a risk to take for one of those really early picks. Hes a fearless gunslinger that could rise to greatness but could much more easily prove that the jump is way to much for him. This is the hard thing about this draft. A lot of the teams with top picks need a QB, but there are some really damned good players that are going to be available early (Barkley, Nelson, Fitzpatrick, Chubb) and will be tough to pass on. | ||
cLutZ
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JimmiC
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On February 22 2018 07:57 xDaunt wrote: That many in the Top 10, huh? Cleveland will definitely take a QB. Giants will very likely take a QB. Beyond that, you're looking at Denver, the Jets, and other teams trading up (like the Bills). Where do you see Cousins landing? I think den jets cle and giants will and one signs cousins then some one will trade up like chiefs did last year. Qbs always go more then expected. | ||
Shellshock
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On February 22 2018 08:52 cLutZ wrote: I think people have the wrong idea about Barkley (not that he isn't good) because they have been sold on the fools gold that is Elliot and Gurley. Those 2 were successful not really because of their own talent, but because they were good+had sick o-lines (that also have made decent, but not great, Prescott and Goff look pretty good). If Indy or CLE takes him its just going to be a wasted pick because he wont do crap when he is getting hit 3 yards behind scrimmage. I think Cleveland's O line was actually rated not garbage at run blocking. but they also didn't really run that often since Hue abandoned the run as soon as they were down 3 | ||
GTR
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Shellshock
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On February 22 2018 10:21 GTR wrote: cleveland's o-line is actually underrated. Thomas/Zeitler/Tretter/Bitonio/Coleman is nothing to scoff at, with coleman probably the sole weak point at RT. yeah football outsiders had them at #15 in the league in the run game but #22 in passing. colts by comparison are #18 for running, #32 for passing lol seahawks and Lions were obviously #31&32 in run blocking. no one surprised by that | ||
cLutZ
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On February 22 2018 10:10 Shellshock wrote: I think Cleveland's O line was actually rated not garbage at run blocking. but they also didn't really run that often since Hue abandoned the run as soon as they were down 3 That is interesting. Still, I think you will still be disappointed with him if you expect Zeke 2.0 with a decent, but not great line. | ||
GTR
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i think an apt comparison would probably be a heavier ladanian tomlinson | ||
cLutZ
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JimmiC
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On February 22 2018 14:05 cLutZ wrote: That isn't my point. Its more that a RB is the final piece of a puzzle, not the foundation of a balanced offense. You need so many other things in place to get good value of of that pick. I get what you are saying, but a great back also elevates those around him. If you have a good Oline a OK QB and a great RB you can have a really good offense. If I had a mediocre or better o-line I'd consider a back high up. There have been so many hits in the 2nd and 3rd round though, so you need to be sure. | ||
vult
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Also cant wait to see what mid-round QB the Pats grab. | ||
GTR
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Aveng3r
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On February 22 2018 14:03 GTR wrote: well barkley isn't a zeke or fournette type of player because he's more of a shifty back then a power/through the tackles sort of guy. i think an apt comparison would probably be a heavier ladanian tomlinson I dunno about this.. | ||
Shellshock
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Outplayed Chubb in the playoffs | ||
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