I mean maybe Im just a sheep or something but i love sc2 and have played it since release (with some downtime)
Oh well, haters gonna hate, dont buy HotS if you dont want and dont complain about it when you do
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arcHoniC
United States141 Posts
I mean maybe Im just a sheep or something but i love sc2 and have played it since release (with some downtime) Oh well, haters gonna hate, dont buy HotS if you dont want and dont complain about it when you do | ||
maybenexttime
Poland5231 Posts
On January 04 2013 08:00 Avalain wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2013 06:41 maybenexttime wrote: On January 04 2013 05:41 weikor wrote: 2 years into the game and your in a Starcraft 2 dedicated forum, discussing an expansion to be released in over 3 months. Your buying it. Dont kid yourself I didn't even buy WoL, so I'm not. Not until they fix the game. But it's getting progressively worse and they missed their chance to fix the fundamental flaws. So the Starcraft 2 expansion isn't worth buying if you didn't even buy the original Starcraft 2. Well, I guess that's probably going to be the obvious answer for most people that don't actually play SC2. HOTS is also not worth buying for my wife who doesn't play or my unborn son. That wasn't my point. And it's not like I can't buy both at the same time if I deem HotS to be worth my money. So not having WoL is not a limitation of any kind. I just noted that I did not consider WoL woth my money either. It's always like that when someone criticizes SC2. One bought the game, fanboys will say "you're just a whiner, you'll buy HotS anyway". When one did not buy SC2, fanboys will say "why are you even posting then? go back to your BW cave..." Exaggerating, but only a bit. The big question is, "why are you here?" I mean, I get that there are other games on this site that people could be playing. But I personally don't bother with the forums for games I don't even play. Why would I? Why would anyone? I am here because blizzard killed BW in Korea, and I want to get a worthy successor. SC2 is not one, by a mile. And before you say they did not kill BW - they accepted KeSPA's terms when it comes to SC2 in ProLeague while giving KeSPA ridiculous, unacceptable demands a couple of years earlier as far as BW broadcasts go, and sued KeSPA over them. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On January 05 2013 00:12 maybenexttime wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2013 08:00 Avalain wrote: On January 04 2013 06:41 maybenexttime wrote: On January 04 2013 05:41 weikor wrote: 2 years into the game and your in a Starcraft 2 dedicated forum, discussing an expansion to be released in over 3 months. Your buying it. Dont kid yourself I didn't even buy WoL, so I'm not. Not until they fix the game. But it's getting progressively worse and they missed their chance to fix the fundamental flaws. So the Starcraft 2 expansion isn't worth buying if you didn't even buy the original Starcraft 2. Well, I guess that's probably going to be the obvious answer for most people that don't actually play SC2. HOTS is also not worth buying for my wife who doesn't play or my unborn son. That wasn't my point. And it's not like I can't buy both at the same time if I deem HotS to be worth my money. So not having WoL is not a limitation of any kind. I just noted that I did not consider WoL woth my money either. It's always like that when someone criticizes SC2. One bought the game, fanboys will say "you're just a whiner, you'll buy HotS anyway". When one did not buy SC2, fanboys will say "why are you even posting then? go back to your BW cave..." Exaggerating, but only a bit. Show nested quote + The big question is, "why are you here?" I mean, I get that there are other games on this site that people could be playing. But I personally don't bother with the forums for games I don't even play. Why would I? Why would anyone? I am here because blizzard killed BW in Korea, and I want to get a worthy successor. SC2 is not one, by a mile. And before you say they did not kill BW - they accepted KeSPA's terms when it comes to SC2 in ProLeague while giving KeSPA ridiculous, unacceptable demands a couple of years earlier as far as BW broadcasts go, and sued KeSPA over them. All right then, well you have made your feelings know. I personally think BW died of natural causes and the lawsuit had little to do with it. We will see you again when the third SC2 expansion comes out to reaffirm that you do not think it is worth it. Good luck until then. | ||
maybenexttime
Poland5231 Posts
On January 05 2013 00:29 Plansix wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2013 00:12 maybenexttime wrote: On January 04 2013 08:00 Avalain wrote: On January 04 2013 06:41 maybenexttime wrote: On January 04 2013 05:41 weikor wrote: 2 years into the game and your in a Starcraft 2 dedicated forum, discussing an expansion to be released in over 3 months. Your buying it. Dont kid yourself I didn't even buy WoL, so I'm not. Not until they fix the game. But it's getting progressively worse and they missed their chance to fix the fundamental flaws. So the Starcraft 2 expansion isn't worth buying if you didn't even buy the original Starcraft 2. Well, I guess that's probably going to be the obvious answer for most people that don't actually play SC2. HOTS is also not worth buying for my wife who doesn't play or my unborn son. That wasn't my point. And it's not like I can't buy both at the same time if I deem HotS to be worth my money. So not having WoL is not a limitation of any kind. I just noted that I did not consider WoL woth my money either. It's always like that when someone criticizes SC2. One bought the game, fanboys will say "you're just a whiner, you'll buy HotS anyway". When one did not buy SC2, fanboys will say "why are you even posting then? go back to your BW cave..." Exaggerating, but only a bit. The big question is, "why are you here?" I mean, I get that there are other games on this site that people could be playing. But I personally don't bother with the forums for games I don't even play. Why would I? Why would anyone? I am here because blizzard killed BW in Korea, and I want to get a worthy successor. SC2 is not one, by a mile. And before you say they did not kill BW - they accepted KeSPA's terms when it comes to SC2 in ProLeague while giving KeSPA ridiculous, unacceptable demands a couple of years earlier as far as BW broadcasts go, and sued KeSPA over them. All right then, well you have made your feelings know. I personally think BW died of natural causes and the lawsuit had little to do with it. We will see you again when the third SC2 expansion comes out to reaffirm that you do not think it is worth it. Good luck until then. Facts are what matters, and there were two reasons why BW died in Korea and was replaced by the less popular and inferior gameplay wise game. Match fixing and the lawsuit. | ||
executorx
Germany81 Posts
But i will play the single player campaign. | ||
Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On January 04 2013 23:56 NVRLand wrote: I don't really know what to expect from a Starcraft expansion. I never played SC1 and when I bought Age of Empires expansions it was like a couple of new civilizations and such things. It made the expansion seem exciting and new. When it comes to Starcraft 2 I play nothing but multiplayer. I have played like 30 min of the campaign but all I can think of is "You could be practicing build orders/macro/micro which you actually have use of" so I don't care at all about the campaign HotS brings. And to pay that money (The same amount as a totally new game...) for an expansion that will bring me 2 - 3 new units is kinda bullshit. I will do it tho' cause I wanna keep up with the scene :p Don't wanna play WoL when all the pros switched to HotS. But to me, I'd expect more in the multiplayer part. But then again, seems like people in general wants SC2 to be more like SC:BW which kinda... messes up the idea of an expansion - To bring in new stuff to lengthen the life of the game. To be fair AoE civilizations were basically just the same as all the others with a couple different units thrown in... | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On January 05 2013 01:01 Pokebunny wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2013 23:56 NVRLand wrote: I don't really know what to expect from a Starcraft expansion. I never played SC1 and when I bought Age of Empires expansions it was like a couple of new civilizations and such things. It made the expansion seem exciting and new. When it comes to Starcraft 2 I play nothing but multiplayer. I have played like 30 min of the campaign but all I can think of is "You could be practicing build orders/macro/micro which you actually have use of" so I don't care at all about the campaign HotS brings. And to pay that money (The same amount as a totally new game...) for an expansion that will bring me 2 - 3 new units is kinda bullshit. I will do it tho' cause I wanna keep up with the scene :p Don't wanna play WoL when all the pros switched to HotS. But to me, I'd expect more in the multiplayer part. But then again, seems like people in general wants SC2 to be more like SC:BW which kinda... messes up the idea of an expansion - To bring in new stuff to lengthen the life of the game. To be fair AoE civilizations were basically just the same as all the others with a couple different units thrown in... Isn't that every RTS expansion ever? A new single player compaign and some multiplayer units, possible new, broken faction. Every Dawn of War(one and two) expansion for added a new faction(easy for them, since the factions are from 40K) and a single unit per race. Same with Supreme Commander, Company of Heroes or any other RTS game ever made. I paid the same price for most of those expansions or slightly less. Also, if you go down to basic net-code, lag, stability and match making, all of those games was weak tea compared to SC2. | ||
Sherlock-Canada
Canada269 Posts
On January 05 2013 00:11 arcHoniC wrote: I am still pretty surprised to see so many people freaking out about WoL I mean maybe Im just a sheep or something but i love sc2 and have played it since release (with some downtime) Oh well, haters gonna hate, dont buy HotS if you dont want and dont complain about it when you do Yeah, that's just observer bias. It's harder to inspire the people who are happy and playing the game to come and go, "I love this game a lot! Keep up the good work, Blizzard!" in the same way that newspapers don't have the headline "5 billion people NOT injured in gun violence today." | ||
Madkipz
Norway1643 Posts
If any of you think starcraft 2 will ever go beyond 3 base and some new units then you are fooling yourself. The jig is up, the game is figured out. You`re all going to do 3 base deathballs until the end of Starcraft 2`s lifecycle and it will come because the amount of possibilities and options in this game is LIMITED to a 3 base economy and the supply limit is intended for small"ass"maps. You are all paying 40 bucks for some units, a campain and a few new battle net 0.1 features. | ||
imBLIND
United States2626 Posts
On January 05 2013 01:39 Plansix wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2013 01:01 Pokebunny wrote: On January 04 2013 23:56 NVRLand wrote: I don't really know what to expect from a Starcraft expansion. I never played SC1 and when I bought Age of Empires expansions it was like a couple of new civilizations and such things. It made the expansion seem exciting and new. When it comes to Starcraft 2 I play nothing but multiplayer. I have played like 30 min of the campaign but all I can think of is "You could be practicing build orders/macro/micro which you actually have use of" so I don't care at all about the campaign HotS brings. And to pay that money (The same amount as a totally new game...) for an expansion that will bring me 2 - 3 new units is kinda bullshit. I will do it tho' cause I wanna keep up with the scene :p Don't wanna play WoL when all the pros switched to HotS. But to me, I'd expect more in the multiplayer part. But then again, seems like people in general wants SC2 to be more like SC:BW which kinda... messes up the idea of an expansion - To bring in new stuff to lengthen the life of the game. To be fair AoE civilizations were basically just the same as all the others with a couple different units thrown in... Isn't that every RTS expansion ever? A new single player compaign and some multiplayer units, possible new, broken faction. Every Dawn of War(one and two) expansion for added a new faction(easy for them, since the factions are from 40K) and a single unit per race. Same with Supreme Commander, Company of Heroes or any other RTS game ever made. I paid the same price for most of those expansions or slightly less. Also, if you go down to basic net-code, lag, stability and match making, all of those games was weak tea compared to SC2. Considering how much Blizzard has fucked up WoL over the last 2 years, I think they owe the community a more revolutionary expansion than just the stereotypical expansion. Even to the people who are already going to buy it/already bought it, they would know the difference between what they thought was a good game and a great game. | ||
aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
Sure, WOL had and has its faults. Sure, I wish Blizzard had not taken the nerf bat so hard and so often to WOL (especially in its first year), had ignored community whining and left the game alone to players and map-makers. But, for all that, I spent around $100 NZD on the game on release in 2010. I got well over 2 years of regular play time from the game spread over the campaign and multi-player (single and in team format with friends). I joined TL and learned and discussed the game with other players, and even made a few friends with whom I'd custom online. I watched streams, tournaments, and enjoyed the scene. I have had a great time in SC2 WOL. My main SC2 regret is that I did not just play more! Tell you what, I think that $100NZD was money well spent. I wish I could say the same about so many of my other purchases (gaming or otherwise). If I was to buy HoTS (probably $60NZD) and get half of the experience I got from WOL, I'd consider that money well spent, and say, "Thanks Blizzard, for yet another great and enjoyable game." | ||
Ramone
Canada85 Posts
There were stints when I was into WoW where that was my budgeting strategy, heh: IGNORE FRIENDS AND PLAY MOAR WoW BECAUSE IT ONLY COSTS $15 PER MONTH. I agree that there isn't really THAT much new stuff added to the game.... In fact I'm not even really excited for it like I have been for most blizzard expansions. I suppose if I played Zerg I'd probably be more exicited though. I mean Terran gets a support unit (widow mine), a reaper buff, and an upright hellion... that doesn't seem to be super exciting, but we'll see Protoss fairs a bit better with oracle that at least has some cool abilities....although what I wouldn't give for an air harass unit that could kill workers without energy..... like muta/banshee. And Tempest, which seems pretty boring and one dimensional....I see this being similar to the carrier in that it gets limited use. Oh, can't forget we lose mothership and get the core instead, downsizing in a bad economy I guess. I could grow to really like the core if it wasn't a "only one allowed" unit. As it is, it's just a stupid gimmick that makes a protoss fast expand safer, and provides some minor utility in the form of detection in the protoss deathball. I see this unit being extremely frustrating an average player...I can see it getting sniped repeatedly in the mid game. This unit disappoints me soooo much because it has the potential to be so cool, but doesn't look like it's going to be... Zerg gets buffed hydralisks, which is great imo! They also get a unit that completely nullifies the best protoss unit in the game: the collosus, which also provides some cool spellcaster utility....oh yea, it also gets a cool way to replenish energy for nearly free! (Why is that last part necessary??) In addition to that, they receive a completely new core unit in the swarm host. So to summarize: Hydra Buff Ultra Buff Swarm Hosts Viper Muta Buff Infestor Nerf Basically a complete overhaul of the race, which is pretty damned exciting for a zerg player! I am most sad about the viper abduct ability vs protoss. Protoss armies in WoL usually consider of powerful "super units" from their robo's surrounded by weaker gateway forces to soak up damage (zealots) and suppliment the robo's weakness's like anti air (stalkers). Vipers seem to hard counter robo units leaving behind the weaker gateway forces....On top of that they can blind the stalkers. It seems like high templar may be the mainstay of a protoss army in HoTS. I'm not against that idea in theory, but I freaking hate how slow high templar are. That's the #1 reason I tend towards collosus in all current match ups. With armies moving all over the place trying to get position on one another, I find that all too often, my high templar are out of position due to their slower speed, and show up just in time to cast storm when the opposing force has just about wiped up my entire army... Certainly my own issue, and I'm sure many better players than myself figure out ways to handle them. Bah, I'm done rambling I think. TLDR: I'm buying the game, definitely. Cheap fun. I'm disappointed about the new units for Protoss and Terran, particularly Terran. I'm stoked to see Zerg (who of course I don't play) get such a bonanza of changes that completely overhauls the playstyle. And I'm not happy with abduct or the fact that mothership core is so a *only one allowed* gimmicky unit. Cheers, Ramone | ||
NostalgiaTag
Canada508 Posts
I still go back and play the Warcraft 3 campaigns every now and then. They are incredibly fun. | ||
Apolo
Portugal1259 Posts
On January 05 2013 01:01 Pokebunny wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2013 23:56 NVRLand wrote: I don't really know what to expect from a Starcraft expansion. I never played SC1 and when I bought Age of Empires expansions it was like a couple of new civilizations and such things. It made the expansion seem exciting and new. When it comes to Starcraft 2 I play nothing but multiplayer. I have played like 30 min of the campaign but all I can think of is "You could be practicing build orders/macro/micro which you actually have use of" so I don't care at all about the campaign HotS brings. And to pay that money (The same amount as a totally new game...) for an expansion that will bring me 2 - 3 new units is kinda bullshit. I will do it tho' cause I wanna keep up with the scene :p Don't wanna play WoL when all the pros switched to HotS. But to me, I'd expect more in the multiplayer part. But then again, seems like people in general wants SC2 to be more like SC:BW which kinda... messes up the idea of an expansion - To bring in new stuff to lengthen the life of the game. To be fair AoE civilizations were basically just the same as all the others with a couple different units thrown in... Hm... to be even more fair, it wasn't just units. Each civilization had a specific set of units, bonuses / handicaps, sounds, animations and graphics that made it very diverse. The main thing in multiplayer in SC2 is that they don't even change how the game works, that is, each race works exactly the same way it did in WoL and it basically feels the same way. It really only has some units added, and at least for me, i won't pay 40€ to use 5 or 6 new things. The UI has some changes, but those should already be in WoL as well. There should be much more for HoTS to be worth almost as much as the original game. | ||
Rabid Wookie
United States68 Posts
There are many things the development team has done or not done as the case maybe that I don't agree with and I whole heartedly believe they could make this great game so much better that no one would ever have to worry over the success of E-Sports, will they though I don't know but I will keep buying them and hope. If sales were low enough (not going to happen) it's possible they just might shelve the whole thing and we'd never have Starcraft to play and enjoy, whether it was exactly as we envisioned or not. I for one want to play Starcraft as long as it isn't broken beyond playability and so I will always purchase every new Starcraft game they release. | ||
Avalain
Canada308 Posts
On January 05 2013 00:12 maybenexttime wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2013 08:00 Avalain wrote: On January 04 2013 06:41 maybenexttime wrote: On January 04 2013 05:41 weikor wrote: 2 years into the game and your in a Starcraft 2 dedicated forum, discussing an expansion to be released in over 3 months. Your buying it. Dont kid yourself I didn't even buy WoL, so I'm not. Not until they fix the game. But it's getting progressively worse and they missed their chance to fix the fundamental flaws. So the Starcraft 2 expansion isn't worth buying if you didn't even buy the original Starcraft 2. Well, I guess that's probably going to be the obvious answer for most people that don't actually play SC2. HOTS is also not worth buying for my wife who doesn't play or my unborn son. That wasn't my point. And it's not like I can't buy both at the same time if I deem HotS to be worth my money. So not having WoL is not a limitation of any kind. I just noted that I did not consider WoL woth my money either. It's always like that when someone criticizes SC2. One bought the game, fanboys will say "you're just a whiner, you'll buy HotS anyway". When one did not buy SC2, fanboys will say "why are you even posting then? go back to your BW cave..." Exaggerating, but only a bit. Show nested quote + The big question is, "why are you here?" I mean, I get that there are other games on this site that people could be playing. But I personally don't bother with the forums for games I don't even play. Why would I? Why would anyone? I am here because blizzard killed BW in Korea, and I want to get a worthy successor. SC2 is not one, by a mile. And before you say they did not kill BW - they accepted KeSPA's terms when it comes to SC2 in ProLeague while giving KeSPA ridiculous, unacceptable demands a couple of years earlier as far as BW broadcasts go, and sued KeSPA over them. Perhaps I was wrong but I think you missed my point as well. I didn't think you are the target audience for this thread or this poll. For example, I don't play DOTA 2. I didn't even buy it. Now if a thread comes up in the DOTA 2 forum asking if the DOTA 2 expansion is worth buying I wouldn't bother responding because it's obvious that people who don't play the game won't consider the expansion either. It's a matter of context. If we were coworkers and I asked you if it was worth buying HOTS, your answer would be completely valid. The point that the person you originally replied to was trying to make was regarding this as well; people who are in the HOTS thread are generally assumed to be interested in HOTS in some form or another. People who don't play the game aren't generally here in the first place. Now, that being said you are definitely the exception to the norm. I can see why you'd want to follow the progress of a game you don't play. Yes, you're definitely in the unenviable position of liking a game that is essentially being retired. It's definitely a negative aspect of eSports that games can disappear entirely in so short a time compared to traditional sports. Unfortunately, I have bad news for you. The chance of you getting the game that you want in SC2 in almost 0. I don't even know what those things are but I'm sure it's some of the multitude of things already mentioned in this thread. The problem is that the game isn't actually broken. It doesn't need to be fixed. It just isn't the type of game you wanted it to be. You can't say that it needs to be fixed; the most you can possibly say is that you won't buy it until the game is fundamentally changed to be the type of game you want it to be. | ||
naastyOne
491 Posts
On January 05 2013 00:12 maybenexttime wrote: I am here because blizzard killed BW in Korea, and I want to get a worthy successor. SC2 is not one, by a mile. And before you say they did not kill BW - they accepted KeSPA's terms when it comes to SC2 in ProLeague while giving KeSPA ridiculous, unacceptable demands a couple of years earlier as far as BW broadcasts go, and sued KeSPA over them. Well, for a small minority it is not, but considering SC2 fanbase everywhere exept for korea are basically people thet were not fans of BW in the first place, Blizzard could not care less. | ||
Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
excluding pokemon, gotta catch'em all yo To compare this with other games I have bought, I spent around £20 on half life 2, and whilst it was a great game it only provided me with about 30 hours of entertainment and the same can go for practically every single player game I have played. <EDIT> I wrote payed, PAYED instead of paid.-.- | ||
maybenexttime
Poland5231 Posts
On January 05 2013 06:16 Avalain wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2013 00:12 maybenexttime wrote: On January 04 2013 08:00 Avalain wrote: On January 04 2013 06:41 maybenexttime wrote: On January 04 2013 05:41 weikor wrote: 2 years into the game and your in a Starcraft 2 dedicated forum, discussing an expansion to be released in over 3 months. Your buying it. Dont kid yourself I didn't even buy WoL, so I'm not. Not until they fix the game. But it's getting progressively worse and they missed their chance to fix the fundamental flaws. So the Starcraft 2 expansion isn't worth buying if you didn't even buy the original Starcraft 2. Well, I guess that's probably going to be the obvious answer for most people that don't actually play SC2. HOTS is also not worth buying for my wife who doesn't play or my unborn son. That wasn't my point. And it's not like I can't buy both at the same time if I deem HotS to be worth my money. So not having WoL is not a limitation of any kind. I just noted that I did not consider WoL woth my money either. It's always like that when someone criticizes SC2. One bought the game, fanboys will say "you're just a whiner, you'll buy HotS anyway". When one did not buy SC2, fanboys will say "why are you even posting then? go back to your BW cave..." Exaggerating, but only a bit. The big question is, "why are you here?" I mean, I get that there are other games on this site that people could be playing. But I personally don't bother with the forums for games I don't even play. Why would I? Why would anyone? I am here because blizzard killed BW in Korea, and I want to get a worthy successor. SC2 is not one, by a mile. And before you say they did not kill BW - they accepted KeSPA's terms when it comes to SC2 in ProLeague while giving KeSPA ridiculous, unacceptable demands a couple of years earlier as far as BW broadcasts go, and sued KeSPA over them. Perhaps I was wrong but I think you missed my point as well. I didn't think you are the target audience for this thread or this poll. For example, I don't play DOTA 2. I didn't even buy it. Now if a thread comes up in the DOTA 2 forum asking if the DOTA 2 expansion is worth buying I wouldn't bother responding because it's obvious that people who don't play the game won't consider the expansion either. It's a matter of context. If we were coworkers and I asked you if it was worth buying HOTS, your answer would be completely valid. The point that the person you originally replied to was trying to make was regarding this as well; people who are in the HOTS thread are generally assumed to be interested in HOTS in some form or another. People who don't play the game aren't generally here in the first place. Now, that being said you are definitely the exception to the norm. I can see why you'd want to follow the progress of a game you don't play. Yes, you're definitely in the unenviable position of liking a game that is essentially being retired. It's definitely a negative aspect of eSports that games can disappear entirely in so short a time compared to traditional sports. Unfortunately, I have bad news for you. The chance of you getting the game that you want in SC2 in almost 0. I don't even know what those things are but I'm sure it's some of the multitude of things already mentioned in this thread. The problem is that the game isn't actually broken. It doesn't need to be fixed. It just isn't the type of game you wanted it to be. You can't say that it needs to be fixed; the most you can possibly say is that you won't buy it until the game is fundamentally changed to be the type of game you want it to be. In other words, a circlejerk? I don't really think so. Why would the poll ask future HotS buyers whether they're buying the game? Doesn't make sense. I am interested in HotS to some extent the reason for which I explained in my earlier post. And when it comes to whether the game is broken, you're in the minority now. Deathballs, lack of micro, 3 base play cap, and so on, and so on. Those flaws have been discussed to death, there's a consensus that they're really bad for the game. On January 05 2013 06:40 naastyOne wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2013 00:12 maybenexttime wrote: I am here because blizzard killed BW in Korea, and I want to get a worthy successor. SC2 is not one, by a mile. And before you say they did not kill BW - they accepted KeSPA's terms when it comes to SC2 in ProLeague while giving KeSPA ridiculous, unacceptable demands a couple of years earlier as far as BW broadcasts go, and sued KeSPA over them. Well, for a small minority it is not, but considering SC2 fanbase everywhere exept for korea are basically people thet were not fans of BW in the first place, Blizzard could not care less. Half of which already left the game, while BW and WC3 were growing after release. | ||
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Canada1849 Posts
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