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sLiniss
United States849 Posts
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BigDatez
Canada434 Posts
On May 17 2010 06:40 NadeDawg wrote: Cheese is just the lack of scouting. Imo real cheese can be only pulled off early game. A bigger problem are builds/cheese you can very well scout but cannot counter like 6 Rax Reaper vs. Protoss. I LOVE when people say that they "cannot" counter it. It's called get an early gate once you see it comming (will be in their base on 2p maps besides maybe DO by the time the pylons up for only ~10 seconds) Then, if you see it comming, get an 11 gate, and cyber ASAP, crono stalker, BOOM. He might get 2-3 probes max, but he cut his eco HARD to do that, so you'll still be ahead. I do it all the time ^^ | ||
Tone_
United Kingdom554 Posts
On May 17 2010 08:19 Jimmeh wrote: -Dark templar rush ....................... Yeah all that damn dark templar rush cheese. | ||
clik
United States319 Posts
As for the actual question I get a fair share from every race. | ||
Deleted User 48059
86 Posts
I have faced the occasional 6-pool though. Kev | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28262 Posts
I think about 95% of games ive seen where cheese was used terran was the culprit. I haven't seen proxy gates for two months and I haven't seen zerg cheese even once. | ||
onihunter
United States515 Posts
obviously he does all the cheesing himself | ||
AgentComet
United States39 Posts
I voted toss because the only cheese I know of is early proxy/cannon rush. (Nothing teaches you to scout like contempt for cannon rushes.) Any race can proxy, but toss have the easiest time of it. If somebody rushes to void rays, it really isn't cheese IMO because it can be scouted and countered. | ||
ymirheim
Sweden300 Posts
On May 17 2010 09:16 Liquid`Drone wrote: for p to be winning this pool seems like people strongly misuse the term cheese I think about 95% of games ive seen where cheese was used terran was the culprit. I haven't seen proxy gates for two months and I haven't seen zerg cheese even once. Well I don't know about everyone elses reason but this is precisely why I voted protoss actually. Two gate proxy is ridiculously common imo, to the point where I probably play a toss who tries to set up gateways inside or just outside my base about five times for every time I play a terran who does a super fast reaper or other variation of proxy rax. Actually something like my last seven PvT on scrap station and desert oasis were against two gate proxy. | ||
Railxp
Hong Kong1313 Posts
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Toads
Canada1795 Posts
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Clearout
Norway1060 Posts
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ZapRoffo
United States5544 Posts
The only one I saw in lower levels (I placed copper and have improved steadily since) that I haven't seen yet up higher is spine crawler rushes in zvz and nuke rushes. I just watched my sister in copper fight a planetary fortress rush yesterday too. But protoss has the highest percent, most of the time the ones I get are various forms of all out zealot rushes. | ||
junemermaid
United States981 Posts
That said, I've only been cheesed by terran or protoss. I haven't seen a zerg cheese in a while. Most of the cheese goes to protoss, but there are still a fair number of people who do cheese in 2on2's (double Terran doing a double reaper rush, TZ doing reaper rush + 6pool lings). It is generally harder to stop this in 2on2, but not impossible. The play is becoming more standard in 1on1 now that people are scouting for the bad manners. | ||
grandmoose
United States160 Posts
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Riot20
United States24 Posts
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Hiicantpk
Canada72 Posts
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7mk
Germany10156 Posts
On May 17 2010 09:24 ymirheim wrote: Well I don't know about everyone elses reason but this is precisely why I voted protoss actually. Two gate proxy is ridiculously common imo, to the point where I probably play a toss who tries to set up gateways inside or just outside my base about five times for every time I play a terran who does a super fast reaper or other variation of proxy rax. Actually something like my last seven PvT on scrap station and desert oasis were against two gate proxy. shouldnt two gate proxy be pretty easy to hold off as terran? the thing is, drone probably plays like 50 times as many games as other people so his opinion really says a lot more than some gold players who play like 10 games a week. | ||
Madkipz
Norway1643 Posts
On May 17 2010 09:48 Riot20 wrote: I think most people should look up or get a general definition of what cheese really is. Void rays/dts are a tactic. No they are not a tactic, what do you proxy star gates into Voidrays to counter? NOTHING ANYONE doing it usually end up admitting that it is done to get easy wins against poor players. These people who hide their tech, or go for TRICK plays that rely soledly on stealth to have success suck at playing standard. | ||
Rodiel
France573 Posts
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