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Liquid`Tyler wrote: I think Liquid needs to hire this guy. E-sports psychologist!
This basicly applies for all sports, not just e-sports. Still, awesome post! (I believe i've seen it somewhere before tho in some science magazine)
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On August 08 2010 06:34 chekthehek wrote: excellent read
id like to add, before every game, i do 10 push ups. this isnt because "i want to get muscle while playing starcraft man", its because it makes me feel good. when i am just reading the forums, and feel like playing ladder i wont feel very up, but you know just doing 10 quick push ups for about 10 seconds, it gets my heart beating and i feel great
As long as I'm being the e-sports psychologist, exercise is a great way to improve concentration and ability to focus. Many top chess players have rigorous exercise routines for that reason. So that's part of why you feel great after those quick pushups.
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I agree this was a good post, but there is just one problem. I think on some level and with varying degrees of intellectual depth, we understand these concepts and guidelines and know that optimally, we shouldn't play for the win, and we should just strive to improve. The problem is not acknowledging, but traslating the knowledge into a positive mental state. That's where I fail anyways.
I completely agree with all points, but I still rage after losses and get extremely frustrated. My worst habits from poker have carried over; I go on 'tilt'! After 2 or 3 losses, I will start playing progressively worse, my game degenerating into all-ins and just stupid plays to get that fast victory that I crave. It's just like going all-in pre-flop in poker cause you're frustrated! Here, it's just my ego taking over and telling me that I should win and that everything is just stupid...
But yea, you have some good points, but I don't think it will help players like me unfortunately. Anyone else who can relate to what I say?
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On August 08 2010 06:49 Jenslyn87 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I agree this was a good post, but there is just one problem. I think on some level and with varying degrees of intellectual depth, we understand these concepts and guidelines and know that optimally, we shouldn't play for the win, and we should just strive to improve. The problem is not acknowledging, but traslating the knowledge into a positive mental state. That's where I fail anyways.
I completely agree with all points, but I still rage after losses and get extremely frustrated. My worst habits from poker have carried over; I go on 'tilt'! After 2 or 3 losses, I will start playing progressively worse, my game degenerating into all-ins and just stupid plays to get that fast victory that I crave. It's just like going all-in pre-flop in poker cause you're frustrated! Here, it's just my ego taking over and telling me that I should win and that everything is just stupid...
But yea, you have some good points, but I don't think it will help players like me unfortunately. Anyone else who can relate to what I say?
That's kind of how I am with poker. I know to play the odds, I know I can't control anything beyond that, but I still get pissed when I take a bad beat. It doesn't help that money's involved.
Sometimes I can control that, sometimes I can't. I try to at least keep in mind how much better things are when I can, though.
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On August 08 2010 05:09 UniversalSnip wrote:Show nested quote +9. ***LACK OF AWARENESS OF BIOLOGICAL NEEDS
This isn't something to strive for, more of a side-effect of being in flow. I think you've misinterpreted this. Don't play when you're hungry or need to clear your bodily wastes, basically.
I'm pretty sure you misinterpreted it. I definitely don't eat as much or get tired as early when I play lots of video games, or when I'm working really hard on HW or a project or something (assuming I am into it and not hating it).
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Great post!:D
On August 08 2010 02:42 Loranga wrote: Or: 1. Stop taking video games seriously and play for fun (which it's supposed to be). For a lot of people the best part about starcraft 2 is the ranking, improving yourself, wanting to know everything about the game, if you think its fun to play in the bronze league for ever, go ahead.
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On August 08 2010 06:38 retro-noob wrote:Nice. :[ terran is the new protoss
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On August 08 2010 07:23 ZaaaaaM wrote:Great post!:D Show nested quote +On August 08 2010 02:42 Loranga wrote: Or: 1. Stop taking video games seriously and play for fun (which it's supposed to be). For a lot of people the best part about starcraft 2 is the ranking, improving yourself, wanting to know everything about the game, if you think its fun to play in the bronze league for ever, go ahead.
I hear this a lot, but if you look at pros they didn't just suddenly appear. They didn't go from bronze to pro in 6 months, it took years of practice and they still practice and play hard. Being the best isn't a sprint, it's a marathon. There's no reason to rush it, and every reason to have fun getting there.
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On August 08 2010 07:23 ZaaaaaM wrote:Great post!:D Show nested quote +On August 08 2010 02:42 Loranga wrote: Or: 1. Stop taking video games seriously and play for fun (which it's supposed to be). For a lot of people the best part about starcraft 2 is the ranking, improving yourself, wanting to know everything about the game, if you think its fun to play in the bronze league for ever, go ahead. I agree with you, but I do see his points. For a lot of us (actually the HUGE majority), SC is never going to be anything but a hobby to have fun with. From that perspective, you really shouldn't be too concerned with score/league/ranking... but you are ;-)
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On August 08 2010 03:03 Liquid`Tyler wrote: I think Liquid needs to hire this guy. E-sports psychologist!
Liquid'Psycho!
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i disagree
the best part about playing sc is winning and the way to measure winning is going up ranks. i can't change that if i wanted too, i enjoy winning too much :s.
i can't find a way to make me focus on something other then winning, and if i were to focus on other stuff starcraft wouldn't be as fun
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and my friends didnt believe me when i said that i could get "in the zone" a state of perfect micro, macro a magical time of relaxed stress, where everything is perfect.
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On August 08 2010 06:29 bendez wrote: Or play terran.
Fuck, you beat me to it. I was going to say:
How to get more fun (and less rage) out of SC2: switch to Terran.
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This is a fantastic post, and by the looks of it, from a relatively new member. Good read.
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Nice post, enjoyable read.
Flow - bit of a cheesy name though?
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But Blizzard has been telling me for years that I need more rage.
Speaking of clocks is there a clock you can turn on in SC2. I'm used to this from other RTS games and its pretty important, I'll have to go buy one I can put next to my computer if there isn't one.
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Awesome post man. Really touches on a lot of stuff that we already know just being starcraft players but its very nice reading it in a clear and organized post. +1
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