bwchart's effect has been gargantuan.
Who 'invented' APM - Page 9
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
bwchart's effect has been gargantuan. | ||
actionbastrd
Congo598 Posts
Thanks for making starcraft more awesome than it already was! :D Thank you poster below me | ||
rackdude
United States882 Posts
On December 02 2010 14:49 actionbastrd wrote: Speaking of the classic BW chart i used and loved, have you made one for sc2? Or do you feel blizzard covered everything in the new replay system or has it even been covered by another person? Thanks for making starcraft more awesome than it already was! :D Search SC2Gears. That's the equivalent for SC2. | ||
imbalanced.tv
United States82 Posts
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rigelq
United States230 Posts
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MusiK
United States302 Posts
But anyway, I think TL has a lot more power than we credit ourselves for. Yes, we think that every little bitch and whine we make is going unheard by Bliz, but obviously the world is watching! We should learn from this and understand that we should become more professional. We will make an impact on this gaming community, so lets not be idiots. =D | ||
MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
On December 02 2010 13:27 Jibba wrote: Also of note was the way BWChart was used to catch automining/MBS/multi-command cheats (which were standard for a lot of map hackers.) When you opened up a replay, you could see a timestamp for every single action down to the millisecond, so the people cheating had a record of simultaneously sending all their workers to mine within 5ms. There's a handful of strategy forum posts where someone would post their replays and then get caught. Pretty hilarious stuff. adeezy, he meant that LaptopLegacy was the first to actually say 'apm.' Everyone was saying stuff like 'action/min' before that. Thank you for answering my question on 2nd page that explains a lot as I was confused by the OP On December 02 2010 14:38 FrostOtter wrote: The reading comprehension levels in this thread make me never want to trust any strategy thread ever again. LoL you should already be holding everything to a microscope... BTW i know the OP is an icon of the community (as he should be) but I think he should get temp banned too! I mean he did make that pretty confusing and unclear (and yes I knew about links as well) but best thread I have been a part of so far lol | ||
jalstar
United States8198 Posts
Search "iccup who is who" in TL to see him at work. | ||
Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On December 02 2010 15:16 jalstar wrote: For those who don't know, BwChart was also used to find progamer smurf accounts. like banana.milk? good times | ||
solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
Thanks jca! | ||
uglymoose89
United States671 Posts
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Gonzodamus
United States273 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On December 02 2010 15:36 uglymoose89 wrote: So if jca invented APM, then how long did it take for the Korean Pro scene to use it in their analysis of the players? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=46915 Sometime in 2006, so about 3 years. | ||
Prophecy3
Canada223 Posts
On December 02 2010 13:22 Nexic wrote: I'm guessing you just didn't notice, but the underlined text in the OP is a link No I didn't realize that actually, thank you. | ||
AidanS
39 Posts
It's nice to see the impact generated from members posting here but surely a comment on the eventual results (such as the glowy apm keyboard) has a place too along with the (merited) pride/backslapping and nostalgia? With that said it is deeply impressive to a fan of the game how people who have posted here have shaped what I play now with their past contributions. Perhaps it could open a wider discussion on whether APM as a measure was a hurtful thing to strategy gaming? Certainly I had no desire to even try to play SCBW when I heard the APM necessary to even play with basic competence. Im sure a lot of other people who otherwise enjoy strategy games were put off trying RTS by the intimidation factor that measure brought. SC2 has moved in the direction where you can play the game easily with non superhuman handspeed making APM a much less relevant measure. Seems a bit strange that Blizzard/accessory makers are jumping on the APM train when it isn't what it used to be in importance to the majority of people playing the current SC compared to the old SC. Obviously its still great for e-sports since any edge is an edge but that seems like a super small market for a keyboard. | ||
Khanz
France214 Posts
Damn i love all these warnings, no sarcasm here, but a lot of people just do not read the OP unfortunately. I really like the fact APM was invented here on TL and all the following in the razer marketing to use the term APM as strong slogan. | ||
kusu
Sweden440 Posts
That is just super... no wait... MEGA-AWESOME! TL, or more importantly JCA, i'm impressed. <3 | ||
slip.
United States50 Posts
BW FOREVER!!! | ||
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