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Or it could just be air conditioning being turned on. Some people (ok maybe just me) get cold when they're put up on stage with thousands of eyes staring at them.
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I always get cold when I play StarCraft. It can be adrenaline or the fact that your not moving much just your hands, you get cold. Watch players in any tournament they likely have a few layers on.
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dont see how you guys get cold when playing. My heart is pumping and i am sweating !
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I'm pretty sure Korea is freezing cold in the winter. They're probably wearing jackets because it's winter. The jackets come off when they're playing, from what I've seen.
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But even John is running around with a coat on.... All the fans have coats on it seems when they come down to view the GSL. You think they would pay the heat bill and get that thing up to a reasonable level...being a professional event and all...
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From the article it seems that only public agencies are effected by the energy conservation laws. As for the handwarmers and jackets... when I play I am usually wearing sweatpants and a hoodie because (even though its 72 F in my room) i get really really cold while playing starcraft, especially my hands.
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they shud invent keyboard or mice which get heated while plugged in like a heating pad just its build inside ur hardware =)
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On January 28 2011 03:20 camster91 wrote: I always get cold when I play StarCraft. It can be adrenaline or the fact that your not moving much just your hands, you get cold. Watch players in any tournament they likely have a few layers on.
Adrenaline would just negate the feeling of cold.
Maybe the fact that south korea is in the middle of winter, is a reason why it is so cold? =|
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On January 28 2011 03:27 Dakmaniac wrote: they shud invent keyboard or mice which get heated while plugged in like a heating pad just its build inside ur hardware =)
the thermaltake challenger/challenger ultimate/challenger pro have fans on them to cool your hands
http://usa.ttesports.com/Category_Keyboard.aspx
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if you've ever been to a TV studio you would know why its cold. The ceiling is high, the room bis big, they usually don't have air conditioning or heating on during filming because the systems make noise (the acoustics in studio's make everything louder) and nearly everything inside is made of metal (which leeches heat from the room when cold).... combination..... cold studio during winter, boiling during summer.
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On January 28 2011 03:31 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2011 03:27 Dakmaniac wrote: they shud invent keyboard or mice which get heated while plugged in like a heating pad just its build inside ur hardware =) the thermaltake challenger/challenger ultimate/challenger pro have fans on them to cool your hands http://usa.ttesports.com/Category_Keyboard.aspx
That must be one of the most extragavant things in the world. And it is awesome.
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On January 28 2011 03:34 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2011 03:31 GHOSTCLAW wrote:On January 28 2011 03:27 Dakmaniac wrote: they shud invent keyboard or mice which get heated while plugged in like a heating pad just its build inside ur hardware =) the thermaltake challenger/challenger ultimate/challenger pro have fans on them to cool your hands http://usa.ttesports.com/Category_Keyboard.aspx That must be one of the most extragavant things in the world. And it is awesome.
Apparently not available in the UK. Bummer.
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From reading the article it sounds like the SK government is only restricting the heating of government buildings. Considering that GOM isn't a government agency I'd assume this wouldn't apply to their studios.
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yea its probably something to do with the fact that its winter... poor players! Good excuse to use hand warmers while sitting in my toasty bed.
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On January 28 2011 03:30 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2011 03:20 camster91 wrote: I always get cold when I play StarCraft. It can be adrenaline or the fact that your not moving much just your hands, you get cold. Watch players in any tournament they likely have a few layers on. Adrenaline would just negate the feeling of cold. Maybe the fact that south korea is in the middle of winter, is a reason why it is so cold? =|
This is wrong. Andrenaline will actually make your extremities (especially hands) cold. Starcraft simulates a fight or flight scenario in your brain (hence the adrenaline rush). Its a sympathetic nervous system response. This causes your body to pump less blood to non-essential areas (hands) and send blood to more areas like your core, brain, thighs. Things like hearing, vision, reaction time, heart rate all sharpen/increase. However, your hands get cold, due to lack of blood.
-Cent
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On January 28 2011 03:30 Zephirdd wrote: Adrenaline would just negate the feeling of cold.
Adrenaline can make you feel hot thats true but also you can get cold after the rush of adrenaline. Playing a few games you may get a few hits of adrenaline but once its over you may get cold then that process could start over again. I've heard Day9 point out this before, players layer up while gaming.
Edit: Never mind the answer above is much more scientific
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This thread needs more Jinro.
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i dont get why the hell you could possibly want to cool ur hands.. i want mine HEATED
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Thread indeed does need jinro to comment on it!
Btw Ghostclaw that cools your hands not heat them :/ Find one with a personal heater haha!
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On January 28 2011 03:27 Dakmaniac wrote: they shud invent keyboard or mice which get heated while plugged in like a heating pad just its build inside ur hardware =)
I saw something like this just a day ago. It was a heated mouse from a Japanese (gadget) site.
A quick search brought up these several products. Here are two: http://www.warmmouse.com/ http://gizmodo.com/215318/brando-usb-warming-mouse
And a warming mouse pad (HAHA): http://www.usbgeek.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=0593
My hands are usually cold in my office and at home(even when the room is warm), and it increases the pain in my arms/hands from working on the computer all day. Thinking about getting some heated USB gloves, or at least those hot packets.
Edit: emythrels answer seems fitting.
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I use a Razor DeathAdder. It has a pulsing light where your hand goes that kinda warms up when the light is on.....
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On January 28 2011 03:55 Jyxz wrote: i dont get why the hell you could possibly want to cool ur hands.. i want mine HEATED I have one of those keyboards. They don't really make your hands cold, but keep them dry if they start sweating.
And I have a deathadder, as well. I don't think that LED really provides heat. You're probably just imagining it.
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Or, the reason why everyone was wearing coats was that it's cold as balls outside in Korea atm. If you watched Artosis's video of the GSL house, it was snowing and everything.
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Just check the temperature ... its below zero (Celsius and not that stupid Farenheit) in Korea and will stay like that for some time.
However ... that is no excuse to have low temperatures in the arena because that actually affects the game. Just imagine if they were playing on a boat in rough seas ... some players would cope with that better than others I would think.
If their chosen venues are impossible to heat up they should choose different ones which can give fighting conditions worth playing in. This should include the option to move into a small studio which does not allow the option of people watching it live .... if necessary.
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For reference, the booths in Brood War had air conditioning / heating with a thermostat. It seems like GOM's don't have that but they probably should get it!
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I can only assume that they probably save money and energy at the studio by keeping their heating turned pretty low. It's really cold in Korea so people probably just leave their jackets on. Besides, it's not uncommon to leave a jacket on when you're walking around inside, even if you're sitting. You usually only take it off if you're at someone's house or something, in my opinion.
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On January 28 2011 04:21 Terin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2011 03:55 Jyxz wrote: i dont get why the hell you could possibly want to cool ur hands.. i want mine HEATED I have one of those keyboards. They don't really make your hands cold, but keep them dry if they start sweating. And I have a deathadder, as well. I don't think that LED really provides heat. You're probably just imagining it.
hehe, more than likely, but it feels warmer than my ol' microsoft 5 button :D
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I don't se ehow you guys get cold while playing in the winter when it's cold outside. i live in florida. hahah. but seriously korea is having a frigid winter, and it's super expensive to heat the studio a ton. but gamers like to be way above the sub-freezing temperature.
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I'm not sure about South Korea but in most Asian countries the heating can't be compared with how it is like in America. People are generally bundled up with layers of clothing all day. The heating system in US is build into the house covering every corner. While the heating system in Asia is like an air conditioner that only warms up one room.
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i bet you people are always going in and out as well, letting all the cold in!
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I dunno, any more electronic equipment involved and we could have jaedong v flash 2.0.
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On January 28 2011 03:48 Centorian wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2011 03:30 Zephirdd wrote:On January 28 2011 03:20 camster91 wrote: I always get cold when I play StarCraft. It can be adrenaline or the fact that your not moving much just your hands, you get cold. Watch players in any tournament they likely have a few layers on. Adrenaline would just negate the feeling of cold. Maybe the fact that south korea is in the middle of winter, is a reason why it is so cold? =| This is wrong. Andrenaline will actually make your extremities (especially hands) cold. Starcraft simulates a fight or flight scenario in your brain (hence the adrenaline rush). Its a sympathetic nervous system response. This causes your body to pump less blood to non-essential areas (hands) and send blood to more areas like your core, brain, thighs. Things like hearing, vision, reaction time, heart rate all sharpen/increase. However, your hands get cold, due to lack of blood. -Cent
That's weird. As far as experience tells me - I used to be a competitive swimmer so I had to actually control my adrenaline - adrenaline completly negates any sense of heat or cold. And even nowadays, if I pump out some adrenaline consciously(it is possible after training, common for athlethes, some of them aren't even aware that they can do it), I just lose the feeling of temperature, instead of getting cold or something. Maybe there is less blood, maybe my hands are actually cold, but I just don't feel it.
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WHat's strange is that studios with that kind of lighting rigged up are usually super warm.
Though now that I think of it there isn't that much lighting.
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On January 28 2011 04:47 Two_DoWn wrote: I dunno, any more electronic equipment involved and we could have jaedong v flash 2.0. Rofl^
Notice Jinro destroyed Idra when he had a coat on, but against MarinekingPrime when he had only a shirt, he lost
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Adrenaline directly affects your neurons and their ability to form connections by forcing open the same pathways that feel temperature and pain. During this period your body is unable to send signals back to the brain. The main problem with a colder climate and sc2 is that if your playing at any high speeds your brain is constantly sending and receiving messages as you rapidly move your hands and is unable to process temperature in these areas. So your hands won't feel cold, but they'll be sluggish. This poses a problem because it greatly affects your game play because its a hard thing to spot and fix during a game. I hope gom sorts this out.
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Don't they use floor heating for everything in Korea, thus any big-rooms, etc. tend to get really cold?
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surprised players don't bring there own space heaters... don't they get in the booths 1 match early typically...
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Temperatures for Seoul were forecast with highs of only -5 degrees C (22 F) through Friday and lows of -13 C (8 F) during that time. Wow that is nothing. I would kill to be able to consider -13 stupidly freezing cold during winter.
I suppose heating and energy stuff works a lot differently outside of NA though, I guess they can't throw infinite amounts of money into a fire to keep themselves warm
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this stuff would never fly in amerikuh, people would claim they have the right to be warm, i don't mind having regulation on heating because honestly i'd rather wear a jacket and save the planet rather than live in a 70 deg F environment all the time
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On January 28 2011 03:34 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2011 03:31 GHOSTCLAW wrote:On January 28 2011 03:27 Dakmaniac wrote: they shud invent keyboard or mice which get heated while plugged in like a heating pad just its build inside ur hardware =) the thermaltake challenger/challenger ultimate/challenger pro have fans on them to cool your hands http://usa.ttesports.com/Category_Keyboard.aspx That must be one of the most extragavant things in the world. And it is awesome.
You really just called a gaming keyboard "one of the most extravagant things in the world."
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I play SC2 with a snuggie on cause I ALWAYS am cold, being a little cold makes it hard to control your hands properly, they just are probably taking precautions of staying warm. Plus I think, they think that they look pretty cool in their leather parkas.
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On January 28 2011 03:27 Dakmaniac wrote: they shud invent keyboard or mice which get heated while plugged in like a heating pad just its build inside ur hardware =)
Mine 3 year's old laptop from HP has a nice heated keyboard ( or should I say overheated :D) I had to buy my self a cooling pad to make it not overheat it self too much while playing SC2
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wish the entire world would put their thermal stats to 18c, it's really not that bad...
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We should send Idra and Jinro Snuggies!!! Thats what we need to do!
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I do believe it’s a result of the computer fans and poor ventilation in the booths and regional physics phenomenon. In South Korea a flowing current in a closed environment can somehow slowly lower the environment's temperature until the point of sub freezing. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death for more info.
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doesnt adrenaline pull blood from your extremities in order to fuel the "core" of your buddy more? that would probably equate to the cold hands.
I could be wrong but i thought that was the case
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Temperatures for Seoul were forecast with highs of only -5 degrees C (22 F) through Friday and lows of -13 C (8 F) during that time.
Hah. Like the other guy said, that's not so impressive. We had a couple -30 (celsius) days in a row recently. Fun times.
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Uuuuuuuuh... does OP not understand what "public" means? Last time I checked, SK isn't communist, so gretech isn't owned by the government, so they have no energy restrictions.
On January 29 2011 04:06 TeH_Murmur wrote: Temperatures for Seoul were forecast with highs of only -5 degrees C (22 F) through Friday and lows of -13 C (8 F) during that time.
Hah. Like the other guy said, that's not so impressive. We had a couple -30 (celsius) days in a row recently. Fun times. Yeah, I've checked the temps in Seoul and compared them against my location (Maryland). It's been colder here almost every day, which really isn't that cold.
I just wear a hoodie when I go outside and I'm fine.On January 29 2011 01:04 SCdinner wrote:I do believe it’s a result of the computer fans and poor ventilation in the booths and regional physics phenomenon. In South Korea a flowing current in a closed environment can somehow slowly lower the environment's temperature until the point of sub freezing. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death for more info. ahahahah
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On January 29 2011 04:06 TeH_Murmur wrote: Temperatures for Seoul were forecast with highs of only -5 degrees C (22 F) through Friday and lows of -13 C (8 F) during that time.
Hah. Like the other guy said, that's not so impressive. We had a couple -30 (celsius) days in a row recently. Fun times.
I live in iowa...thats exactly our weather...why the hell would I want to go to korea now... like paying 3k to travel to Iowa 2.0. That would be pretty miserable.
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I can sweat sometimes when I play SC, but usually just a bit in my armpits. If my hands are cold, I just run to the bathroom sink and run my hands under hot water for a bit.
Although I am trying to find where I can buy those fabric hand warmers that they use in the GSL? I've been trying to find some for so long...
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On January 29 2011 04:17 purecarnagge wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2011 04:06 TeH_Murmur wrote: Temperatures for Seoul were forecast with highs of only -5 degrees C (22 F) through Friday and lows of -13 C (8 F) during that time.
Hah. Like the other guy said, that's not so impressive. We had a couple -30 (celsius) days in a row recently. Fun times. I live in iowa...thats exactly our weather...why the hell would I want to go to korea now... like paying 3k to travel to Iowa 2.0. That would be pretty miserable. For some reason though I live in Canada and visiting Korea this winter the -10 degrees Celsius there seems to be as cold or even colder than the -20 degrees Celsius here in Canada.
As for the government energy restrictions that's rather odd.
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Why dont they have one of these inside the booths?
It heats the air incredibly fast, dossent even matter if theres poor isolation, it will keep the air around it warm.
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I would assume it has more to do with the space just not being heated well, and right now it's extremly cold in korea. I'm sure come the warm months you'll hear players complaining about how hot it is in the booths.
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On January 29 2011 04:53 metzGRR wrote:Why dont they have one of these inside the booths? It heats the air incredibly fast, dossent even matter if theres poor isolation, it will keep the air around it warm.
Probably because it's easier for a player to control the amount of warmth in the booth via clothing and hand warmers; rather then someone getting into the both and being uncomfortable with the heat and not being able to do much about it without waiting for heat to dissapate from the both.
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On January 28 2011 03:55 Jyxz wrote: i dont get why the hell you could possibly want to cool ur hands.. i want mine HEATED There are actually mice with heating. I'd really like to have one but I'm not sure they're good enough for gaming. Except for maybe the hottest weeks in the summer my apartment never gets warmer than ~19°C/ 66°F and my hands always get really cold when I sit at the computer. The AC/DC adapter for my soundcard gets quite hot so I usually warm my hands on it
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Honestly, I wear a jacket even if I'm playing in a warm room. As others have mentioned, it's common to feel cold under the stress of a competitive game. I used to have the exact same reaction to exams, and competitive chess games.
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cold hands always ocurrs when playing SC in anything else than summer. i have 20C in my room and i play with a hoodie. Sometimes i get really hot while playing but my hands are unbelievably cold still
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WOW anyone see this at the end of the article?
The heating restrictions are level one of the country's energy-saving plans. If they don't work, level two bans decorative lighting; level three bans the use of elevators below the fifth floor of buildings, limits the use of indoor lighting and allows employees to drive to work only every other day; level four bans all driving to work and mandates early closure of public buildings.
Rofl sup you can't go to work, enjoy being jobless and then eventually homeless
oh also if you're handicapped and use a wheelchair, sucks to be you because you're going to be rollin up the stairs to get to your fourth floor office.
LOL KOREA
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On January 29 2011 05:36 -orb- wrote:WOW anyone see this at the end of the article? Show nested quote +The heating restrictions are level one of the country's energy-saving plans. If they don't work, level two bans decorative lighting; level three bans the use of elevators below the fifth floor of buildings, limits the use of indoor lighting and allows employees to drive to work only every other day; level four bans all driving to work and mandates early closure of public buildings. Rofl sup you can't go to work, enjoy being jobless and then eventually homeless oh also if you're handicapped and use a wheelchair, sucks to be you because you're going to be rollin up the stairs to get to your fourth floor office. LOL KOREA
well at least they're doing something for the environment/power consumption... -_-
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On January 28 2011 03:31 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2011 03:27 Dakmaniac wrote: they shud invent keyboard or mice which get heated while plugged in like a heating pad just its build inside ur hardware =) the thermaltake challenger/challenger ultimate/challenger pro have fans on them to cool your hands http://usa.ttesports.com/Category_Keyboard.aspx
Go from energy restrictions to heated mouses. I think suggesting a keyboard with a cooling fan is the wrong direction.
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On January 29 2011 05:36 -orb- wrote:WOW anyone see this at the end of the article? Show nested quote +The heating restrictions are level one of the country's energy-saving plans. If they don't work, level two bans decorative lighting; level three bans the use of elevators below the fifth floor of buildings, limits the use of indoor lighting and allows employees to drive to work only every other day; level four bans all driving to work and mandates early closure of public buildings. Rofl sup you can't go to work, enjoy being jobless and then eventually homeless oh also if you're handicapped and use a wheelchair, sucks to be you because you're going to be rollin up the stairs to get to your fourth floor office. LOL KOREA Do you not know how to walk? In Korea, most people don't drive to work. Again: This is for PUBLIC buildings, NOT private. On January 29 2011 05:48 imyzhang wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2011 05:36 -orb- wrote:WOW anyone see this at the end of the article? The heating restrictions are level one of the country's energy-saving plans. If they don't work, level two bans decorative lighting; level three bans the use of elevators below the fifth floor of buildings, limits the use of indoor lighting and allows employees to drive to work only every other day; level four bans all driving to work and mandates early closure of public buildings. Rofl sup you can't go to work, enjoy being jobless and then eventually homeless oh also if you're handicapped and use a wheelchair, sucks to be you because you're going to be rollin up the stairs to get to your fourth floor office. LOL KOREA well at least they're doing something for the environment/power consumption... -_- Yeah, because energy consumption is really ruining the environment /sarcasm.
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On January 29 2011 05:36 -orb- wrote:WOW anyone see this at the end of the article? Show nested quote +The heating restrictions are level one of the country's energy-saving plans. If they don't work, level two bans decorative lighting; level three bans the use of elevators below the fifth floor of buildings, limits the use of indoor lighting and allows employees to drive to work only every other day; level four bans all driving to work and mandates early closure of public buildings. Rofl sup you can't go to work, enjoy being jobless and then eventually homeless oh also if you're handicapped and use a wheelchair, sucks to be you because you're going to be rollin up the stairs to get to your fourth floor office. LOL KOREA In most parts of the world it is actually possible to get to work without driving. You can for instance walk, cycle, take the bus or take the train. Personally I walk the 10-15 minutes it takes me to get to work.
You might say that you have to take your children to kindergarten or something? Well, my neighbor cycles and the kid rides a small wagon attached behind the bicycle and the he cycles to work. (Might have been kinda cold the weeks with -15 to -25 degrees Celsius right before Christmas). I do have some co-workers that would have been quite lost without a car, but most would manage to get to work in some way or another.
Btw, the Koreans are probably conserving electricity because they haven't scaled the power production or transport to handle cold winters. In Norway we have some similar problems when we get -15 on the west-coast where it's normally +5 in winter.
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Show nested quote +On January 29 2011 05:36 -orb- wrote:WOW anyone see this at the end of the article? The heating restrictions are level one of the country's energy-saving plans. If they don't work, level two bans decorative lighting; level three bans the use of elevators below the fifth floor of buildings, limits the use of indoor lighting and allows employees to drive to work only every other day; level four bans all driving to work and mandates early closure of public buildings. Rofl sup you can't go to work, enjoy being jobless and then eventually homeless oh also if you're handicapped and use a wheelchair, sucks to be you because you're going to be rollin up the stairs to get to your fourth floor office. LOL KOREA well at least they're doing something for the environment/power consumption... -_- Yeah, because energy consumption is really ruining the environment /sarcasm.
Er you realize to get most of that energy, you burn fossil fuel/natural gas, right?
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On January 29 2011 06:51 scion wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2011 05:36 -orb- wrote:WOW anyone see this at the end of the article? The heating restrictions are level one of the country's energy-saving plans. If they don't work, level two bans decorative lighting; level three bans the use of elevators below the fifth floor of buildings, limits the use of indoor lighting and allows employees to drive to work only every other day; level four bans all driving to work and mandates early closure of public buildings. Rofl sup you can't go to work, enjoy being jobless and then eventually homeless oh also if you're handicapped and use a wheelchair, sucks to be you because you're going to be rollin up the stairs to get to your fourth floor office. LOL KOREA well at least they're doing something for the environment/power consumption... -_- Yeah, because energy consumption is really ruining the environment /sarcasm. Er you realize to get most of that energy, you burn fossil fuel/natural gas, right?
what u talkin about man, energy comes from rivers.
...in Brazil
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I expected perky nipples in this one.... too sad
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I usually put on jackets even when its pretty hot mainly to calm my nerves and help warm my hands. For coats though, it might just be really cold in that booth.
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On January 29 2011 04:53 metzGRR wrote:Why dont they have one of these inside the booths? It heats the air incredibly fast, dossent even matter if theres poor isolation, it will keep the air around it warm.
MSL tried this last year. It overloaded the circuit and caused a power outage at a crucial moment of game 3 during the most hyped finals of the last several years.
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I'm sure the temperature is just fine, because Tasteoisis are only wearing blazers, those things aren't very warm.
Thing is, even when it's hot in LA I'll wear a sweatshirt to a tourney to make sure my body gets loose enough, once I feel the heat after playing awhile I take it off and can keep playing normally. A lot of people do this, when they jog or do exercises, they warm up with layers on to get their muscles relaxed and stretched out, I don't know if this is the reason but guessing how Tasteoisis dress and they don't feel effected by the cold.
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On January 29 2011 07:21 heyoka wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2011 04:53 metzGRR wrote:Why dont they have one of these inside the booths? It heats the air incredibly fast, dossent even matter if theres poor isolation, it will keep the air around it warm. MSL tried this last year. It overloaded the circuit and caused a power outage at a crucial moment of game 3 during the most hyped finals of the last several years. Was that the game between Flash and Jaedong where they gave the winner+ Show Spoiler + his win based on who had the advantage at the time?
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I know lots of people that wear jackets indoors when it is cold outside. Just easier to keep it on than take off.
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Yeah it's easier to keep on a jacket or a coat than it is to take it off. I always get frustrated when I go somewhere that's super heated but I'm wearing a jacket because it's cold outside.
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In one of the state of the game pre-show podcast Idra was asked "if the GSL booths were cold?". To which he replied "no, they are pretty warm." I just believe they wear coats because it pretty cold in Korea. You also can get cold hands from the adrenaline, there was a post about it and being nervous before games as well.
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On January 29 2011 05:36 -orb- wrote:WOW anyone see this at the end of the article? Show nested quote +The heating restrictions are level one of the country's energy-saving plans. If they don't work, level two bans decorative lighting; level three bans the use of elevators below the fifth floor of buildings, limits the use of indoor lighting and allows employees to drive to work only every other day; level four bans all driving to work and mandates early closure of public buildings. Rofl sup you can't go to work, enjoy being jobless and then eventually homeless oh also if you're handicapped and use a wheelchair, sucks to be you because you're going to be rollin up the stairs to get to your fourth floor office. LOL KOREA
well now I know why every hates you so much lmao.
Do you truly believe that handicapped people would not be allowed exceptions? No you don't but your imbecile so you said it anyways.
Do you also believe that not driving to work entails not going to work? same thing.
Anyways, I think stuff like this might be part of the reason that people didn't show up to some of the earlier matches, like when boxer played and there were like 5 people in the audience.
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On January 29 2011 06:17 Buddhist wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2011 05:36 -orb- wrote:WOW anyone see this at the end of the article? The heating restrictions are level one of the country's energy-saving plans. If they don't work, level two bans decorative lighting; level three bans the use of elevators below the fifth floor of buildings, limits the use of indoor lighting and allows employees to drive to work only every other day; level four bans all driving to work and mandates early closure of public buildings. Rofl sup you can't go to work, enjoy being jobless and then eventually homeless oh also if you're handicapped and use a wheelchair, sucks to be you because you're going to be rollin up the stairs to get to your fourth floor office. LOL KOREA well at least they're doing something for the environment/power consumption... -_- Yeah, because energy consumption is really ruining the environment /sarcasm.[/QUOTE] And here is something for the ignorant american:
1. Most americans use "air condotioning" to control the temperature in their buildings and the offices. Skyscrapers needs A LOT of that and you could not make it work with "sensible ways of heating", you would need less high buildings.
2. In any techical process where you convert energy (i.e. burning coal to get electricity or using electricity to get heat) you will LOSE a BIG CHUNK of the energy you are starting and thus with more transformation processes it gets worse and worse. The ratio for coal power plant is roughly 35%, so only a good third of the energy stored in the coal is actually transferred into electricity. The reverse process is equally not great and far from 100%. So with electrical heating you ARE contributing to global warming by creating more CO2 than you would need if you used the coal directly.
I hope this clears up a few misconceptions ... oh and energy consumption IS ruining the environment, thus we need to take every possible step - however small - to reduce it.
We didnt inherit this world from our parents, we only borrowed it from our children.
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On January 28 2011 03:31 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2011 03:27 Dakmaniac wrote: they shud invent keyboard or mice which get heated while plugged in like a heating pad just its build inside ur hardware =) the thermaltake challenger/challenger ultimate/challenger pro have fans on them to cool your hands http://usa.ttesports.com/Category_Keyboard.aspx
lol thats so cool... i kinda wanna do that... cuz even when it's cold in my house... my palms still get really sweaty when playing SC2
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well the studios i've been to were deliberately kept cold because the lighting for the studios can make the room really hot, and they have to compesate by keeping the studio cold
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And here is something for the ignorant american:
Keep your bigotry out of it.
But yes, excess energy consumption is a cause for global concern. I'm glad to see Korea doing something but I bet it has more to do with economy and national security than it does with saving the world.
Put me down on the list of people who get super cold playing SC2. I often play bundled up in my slippers and afghan. I have enough trouble keeping my fingers moving when I'm playing -- I can't imagine how the pros do it if they're so cold!
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On January 28 2011 03:27 Dakmaniac wrote: they shud invent keyboard or mice which get heated while plugged in like a heating pad just its build inside ur hardware =) ur a genius!!! omg!
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since it's so hot in asia during the summer a lot of buildings dont even have insulation in them. so even if it's a bit cold it will stay cold inside(sometimes colder than outside) so that could be the reason it's just cold in general. I know in my apartment here i have to wear sweat pants/sweat shirt/slippers etc but back at home in canada during the winter with negative degrees you had insulation and a heater so you could just wear shorts
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On January 29 2011 08:25 SpawnMoreOverlords wrote: In one of the state of the game pre-show podcast Idra was asked "if the GSL booths were cold?". To which he replied "no, they are pretty warm." I just believe they wear coats because it pretty cold in Korea. You also can get cold hands from the adrenaline, there was a post about it and being nervous before games as well. Indeed. It's not hard to wear winter clothes indoors. Worst case scenario, you sit on your hands to get them warm if you have no hand warmers.
Edit: Retracting a rebuttal to the guy who called me an "ignorant American", because I've actually researched the subject and he clearly hasn't, and that kind of argument would be purely negative on TL. I will just say though: I said energy consumption is not a cause of environmental harm. I never said anything about fossil fuels themselves (which obviously can be).
However, do some RESEARCH on the subject. Look at some primary sources (NOT news articles). Check yourself if the data you're looking at is legitimate (hasn't been altered). Don't repeat what you've been told ad nauseam when someone seems to disagree with you. It doesn't make you look cool :/.
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On January 28 2011 05:10 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2011 03:48 Centorian wrote:
This is wrong. Andrenaline will actually make your extremities (especially hands) cold. Starcraft simulates a fight or flight scenario in your brain (hence the adrenaline rush). Its a sympathetic nervous system response. This causes your body to pump less blood to non-essential areas (hands) and send blood to more areas like your core, brain, thighs. Things like hearing, vision, reaction time, heart rate all sharpen/increase. However, your hands get cold, due to lack of blood.
-Cent That's weird. As far as experience tells me - I used to be a competitive swimmer so I had to actually control my adrenaline - adrenaline completly negates any sense of heat or cold. And even nowadays, if I pump out some adrenaline consciously(it is possible after training, common for athlethes, some of them aren't even aware that they can do it), I just lose the feeling of temperature, instead of getting cold or something. Maybe there is less blood, maybe my hands are actually cold, but I just don't feel it.
I used to swim competitively too. In the swimming pool you end up burning hot because sweating has no cooling effect. You don't feel that while you swim but immediately afterwards, I just glow red.
I think in sports you don't notice because it doesn't require fine movements of the hand like SC2 does. When I play SC2 my hands don't feel cold while I'm playing they just stop moving as fast as I want them to and only when I stop playing do they really feel cold.
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I think just all gaming convention places are freezing to make sure computers don't overheat. Plus it is a lot easier to put on an extra layer of clothing to keep warm than to take off clothing to get cool.
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Apparently Julyzerg prefers playing with his his hands cold, and he's got ridiculous APM. Houses in Japan have no Insulation.. much to my dismay.. and are heated by shitty air con systems, you turn them off and the room immediately goes freezing cold. Maybe Korea is the same?
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During MLG Dallas people also froze, used hand warmers etc.
I assume it's just a combination of climate (Winter, duh), the way your body operates while playing (extended limbs) and the little amount of actual movement during playing, excluding the hands and eyes.
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