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On April 07 2011 21:48 Marcus420 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2011 21:45 mumakil wrote:On April 07 2011 21:40 FliedLice wrote:On April 07 2011 21:20 Inori wrote: @ OP
can you please give me a slight hope that you will turn Automaton into a fully working AI bot that we could play on bnet? Like actually "Insane" AI, instead of the cheating crap we got from Blizzard. So that Zergling vs Tank AI isn't cheating? ...right In theory it isnt actually cheating a human could do it if he knew exactly how the tank targeting works also he would need like 8000 apm or something ridicilous like that so we will actually never get to see it(until that razor april fools machine becomes a reality at least). Oh also the human player would have to have the game sense to see which zergling would be targetted next(as the op says its the closest one so u should be able to deduce it :D) so not actually cheating just playing really really fast :D also theres a world of difference between a maphack and a extra minerals hack for the AI when we can make the games more fair by just giving them uber micro. A player cant over come extra minerals and extra info but he can overcome better control(how much better control a player can overcome is debatable but still the point stands :D) No human could do that. period. This would be a CHEAT if used on ladder. Dont argue that its not.
And who said anything about using it on Ladder? Read more carefully before posting comments like that.
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United States7483 Posts
While the marine video I think is crazy to watch, if you think about the micro involved, the zergling vs. siege tank one was far more impressive. I mean holy shit: not one tank did splash damage.
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Edit: Regarding the zerglings splitting before the shot lands. The script is capable of determining which zergling that is going to take the next blow. When a tank starts aiming (when its target dies for example), the bot predicts it's gonna fire at the closest zergling and executes a split the AI of Starcraft 2 is very predictable in that meaning..
After reading your edit on the Zergling micro, would it work if the T microed the tanks to fire at specific targets? As they don't overkill, you could basically shift-attack through the bunch, and if aiming for the middle lings, the casualties could be about just as severe as if the lings were unmicroed. You could probably still write a script that slice the lings into a number of groups, two that are 'outside' the target line, and one that is inside. The middle line would then be sliced into smaller groups, as it is not known which zergling will be targeted.
Have an automaton to control the tanks, and another one to control the lings - let havoc ensue!
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oh my god that was insane, i wish i had micro like automaton
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blink stalkers vs anything! gogo
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You should try making a full AI for people to play against! This is amazing.
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this was very cool to watch. But yes, i'd like to see automaton vs automaton. Blink stalkers owning everything would be fun.
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very great video showing the great potential unit control has over just 1a.
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That rine video is just so awesome, the zling one is just more hilarious with all the zlings "jumping" out of the way(kinda picturing it more visually than just the screen )
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Your automation 2000 was using Razer's Talon exo-skeleton wasn't it.
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If someone ever actually pulled off that marine micro in game I would shit my pants.
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wowowowowow this is really damn cool, I would pay money to see automaton vs automaton showmatch lol.
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In the zerglings vs tanks, it's not micro, your bot is cheating by using the info of which ling is targetted. Even with perfect micro, it is not possible to achieve with normal information.
Marine vs bannelings is different, it really shows the limit of the unit. But to be fair, the bannelings sould also be controlled by a bot.
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how about hydras + overlords vs colossi? Since colossi don't deal damage at the beginning of their attack animation, couldn't you pick up the units before the damage is dealt and waste all their shots?
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...holy shit, that's ridiculous. The ling splitting is unreal. Nice work.
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lol awesome videos, you seriously made my day.
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if marineking had something even close to that, that would be so imbalanced. lol nice vids
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On April 08 2011 02:33 dudeman001 wrote: how about hydras + overlords vs colossi? Since colossi don't deal damage at the beginning of their attack animation, couldn't you pick up the units before the damage is dealt and waste all their shots?
thats a good idea.
Perhaps another one could be perfect phoenix micro vs mutas.
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Edit: Never mind, went back and read rest of post.
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Bosnia-Herzegovina114 Posts
Holy mother of ... I just found my new favorite videos. Can you guys imagine a tournament where Automaton 2000 plays vs humans? :-0
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