On the other side, I do think Terran is one of the hardest race, if not the hardest race to play at high level.
Zerg is easier in maccro but needs more of timing / game sense.
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On the other side, I do think Terran is one of the hardest race, if not the hardest race to play at high level. Zerg is easier in maccro but needs more of timing / game sense. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES48987 Posts
On April 24 2011 18:56 Chainfire99 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 24 2011 18:52 BLinD-RawR wrote: On April 24 2011 18:36 Chainfire99 wrote: On April 24 2011 18:27 zeru wrote: On April 24 2011 12:24 avilo wrote: Glad that a high profile Terran player finally said what every other Terran is thinking but doesn't wanna get flamed for Lets keep it that way. I'd rather we terrans don't resort to forum qqing and stick to trying to find better ways to play our race. I'll be sad if terrans start becoming like many zergs on these forums. On April 24 2011 17:44 Chainfire99 wrote: On April 24 2011 17:38 dunc wrote: On April 24 2011 17:36 Chainfire99 wrote: On April 24 2011 17:25 Darclite wrote: And regarding the whole "Terran has received nerf after nerf," so has protoss. Zealot: amount of shield decreased and build time increased. Stalker: Minor change to base damage but decrease to worth of upgrades Sentry: Damage decreased and force fields made destructible by massive units High Templar: Radius of Psi Storm decreased, Khaydarin Amulet removed Immortal: Build time increased by 15 seconds Colossus: Damage decreased Void Ray: Damage decreased, armor decreased, cost increased, range decreased, damage decreased again, flux vanes removed from the game. Mothership: Build time increased, food cost increased, number of attacks decreased, shield decreased, health decreased, acceleration decreased, and vortex screwed up. The only thing I can think of that was helped was the phoenix, getting the buff to build time and moving shot. So...yeah, protoss has gotten the same deal as terran in this regard. yea...life's hard when you're a toss. ahaha Shocking that 8 of your posts are crying about Protoss. Honestly get over yourself, just because you play a race doesn't mean it's the hardest. Stalk much? Creeepy btw there aren't 8/17 posts crying about toss, liar. Maybe a couple critical posts in the past but that's it. Learn to count. When you got banned for 2 out of 17 posts, and several other posts of those are QQ posts, you should probably realize you're doing something wrong. Who is talking to you? Mind your business, stalker #2. you see..when people whine about something like imbalance the other person check his post history to see if he has complained imbalance before so that they can report you to the mods and you can be dealt with. Ahh yes because imbalance doesn't exist in the world of starcraft. If that were true the game would never be patched nor maps modified. Large maps hurt terran. I can't agree with something that was said in an interview? I'll keep that in mind. This might as well be 1984! I never said imbalance doesn't exist,I said whining about it doesn't help,especially on TL because Blizzard pays more attention to their own forums. large maps don't hurt Terran,they are disadvantaged,but I think we can figure something out before we need to decide if a patch is needed to fix that.Likje I said Ghots and Ravens haven't been explored that much in TvZ and TvP(well ghost are part of the main army in TvP) | ||
Butterz
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
As for the balance discussion, suffice to say that recent statistics (including on the big maps) do not reinforce MVPs argument. In fact, they do quite the opposite. | ||
Chainfire99
Canada474 Posts
On April 24 2011 19:02 dunc wrote: Show nested quote + On April 24 2011 18:36 Chainfire99 wrote: On April 24 2011 18:27 zeru wrote: On April 24 2011 12:24 avilo wrote: Glad that a high profile Terran player finally said what every other Terran is thinking but doesn't wanna get flamed for Lets keep it that way. I'd rather we terrans don't resort to forum qqing and stick to trying to find better ways to play our race. I'll be sad if terrans start becoming like many zergs on these forums. On April 24 2011 17:44 Chainfire99 wrote: On April 24 2011 17:38 dunc wrote: On April 24 2011 17:36 Chainfire99 wrote: On April 24 2011 17:25 Darclite wrote: And regarding the whole "Terran has received nerf after nerf," so has protoss. Zealot: amount of shield decreased and build time increased. Stalker: Minor change to base damage but decrease to worth of upgrades Sentry: Damage decreased and force fields made destructible by massive units High Templar: Radius of Psi Storm decreased, Khaydarin Amulet removed Immortal: Build time increased by 15 seconds Colossus: Damage decreased Void Ray: Damage decreased, armor decreased, cost increased, range decreased, damage decreased again, flux vanes removed from the game. Mothership: Build time increased, food cost increased, number of attacks decreased, shield decreased, health decreased, acceleration decreased, and vortex screwed up. The only thing I can think of that was helped was the phoenix, getting the buff to build time and moving shot. So...yeah, protoss has gotten the same deal as terran in this regard. yea...life's hard when you're a toss. ahaha Shocking that 8 of your posts are crying about Protoss. Honestly get over yourself, just because you play a race doesn't mean it's the hardest. Stalk much? Creeepy btw there aren't 8/17 posts crying about toss, liar. Maybe a couple critical posts in the past but that's it. Learn to count. When you got banned for 2 out of 17 posts, and several other posts of those are QQ posts, you should probably realize you're doing something wrong. Who is talking to you? Mind your business, stalker #2. I remembered the post you got banned for when Naniwa was playing, it's not hard to spend 10 seconds looking through a few posts. "Stalker" aside, you're not contributing. You're posting like the average battle.net browser. Honestly, we have too much imbalance whine on these forums already.. mostly coming from Zergplayers. I hope Terrans won't start as well just because mvp said something. Remember a month ago where he said he was thinking about switching races? It's a joke, people like MMA, Ryung, Bomber, MVP himself and MarineKing show that the class is far from weak. And you're contributing by flaming others? rofl. How is stating a fact about map size in relation to races whining about perceived imbalances? I'm not whining about specific units/builds/or strategies. So let me get this straight. It's accepted that close spawn positions for zerg is unfair to the race. It's accepted that steppes of war and lost temple favored terran. But it's unacceptable for me to agree with a pro player that large maps are unfavorable to terran ( not a huge disadvantage)? | ||
quRax
Korea (South)264 Posts
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Chainfire99
Canada474 Posts
On April 24 2011 19:03 BLinD-RawR wrote: Show nested quote + On April 24 2011 18:56 Chainfire99 wrote: On April 24 2011 18:52 BLinD-RawR wrote: On April 24 2011 18:36 Chainfire99 wrote: On April 24 2011 18:27 zeru wrote: On April 24 2011 12:24 avilo wrote: Glad that a high profile Terran player finally said what every other Terran is thinking but doesn't wanna get flamed for Lets keep it that way. I'd rather we terrans don't resort to forum qqing and stick to trying to find better ways to play our race. I'll be sad if terrans start becoming like many zergs on these forums. On April 24 2011 17:44 Chainfire99 wrote: On April 24 2011 17:38 dunc wrote: On April 24 2011 17:36 Chainfire99 wrote: On April 24 2011 17:25 Darclite wrote: And regarding the whole "Terran has received nerf after nerf," so has protoss. Zealot: amount of shield decreased and build time increased. Stalker: Minor change to base damage but decrease to worth of upgrades Sentry: Damage decreased and force fields made destructible by massive units High Templar: Radius of Psi Storm decreased, Khaydarin Amulet removed Immortal: Build time increased by 15 seconds Colossus: Damage decreased Void Ray: Damage decreased, armor decreased, cost increased, range decreased, damage decreased again, flux vanes removed from the game. Mothership: Build time increased, food cost increased, number of attacks decreased, shield decreased, health decreased, acceleration decreased, and vortex screwed up. The only thing I can think of that was helped was the phoenix, getting the buff to build time and moving shot. So...yeah, protoss has gotten the same deal as terran in this regard. yea...life's hard when you're a toss. ahaha Shocking that 8 of your posts are crying about Protoss. Honestly get over yourself, just because you play a race doesn't mean it's the hardest. Stalk much? Creeepy btw there aren't 8/17 posts crying about toss, liar. Maybe a couple critical posts in the past but that's it. Learn to count. When you got banned for 2 out of 17 posts, and several other posts of those are QQ posts, you should probably realize you're doing something wrong. Who is talking to you? Mind your business, stalker #2. you see..when people whine about something like imbalance the other person check his post history to see if he has complained imbalance before so that they can report you to the mods and you can be dealt with. Ahh yes because imbalance doesn't exist in the world of starcraft. If that were true the game would never be patched nor maps modified. Large maps hurt terran. I can't agree with something that was said in an interview? I'll keep that in mind. This might as well be 1984! I never said imbalance doesn't exist,I said whining about it doesn't help,especially on TL because Blizzard pays more attention to their own forums. large maps don't hurt Terran,they are disadvantaged,but I think we can figure something out before we need to decide if a patch is needed to fix that.) You are right. Imbalance discussion is pointless here. I guess map discussion is put in the same boat. My bad. | ||
Horse...falcon
United States1851 Posts
On a separate note, the SlayerS teamhouse has got to be crazy swank with all that Intel money. | ||
Piski
Finland3461 Posts
On April 24 2011 19:13 Chainfire99 wrote: You are right. Imbalance discussion is pointless here. I guess map discussion is put in the same boat. My bad. Not sure if you're being sarcastic but at least you got it completely right :o To be on point. Great videos from Artosis! I just wish you wouldn't have named the thread the way you did but doesn't matter I guess. I hope you can do TSL house tour in the future. I want to see how FD and Cliiiiiide lives. | ||
StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
if anyone knows, is IM sponsored now? | ||
pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On April 24 2011 19:26 StyLeD wrote: I asked this before, but I'll ask it again... if anyone knows, is IM sponsored now? Don't think so. No announcements on it and lack of advertising on their jackets and shirts (in the most recent GSL) tell me no. Surprised Artosis didn't ask the coach about it in his video. He should have (after the coach told him about how IM was not sponsored). In fact, Thehandsomenerd.com should have offered to sponsor them... I kid. | ||
BobGayman
89 Posts
On April 24 2011 19:26 StyLeD wrote: I asked this before, but I'll ask it again... if anyone knows, is IM sponsored now? They had boxes of Coke standing around, so at least the GSL is taking care of them. | ||
Greem
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Intr3pid
Switzerland336 Posts
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Horse...falcon
United States1851 Posts
On April 24 2011 19:29 BobGayman wrote: Show nested quote + On April 24 2011 19:26 StyLeD wrote: I asked this before, but I'll ask it again... if anyone knows, is IM sponsored now? They had boxes of Coke standing around, so at least the GSL is taking care of them. Well they've won around $13,000 in prize money from 1st and 2nd place in the GSTL. Also Nestea, MVP, the Coach, and other Code S guys might help out by contributing a portion of winnings to the team. Assuming the house is owned by the coach they would mostly be paying for food and such their expenses shouldn't bee that high. I hope the truth is that they've gotten a lot of offers but are waiting for that home run sponsor. Hate to think such a great team would have nobody interested. | ||
Scila
Canada1849 Posts
On April 24 2011 11:51 imareaver3 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 24 2011 11:49 StarcraftMan wrote: I'm glad that IMMVP has come out to admit that Terran is the weakest race now. The cumulative changes by Blizzard to Terran has really hurt the Terran race. That is a refershing viewpoint coming from IMMVP, the best Terran player in the world, as IMMVP knows the strengths and weaknesses of the Terran race the best. And NesTea--the best Zerg in the world--said the exact opposite. There's quite a bit of bias in these interviews. Can't blame him after what Clide did to him. | ||
turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On April 24 2011 19:02 WhiteDog wrote: Saying terran is weak is absolute bullshit if you consider how good the terran are doing in tourney since the beginning of the game. On the other side, I do think Terran is one of the hardest race, if not the hardest race to play at high level. Zerg is easier in maccro but needs more of timing / game sense. how about you listen to his reply again, he says terran suffers the most on bigger maps, which WERENT BEING PLAYED at the beginning of the game. he even specifically mentions that he is talking about the current gsl map pool. On April 24 2011 19:14 Horse...falcon wrote: On a separate note, the SlayerS teamhouse has got to be crazy swank with all that Intel money. boxer used it all to build a golden throne | ||
thesums
Taiwan257 Posts
Despite terran doing well, in the nominations for GSL May, why did people all pick terrans first? They are all fighting to pick those terrans! In the end it was like 1 zerg and 4 toss left. Please dont post balance complaints if you have not even watched the matches carefully. Many of the terrans that beat protoss played well and/or protoss played greedy/bad. If they lose due to FE, it is totally their fault as protoss does not need 1 expansion up. And another obvious reason is the 1 hotkey problem for protoss. They always have zealots stuck behind! This is as bad as marines marauders not microing against zealots, its the same. For me it is Protoss > Terran > Zerg atm, PvT is quite balanced but Protoss is better vs zerg making them the best race still. | ||
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