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On May 18 2011 12:49 Tachion wrote: How many players advance from each pool, 2 or 3? If you don't make it out of your pool you're done @ MLG? 1st place in each group advance to Winner's semifinals, and everyone else gets dropped down into the losers bracket, no one gets eliminated from Pool play
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oh my god group C is going to be absolutely insane, and I will be there in person. Moving to ohio in a week and i am going to my first MLG!
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On May 18 2011 12:54 Stark1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 12:39 TT1 wrote:On May 18 2011 12:34 Stark1 wrote:On May 18 2011 12:08 TT1 wrote:On May 18 2011 12:05 AhhBoxxah wrote: nooooooooo 1 spot off =( yay we get to play in the qualifier together ^.^, travelling all the way to a lan just to play in a quali while gosu koreans get free spots.. good times huh? btw gretorp loss all of his matchs but he was still seeded so high.. worst tourmament format ever Don't go blaming the Koreans for MLG's formatting issues, it should be the pro players/teams like say... you guys trying to get things changed if you don't like them. uhh what? my job is being a gamer, mlg pays their employees alot of money to figure all that shit out My point is that MLG isn't going to "figure it out". They want to use their dumbass format, and the players don't; how is this changed? By having large numbers of players/team managers insist that they adjust to a format more suitable to RTS play. If they won't do that, there are a LOT of other SC2 tournaments for players to enter.
The format is suitable for RTS play, the downside is in order for it to really flesh out it takes a lot of tournaments and games to get people seeded where they really should be. As it stands, there haven't been a huge # of tournaments/games at MLG to really seed people properly.
edit: Which obviously makes it less than optimal given a relatively light seasonal schedule, but quite frankly I've yet to see or hear a single tournament that people didn't complain about the format in. People just complain about MLG's, for instance, a lot more than GSL's because they think there's a chance it'll get changed.
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On May 18 2011 12:50 Darpa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 12:32 425kid wrote:On May 18 2011 12:28 Darpa wrote:On May 18 2011 12:22 coolcor wrote:On May 18 2011 12:08 TT1 wrote:On May 18 2011 12:05 AhhBoxxah wrote: nooooooooo 1 spot off =( yay we get to play in the qualifier together ^.^, travelling all the way to a lan just to play in a quali while gosu koreans get free spots.. good times huh? btw gretorp loss all of his matchs but he was still seeded so high.. worst tourmament format ever Well obviously MLG has to punish you for representing the world against the best in Korea instead of going to their tournament. That is so lame! And of course if you don't make it through the open bracket this time you'll be way far behind cause the seeded players are guaranteed a high placement every event and the points will add up! So get used to the open bracket for the rest of the year. Gretorp lost his group play matches, but won 2 rounds in the losers bracket (optik zero and i forget). Then he won placement games for the ranking against AhhBoxxah and such. He is there because he finished there not because of some random crap they pulled out of their ass. He only got to that stage in the losers bracket because he was seeded... And why was he seeded? Because he had top 16 qualifying points from MLG 2010 season. Seriously, you guys act like this is some mystifying force illogical behaivour that MLG does just to fuck with your heads. Its really simple.
Only because some people didn't show up. (Including Huk who ultimately did end up showing up.) He wasn't in the Top 16 actually.
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Holy shit, group C is stacked to the gills. Everyone in group C is better than everyone in group D except Losira.
Also LOL at Machine having to play InControl again.
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Pool C holy crap.
Hahahaha Geoff and Machine in the same group.
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On May 18 2011 12:55 NukeTheBunnys wrote: oh my god group C is going to be absolutely insane, and I will be there in person. Moving to ohio in a week and i am going to my first MLG!
I hate you with every actine fiber in my heart.
On a serious note, are they streaming pool games? If they are, will be it at the style of NASL (stream event) or are they releasing just the VOD's later?
Thank you =)
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Koreans are cheating, they got into the groups without playing MLG ever, they should have put them in the open brackets and see if they are as good as Naniwa to come all the way from there and win MLG
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jesus group c is gonna be soooooo epic, stream just that all weekend and I will be happy with mlg Columbus :D
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On May 18 2011 12:57 Corrik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 12:50 Darpa wrote:On May 18 2011 12:32 425kid wrote:On May 18 2011 12:28 Darpa wrote:On May 18 2011 12:22 coolcor wrote:On May 18 2011 12:08 TT1 wrote:On May 18 2011 12:05 AhhBoxxah wrote: nooooooooo 1 spot off =( yay we get to play in the qualifier together ^.^, travelling all the way to a lan just to play in a quali while gosu koreans get free spots.. good times huh? btw gretorp loss all of his matchs but he was still seeded so high.. worst tourmament format ever Well obviously MLG has to punish you for representing the world against the best in Korea instead of going to their tournament. That is so lame! And of course if you don't make it through the open bracket this time you'll be way far behind cause the seeded players are guaranteed a high placement every event and the points will add up! So get used to the open bracket for the rest of the year. Gretorp lost his group play matches, but won 2 rounds in the losers bracket (optik zero and i forget). Then he won placement games for the ranking against AhhBoxxah and such. He is there because he finished there not because of some random crap they pulled out of their ass. He only got to that stage in the losers bracket because he was seeded... And why was he seeded? Because he had top 16 qualifying points from MLG 2010 season. Seriously, you guys act like this is some mystifying force illogical behaivour that MLG does just to fuck with your heads. Its really simple. Only because some people didn't show up. (Including Huk who ultimately did end up showing up.) He wasn't in the Top 16 actually.
So how is that a problem? Or how is that broken. The higher seeded players didnt show up, so he was bumped. That is exactly how every other tournament would work. What would you suggest? They randomly pick people from the pool? Or just pick in choose players that they thought were good? Boot him out when a person shows up at the last minute? That is far less fair.
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Holy crap group C is one of the most imba groups I've ever seen in a tournament.
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On May 18 2011 12:58 Devildeer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 12:55 NukeTheBunnys wrote: oh my god group C is going to be absolutely insane, and I will be there in person. Moving to ohio in a week and i am going to my first MLG! I hate you with every actine fiber in my heart. On a serious note, are they streaming pool games? If they are, will be it at the style of NASL (stream event) or are they releasing just the VOD's later? Thank you =) MLG is ALL LIVE ALL DAY BRO its gonna be sweet
(vods come out after the event)
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On May 18 2011 12:59 Darpa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 12:57 Corrik wrote:On May 18 2011 12:50 Darpa wrote:On May 18 2011 12:32 425kid wrote:On May 18 2011 12:28 Darpa wrote:On May 18 2011 12:22 coolcor wrote:On May 18 2011 12:08 TT1 wrote:On May 18 2011 12:05 AhhBoxxah wrote: nooooooooo 1 spot off =( yay we get to play in the qualifier together ^.^, travelling all the way to a lan just to play in a quali while gosu koreans get free spots.. good times huh? btw gretorp loss all of his matchs but he was still seeded so high.. worst tourmament format ever Well obviously MLG has to punish you for representing the world against the best in Korea instead of going to their tournament. That is so lame! And of course if you don't make it through the open bracket this time you'll be way far behind cause the seeded players are guaranteed a high placement every event and the points will add up! So get used to the open bracket for the rest of the year. Gretorp lost his group play matches, but won 2 rounds in the losers bracket (optik zero and i forget). Then he won placement games for the ranking against AhhBoxxah and such. He is there because he finished there not because of some random crap they pulled out of their ass. He only got to that stage in the losers bracket because he was seeded... And why was he seeded? Because he had top 16 qualifying points from MLG 2010 season. Seriously, you guys act like this is some mystifying force illogical behaivour that MLG does just to fuck with your heads. Its really simple. Only because some people didn't show up. (Including Huk who ultimately did end up showing up.) He wasn't in the Top 16 actually. So how is that a problem? Or how is that broken. The higher seeded players didnt show up, so he was bumped. That is exactly how every other tournament would work. What would you suggest? They randomly pick people from the pool? Or just pick in choose players that they thought were good? That is far less fair.
First of all, I didn't say it was broken. Second of all, they could leave the spot void.
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group A is kinda meh compared to the others but still a great group.
I echo the sentiments of the HOLY FUCKING BALLS reaction to group C, that is a straight up scary group. At least nobody is eliminated from pool play.
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On May 18 2011 13:00 Corrik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 12:59 Darpa wrote:On May 18 2011 12:57 Corrik wrote:On May 18 2011 12:50 Darpa wrote:On May 18 2011 12:32 425kid wrote:On May 18 2011 12:28 Darpa wrote:On May 18 2011 12:22 coolcor wrote:On May 18 2011 12:08 TT1 wrote:On May 18 2011 12:05 AhhBoxxah wrote: nooooooooo 1 spot off =( yay we get to play in the qualifier together ^.^, travelling all the way to a lan just to play in a quali while gosu koreans get free spots.. good times huh? btw gretorp loss all of his matchs but he was still seeded so high.. worst tourmament format ever Well obviously MLG has to punish you for representing the world against the best in Korea instead of going to their tournament. That is so lame! And of course if you don't make it through the open bracket this time you'll be way far behind cause the seeded players are guaranteed a high placement every event and the points will add up! So get used to the open bracket for the rest of the year. Gretorp lost his group play matches, but won 2 rounds in the losers bracket (optik zero and i forget). Then he won placement games for the ranking against AhhBoxxah and such. He is there because he finished there not because of some random crap they pulled out of their ass. He only got to that stage in the losers bracket because he was seeded... And why was he seeded? Because he had top 16 qualifying points from MLG 2010 season. Seriously, you guys act like this is some mystifying force illogical behaivour that MLG does just to fuck with your heads. Its really simple. Only because some people didn't show up. (Including Huk who ultimately did end up showing up.) He wasn't in the Top 16 actually. So how is that a problem? Or how is that broken. The higher seeded players didnt show up, so he was bumped. That is exactly how every other tournament would work. What would you suggest? They randomly pick people from the pool? Or just pick in choose players that they thought were good? That is far less fair. First of all, I didn't say it was broken. Second of all, they could leave the spot void.
So assuming Huk didnt decide to come to the event how would you seed that spot? Or should they just operate under the impression a random high seed player may or may not show up?
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every player who doesn't show, they just bump all the players below them up 1 spot
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How is the seeding done? It's like MLG is trolling the players on group C.
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On May 18 2011 13:03 sambo400 wrote: every player who doesn't show, they just bump all the players below them up 1 spot
Thats exactly what they did. They just didnt update the groups when Huk Came because he was so last minute.
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On May 18 2011 12:50 Darpa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 12:32 425kid wrote:On May 18 2011 12:28 Darpa wrote:On May 18 2011 12:22 coolcor wrote:On May 18 2011 12:08 TT1 wrote:On May 18 2011 12:05 AhhBoxxah wrote: nooooooooo 1 spot off =( yay we get to play in the qualifier together ^.^, travelling all the way to a lan just to play in a quali while gosu koreans get free spots.. good times huh? btw gretorp loss all of his matchs but he was still seeded so high.. worst tourmament format ever Well obviously MLG has to punish you for representing the world against the best in Korea instead of going to their tournament. That is so lame! And of course if you don't make it through the open bracket this time you'll be way far behind cause the seeded players are guaranteed a high placement every event and the points will add up! So get used to the open bracket for the rest of the year. Gretorp lost his group play matches, but won 2 rounds in the losers bracket (optik zero and i forget). Then he won placement games for the ranking against AhhBoxxah and such. He is there because he finished there not because of some random crap they pulled out of their ass. He only got to that stage in the losers bracket because he was seeded... And why was he seeded? Because he had top 16 qualifying points from MLG 2010 season. Seriously, you guys act like this is some mystifying force illogical behaivour that MLG does just to fuck with your heads. Its really simple.
And some bad players got seeded into code S in Janurary based on GSL 2010 points. However after that code S is only determined by placement in the last months results so they get pushed out while MLG will guarantee a high placement every time so their points will go up every time and will be harder to knock out every time. Placement in the national championship is mostly determined by the results of the first tournament of the year. (witch had the problem of seeding people based on 2010 points, and the time from Dallas to the championship is also a problem for determining current skill.)
TT1 can get a few places higher then gretorp this time, but still not get seeded next time due to his point lead.Though adding 4 Koreans each time might push them out anyways depends if they keep coming after the invite.
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