You wanna be realistic? Ok fine a zerg builds an extra queen, 1-2 spine crawlers, extra lings, 1-2 evo chambers and maybe an extra hatchery, all in all zerg players get to USE those extra units/building in the future and it LEADS to a strong mid to late game. the extra queen whether it be 1 or 2 extra WILL be used for either creep spread or moving it to the new third base that most zergs get if a terran expands after the hellions. The evo chambers WILL be used for upgrades for the zerg army that will benefit them in the future. The extra lings WILL be added onto the zerg army whether they go lingfestor or mutaling. The macro hatchery WILL be an added source of zerg larva for their drone/unit making purposes. For the terran player making for than 6 hellions WILL NOT be an added benefit for his army in the long term unless he is going mech. Which means that the zerg player would have the advantage IF the terran player does opt for a huge swell of hellions. The 1-2 extra spinecrawler WILL be used for the defense of zerg bases in the mid-game in case of drops and eventually (if they aren't killed off) be added onto the spinecrawler wall a zerg player would put if going mutas or BLs. And lets be honest here, how would creating a few extra lings and building an extra queen, a spine crawler here or there and tech buildings that a zerg player would build eventually REALLY hinder the economy of the zerg.
had to highlight that part in bold as it cought my attention. it seems u do not understand the match up all that well and what hellions are actually used for. making more then 6 hellions is pretty much manipulating what the zerg player can do like i said before. if he goes beyond 6 and gets like 10+ then suddenly he has map control. zerglings will never be able to get a good surround on that many hellions unless the terran messes up. so what that means is u can go around and deny expansions and the zerg can do NOTHING about it unless he makes something other then lings... when a terran player gets huge number of hellions he is trying to force roaches, thats the hole point.
its the same thing when toss goes early air, he is trying to force hydras, a unit zerg does not want to make, so that colo will roll them. the difference here however is that hellions completely stops zergling production entirely ON TOP of forcing zerg to make a unit they do not want to make. do u have any idea how manipulative that is just from 1 unit? i really dont think u do.
Roaches are not the only counter to hellions, have you heard of the mutalisk? Or even the infestor? How about mass zerglings? If you have tunnel vision that the counter to a unit is X unit then I'm sorry you deserve to lose horribly. The help menu suggests that the Ultralisk is the counter to the Marauder but we all know how that turned out to be now do we. And let me emphasize this again: IF THE TERRAN PLAYER QUICKLY MAKES 20 BLUE FLAME HELLIONS AND RUNS IN INTO YOUR BASE THEN HE IS ALL IN AND IF YOU HOLD IT OFF YOU WINS BECAUSE THERE IS NO TRANSITION OUT OF IT!.
lol....... are mutalisk zerglings? are infestors zerglings? no, they are not. where are the zerglings in this scenario? why can i not make zerglings? why should i have to stop making a unit and make a different unit entirely just to "counter" them? banelings "counter" marines, but with superb marine splitting and kitting marines actually can fair quite well agains banelings. banelings do not stop marine production AT ALL. i dont know what league u are in, but mass zerglings do not kill Blue flame hellions once they hit that critical mass. they slaughter INFINITE amount of zerglings. u would seriously have to have ultra bad hellion control to loose 20+ Blue flame hellions against mass zerglings, srsly. i am just going to go out on a limb tho and say ur in gold if u are honestly suggesting to look at the "help/counter menu". NEVER EVER IN UR LIFE try to get help from that thing. its worthless. do not follow the help menu, please for the love of God dont do it.
as for that part in all caps bold letters. that is another gold level thing to do. why would u suicide 20 blue flame hellions in a base? thats stupid. the 20 blue flame hellions are for map presence and to force any other unit other then zerglings. why throw that away? please dont do this... its just stupid.
Adding gas to the hellions means 3 things, it forces a second refinery for the terran player, it allows for the zerg unlimited map control for a longer amount of time, and it hurts the early game terran economy and timing. Forcing a second refinery does 2 things, it delays a terran player's army and expansion. Terran is a mineral heavy race as all of the vital terran units cost a ton of minerals if going for Bio. This force of second gas before the starport/engiebays/second expansion/tank production delays the production of Marines and lowers the terran's overall supply. Secondly the zerg player will have a huge advantage of map control which allows 2 things: unhindered expansions and vital intelligence. Not having hellions in front of the zerg's base to delay the third allows for massive creep spread and early thirds, this makes the zerg have a huge boost in economy and map control as the creep allows the zerg to easily defend his third and gives vision of the area, couple this with xel'naga towers gives zerg players a tremendous amount of advantages. Finally it hurts the terran's timing as the terran player will have to wait for the gas to finish to allow for constant hellion production. This will also hinder a terran's ability to go Mech as the other core components such as the Thor and Siege Tank require huge amounts of gas and Hellions are used as a mineral sink. A terran player usually does stay at 1 gas before starport and forcing them to get another refinery makes for another play possible that is the Banshee switch which you were complaining about.
again, why is a 2nd refinery bad....? u have mules, its not like it will hurt u or anything.... and no, it doesnt give zerg unlimited map control. u can still make hellions and u have other forms of harassment. you are honestly making it seem like it is impossible to deny a zerg 3rd base without hellions. please think a little and use ur head instead of copying what is standard among pro players all the time... u still have reapers (whenever they get buffed and become useful again), u still have banshees, u still have marine tank pushes, u still have drops, u still have bunker rushes and so on so forth. terran is a very versatile race with many options . hellion is not the only option...
High Level Play shows that majority of the hellion usage is creep cleaning and expo delaying not suiciding 20 hellions to kill of drones. I don't know what kind of replays you watch but the majority of those I do show a preference of BioMech or Pure Mech rather than All-Ins. The hellion forces roaches idea that you have is hogwash, because as far as I know having a huge amount of hellions means that all his minerals are tied up there and there WILL be a lack of anti-air defense and as we all know, Mutalisks ARE a very common sight in ZvT. In addition to this, Infestors are also a logical choice as it kills off hellions quite easily. As for the forcing other build from terran, I don't suppose you've heard of mech, I hear its the other terran ZvT strategy. People use this mostly as it basically the "counter" to the mutaling play which the zerg building banelings does against the marine.
man, stop talking about "high level play" you are not at a high level, u are only watching vods and ASSUMING this is what they are doing for x reason. stop it, please. its quite annoying. you have no idea why the pro players do what they do so stop pretending like you do and instead speak from YOUR OWN point of view, not a top players point of view like MMA. thats why i am refusing to respond to any more of ur "watch xxx VoD/replay" comments. as i said before, i can show u replays of even stephano being forced into roaches rather then lings and i can show u vods of him defending it. it proves nothing.
i am not a pro player nor do i play at a very high lvl and neither do u. i am speaking my own mind and giving my own opinion from my own experiences. as for the rest of ur points in this paragraph, ive already addressed them. u are just repeating what u have already told me.