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What's it matter? So many people seem to care more about the drama, the sex appeal and the conduct of players rather than the actual games. This is more and more going from a real sport into american wrestling with predecided victors and speeches written by some off camera guy to increase drama. If the only way to grow is to sell out and stop caring about starcraft, then skip it.
The next step is proposing that you have to be good looking enough to get into a tournament.
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On January 29 2012 16:10 Euronyme wrote: What's it matter? So many people seem to care more about the drama, the sex appeal and the conduct of players rather than the actual games. This is more and more going from a real sport into american wrestling with predecided victors and speeches written by some off camera guy to increase drama. If the only way to grow is to sell out and stop caring about starcraft, then skip it.
The next step is proposing that you have to be good looking enough to get into a tournament.
Are you high?
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+1 to OP, Image is very important to every business.
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On January 29 2012 16:13 Kashll wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 16:10 Euronyme wrote: What's it matter? So many people seem to care more about the drama, the sex appeal and the conduct of players rather than the actual games. This is more and more going from a real sport into american wrestling with predecided victors and speeches written by some off camera guy to increase drama. If the only way to grow is to sell out and stop caring about starcraft, then skip it.
The next step is proposing that you have to be good looking enough to get into a tournament. Are you high?
Well, I havn't slept in 24 hours, but that's beside the point.
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On January 29 2012 16:18 Euronyme wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 16:13 Kashll wrote:On January 29 2012 16:10 Euronyme wrote: What's it matter? So many people seem to care more about the drama, the sex appeal and the conduct of players rather than the actual games. This is more and more going from a real sport into american wrestling with predecided victors and speeches written by some off camera guy to increase drama. If the only way to grow is to sell out and stop caring about starcraft, then skip it.
The next step is proposing that you have to be good looking enough to get into a tournament. Are you high? Well, I havn't slept in 24 hours, but that's beside the point.
Well my point is that I think on the spectrum between caring about the actual games and the "sex appeal"/conduct of players Starcraft is still faaaaaaaaar on the side of the actual games. So don't be melodramatic
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On December 30 2011 02:50 faulty wrote:sC is above MarineKing, lol Where all the females?
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Well OP is right, mainstream means everyone has to appreciate it, so people who don't understand or care for the complexity and intellectual depth of StarCraft have to be enterained some other way. So giving pro gamers more sex appeal will give StarCraft a broader reach for people who can't be sold on the intracicies and beauty of the game alone. As for whether this is something we should be doing, whether we want people liking and being part of StarCraft solely for the sex appeal and drama, thats another thing altogether.
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On January 29 2012 16:17 pedduck wrote: +1 to OP, Image is very important to every business. do you want starcraft to turn into a business or stay a game?
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On January 29 2012 16:49 Roe wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 16:17 pedduck wrote: +1 to OP, Image is very important to every business. do you want starcraft to turn into a business or stay a game?
Clearly business. It means that it sells. Which means that it grows. Which means that competition and viewership grows.
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the gaming scene in america is protrayed as we're all ugly people with no girlfriends, jobs, or social skills. Channels like g4 don't help that sterotype of gamers either. Gaming has gone mainstream, but the sterotype is kind of hard to break free from. When you go to gaming types of conventions for the most part the sterotype holds, unfortunently. =/ hopefully this trend ends and gamers as a whole get some more respect, haha.
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Image means so much in these types of things. It attracts more viewers which mean more money. Money. Money. Money. That's what it all comes down to. It's all about the money money money. Always about the money money money.
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On January 29 2012 16:03 Crunktd wrote: ..... muscluar does not equate to sex appeal...... why are foreigners so hanged up on this....
Ummm Yes it does. Are you retarded? Masculinity/ femininity IS SEX APPEAL. Muscles are the core definition of what I think most people see as a masculine man... AKA Sex appeal. Do you not watch any commercials??? Muscles are masculinity which is SEX APPEAL.
they actually arent everywhere. you're ignorant.
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On January 29 2012 17:11 Angel_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 16:03 Crunktd wrote: ..... muscluar does not equate to sex appeal...... why are foreigners so hanged up on this....
Ummm Yes it does. Are you retarded? Masculinity/ femininity IS SEX APPEAL. Muscles are the core definition of what I think most people see as a masculine man... AKA Sex appeal. Do you not watch any commercials??? Muscles are masculinity which is SEX APPEAL.
they actually arent everywhere. you're ignorant.
i think theres just a miscommunication here
women that are thrown around in the average commercial to be sexy normally arent "jacked" with lots of muscles. girls being jacked with muscles would be seen as tomboys or something
on the flip side, many commercials have skinny men, even skinny men being portrayed as attractive, however id say on average most of the time a commercial has a dude in it and they are trying to sell sex appeal, normally the man isnt super skinny like a woman. Normally the man has a bit more muscles than a woman, not as much as incontrol but the dude doesnt look like 2008 idra either
so yes, muscles does equal sex appeal, however it depends on the context/assumptions you use that statement in, meaning it probably means absolutely nothing since there is no way to actually define anything in this argument
so actually, on second thought, i would say the correct answer is that *BOTH* of you are wrong
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Look at what Tiger Woods did for golf.
He turned it from a game of old men in weird ass clothes to a sport kids wanted to play.
Image isn't everything, but it's nearly everything. Without a good image, SCII will be relegated to the minority fringe. Purists are fine, but they have to understand that they can't ask for both, either SCII grows, and the image grows with it, or it stagnates and remains the game they currently love.
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The problem lies in the fact that 90% of the world's populations still believe in the innate yet untrue fact that Games =\= Bad. Golf was just boring. It didn't have any negativity attributed to it. Gaming, however has been slammed so badly by the media that it carries a very bad vibe regardless of how people portray it nowadays. Sigh.
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On January 29 2012 17:22 ThomasHobbes wrote: Look at what Tiger Woods did for golf.
He turned it from a game of old men in weird ass clothes to a sport kids wanted to play.
Image isn't everything, but it's nearly everything. Without a good image, SCII will be relegated to the minority fringe. Purists are fine, but they have to understand that they can't ask for both, either SCII grows, and the image grows with it, or it stagnates and remains the game they currently love. No kid wants to play golf dude.
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I love the passion, but StarCraft is not going mainstream. It is not mainstream and it never will, and it is not because of how SC2 pro gamers look like. We'll have to wait years for pro gaming to go mainstream in the west. And the game/games could be totally different.
StarCraft lives in the internet, supported by enthusiastic people who also play the game. It should not matter if we have hot looking guido pro gamers or not. It's a niche sport.
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On January 29 2012 19:30 Coeus1 wrote:I love the passion, but StarCraft is not going mainstream. It is not mainstream and it never will, and it is not because of how SC2 pro gamers look like. We'll have to wait years for pro gaming to go mainstream in the west. And the game/games could be totally different. StarCraft lives in the internet, supported by enthusiastic people who also play the game. It should not matter if we have hot looking guido pro gamers or not. It's a niche sport.
You cannot be further from the truth.
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On December 30 2011 02:23 Naniwa wrote: im up for photoshoot any time.
<3
Do it!
That would be awesome! I totally agree. Make StarCraft 2 sexy.
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Artosis #4? someone has a crush.
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