I think group C will definitely have the most entertaining matches of all, so stoked to see MaNa's PvT matched up against MMA and Jjakji, aswell as seeing Stephano's ZvT versus the same :O
Pool B would be group of death and destruction if it had Alive or Nestea. Idra brings the quality down. Everyone else is going to win atleast one set I guess.
My initial reaction from the other thread announcing the groups:
On February 17 2012 07:33 gakkgakk wrote: What the flying fuck this is the sickest lineup with koreans and foreigners I've ever seen. It's gonna be off the proverbial hook! :D
On February 17 2012 07:52 Pirat6662001 wrote: Sad about lack of Ukrainians, especially Kas,most of other foreigners in this tourney not on the same level.
Yes, I'd have loved to see him in there, too, but to be honest, looking at the still incredibly amazing lineup, this one time I don't really care at all because the games are going to be really fun regardless.
Just to give everyone an idea of how stacked these groups are:
Group A combined: $276,000 prize money Group B combined: $578,000 prize money Group C combined: $308,000 prize money Group D combined: $380,000 prize money
Alltogether: $1,542,000 between these 20 players. Interestingly (or not), the order of prize money is the same way I'd order the toughness of these groups with B>D>C>A
On February 17 2012 08:36 red4ce wrote: Just to give everyone an idea of how stacked these groups are:
Group A combined: $276,000 prize money Group B combined: $578,000 prize money Group C combined: $308,000 prize money Group D combined: $380,000 prize money
Alltogether: $1,542,000 between these 20 players. Interestingly (or not), the order of prize money is the same way I'd order the toughness of these groups with B>D>C>A
I wonder what % of total sc2 prize money since release that is, that's a crazy stat.
On February 17 2012 08:36 red4ce wrote: Just to give everyone an idea of how stacked these groups are:
Group A combined: $276,000 prize money Group B combined: $578,000 prize money Group C combined: $308,000 prize money Group D combined: $380,000 prize money
Alltogether: $1,542,000 between these 20 players. Interestingly (or not), the order of prize money is the same way I'd order the toughness of these groups with B>D>C>A
group B isn't the toughest because there's a HUGE gap between the 2nd annd the 3rd, Thorzain, Idra and Symbol are here for figuration. Stephano in group C and Nerchio in D are more likely to do something.
Group C and D are closer, i'd class like that: D>C>B>A
On February 17 2012 07:52 Pirat6662001 wrote: Sad about lack of Ukrainians, especially Kas,most of other foreigners in this tourney not on the same level.
Which of the foreigners in this tournament could not beat Kas? NONE
On February 17 2012 08:36 red4ce wrote: Just to give everyone an idea of how stacked these groups are:
Group A combined: $276,000 prize money Group B combined: $578,000 prize money Group C combined: $308,000 prize money Group D combined: $380,000 prize money
Alltogether: $1,542,000 between these 20 players. Interestingly (or not), the order of prize money is the same way I'd order the toughness of these groups with B>D>C>A
We never thought our Tournament that way ^^. Thanks for your help !
Stacked ass groups. My preds: A. MKP and BoxeR. Maybe Ret. I would say PuMa but providing ToD is the only Protoss in that group for PuMa to 1/1/1, I don't think PuMa can make it out.
B. Mvp and MC. I could see Thorzain make it out though, but the Grack hasn't had much success as of late.
C. MMA and jjakji. Although Stephano can pull upsets and if he does, I'm not surprised since its fucking Stephano ffs.
D. aLive and NesTea. aLive has been causing a storm lately and NesTea is still God of Zerg. Leenock could trump NesTea or aLive, but I don't see that happening.
So happy to see the broadcasts ONLY two days a week. Plenty of time to hype up those matches/fix scheduling conflicts. Hopefully I won't have to dedicate an ENTIRE Sunday to watch this event. No more than 2-4 Bo3s per night in addition to any other content you might be able to provide is Lets see this thing grow!
Definitely a stacked group. Only problem I really see is whether lag will be a factor. Especially for match ups like ZvZ and PvP where a small bit of lag at the wrong times could be critical. Hopefully the internet plays nice and there are any game altering lag spikes.
On February 17 2012 16:33 onedayclose wrote: So happy to see the broadcasts ONLY two days a week. Plenty of time to hype up those matches/fix scheduling conflicts. Hopefully I won't have to dedicate an ENTIRE Sunday to watch this event. No more than 2-4 Bo3s per night in addition to any other content you might be able to provide is Lets see this thing grow!
I think Koreans can prepare a charter to Paris for all the players (and their coaches) who will qualify for the offline event It would be expected if top 8 is korean only, and a miracle if more than one foreigner manage to reach it.
Startale signing MisS (?!) is newsworthy enough to warrant a news-post, but the announcement of the groups and schedule for the best/strongest online-tournament so far in SC2 (with LAN-finals) is not. I really hope this isn't overlooked because it's competition for TSL4.
Damn, seems like some pretty top-end production with that trailer and all, are the people hosting the event generally well known? They must be investing alot of money into this event - looks like its paying off as well. GL guys!
So its online until the semi's right, which is played live in France?
lol @ Idra's group- lots and lots of rage will be had. Incredibly strong groups altogether. Even a single foreigner in Ro4 will be a great success. Judging by the trailer the production will be sick too. Can't wait!
On February 17 2012 22:03 nick1689 wrote: Damn, seems like some pretty top-end production with that trailer and all, are the people hosting the event generally well known? They must be investing alot of money into this event - looks like its paying off as well. GL guys!
So its online until the semi's right, which is played live in France?
The two guys behind it are the most known casters in France since the beta, they have a team behind them to put out content, contacts with the biggest french teams and already casted some lans sponsored by french companies. Plus they put up their own channel for content, and already organized some lans in the past. Also some of the guys who work with them are known from warcraft3/wow for their production skills.
Oh you didn't put Idra in a Pool with MC, should be interesting. Love the amount of koreans going, the round after the group stage should feature some insanely good matches, once most of the europeans and idra are out :D
Here is "the making of" of their last event in Paris, Ogaming. It was an event "just for fun" with no prize pool, and the 500 places were sold in like 2 days I trust them to prepare the better event for us !
Here is "the making of" of their last event in Paris, Ogaming. It was an event "just for fun" with no prize pool, and the 500 places were sold in like 2 days I trust them to prepare the better event for us !
after watching some of these ogaming bataclan videos I have quite high expectations for this
The french scene is surprisingly amazing. Lots of lans and tournaments, even if it doesn't get much attention in our english-speaking forum. It's strange to see cool in combination with SC2, when we're used to seeing semi-awkward interviews in ill-fitting clothes.
Here is "the making of" of their last event in Paris, Ogaming. It was an event "just for fun" with no prize pool, and the 500 places were sold in like 2 days I trust them to prepare the better event for us !
That's really cool. It's guys like these I want to see succeed.
Here is "the making of" of their last event in Paris, Ogaming. It was an event "just for fun" with no prize pool, and the 500 places were sold in like 2 days I trust them to prepare the better event for us !
after watching some of these ogaming bataclan videos I have quite high expectations for this
check the trailer for the event, it's even better XD
Here is "the making of" of their last event in Paris, Ogaming. It was an event "just for fun" with no prize pool, and the 500 places were sold in like 2 days I trust them to prepare the better event for us !
after watching some of these ogaming bataclan videos I have quite high expectations for this
check the trailer for the event, it's even better XD
Here is "the making of" of their last event in Paris, Ogaming. It was an event "just for fun" with no prize pool, and the 500 places were sold in like 2 days I trust them to prepare the better event for us !
after watching some of these ogaming bataclan videos I have quite high expectations for this
check the trailer for the event, it's even better XD
I was at Ogaming 2, and it was awesome ! It was really interesting winessing pro gamers playing casual games without much at stake. I will never forget that 2v2 game on Georgeopolis (slightly mod Metalopolis map where random nukes are thrown without warning and at increasing frequence) where Thorzain's entire siege line got wiped out within 5 seconds ! ^^
I have faith in the people involved in this tournament, and the production team is quite experienced so they should be no problem. Also, 2500 people attending it should be huge !
Idra Rage incoming as everyone cheeses (MC/Symbol)/does a strong early timing attack (Terrans) against him. Gogo Stephano...ps would like to have seen some room for Naniwa but perhaps he is hiding as he refines his builds for LAN events.
Somewhat unrelated, but since we're talking about good (french) production, the promo-videos for the players playing tomorrow at the LDLC Winter Trophy are pretty great and deserves to be seen by a wider audience. Nice editing and use of the ingame cameras makes for a pretty intense presentation.
Here is "the making of" of their last event in Paris, Ogaming. It was an event "just for fun" with no prize pool, and the 500 places were sold in like 2 days I trust them to prepare the better event for us !
just to be more precise it's 1500 nerds " just for fun"
Group A seems like an easy group in this tournament... and that's saying a lot, considering who is in that group.
Mana and Stephano in the same group (Assembly too), sad Stephano is the only realistic hope for a foreigner in top 8. Although with the event being online and all, it's not impossible that Nerchio and Thorzain make it through as well.
ToD only made it into this tournament due to French preference (it's not unacceptable that one of 20 players was selected on that basis, mind you), but I actually think he could take some games in his group. The other four foreigners will all be 0-6 against Koreans.
I wish there had been an Ukrainian or Russian player in there as well, but as someone said, you can't have it all.
PS : why MLG Arena and Assembly get multiple headlines on TL while this event gets none is beyond me.
Okay, first of all i want to say i registered on TL to post this.
I'm a little confused about the no-hype-at-all feeling regarding this tournament. Seriously guys, this is the biggest line up in a tournament we've seen in...well since pretty much Stracraft 2 was released. What do you want more, Top Korean players, Top EU players, it's truth there is only Idra for NA, but keep in mind several players(like Huk) declined the invitation. In addition, the production is excellent, you have a dedicated website, a facebook page, a trailer on Youtube(see Totalbiscuit or Pomf et Thud channel) a big cash prize and an experienced team behind all the work, you of course have an English stream available.
What are you waiting to spread the word? Go to twitter/facebook/whatever social network and spread the damn word across the damn galaxy.
And for godsake TeamLiquid, make an article(with the excellent redaction quality you are famous for) about it.(if it's on the way, i appologie). I beg you, this could be a major step for Esport, we all have responsabilities to take.
So tommorow at work, or at school, i want all SC2 fans around the world to scream "HAIL TO THE SQUID!!" or something like that, is that clear?
And if you are a badass fan, go to your fishmonger, buy actual damn squids and throw them at random people in the street. And when they'll ask you "Why the f*** do you do that?", you'll answer "Because i love IRON SQUID,and because this is the better SC2 tournament ever created, and because even all the damn fauna of the oceans is going to watch it!!".
On February 18 2012 21:31 IronSquid wrote: Cool interview made by ESFI, link in the OP
Thanks for the link, quite interesting. Because its a bit of an unknown tournament, I found the following part of the interview interesting:
"Fred Gau: The first thing I want to say is that our cash prize is secured, we already have it, and we wouldn’t start this tournament without it. For the second part of the question, we’re still in negotiations because getting the tournament running was far more important than our sponsors. I can't say much about it, but that it will be announced soon. Do not worry about it, we have our own budget for this tournament and it is quite enough to deal with everything."
So why isn't this in the Community News and Headlines section yet? This tournament is on par with IEM / Assembly and their group announcement threads are placed there for more exposure. Doesn't seem very fair to me for a $25k prize pool + sick players tournament.
At least Stephano forfeiting ONOG was worth being put in Community News. Much more interesting than a huge tournament coming up. T.T
Edit: LOL, Lone Star Clash got featured already as well. Two of sixteen players announced, half the prize pool of this one. I don't know what's missing here.
This is one of the best tournaments ever and it is getting lost kinda unnoticed. Maybe it is because it is hard to find any information on this tournament.
The whole French community is looking forward to it. I beg all people from every country of the world to make some advertising for this tournament. Discuss it with your friends, local streamers. When you are doing your ladder, copy/paste the website http://www.ironsquid.tv/ when you're donne with your "GL HF"^^ Like the Facebook page, follow the twitter of the tournament. Leave a comment in the youtube video trailer(TotalBiscuit channel or Pomf et Thud's one).
Hello gentle folks, let me help you with the little problem you seem to have. It's simple :
1. Click on this link 2. Look for an existing thread about your issue. 3a. If yes, reply in the thread. 3b. If not, make a new thread. 4. Enjoy a nice discussion.
Here is "the making of" of their last event in Paris, Ogaming. It was an event "just for fun" with no prize pool, and the 500 places were sold in like 2 days I trust them to prepare the better event for us !
On February 17 2012 23:46 Derity wrote: after watching some of these ogaming bataclan videos I have quite high expectations for this
Everybody who wants to know what the Pomf&Thud Team can do as tournament organizer and show SHOULD watch this !
This was just awesome and I can't wait for the main tournament to start !
Imo C>D>B>A but especially C, D and B groups are close and insane ! Predictions A : Foxer, Boxer B : MVP, MC C : MMA, Stephano (Jjakji/Stephano have quite the same level but I give my preference to Stephano) D : Nestea, Alive (considering there are 3 zergs and Nestea's ZvZ should be slightly better than Leenock's)
Anyway all the groups look so good I just can't wait to see the matches !
Can't wait to see Idra get destroyed by MC and MvP again. Also Group C and D are insane, no idea who is going to win those groups. Amazing player line up all around, good casters too.
On February 17 2012 08:36 red4ce wrote: Just to give everyone an idea of how stacked these groups are:
Group A combined: $276,000 prize money Group B combined: $578,000 prize money Group C combined: $308,000 prize money Group D combined: $380,000 prize money
Alltogether: $1,542,000 between these 20 players. Interestingly (or not), the order of prize money is the same way I'd order the toughness of these groups with B>D>C>A
I wonder what % of total sc2 prize money since release that is, that's a crazy stat.
On February 17 2012 08:36 red4ce wrote: Just to give everyone an idea of how stacked these groups are:
Group A combined: $276,000 prize money Group B combined: $578,000 prize money Group C combined: $308,000 prize money Group D combined: $380,000 prize money
Alltogether: $1,542,000 between these 20 players. Interestingly (or not), the order of prize money is the same way I'd order the toughness of these groups with B>D>C>A
I wonder what % of total sc2 prize money since release that is, that's a crazy stat.
On February 20 2012 15:39 VashTS wrote: Here's a question: What TIME on Wed/Sun will this be aired? Didn't see it in the OP or on the video from the main site.
Whats been annoying about this event since I heard of it has been the lack of information. I appreciate all the style but it would really be helpful(advertisement wise) if the opening post in this thread and the other gave specific details on dates, times, and format. I shouldn't have to watch a teaser.
I have to agree with other posters, you really should update the OP with relevant details. It's not smart to have people asking for when the tournament starts in the comments. If you're unsure of the formatting, take a look at the lone star clash tournament, they did a great job setting everything up. Other then that, what a blast this is gonna be. Just really impressive.
This is the most stacked tourney since the beginning of SC2 time. Wow. I don't see any non-koreans getting out of the groups either... Not only are there more koreans than foreigners but it's also pretty much Korea's current elite. Sick!!
On February 20 2012 17:31 ThatGuy89 wrote: you know its a good tournament when a group with stephano, MMA, mana, Life and jjakji is probably the weakest group
this is going to be awesome!
please .... they are all as strong as each other except group A..
- Groupe stage games will be broadcasted every Wednesday/Sunday on www.ironsquid.tv. - 2 players from each group qualify. - Then, ro8 are played online. - Semis & final are offline, qualified players will be flown to Paris.
That's roughly what we know about Iron Squid, for more info you can still check its Liquipedia.
On February 20 2012 16:12 Stamper wrote: Boxer, Marineking Stephano, MMA MC, MVP Leenock, Nestea
Hopefully the matches commence soon.
On February 17 2012 08:41 Dodgin wrote:
On February 17 2012 08:36 red4ce wrote: Just to give everyone an idea of how stacked these groups are:
Group A combined: $276,000 prize money Group B combined: $578,000 prize money Group C combined: $308,000 prize money Group D combined: $380,000 prize money
Alltogether: $1,542,000 between these 20 players. Interestingly (or not), the order of prize money is the same way I'd order the toughness of these groups with B>D>C>A
I wonder what % of total sc2 prize money since release that is, that's a crazy stat.
I very much doubt Stephano beats Jikaji. Jikaji is pretty damn good.
Jjaki is pretty damn good, he just doesn't seem to perform at the moment and Stephano is owning everybody in Europe. Considering the groups are played online and that Stephano will probably have the better latency I think he has really good chances.
On February 20 2012 16:12 Stamper wrote: Boxer, Marineking Stephano, MMA MC, MVP Leenock, Nestea
Hopefully the matches commence soon.
On February 17 2012 08:41 Dodgin wrote:
On February 17 2012 08:36 red4ce wrote: Just to give everyone an idea of how stacked these groups are:
Group A combined: $276,000 prize money Group B combined: $578,000 prize money Group C combined: $308,000 prize money Group D combined: $380,000 prize money
Alltogether: $1,542,000 between these 20 players. Interestingly (or not), the order of prize money is the same way I'd order the toughness of these groups with B>D>C>A
I wonder what % of total sc2 prize money since release that is, that's a crazy stat.
I very much doubt Stephano beats Jikaji. Jikaji is pretty damn good.
Jjaki is pretty damn good, he just doesn't seem to perform at the moment and Stephano is owning everybody in Europe. Considering the groups are played online and that Stephano will probably have the better latency I think he has really good chances.
Not sure EU players have better latency on NA than KR players :/
On February 20 2012 16:12 Stamper wrote: Boxer, Marineking Stephano, MMA MC, MVP Leenock, Nestea
Hopefully the matches commence soon.
On February 17 2012 08:41 Dodgin wrote:
On February 17 2012 08:36 red4ce wrote: Just to give everyone an idea of how stacked these groups are:
Group A combined: $276,000 prize money Group B combined: $578,000 prize money Group C combined: $308,000 prize money Group D combined: $380,000 prize money
Alltogether: $1,542,000 between these 20 players. Interestingly (or not), the order of prize money is the same way I'd order the toughness of these groups with B>D>C>A
I wonder what % of total sc2 prize money since release that is, that's a crazy stat.
I very much doubt Stephano beats Jikaji. Jikaji is pretty damn good.
Jjaki is pretty damn good, he just doesn't seem to perform at the moment and Stephano is owning everybody in Europe. Considering the groups are played online and that Stephano will probably have the better latency I think he has really good chances.
Not sure EU players have better latency on NA than KR players :/
Goody beat Nestea. Case closed. :D
But seriously, it depends a lot. West coast should be similar in latency for EU and KR, but East coast should be better for EU.
On February 20 2012 19:41 xxAoPxx wrote: 12 Koreans, 8 foreigners? Really? I knew Koreans outplayed foreigners, didn't know they outnumber them as well.
Thanks for volunteering as a tournament I don't need to follow. The amount of tournaments last year really brought me to a level of oversaturation.
On February 20 2012 20:00 digmouse wrote: Group B is like the ultimate group of death.
How is that?
Symbol's pretty unknown, IdrA has been underperforming for quite a while. The only real contenders I see are MC, Mvp and Thorzain. Thorzain could probably pull off a win against MC (even though MC's PvT is pretty good), I don't think he can pull a TvT win against Mvp.
Looking at the level of play and past achievements, MC and Mvp stand high above the rest of the group.
Imho group D looks far more interesting.
With Leenock, NesTea and Alive you have a fairly well-balanced and really strong Korean group along with 2 foreigners that usually do well in the underdog position.
I just found out this event is in May... It was announced in January, groups and qualifaiers in February and main event in May? I just dont understand... Hype should be build 1-2 week before the event not 3-4 months...
On February 20 2012 20:32 Bulkers wrote: I just found out this event is in May... It was announced in January, groups and qualifaiers in February and main event in May? I just dont understand... Hype should be build 1-2 week before the event not 3-4 months...
I disagree, the longer you build the hype the better your event will do. People will be looking forward to this. Plus the broadcasts of the group stages does not start in may, may is the offline finals.
Well, I don't know if you realize how huge this tournament is and that it is a necessity to have it so spread up until may.
First, the tournament starts in 9 days and not in 4 months. There are 44 BO3 in the stage groups and RO8 to be played and streamed by not only american, but also french and maybe german casters. Because of all the great players there are, it is a chance for us to be able to watch these games one at a time and not just play them all randomly and see how it goes.
And I think it is ok to just play the finals and semi in lan. As kaoru said, it is gonna be a long show and the scene is available only for a day. Then, let's not forget and be realistic, probably only koreans will get to the finals and if I were one of them I'd be disapointed to travel over to France and not have a guaranteed prize money even if the trip is paid also.
Could it be? Is this it? THE tournament. That one huge event where we get to see who really is the best player in the world? either way this tournament is going to be SICK.
So of the 20 players 12 koreans ? I love koreans but would be great to balance it out a bit tbh and see more foreigners vs koreans instead of korea vs korea.
On February 20 2012 21:57 Lysanias wrote: So of the 20 players 12 koreans ? I love koreans but would be great to balance it out a bit tbh and see more foreigners vs koreans instead of korea vs korea.
At the Beginning we had 14 Invites with 8 Foreigners and 6 Koreans. After Qualifiers 2 Koreans went in the Main Tournament plus we added 4 other Koreans (MVP, Nestea, MMA and BoxeR).
That means now we have :
Foreigners 8 Korean : 12 (6+2+4)
At the 1st beginning this tournament had more Foreigners than Korean.
On February 20 2012 21:57 Lysanias wrote: So of the 20 players 12 koreans ? I love koreans but would be great to balance it out a bit tbh and see more foreigners vs koreans instead of korea vs korea.
Seems like it was originally going to be a 50/50 split but then they had the chance to add Boxer, Mvp, MMA and NesTea, so they took it. I'm ok with that decision.
I think it's pretty safe to assume top 3 will be koreans, unless a certain french player won't ruin their plans to conquer the world. Nevertheless, we will be seeing some awesome games.
On February 20 2012 21:57 Lysanias wrote: So of the 20 players 12 koreans ? I love koreans but would be great to balance it out a bit tbh and see more foreigners vs koreans instead of korea vs korea.
Seems like it was originally going to be a 50/50 split but then they had the chance to add Boxer, Mvp, MMA and NesTea, so they took it. I'm ok with that decision.
Yeah, I really don't see how you can even start to complain about the lineup. :D
Holy crap, these groups are stacked, every one of them are groups of death, instead of the group of death, i'd rather say this should be known as the royal rumble
I wish now that they've got groups of 5 they'd put in a blizzard cup style format where first place in each group goes to the quarter finals and 2nd place plays off against 3rd from another group for the other quarter final places. Would probably lead to more meaningful matches in the group stage, and more awesome knock out games.
Group A The hardest to predict I think, MKP for sure but the 2nd place is up in the air. I'd say Boxer is the favourite for 2nd, but Ret can beat Boxer or Puma and Tod is a wildcard considering he's been in Korea for quite a while and he did beat Ryung, who is probably better than Puma and Boxer, in the MLG qualifiers twice.
Group B MMA and Jjakji
Group C MVP and MC
Group D aLive and Nestea (just because I think the matchups favour Nestea over Leenock).
Sadly I don't think any foreigners will make it to the Ro8. Stephano, Idra and Ret are probably the best players at the event, but Stephano has Jjakji and MMA in his group, who are probably top 3 TvZ in the world atm, Idra has MC and MMA, who I can't see him beating after his GSL matches. Ret has the best chance with 3 ZvT's against the 2 of the weakest Terrans in the tournament.
I can see ThorZaIN upsetting MC or MVP, but I don't think he's even the favourite against Idra or Symbol. Obviously I hope he wins the tournament though.
On February 21 2012 01:40 nimdil wrote: How much will a ticket to attend cost? Anybody knows?
we don't even know where in Paris it's gonna be
be sure to know that only the top4 is played offline, not sure if it's worth the trip from poland (even though i know plane tickets are really damn cheap at wizzair sometimes :D )
On February 21 2012 01:40 nimdil wrote: How much will a ticket to attend cost? Anybody knows?
we don't even know where in Paris it's gonna be
be sure to know that only the top4 is played offline, not sure if it's worth the trip from poland (even though i know plane tickets are really damn cheap at wizzair sometimes :D )
It's not. But I have "long weekend" spanning from the previous weekend to the Squid weekend and I'm considering a trip somewhere abroad at the time. Might as well jump to Paris for one day.
On February 21 2012 01:40 nimdil wrote: How much will a ticket to attend cost? Anybody knows?
we don't even know where in Paris it's gonna be
be sure to know that only the top4 is played offline, not sure if it's worth the trip from poland (even though i know plane tickets are really damn cheap at wizzair sometimes :D )
It's not. But I have "long weekend" spanning from the previous weekend to the Squid weekend and I'm considering a trip somewhere abroad at the time. Might as well jump to Paris for one day.
The last O'gaming event went for 12 euros (and I believe you had a free beer), i'd bet for 15-20 euros. Make sure you get tickets on time if you do, last time all the tickets were bought within two days. And the website who sold the tickets crashed (lulz)
On February 21 2012 01:40 nimdil wrote: How much will a ticket to attend cost? Anybody knows?
we don't even know where in Paris it's gonna be
be sure to know that only the top4 is played offline, not sure if it's worth the trip from poland (even though i know plane tickets are really damn cheap at wizzair sometimes :D )
It's not. But I have "long weekend" spanning from the previous weekend to the Squid weekend and I'm considering a trip somewhere abroad at the time. Might as well jump to Paris for one day.
I don't know however if TB and Apollo will be casting in English at the finals, i don't see how they can come up with a way to cast games in French/English on the same scene live.
So be sure you want to endure the French stream:p But you'll have a big quality screen anyway, and even if you d'ont understand commentaries(unless you understand French of course) it's stillworth it for the show IMO.
On February 21 2012 01:40 nimdil wrote: How much will a ticket to attend cost? Anybody knows?
we don't even know where in Paris it's gonna be
be sure to know that only the top4 is played offline, not sure if it's worth the trip from poland (even though i know plane tickets are really damn cheap at wizzair sometimes :D )
It's not. But I have "long weekend" spanning from the previous weekend to the Squid weekend and I'm considering a trip somewhere abroad at the time. Might as well jump to Paris for one day.
I don't know however if TB and Apollo will be casting in English at the finals, i don't see how they can come up with a way to cast games in French/English on the same scene live.
So be sure you want to endure the French stream:p But you'll have a big quality screen anyway, and even if you d'ont understand commentaries(unless you understand French of course) it's stillworth it for the show IMO.
The fun will be to attend as I never really attended any event live (somehow skipped euro battle.net invitational that was 10minutes walk from my home). But I admit - if there will only top 4 it's a bit less appealing (no Emperor, for example, as I don't really believe he will make it).
On February 21 2012 01:58 GeorgeForeman wrote: Wow. Looks like Ret and Stephano have the best chance of making it out of their groups. ThorZain, MC, and MVP in the same group is :-O
As much as I love ThorZain, I don't see him getting out of that group.
MC vs MVP will be the really interesting matchup, IMO.
in terms of player quality, this is looking like best tournament outside of korea so far!
predictions: mkp, puma - mkp should cruise this group since its online, puma slumping lately but still a class above the others mma, jjakji - 2 most recent gsl winners easy favourites, stephano is probably the best forgein player but against these 2 koreans in their best matchup? dont think so.. mc, mvp - easiest group to predict, idra and symbol outclassed here, although i could see thorzain coming through in an upset leenock, alive - group of death imo. alive is the latest korean terran to be tearing sht up recently, gsl SF, winning stacked IPL online qualifier beating drg, leenock hasnt had the best results this year, although imo still is the slight favourite over nestea. nerchio dark horse of this group
On February 21 2012 03:54 trinxified wrote: Are they live streaming this event for free? How about the VODs?
Yes, HD/SD stream is free, VODs are probably going to be on YouTube, presumably on the IronSquid channel itself or maybe on TB's channel for more people to see.
On February 21 2012 05:23 Wohmfg wrote: I don't even follow SC2 and I recognise all of the player names apart from 3... Some major talent in this tourney then I guess!
Best and most talented players in one fat tourney. So hyped!
On February 21 2012 05:36 IcookTacos wrote: Pool A and B looks terrefying. So excited to see MKP. I don't think any of the matches in this will be boring to watch.
MC vs Idra? I guess it might be fun just to see Idra ragequit.
On February 21 2012 05:36 IcookTacos wrote: Pool A and B looks terrefying. So excited to see MKP. I don't think any of the matches in this will be boring to watch.
The funniest is that group A and B are the weakest pretty scarry huh ?
On February 21 2012 05:36 IcookTacos wrote: Pool A and B looks terrefying. So excited to see MKP. I don't think any of the matches in this will be boring to watch.
The funniest is that group A and B are the weakest pretty scarry huh ?
I was initially going to yell at you (because I confused group B with group C), but instead I'm going to agree with you. A & B are very strong but groups C & D are ridiculous. Group A is probably the weakest, with MKP being a little inconsistent (although I generally think he's brilliant) and Boxer and Puma both being capable of losing to a foreigner of Ret's caliber.
A question to anyone -- Are only two players advancing from each group? If so that's kind of a shame. With groups this strong, I would have preferred a blizzard cup format with three advancing from each group. In this format, it's going to be really tough for any foreigners to advance. Ret may actually have the best chance because his zvt is strong and his group is comparatively "weak" (with "weak" being used extremely loosely here).
On February 21 2012 06:03 Janders wrote: THE GRACKEN!!! will win
The only win i forsee him getting is against ThorZaIN, since his style blends well against ThorZaINs. MC will cheese ruthlessly in an attempt to win them mental battle, and MVP is MVP.
On February 21 2012 06:50 Flobsen wrote: Is it live or cast from replays?
cast from replays
confirmation for: ToD VS BoxeR Ret VS PuMa for first day?
also, any date for the announcement of the place? and price of tickets? (palais des sports? olympia? ironsquid 2 au zenith?) and same with the announcement of the secret sponsor?
One of the greatest lineups I've seen lately for a tournament. Hardly anything to be desired, but I'd wish also there to be added Huk, Naniwa, Dimaga, Oz.
This looks like a fantastic tournament, less days of viewing, but all games have enormous potential to be fantastic, so I LOVE IT! Can't wait for this to begin!
On February 21 2012 16:03 tuho12345 wrote: Holy shit I didn't notice this tourney cuz I thought it was some random tourney. Unbelievable line up. OMG look at group B/C/D lol.
This is why you should put the prizepool (25k$) in the title imo. Some people won't even open the trade if they think it's a random 500$ tourney.
Because once you've opened the thread and seen the lineup, you have no choice but to watch it!
On February 21 2012 16:03 tuho12345 wrote: Holy shit I didn't notice this tourney cuz I thought it was some random tourney. Unbelievable line up. OMG look at group B/C/D lol.
This is why you should put the prizepool (25k$) in the title imo. Some people won't even open the trade if they think it's a random 500$ tourney.
Because once you've opened the thread and seen the lineup, you have no choice but to watch it!
was done for the presentation of the tournament : here
Yes but I agree with Black17: having the prizepool amount appearing in the title under the Community news will probably make more people checking it and clicking on it.
On February 21 2012 19:49 Diegopyc wrote: Yes but I agree with Black17: having the prizepool amount appearing in the title under the Community news will probably make more people checking it and clicking on it.
The original thread should have been under the community news and everyone would have remembered because who would forget such a wonderful name ?
Maybe this tournament should be in the "big event coverage" as well.
It obviously should be in the BIG event tracker. I imagine it's an oversight, TL wouldn't purposely be ignoring a competitor for TSL4. TL is the community-portal for the whole scene, and they act like it, so it should be added shortly. Though the original announcement of the 25.000$ tournament weirdly wasn't featured, that was probably a mistake also, and the group-release got the spotlight after just 3 days of people calling for it. They're probably just busy.
On February 21 2012 20:32 m0ck wrote: It obviously should be in the BIG event tracker. I imagine it's an oversight, TL wouldn't purposely be ignoring a competitor for TSL4. TL is the community-portal for the whole scene, and they act like it, so it should be added shortly. Though the original announcement of the 25.000$ tournament weirdly wasn't featured, that was probably a mistake also, and the group-release got the spotlight after just 3 days of people calling for it. They're probably just busy.
Yep, it's actually a competitor to the TSL, same kind of format. Awesome invites, first rounds online, but finals round offline. I think that's why it took so much time to be in the featured news, and why it's not in the big event tracker
On February 21 2012 20:32 m0ck wrote: It obviously should be in the BIG event tracker. I imagine it's an oversight, TL wouldn't purposely be ignoring a competitor for TSL4. TL is the community-portal for the whole scene, and they act like it, so it should be added shortly. Though the original announcement of the 25.000$ tournament weirdly wasn't featured, that was probably a mistake also, and the group-release got the spotlight after just 3 days of people calling for it. They're probably just busy.
There have been a lot of tournaments recently, and it does take some work for a tournament to stand out from the crowd. People probably overlooked this one, until they realized how big the prize pool was and how stacked the lineups were. But what really got people's attention was the inclusion of MVP, Nestea, MMA and Boxer, all very big names, in addition to the already invited top tier players like Leenock and MC.
Excited that this is an ongoing event, its like having a "regularly scheduled program" to look forward to - the qualifiers were extremely well organized and I'm looking forward to fantastic play being the center of focus instead of fumbling "production" :D
This is going to be amazing, can't wait! Futile predictions: MKP > Ret > Puma > Boxer > ToD MVP > MC > ThorZaIN > Symbol > Idra (sorry grackmeister, I hope you surprise me!) MMA > Jjaki > Stephano > Mana > Life Leenock >Alive > NesTea > HasuObs > Nerchio
...Although anything beyond top 2 should be taken with a sack of salt to go with the bag o' salt for the top 2, and really Puma should perhaps be over Ret, but I want to believe, damn it! No one would be happier than I if the foreigners bossed, but I do kind of doubt it. It's going to be fun to watch, anyway
What's funny though is that the stream being at 9pm CET, koreans will be playing each other starting at 5 AM XD What's your guess? will they wake up early, or go to bed super duper late?
On February 22 2012 23:00 vthree wrote: I think the online group stage will not be live but casted from replays, so they will probably schedule a time which is good for everyone
Correct.
The only thing which make me a bit sad about this tournament is that imo it's not promoted enough and a lot of people might miss it.
It's like almost the most stacked foreign tournament ever, it should be promoted more heavily :/ Don't know if TL is reluctant to promote it or what's the reason but I fear that a lot of people might discover Iron Squid way after its start.
On February 22 2012 23:22 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: A: MKP, Puma
B: Stephano, MMA (lag + best foreigner)
C: MC, MVP
D: Nestea, Leenock
All match are played on NA server, so the lag will be pretty even.
Still it is hardly possible to predict the outcome of Jjakji vs. Stephano. Jjakji is a GSL Champion but did not do that well in Team Leagues afaik and Stephano is Stephano. I would give a little edge to Jjakji for being korean but still I would say 55% : 45% at the most.
I think it's the most stacked tournament i've ever seen ^^ It's virtually impossible to predict anything, beside that we will see a big-ol foreigner slaughter ^^
On February 22 2012 23:22 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: A: MKP, Puma
B: Stephano, MMA (lag + best foreigner)
C: MC, MVP
D: Nestea, Leenock
All match are played on NA server, so the lag will be pretty even.
Still it is hardly possible to predict the outcome of Jjakji vs. Stephano. Jjakji is a GSL Champion but did not do that well in Team Leagues afaik and Stephano is Stephano. I would give a little edge to Jjakji for being korean but still I would say 55% : 45% at the most.
To me, this tournament is Korea VS The World. This is the chance for foreigners to shine, to show they are equal of Korea. This tournament will seal the eternal debate"Korea=World?", if none of the foreigners make it to the final bracket, it's definitly a proof that Korea is well ahead. On the contrary if they manage to win or rank well, i think nobody should say Kora is superior to foreigners anymore. That's the whole deal of the tournament if you ask me.
On February 22 2012 23:22 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: A: MKP, Puma
B: Stephano, MMA (lag + best foreigner)
C: MC, MVP
D: Nestea, Leenock
All match are played on NA server, so the lag will be pretty even.
Still it is hardly possible to predict the outcome of Jjakji vs. Stephano. Jjakji is a GSL Champion but did not do that well in Team Leagues afaik and Stephano is Stephano. I would give a little edge to Jjakji for being korean but still I would say 55% : 45% at the most.
To me, this tournament is Korea VS The World. This is the chance for foreigners to shine, to show they are equal of Korea. This tournament will seal the eternal debate"Korea=World?", if none of the foreigners make it to the final bracket, it's definitly a proof that Korea is well ahead. On the contrary if they manage to win or rank well, i think nobody should say Kora is superior to foreigners anymore. That's the whole deal of the tournament if you ask me.
That's asking a lot of a single tournament. As we saw last year, Korean domination can be overwhelming, or non-existant just a few weeks apart
On February 22 2012 23:22 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: A: MKP, Puma
B: Stephano, MMA (lag + best foreigner)
C: MC, MVP
D: Nestea, Leenock
All match are played on NA server, so the lag will be pretty even.
Still it is hardly possible to predict the outcome of Jjakji vs. Stephano. Jjakji is a GSL Champion but did not do that well in Team Leagues afaik and Stephano is Stephano. I would give a little edge to Jjakji for being korean but still I would say 55% : 45% at the most.
To me, this tournament is Korea VS The World. This is the chance for foreigners to shine, to show they are equal of Korea. This tournament will seal the eternal debate"Korea=World?", if none of the foreigners make it to the final bracket, it's definitly a proof that Korea is well ahead. On the contrary if they manage to win or rank well, i think nobody should say Kora is superior to foreigners anymore. That's the whole deal of the tournament if you ask me.
Ain't gonna happen. If Koreans win everything, it's nothing special. If foreigners win a few games, it's lag or bad playing times or something else.
On February 23 2012 01:40 stickyhands wrote: MKP > Puma > Boxer > Ret > ToD MVP > MC > Symbol > ThorZaIN > IdrA MMA > Life > Jjaki > Stephano > Mana Leenock > Alive > NesTea > Nerchio > HasuObs
I CALL IT NOW
Why do you think Life is better than jakji ? do you know him ? Because i never heard of this guy, i don't follow kr scene
He is pretty good. Simply the fact that he managed to qualify for this event (over players like Bomber and Keen) should tell you that. Best player on ZeNEX for sure, he also all-killed ReIGN in the IPL Team Arena Challenge (not that it was particularly difficult though).
I watched the qualifier and he was by far the best player, maybe his opponents were tired (it got pretty late), but he played really fucking well that day.
Jjakji is great, too, I don't know if I'd put Life ahead of him, but he's a serious contender!
Long post by the Iron squid team on the Pomf et Thud forums: It's in French, I guess I can translate it if they don't post an english version themselves XD
TLDR:
-Stream time = 9PM CET Rebroadcast = 10PM EST 6.30PM CET the day of the next stream
-quarter finals will be cast over two days, late in march, over a week end.
-Finals will take place on may 5.
-Cash prize does not come from sponsors.
-Slayers and IM called them back only the day before the second qualifier, which is why they added the 4 later.
-Tickets for the finals will cost around 30 euros for the whole day (11 AM to around 12 PM)
-Replay pack for the second qualifier should be out soon.
-They are reworking the Ironsquid.tv website to make it more user friendly.
Nous prenons conscience que nous assez peu communiqué sur le fofo sur Iron Squid, et nous souhaitons changer ça ! Je vais vous faire un bref récap du projet, n'hésitez pas à poser vos questions sur Iron Squid, j'y répondrait en éditant ce post.
Pour ce qui a déjà été annoncé :
Le format de diffusion d'Iron Squid c'est :
Les qualifications dispos en VOD sur le site www.ironsquid.tv dans l'onglet tv/vods, et relayées par la chaine Youtube P&T Les Poules diffusées sur la webtv ironsquid tous les mercredis et dimanche à partir du 29 Février en anglais et français, à 21h, puis rediffusées en FR et Anglais vers 4 heures du matin pour les ricains et Quebecois, et enfin une 3e rediffusion avant l'émission suivante, le mercredi ou dimanche à 18h30. Pour être clair, l'émission Iron Squid du 29 février sera dispo : le mercredi 29 a 21h, le jeudi 30 a 4h, et le Dimanche 3 à 18h30.
Les quarts de finale seront commentés en live sur deux jours pendant la deuxième moitié de Mars sur un week end
Les demies, la petite finale et la finale seront jouées sur scène dans une grosse salle Parisienne le 5 Mai. un stream sera disponible bien évidement, et on espère accueillir un max de gens dans la salle (elle comporte jusqu'à 2500 personnes, ça va être mortel !)
Le lineup est le suivant :
Groupe A: Boxer MKP PuMa Ret ToD
Groupe B : MVP MC Idra ThorZain Symbol
Groupe C : MMA Jjakji Stephano MaNa NexLife
Groupe D: Nestea Leenock Alive Nerchio HasuObs
Pour l'instant nous n'annonçons pas de sponsors, car rien n'est définitivement signé. Cependant le cash Price est garanti, pareil pour la deuxième édition.
L'avancement du projet au jour d'aujourd'hui (22/02/2012) : Nous sommes entrain de finir le décors du plateau (ouais y'a un plateau t'as vu !), on est 20 à bosser dans la P&T caverne, avec une grosse dose de Bordel et une trentaine en tout sur le projet, et c'est assez tripant de voir le projet prendre forme ! L'accueil du tournois est très positif (grandement dû au line up des joueurs ainsi qu'à la Direction Artistique du tournois), donc on kiff. les tournages d'émissions vont arriver vite, donc on a hâte de voir ce que ça donne ^^. La première affiche pour mercredi 29 c'est Tod Vs Boxer et Puma vs Ret , du lourd (mais de toute façon avec les joueurs présent ce sera toujours du lourd ...)
A vous de poser vos questions :
Ce sont les les managers de Boxer / MvP & co qui vous ont contactés pour etre ajouté sur les 16 prévus ou étaient ils déja prévus mais incertains donc non mis sur le planning prévu ?
A la base nous avons pensé Iron Squid comme un tournois à 16 joueurs (14 invités et 2 qualifiés). Cependant les team Slayers et IM ont répondu très tard (la veille des qualifications # 2). Comme nous ne pouvions pas refuser les big 4 alors que nous souhaitons faire un tournois d'envergure internationale, nous avons revus les plannings, et ralongé la durée des émissions pour pouvoir tout commenter (passer de 4 joueurs à 5 fait passer le nombre de rencontres total de 24 à 40 :}). PLUS DE LOL !
Vous parlez de cash prize assuré, mais vous n'etes pas sur des sponsors! A part mettre de l'argent de votre poche je ne vois pas comment il se peut que le cash prize soit assuré (à moins que certains sponsors ait déja signé et d'autres non)! En tout cas bien joué pour l'organisation du tournoi! Ca va envoyé du gros fat
L'argent ne viens pas forcément que des sponsors. Heureusement qu'on les a pas attendus sinon on serait encore entrain d'organiser O'Gaming 1 ... Iron Squid est financé par le capital de la boite de production qui organise, pas par les sponsors.
Vous avez une idée du prix des places =)?
On sera aux alentours de 30 euros pour la journée de show (le 5 Mai, de 11h à minuit environ).
Le site IronSquid.tv n'est pas très bon au niveau ergonomique et rapidité de navigation (on ne sait pas trop où aller pour trouver ce que l'on cherche). Vous comptez l'améliorer ? (dans 2 jours ?)
Nous sommes actuellement entrain de revoir l'accessibilité à l'info sur le site, pour que ce soit plus clair :}
On peut avoir les replays ? Apparemment vous allez les donner, mais mise à part les VoDs on a rien !
Le replay Pack des qualif # 2 devrait sortir d'ici peu, il sera uploadé sur un lien mediafire et posté dans une news sur www.ironsquid.tv
On February 23 2012 05:12 MuB wrote: Long post by the Iron squid team on the Pomf et Thud forums: It's in French, I guess I can translate it if they don't post an english version themselves XD
TLDR:
-Stream time = 9PM CET Rebroadcast = 10PM EST 6.30PM CET the day of the next stream
-quarter finals will be cast over two days, late in march, over a week end.
-Finals will take place on may 5.
-Cash prize does not come from sponsors.
-Slayers and IM called them back only the day before the second qualifier, which is why they added the 4 later.
-Tickets for the finals will cost around 30 euros for the whole day (11 AM to around 12 PM)
-Replay pack for the second qualifier should be out soon.
-They are reworking the Ironsquid.tv website to make it more user friendly.
Nous prenons conscience que nous assez peu communiqué sur le fofo sur Iron Squid, et nous souhaitons changer ça ! Je vais vous faire un bref récap du projet, n'hésitez pas à poser vos questions sur Iron Squid, j'y répondrait en éditant ce post.
Pour ce qui a déjà été annoncé :
Le format de diffusion d'Iron Squid c'est :
Les qualifications dispos en VOD sur le site www.ironsquid.tv dans l'onglet tv/vods, et relayées par la chaine Youtube P&T Les Poules diffusées sur la webtv ironsquid tous les mercredis et dimanche à partir du 29 Février en anglais et français, à 21h, puis rediffusées en FR et Anglais vers 4 heures du matin pour les ricains et Quebecois, et enfin une 3e rediffusion avant l'émission suivante, le mercredi ou dimanche à 18h30. Pour être clair, l'émission Iron Squid du 29 février sera dispo : le mercredi 29 a 21h, le jeudi 30 a 4h, et le Dimanche 3 à 18h30.
Les quarts de finale seront commentés en live sur deux jours pendant la deuxième moitié de Mars sur un week end
Les demies, la petite finale et la finale seront jouées sur scène dans une grosse salle Parisienne le 5 Mai. un stream sera disponible bien évidement, et on espère accueillir un max de gens dans la salle (elle comporte jusqu'à 2500 personnes, ça va être mortel !)
Le lineup est le suivant :
Groupe A: Boxer MKP PuMa Ret ToD
Groupe B : MVP MC Idra ThorZain Symbol
Groupe C : MMA Jjakji Stephano MaNa NexLife
Groupe D: Nestea Leenock Alive Nerchio HasuObs
Pour l'instant nous n'annonçons pas de sponsors, car rien n'est définitivement signé. Cependant le cash Price est garanti, pareil pour la deuxième édition.
L'avancement du projet au jour d'aujourd'hui (22/02/2012) : Nous sommes entrain de finir le décors du plateau (ouais y'a un plateau t'as vu !), on est 20 à bosser dans la P&T caverne, avec une grosse dose de Bordel et une trentaine en tout sur le projet, et c'est assez tripant de voir le projet prendre forme ! L'accueil du tournois est très positif (grandement dû au line up des joueurs ainsi qu'à la Direction Artistique du tournois), donc on kiff. les tournages d'émissions vont arriver vite, donc on a hâte de voir ce que ça donne ^^. La première affiche pour mercredi 29 c'est Tod Vs Boxer et Puma vs Ret , du lourd (mais de toute façon avec les joueurs présent ce sera toujours du lourd ...)
A vous de poser vos questions :
Ce sont les les managers de Boxer / MvP & co qui vous ont contactés pour etre ajouté sur les 16 prévus ou étaient ils déja prévus mais incertains donc non mis sur le planning prévu ?
A la base nous avons pensé Iron Squid comme un tournois à 16 joueurs (14 invités et 2 qualifiés). Cependant les team Slayers et IM ont répondu très tard (la veille des qualifications # 2). Comme nous ne pouvions pas refuser les big 4 alors que nous souhaitons faire un tournois d'envergure internationale, nous avons revus les plannings, et ralongé la durée des émissions pour pouvoir tout commenter (passer de 4 joueurs à 5 fait passer le nombre de rencontres total de 24 à 40 :}). PLUS DE LOL !
Vous parlez de cash prize assuré, mais vous n'etes pas sur des sponsors! A part mettre de l'argent de votre poche je ne vois pas comment il se peut que le cash prize soit assuré (à moins que certains sponsors ait déja signé et d'autres non)! En tout cas bien joué pour l'organisation du tournoi! Ca va envoyé du gros fat
L'argent ne viens pas forcément que des sponsors. Heureusement qu'on les a pas attendus sinon on serait encore entrain d'organiser O'Gaming 1 ... Iron Squid est financé par le capital de la boite de production qui organise, pas par les sponsors.
Vous avez une idée du prix des places =)?
On sera aux alentours de 30 euros pour la journée de show (le 5 Mai, de 11h à minuit environ).
Le site IronSquid.tv n'est pas très bon au niveau ergonomique et rapidité de navigation (on ne sait pas trop où aller pour trouver ce que l'on cherche). Vous comptez l'améliorer ? (dans 2 jours ?)
Nous sommes actuellement entrain de revoir l'accessibilité à l'info sur le site, pour que ce soit plus clair :}
On peut avoir les replays ? Apparemment vous allez les donner, mais mise à part les VoDs on a rien !
Le replay Pack des qualif # 2 devrait sortir d'ici peu, il sera uploadé sur un lien mediafire et posté dans une news sur www.ironsquid.tv
Peut on connaitre votre favori respectif?
[Pomf] : STEPHANOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Yeah, they also say that Cash Price for the second Iron Squid edition is secured too.
On February 23 2012 05:12 MuB wrote: Long post by the Iron squid team on the Pomf et Thud forums: It's in French, I guess I can translate it if they don't post an english version themselves XD
TLDR:
-Stream time = 9PM CET Rebroadcast = 10PM EST 6.30PM CET the day of the next stream
-quarter finals will be cast over two days, late in march, over a week end.
-Finals will take place on may 5.
-Cash prize does not come from sponsors.
-Slayers and IM called them back only the day before the second qualifier, which is why they added the 4 later.
-Tickets for the finals will cost around 30 euros for the whole day (11 AM to around 12 PM)
-Replay pack for the second qualifier should be out soon.
-They are reworking the Ironsquid.tv website to make it more user friendly.
On February 23 2012 05:12 MuB wrote: Long post by the Iron squid team on the Pomf et Thud forums: It's in French, I guess I can translate it if they don't post an english version themselves XD
TLDR:
-Stream time = 9PM CET Rebroadcast = 10PM EST 6.30PM CET the day of the next stream
-quarter finals will be cast over two days, late in march, over a week end.
-Finals will take place on may 5.
-Cash prize does not come from sponsors.
-Slayers and IM called them back only the day before the second qualifier, which is why they added the 4 later.
-Tickets for the finals will cost around 30 euros for the whole day (11 AM to around 12 PM)
-Replay pack for the second qualifier should be out soon.
-They are reworking the Ironsquid.tv website to make it more user friendly.
Late in march ? More like at the end of April.
"Les quarts de finale seront commentés en live sur deux jours pendant la deuxième moitié de Mars sur un week end"
"Quarter final will be casted live over two days, during the second half of March, over a week end"
On February 23 2012 05:12 MuB wrote: Long post by the Iron squid team on the Pomf et Thud forums: It's in French, I guess I can translate it if they don't post an english version themselves XD
TLDR:
-Stream time = 9PM CET Rebroadcast = 10PM EST 6.30PM CET the day of the next stream
-quarter finals will be cast over two days, late in march, over a week end.
-Finals will take place on may 5.
-Cash prize does not come from sponsors.
-Slayers and IM called them back only the day before the second qualifier, which is why they added the 4 later.
-Tickets for the finals will cost around 30 euros for the whole day (11 AM to around 12 PM)
-Replay pack for the second qualifier should be out soon.
-They are reworking the Ironsquid.tv website to make it more user friendly.
Late in march ? More like at the end of April.
"Les quarts de finale seront commentés en live sur deux jours pendant la deuxième moitié de Mars sur un week end"
"Quarter final will be casted live over two days, during the second half of March, over a week end"
Yeah, i know that is what they said, but it seems wrong, they said they're going to cast 2 times per week, and 2 or 3 bo3 per session. Approximatively, in one month, you have 8 sessions, so a maximum of 24 bo3. There are 40 bo3 just for the groups, it will need more than one month, plus no sense to have the quarter final at the end of march if we have to wait an entire month to see the semi-final and final.
On February 23 2012 05:12 MuB wrote: Long post by the Iron squid team on the Pomf et Thud forums: It's in French, I guess I can translate it if they don't post an english version themselves XD
TLDR:
-Stream time = 9PM CET Rebroadcast = 10PM EST 6.30PM CET the day of the next stream
-quarter finals will be cast over two days, late in march, over a week end.
-Finals will take place on may 5.
-Cash prize does not come from sponsors.
-Slayers and IM called them back only the day before the second qualifier, which is why they added the 4 later.
-Tickets for the finals will cost around 30 euros for the whole day (11 AM to around 12 PM)
-Replay pack for the second qualifier should be out soon.
-They are reworking the Ironsquid.tv website to make it more user friendly.
Late in march ? More like at the end of April.
"Les quarts de finale seront commentés en live sur deux jours pendant la deuxième moitié de Mars sur un week end"
"Quarter final will be casted live over two days, during the second half of March, over a week end"
Yeah, i know that is what they said, but it seems wrong, they said they're going to cast 2 times per week, and 2 or 3 bo3 per session. Approximatively, in one month, you have 8 sessions, so a maximum of 24 bo3. There are 40 bo3 just for the groups, it will need more than one month, plus no sense to have the quarter final at the end of march if we have to wait an entire month to see the semi-final and final.
They also say that there will be 40 matches total (didnt think it was important to mention it). soooo... Again, iuno
On February 23 2012 01:40 stickyhands wrote: MKP > Puma > Boxer > Ret > ToD MVP > MC > Symbol > ThorZaIN > IdrA MMA > Life > Jjaki > Stephano > Mana Leenock > Alive > NesTea > Nerchio > HasuObs
I CALL IT NOW
Why do you think Life is better than jakji ? do you know him ? Because i never heard of this guy, i don't follow kr scene
Life will be in Code S fairly soon and is IMO the most promising up and coming zerg in Korea (along with Symbol). That said, I was watching a zvz of his recently (can't remember against who -- it was in a clan war) and it's definitely not on Stephano's level so I don't see him beating Stephano. His tvz is very good as well but I would have to favor MMA and Jjiakji against him. In short, I don't see him advancing, but he's extremely talented and it's not outside the realm of possibility.
=>>Pomf, one of the french commentators, as well as one of the founding father of Alt Tab Production (who manages the various P&T projects), was interviewed by millenium:
M]Spit : Bonjour Pomf, merci d'avoir trouvé un moment pour nous dans ton agenda de ministre. Comment vas-tu en cette belle journée et es-tu vraiment pris comme un ministre depuis le lancement d'O'gaming ?
Pomf : Hello Spit, aujourd'hui ça groove tranquillement , je vais bouger aux locaux dans quelques minutes. Ben écoutes c'est un peu la guerre en ce moment. O'gaming nous avait déjà un peu secoué le planning après le Bataclan, et avec le lancement d'Iron Squid, on vient de remettre un petit coup de stim dans l'équipe.
Peux-tu être plus clair sur ce qu'est aujourd'hui O'gaming exactement, combien de personnes travaillent sur le projet ?
O'Gaming c'est un concept fédérateur, que ce soit fédérateur de différents commentateurs, ou différents jeux. L'esprit O'Gaming c'est de se dire qu'on peut mater du jeu vidéo de compétition dans un cadre amical, cosy et optimisé pour le divertissement (Salle de concert comme le Bataclan pour O'Gaming II), ou alors en live le soir avec tes potes (webTV O'Gaming). Mais O'Gaming c'est deux projets parmi une dizaine qui composent toute l'activité de la P&T Caverne.
Chips et Noi ont récemment et officiellement intégré la structure Alt Tab Productions, qui gère tous les projets de P&T, avec des licences comme Kings Of Europe. Bref, aujourd'hui dans ALt Tab, on compte 9 personnes à temps plein, et c'est sans parler du dossier Iron Squid (qui fait appel a une vingtaine d'autres personnes à lui tout seul).
Quels sont vos projets à venir pour l'année 2012 ?
Nous lançons les émissions Iron Squid le mercredi 29 février, nous aurons probablement courant mars ou début avril un Kings of Europe II sur League of Legends, puis les finales Iron Squid début mai dans une grosse salle Parisienne, probablement une soirée dans une salle avant août (Style O'Gaming III ou autre) et tous les projets qui se présenterons à nous d'ici là.
Est-ce que l'arrivée d'une chaine O'gaming sur le paf est un but ultime pour vous dans l'esprit initial de faire connaitre et valoriser l'eSport au plus grand nombre ?
Le peu d'expérience que nous avons sur ce sujet nous pousse à croire que la télévision, c'est beaucoup de prises de tête (formats timés à la seconde, liberté d'expression incomplète, minimum de qualité technique à respecter, etc.) pour au final un succès d'estime relatif (le modèle de la TV est de plus en plus remis en questions, par YouTube et les plateformes de partage de vidéos notamment, et Internet en général). Faire percer une émission de sport électronique sur une chaîne hertzienne ou TNT serait un succès en terme de notoriété pour le domaine et peu être une reconnaissance pour le milieu (et encore je ne suis pas sûr), mais je ne pense pas qu'il faille s'accrocher à tout prix à ce vieux rafiot qu'est la télévision française. Ce serait un peu comme planter un drapeau sur une météorite en train de crasher. Peut-être avec la télé connectée ? Internet nous a fait (P&T et C&N) et on compte bien y rester.
Au jour d’aujourd’hui, pouvez-vous vivre de votre investissement dans l'eSport ?
Si par vivre, tu veux dire : "survivre sans avoir de source de revenus/métier annexe", la réponse est OUI (Wouhou !). Cela nous a pris neuf mois, mais nous arrivons finalement à rémunérer les quatre pères fondateurs d'Alt Tab (Noki, Georges, Thud, et moi même), et nous pouvons recruter les gens dont nous avons besoin en s'assurant de pouvoir les payer pour leur travail (nous évitons de travailler avec des bénévoles, ça part toujours en sucette à un moment ou un autre). Il a fallu faire des choix pas faciles, notamment se rendre à l'évidence qu'on ne pouvait plus snober les revenus de la pub YouTube plus longtemps si on voulait manger, mais je crois que les gens on compris la démarche et puis bon, c'est des problématiques classiques de boite qui se monte en période de crise.
Parlons justement de votre dernier bébé, l'Iron Squid. D'où vient le projet et en quelle mesure Pomf & Thud et O'gaming sont investis ?
A la base Iron Squid, c'est la rencontre de Alt Tab et d'investisseurs passionnés de Starcraft 2. En avril dernier, nous avons rencontré Fabian G. qui souhaitait créer une ligue pro SC2, mais qui n'avait aucune idée de la manière de procéder. Étant donné que nous non plus, nous nous sommes penchés sur la question ensemble, nous avons rencontré un paquet d'acteurs aguerris du milieu, et avons finit par aboutir à la formule d'Iron Squid (qui s'est appelé projet X pendant longtemps jusqu'à ce qu'on trouve le nom), c'est-à-dire du show online orienté pour les spectateurs (à la manière d'une TSL) où les gens pourraient voir l'intégralité des rencontres, boosté par une finale digne d'un concert d'AC DC.
Nous avons un peu laissé le concept "ligue" de côté, car nous voulions nous concentrer sur l'aspect show et divertissant de la première édition, sans se prendre la tête avec des classements supposés objectif. Nous avions depuis le début l'envie de proposer une version anglaise et française pour ce tournoi, et avons donc pris contact avec Total Biscuit et Apollo pour qu'ils couvrent la version anglophone, ce qu'ils ont accepté sans soucis après être venus assister à O'Gaming II au Bataclan en voyant l'effervescence du phénomène en France.
Nous nous sommes entourés de gens très compétents (Incolas, Kaoru & Shiba de la team Panda) et avons monté le dossier de sponsoring ensemble, avant d'affiner notre formule. Mais il manquait quelque chose. Nous ne voulions pas refaire une énième compétition au nom pompeux qui se résume en anagrammes anti-sexe au possible, nous voulions donner une teinte particulière et personnelle au tournoi, l'inclure dans une histoire, un univers. D'où est sorti le nom "Iron Squid" (après moult brainstorming avec Noki), soit le "Calamar de Fer" et le fil rouge du tournoi :
"Les meilleurs joueurs du monde combattront non pas pour prouver qu'ils sont les meilleurs, mais pour décrocher le titre d'Iron Squid, une espèce de gardien silencieux de l'Humanité."
Le reste de l'histoire va se développer au fil du tournoi, j'arrête le spoil ici.
Quel est selon toi le principal facteur pour que des joueurs de renommée internationale acceptent vos invitations ? Est-ce l'argent, la qualité de l'organisation ou toute autre chose ?
Nous avons bien réfléchi (à postériori hein, puisque nous ne pensions jamais que les tops Coréens se pointeraient en lançant les invitations) et nous pensons que c'est la qualité de l'organisation lors des deux qualifications qui a rassuré les joueurs, associés à un cash prize pas dégueulasse, un nombre relativement limité de joueurs, et un voyage tout frais payés à la finale. Kaoru et Shiba ont fait un travail remarquable à ce niveau, et je pense que la qualité de la line-up leur est en grande partie due.
Donc pour répondre à la question précédente, c’est toute la team Alt Tab qui bosse sur Iron Squid, en plus d'une vingtaine de personnes externes (webmasters, administrateurs de tournois, décorateurs, maquilleuses, cadreurs, making of, acteurs, monteurs, réalisateur, etc.).
On sait que la finale se jouera à Paris. Avez-vous plus d'informations là dessus ?
La finale se déroulera le 5 mai à Paris et durera de 11h à minuit. Au programme : les demi-finales, petite finale et grande finale, avec la touch P&T pour rendre ça un peu délirant et bon trip. Cela se déroulera dans une salle du centre de Paris (dont le nom sera révélé fin mars). Bien sûr, un stream sera disponible, mais nous essayerons de proposer une expérience particulière aux gens qui se déplaceront (si l'ambiance mise par 2500 personnes super énervées ne suffit pas). Ça risque d'être une journée de grand malade.
Si l'évènement se déroule bien, peut-on espérer une seconde édition ?
Une deuxième édition est déjà prévue début septembre. Nous avons voulu calibrer ce projet sur deux éditions pour êtres sûrs de proposer quelque chose de qualité au final (on apprend avec la première, on développe avec la deuxième édition). La question se posera donc pour la 3e édition, mais vu l'accueil que nous avons aujourd'hui (du public francophone, mais surtout de la part des anglophones), on ne se pose pas encore la question.
Comment analyses-tu les neuf derniers mois de votre travail sur Ogaming, et comment vois-tu votre projet dans neuf mois ?
Nous nous sommes fait plaisir, et avons tenté pleins de choses ! Nous avons lancé le concept bar/concert O'Gaming, sur deux éditions, et qui a été vraiment tripant à réaliser. Puis la webTV (avec les cafouillages du début), mais qui nous apporte aujourd'hui la solidité nécessaire pour organiser un Iron Squid en streaming, Kings of Europe avec Chips et Noi a été une belle surprise aussi. Bref, aujourd'hui nous avons exploré pas mal de pistes, nous en avons laissé quelques-unes de côté pour le moment (P&T Academie notamment).
Ces derniers mois nous avons rencontré pas mal de nouvelles têtes grâce à O'GamingTV, Zerator, BobleGob, Ken Bogard, mais aussi Anoss, Tolki, Kaoru, BoZo. Après, tout n'est pas rose et parfois, le retour des gens est un peu décevant quand ils ne voient que les points négatifs. Mais tant que les gens nous suivront et comprendrons notre travail, on continuera à ouvrir des portes.
Un message aux gens qui vous suivent, aux lecteurs de millenium.org ?
Merci de continuer à nous suivre, dans les bons et les mauvais moments. Ça fait bientôt deux ans qu'on s'est lancés dans l'aventure, et on ne regrette rien. Les évènements de qualité commencent à fleurir en France (Egg One, LDLC SC2 Winter Trophy) et c'est le signe que les gens ont envie de faire des choses, se lancent et sont passionnés. Je pense que c'est ça qu"il faut soutenir, plutôt que de pointer du doigt dès que quelque chose ne marche pas comme sur le papier (lag sur les streams, problème de sons, de budgets, etc. ).
On se rend vite compte que quand on essaye de créer quelque chose avec de l'ambition, rien ne se passe comme prévu, et vu la jeunesse du sport électronique, c'est un peu tôt pour tacler les projets qui innovent, ou les "concurrents". Pour les lecteurs de millenium.org : Envoyez des mp à BoBleGob en lui montrant tout votre amour, il le mérite :D
The two most interesting things to learn from this interview are the following:
-the location of the finals will be announced towards the end of march, it is in the center of Paris.
Nous ne voulions pas refaire une énième compétition au nom pompeux qui se résume en anagrammes anti-sexe au possible, nous voulions donner une teinte particulière et personnelle au tournoi, l'inclure dans une histoire, un univers. D'où est sorti le nom "Iron Squid" (après moult brainstorming avec Noki), soit le "Calamar de Fer" et le fil rouge du tournoi :
"Les meilleurs joueurs du monde combattront non pas pour prouver qu'ils sont les meilleurs, mais pour décrocher le titre d'Iron Squid, une espèce de gardien silencieux de l'Humanité."
Le reste de l'histoire va se développer au fil du tournoi, j'arrête le spoil ici.
We did not want to make another random tournament with a pompous name that can be summarized to an unattractive anagram, we wanted to give a particular and personal flavor to the tournament, to make it part of a story, a universe. This is how the "Iron Squid" name emerged (after a lot of brainstorming with Noki), the "Calamar de Fer" and the guiding principle of the tournament:
"The best players in the world will not fight to prove that they are the best, but to receive the title of Iron Squid, a sort of silent guardian of Humanity"
The rest of the story will develop throughout the tournament, but I'll stop the spoil here.
couple infos there: The planning of Iron Squid started in June, and Iron Squid has a 6 figure budget. Moreover, they purposedly "ignored" a few good players in selecting the invitations because their style is "predictable", and they want to have interesting and cool matches.
Bratok est très fun a suivre c'est vrai, mais le mettre dans une des poules l'aurait exposé à de sévères humiliations ... Bref il est pas encore au niveau des autres joueurs.
Vu la répartition des joueurs (1 protoss dans chaque poule, idem pour les invités surprise, Idra/MC ensemble), le tableau n'a pas été fait au hasard. Y a-t-il eu débat entre les organisateurs pour le mode de tirage ?
Les groupes n'ont pas été tirés au hasard, ils ont été déterminé par seed ainsi que par anticipation de certains match que l'on voulait voir se dérouler (Idra Mc, Boxer Mkp, Nerchio Nestea etc...). Les groupes sont donc faits de manière complètement subjective, ce que nous assumons complètement.
Sinon, est ce que vous allez pouvoir organiser des interviews pendant les phases finales, entre les parties et tout, et si tel est le cas vous avez prévu un traducteur franco-coréen (ne le cachons pas, il n'y aura plus que des Coréens à partir des 1/8 ème de finale)?
Il y aura effectivement des interviews entre les match, avec traducteurs Coréens sur scène et en backstage.
La Team Iron Squid à t'elle prévu une sorte de trophée "spécial Iron Squid"(je parle d'un trophée au sens matériel)?
Oui un trophée sera réalisé par un artisan talentueux, on a commencé les maquettes ça va péter
lors de la finale, il y aura bien sur pomf et thud sur place, mais TB et dApollo ils auront droit à leur petite place aussi?
Nous avons prévu un emplacement pour qu'ils puissent caster pour le stream Anglophone avec l'ambiance de la salle, cependant leur présence n'est pas assurée, on vous tient au jus dès qu'on a l'info
il y aura un petit montage pomf&thud a travers le temps ogaming1/2>ironsquid pour bien montrer au monde que c'est nous les meilleurs?
Un Making of est entrain d’être réalisé, il sera diffusé tout au long de la saison, et couvrira pas mal de thème, y compris la finale of course
vous avez enfin été featured dans les community news sur TL, j'espère que ça va continuer, ça se passe comment avec eux? c'est vous qui êtes allez les chercher pour avoir l'annonce des groupes en home? on peut espérer encore plus de pub pour la finale?
Nous sommes "allés les chercher" pour le premier post de lancement du tournois, cependant c'est suite aux demandes répétées de la communauté TeamLiquid que le post sur les groupes d'Iron Squid a été mis en avant dans les "community news".
d'ailleurs, autre point, les stream ogaming et ironsquid sont pour ainsi dire jamais featured dans la liste des stream sur TL, vous comptez y remédier?
Oui
===> Groups are not random, they decided based on seeds, and the matches they wanted to see "(Idra Mc, Boxer Mkp, Nerchio Nestea etc...)" groups are purely subjective and they assume their choice completely. <====
On February 24 2012 04:16 MuB wrote: =>>Pomf, one of the french commentators, as well as one of the founding father of Alt Tab Production (who manages the various P&T projects), was interviewed by millenium:
M]Spit : Bonjour Pomf, merci d'avoir trouvé un moment pour nous dans ton agenda de ministre. Comment vas-tu en cette belle journée et es-tu vraiment pris comme un ministre depuis le lancement d'O'gaming ?
Pomf : Hello Spit, aujourd'hui ça groove tranquillement , je vais bouger aux locaux dans quelques minutes. Ben écoutes c'est un peu la guerre en ce moment. O'gaming nous avait déjà un peu secoué le planning après le Bataclan, et avec le lancement d'Iron Squid, on vient de remettre un petit coup de stim dans l'équipe.
Peux-tu être plus clair sur ce qu'est aujourd'hui O'gaming exactement, combien de personnes travaillent sur le projet ?
O'Gaming c'est un concept fédérateur, que ce soit fédérateur de différents commentateurs, ou différents jeux. L'esprit O'Gaming c'est de se dire qu'on peut mater du jeu vidéo de compétition dans un cadre amical, cosy et optimisé pour le divertissement (Salle de concert comme le Bataclan pour O'Gaming II), ou alors en live le soir avec tes potes (webTV O'Gaming). Mais O'Gaming c'est deux projets parmi une dizaine qui composent toute l'activité de la P&T Caverne.
Chips et Noi ont récemment et officiellement intégré la structure Alt Tab Productions, qui gère tous les projets de P&T, avec des licences comme Kings Of Europe. Bref, aujourd'hui dans ALt Tab, on compte 9 personnes à temps plein, et c'est sans parler du dossier Iron Squid (qui fait appel a une vingtaine d'autres personnes à lui tout seul).
Quels sont vos projets à venir pour l'année 2012 ?
Nous lançons les émissions Iron Squid le mercredi 29 février, nous aurons probablement courant mars ou début avril un Kings of Europe II sur League of Legends, puis les finales Iron Squid début mai dans une grosse salle Parisienne, probablement une soirée dans une salle avant août (Style O'Gaming III ou autre) et tous les projets qui se présenterons à nous d'ici là.
Est-ce que l'arrivée d'une chaine O'gaming sur le paf est un but ultime pour vous dans l'esprit initial de faire connaitre et valoriser l'eSport au plus grand nombre ?
Le peu d'expérience que nous avons sur ce sujet nous pousse à croire que la télévision, c'est beaucoup de prises de tête (formats timés à la seconde, liberté d'expression incomplète, minimum de qualité technique à respecter, etc.) pour au final un succès d'estime relatif (le modèle de la TV est de plus en plus remis en questions, par YouTube et les plateformes de partage de vidéos notamment, et Internet en général). Faire percer une émission de sport électronique sur une chaîne hertzienne ou TNT serait un succès en terme de notoriété pour le domaine et peu être une reconnaissance pour le milieu (et encore je ne suis pas sûr), mais je ne pense pas qu'il faille s'accrocher à tout prix à ce vieux rafiot qu'est la télévision française. Ce serait un peu comme planter un drapeau sur une météorite en train de crasher. Peut-être avec la télé connectée ? Internet nous a fait (P&T et C&N) et on compte bien y rester.
Au jour d’aujourd’hui, pouvez-vous vivre de votre investissement dans l'eSport ?
Si par vivre, tu veux dire : "survivre sans avoir de source de revenus/métier annexe", la réponse est OUI (Wouhou !). Cela nous a pris neuf mois, mais nous arrivons finalement à rémunérer les quatre pères fondateurs d'Alt Tab (Noki, Georges, Thud, et moi même), et nous pouvons recruter les gens dont nous avons besoin en s'assurant de pouvoir les payer pour leur travail (nous évitons de travailler avec des bénévoles, ça part toujours en sucette à un moment ou un autre). Il a fallu faire des choix pas faciles, notamment se rendre à l'évidence qu'on ne pouvait plus snober les revenus de la pub YouTube plus longtemps si on voulait manger, mais je crois que les gens on compris la démarche et puis bon, c'est des problématiques classiques de boite qui se monte en période de crise.
Parlons justement de votre dernier bébé, l'Iron Squid. D'où vient le projet et en quelle mesure Pomf & Thud et O'gaming sont investis ?
A la base Iron Squid, c'est la rencontre de Alt Tab et d'investisseurs passionnés de Starcraft 2. En avril dernier, nous avons rencontré Fabian G. qui souhaitait créer une ligue pro SC2, mais qui n'avait aucune idée de la manière de procéder. Étant donné que nous non plus, nous nous sommes penchés sur la question ensemble, nous avons rencontré un paquet d'acteurs aguerris du milieu, et avons finit par aboutir à la formule d'Iron Squid (qui s'est appelé projet X pendant longtemps jusqu'à ce qu'on trouve le nom), c'est-à-dire du show online orienté pour les spectateurs (à la manière d'une TSL) où les gens pourraient voir l'intégralité des rencontres, boosté par une finale digne d'un concert d'AC DC.
Nous avons un peu laissé le concept "ligue" de côté, car nous voulions nous concentrer sur l'aspect show et divertissant de la première édition, sans se prendre la tête avec des classements supposés objectif. Nous avions depuis le début l'envie de proposer une version anglaise et française pour ce tournoi, et avons donc pris contact avec Total Biscuit et Apollo pour qu'ils couvrent la version anglophone, ce qu'ils ont accepté sans soucis après être venus assister à O'Gaming II au Bataclan en voyant l'effervescence du phénomène en France.
Nous nous sommes entourés de gens très compétents (Incolas, Kaoru & Shiba de la team Panda) et avons monté le dossier de sponsoring ensemble, avant d'affiner notre formule. Mais il manquait quelque chose. Nous ne voulions pas refaire une énième compétition au nom pompeux qui se résume en anagrammes anti-sexe au possible, nous voulions donner une teinte particulière et personnelle au tournoi, l'inclure dans une histoire, un univers. D'où est sorti le nom "Iron Squid" (après moult brainstorming avec Noki), soit le "Calamar de Fer" et le fil rouge du tournoi :
"Les meilleurs joueurs du monde combattront non pas pour prouver qu'ils sont les meilleurs, mais pour décrocher le titre d'Iron Squid, une espèce de gardien silencieux de l'Humanité."
Le reste de l'histoire va se développer au fil du tournoi, j'arrête le spoil ici.
Quel est selon toi le principal facteur pour que des joueurs de renommée internationale acceptent vos invitations ? Est-ce l'argent, la qualité de l'organisation ou toute autre chose ?
Nous avons bien réfléchi (à postériori hein, puisque nous ne pensions jamais que les tops Coréens se pointeraient en lançant les invitations) et nous pensons que c'est la qualité de l'organisation lors des deux qualifications qui a rassuré les joueurs, associés à un cash prize pas dégueulasse, un nombre relativement limité de joueurs, et un voyage tout frais payés à la finale. Kaoru et Shiba ont fait un travail remarquable à ce niveau, et je pense que la qualité de la line-up leur est en grande partie due.
Donc pour répondre à la question précédente, c’est toute la team Alt Tab qui bosse sur Iron Squid, en plus d'une vingtaine de personnes externes (webmasters, administrateurs de tournois, décorateurs, maquilleuses, cadreurs, making of, acteurs, monteurs, réalisateur, etc.).
On sait que la finale se jouera à Paris. Avez-vous plus d'informations là dessus ?
La finale se déroulera le 5 mai à Paris et durera de 11h à minuit. Au programme : les demi-finales, petite finale et grande finale, avec la touch P&T pour rendre ça un peu délirant et bon trip. Cela se déroulera dans une salle du centre de Paris (dont le nom sera révélé fin mars). Bien sûr, un stream sera disponible, mais nous essayerons de proposer une expérience particulière aux gens qui se déplaceront (si l'ambiance mise par 2500 personnes super énervées ne suffit pas). Ça risque d'être une journée de grand malade.
Si l'évènement se déroule bien, peut-on espérer une seconde édition ?
Une deuxième édition est déjà prévue début septembre. Nous avons voulu calibrer ce projet sur deux éditions pour êtres sûrs de proposer quelque chose de qualité au final (on apprend avec la première, on développe avec la deuxième édition). La question se posera donc pour la 3e édition, mais vu l'accueil que nous avons aujourd'hui (du public francophone, mais surtout de la part des anglophones), on ne se pose pas encore la question.
Comment analyses-tu les neuf derniers mois de votre travail sur Ogaming, et comment vois-tu votre projet dans neuf mois ?
Nous nous sommes fait plaisir, et avons tenté pleins de choses ! Nous avons lancé le concept bar/concert O'Gaming, sur deux éditions, et qui a été vraiment tripant à réaliser. Puis la webTV (avec les cafouillages du début), mais qui nous apporte aujourd'hui la solidité nécessaire pour organiser un Iron Squid en streaming, Kings of Europe avec Chips et Noi a été une belle surprise aussi. Bref, aujourd'hui nous avons exploré pas mal de pistes, nous en avons laissé quelques-unes de côté pour le moment (P&T Academie notamment).
Ces derniers mois nous avons rencontré pas mal de nouvelles têtes grâce à O'GamingTV, Zerator, BobleGob, Ken Bogard, mais aussi Anoss, Tolki, Kaoru, BoZo. Après, tout n'est pas rose et parfois, le retour des gens est un peu décevant quand ils ne voient que les points négatifs. Mais tant que les gens nous suivront et comprendrons notre travail, on continuera à ouvrir des portes.
Un message aux gens qui vous suivent, aux lecteurs de millenium.org ?
Merci de continuer à nous suivre, dans les bons et les mauvais moments. Ça fait bientôt deux ans qu'on s'est lancés dans l'aventure, et on ne regrette rien. Les évènements de qualité commencent à fleurir en France (Egg One, LDLC SC2 Winter Trophy) et c'est le signe que les gens ont envie de faire des choses, se lancent et sont passionnés. Je pense que c'est ça qu"il faut soutenir, plutôt que de pointer du doigt dès que quelque chose ne marche pas comme sur le papier (lag sur les streams, problème de sons, de budgets, etc. ).
On se rend vite compte que quand on essaye de créer quelque chose avec de l'ambition, rien ne se passe comme prévu, et vu la jeunesse du sport électronique, c'est un peu tôt pour tacler les projets qui innovent, ou les "concurrents". Pour les lecteurs de millenium.org : Envoyez des mp à BoBleGob en lui montrant tout votre amour, il le mérite :D
The two most interesting things to learn from this interview are the following:
-the location of the finals will be announced towards the end of march, it is in the center of Paris.
Nous ne voulions pas refaire une énième compétition au nom pompeux qui se résume en anagrammes anti-sexe au possible, nous voulions donner une teinte particulière et personnelle au tournoi, l'inclure dans une histoire, un univers. D'où est sorti le nom "Iron Squid" (après moult brainstorming avec Noki), soit le "Calamar de Fer" et le fil rouge du tournoi :
"Les meilleurs joueurs du monde combattront non pas pour prouver qu'ils sont les meilleurs, mais pour décrocher le titre d'Iron Squid, une espèce de gardien silencieux de l'Humanité."
Le reste de l'histoire va se développer au fil du tournoi, j'arrête le spoil ici.
We did not want to make another random tournament with a pompous name that can be summarized to an unattractive anagram, we wanted to give a particular and personal flavor to the tournament, to make it part of a story, a universe. This is how the "Iron Squid" name emerged (after a lot of brainstorming with Noki), the "Calamar de Fer" and the guiding principle of the tournament:
"The best players in the world will not fight to prove that they are the best, but to receive the title of Iron Squid, a sort of silent guardian of Humanity"
The rest of the story will develop throughout the tournament, but I'll stop the spoil here.
couple infos there: The planning of Iron Squid started in June, and Iron Squid has a 6 figure budget. Moreover, they purposedly "ignored" a few good players in selecting the invitations because their style is "predictable", and they want to have interesting and cool matches.
Haha, I love the title-of-Iron-Squid part. It's SC2 gone Mortal Kombat!
Anyways, this should definitely be added to the calender asap. Gj to TL for adding it to the big tournament tracker.