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So I've been thinking about this for a little while. In Starcraft 2, two different team-league formats have been dominating the scene. One being the set match format, where the matches are pre-set before the games. In 2012 we see this format used in NASTL, and I think it is gonna be used in the new season of EG Masters Cup Series League.
In the second format, used in IPLTAC2 and GSTL among others, the team that loses the first game, choose which player to send out against the winner of the previous game, opening the possibility of a player all-killing the other team, one example being the former FXO player qxc's all-kill of Incredible Miracle.
Bo7 and bo9 is most common in the second format, while the set match format usually have 4 bo3s with a bo3 ace-match if the results are 2-2 after 4 sets.
Which format do you, TL, prefer? I think I prefer the format GSL and IPL use, as I find it makes for better storylines. Also, I think it's quite exciting to see which player gets chosen to play the winner of the previous match. On the other hand, the EGMCSL and NASTL format probably reward the better team, as they can't just have one great player to win the match.
Poll: Which team-league format do you prefer?Format of GSTL and IPLTAC2 (700) 77% Format of NASTL and EGMCSL7 (176) 19% Other (write down below) (35) 4% 911 total votes Your vote: Which team-league format do you prefer? (Vote): Format of GSTL and IPLTAC2 (Vote): Format of NASTL and EGMCSL7 (Vote): Other (write down below)
Edit: I quickly went over the first 6 pages of comments and I counted 42 comments in favor of winners league format and 32 in favor of Proleague format or NASTL.
So while only 20% in the poll votes for the NASTL format, 44% of the commenters find this to be the best. Oh and I know the Proleague system isn't exactly the same as the NASTL or EGMCSL one, but I think the people who says Proleague has voted for the 2nd option anyway, as there are not that many votes in the "other" option.
Why this is one can only speculate. Perhaps the supporters of the Proleague format have been around for longer, so they are more inclined to put their individual opinions in the comment section and not just vote in the poll. Or it could be that supporters of the losing format (in terms of the poll) feel like they need to voice their opinion in the comment section to make it clear that the poll is not correct in their opinion.
Or perhaps they are like Metallica fans who shit all over TBA because it's not "metal" enough for them and the fact that it got so popular no longer made them fringe elements or in the minority if you will
Anyways, just a fun little observation, not intended to be read into very thoroughly.
Oh and that last possibility was a joke, just to make it clear..
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I actually did not realize there were team leagues other than GSTL.
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Good poll to bring up. I think at the current state of things, the all-kill format is better. But seeing MvP vs IM or something I think a NASTL/BW format is better. Basically, you shouldn't be able to win team leagues just because one player is baller. This also makes a lot more sense to have a strong team and not just strong individuals.
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I like both, variety is good.
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All-kill format for me. I would love to see a reverse all-kill sometime.
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i prefer the current proleague format focuses on having a balanced team rather than one player who just rolls face
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Proleague format all the way!
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I enjoy both more than I do individual leagues but between the two formats I definitely like the set match format better because it allows the players to prepare rather than just be sent in to snipe someone. I think it provides better games however it does drain some story by not allowing all-kills.
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i like all-kills. its exciting.
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All Kill format > a few BO3 series with an ace match > a few BO1 matches with an ace match.
Having said that though the All-Kill format is just a lot better, the other ones feel more like a 1v1 that you happen to play in a team then a genuine team league.
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good idea for a poll but actually horrible poll since egmcsl7 is a different format than NASTL nastl is Bo1 what makes the format awful but egmcsl is bo3 as far as i know and this format is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better
i don't like the ipl tac format too much eventhough it is very exciting to watch i think that it is not as good of a measure of the skill of one team because if one team has one or two good players they win a lot vs teams with a lot of good but not super-very good players...
i hope that some day we will settle down on the nastl format with bo3 instead of bo1
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GSTL format, I love one player beasting his way through the other team.
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On February 18 2012 06:09 sVnteen wrote: good idea for a poll but actually horrible poll since egmcsl7 is a different format than NASTL nastl is Bo1 what makes the format awful but egmcsl is bo3 as far as i know and this format is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better
i hope that some day we will settle down on the nastl format with bo3 instead of bo1
I see your point but the concept of NASTL and EGMCSL is basicly the same. If I was to divide those into two different poll-options it would muddle up the poll somewhat.
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Winners league style for special events, normal proleague for consistent events.
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I like the all-kill format better by far. The proleague format is just like, lets play a bunch of 1v1s and see which team wins the most. It's not much different than cheering for your favorite team in an individual tournament.
The all-kill format has the added depth of who you send out next, snipers, closers and most importantly the marathon achievement that is an all-kill. Would MMA or DRG have become the stars that they are now if they only won 1 game for their team every match. No, it was the recognition they got from consistent 3,4,all-kills in the GSTL that got them invited to foreign tournaments and gave them the confidence to break into code A and code S.
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All kill formats are the best. When I watch EG play in a team league, I don't want to see IdrA play his one match. I want to see him win them all!!!
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I feel if you want to see the best TEAM you have to choose ProLeague Format.
Winners League is fun to watch but more times than not just shows how good the top players are in comparison to everyone else. Team MvP would have gotten crushed in ProLeague format imo because DRG could only win 1 or 2 games depending on ace match or not.
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I really like all kill, provides for epic comebacks, much much MUCH more exciting format, for example the AK format provided the AWESOME TL vs. Prime series.
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I'm perfectly happy with either one but I prefer the all-kill format. It's fun to watch a player go on a tear and see how many guys on the other team he can take down before he's stopped (if he's stopped at all).
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