The Code A qualifiers for 2012 GSL Season 2 are soon upon us (10-11 March) and let us cheer for the brave foreigners who are attempting to qualify for the hardest and most prestigious StarCraft 2 tournament. Though they are outnumbered by the Korean menace, one cannot deny the size of their hearts and spirits. They are the underdogs, yes. But for the first time a foreigner may make it through the Code A qualifiers. Miracles can happen. Dreams can come true.
Artosis hasn't tried for a few seasons, and now being a father, he has less time to practice then ever and thus I must assume that he will not be trying to qualify.
The Great White Hope, the Gorilla Terran, Jinro has come incredibly close in his last two attempts to make it to Code A. Although he took a two week break from StarCraft after Assembly, just before that Jinro had been looking better than ever on his stream, made it to the Ro4 of EWM and you gotta believe that it may be time for the second coming of the Gorilla Terran.
Having recently returned to Korea, HayprO will attempt to improve on his 0-4 GSL record by making it into Code A for a better showing. HayprO has many people doubtful of his skill, but history has shown us that when HayprO is on his A-Game, he's REALLY on his A-Game. Defeating NesTea and nearly Mvp at MLG Providence, these flashes of brilliance have given HayprO's fans hope. But which HayprO will turn up to the qualifiers? The mediocre fan favourite or the GSL champion destroyer?
SaSe has been seeded into Code A 3 times previously, and gone out in the first round all 3 times. This will be his first time actually attempting to go through the qualifiers. SaSe would definitely be one of the favourites to make it of all the foreigners trying. He's taken down players such as Bomber, and there very well could be a rematch between those two. He got to the finals of an ESV weekly...can he make it to Code A? WinDy
Also known as MajOr, AngelGirl, Terran and...okay, I'll stop myself there. Having recently left Check-Six, WinDy will finally be trying the Code A qualifiers. WinDy is quite the enigma. We don't really know how good he's gotten from the Korean training he has received. But his work ethic cannot be denied, as we know he plays an insane amount of games. One to keep an eye on.
EDIT: Khaldor says his ID is MajOr again. Well...okay!
Oh god, I'll cut the news article style of typing for a second and just say dear god, my heart aches for this guy. He has lost his team, and had periods where he went several months without practice and he is STILL fighting it out. cArn has a never give up attitude and I desperately want his determination to finally pay off. He said on Twitter that he's been getting back into shape, and the amount of games he's been playing recently on his ladder account agrees with that. cArn making it through would be a true Cindarella story. By the way, read his blogs, they're fucking awesome.
desRow is a controversial figure. But whether you love him or you hate him, he's in Korea trying to be the best. He has an account in KR GM, though Ls said that desRow didn't actually get that account to GM. I really have no idea how good desRow is. He lost in the first round last time but you gotta believe that his time in Korea would definitely have improved his skills by now. Don't count him out.
Having recently arrived in Korea, TriMaster is living with the MvP team. Though his Korean training (Hyperbolic Time Chamber style) most certainly has not kicked in yet, TriMaster is the king of the upset, taking out Jinro, IdrA and more at MLG. Has he improved since then? Nobody knows, but we're sure as hell gonna find out.
MaruPrime eliminated MorroW from Code A last season in what was at the time, an upset. But MorroW has definitely improved from his stay in Korea. One question that must be asked is can he play TvZ in the qualifiers? I know he is allowed to in the GSL itself, but can he for the qualifiers? If so, he has a very good shot at qualifying, if not...hitting a Zerg could be the death of him.
Having done fairly well in events such as the ESV weekly, Naama, after a long period of silence, may make a huge splash by qualifying for Code A. With the new eSahara-oGs agreement, Naama is well set for a future in Korea, particularly if he succeeds here.
A lesser known player, DeathAngel is in Korea with his teammate Naama and he was supposedly doing well in the in-house ranking matches of the ProS house. DeathAngel hasn't done anything particularly notable, but qualifying for Code A would certainly change that.
ToD, a WarCraft III Legend who made everybody freak out when he took out Alicia at an MLG one time, is trying to qualify for Code A for the 3rd time. He had a disappointing run in the last two qualifiers, but he was taken out by the player who went on to qualify, so it may be a simple case of bad luck for ToD. You know what they say, third time is the charm.
However, it should be noted that he's currently in Europe and as of right now I'm not sure if he will be back in time.
Although he's taken more of a managerial role than that of a player, SLoG apparently still practices, and having made it to the Ro4 of the qualifiers before and training with the FXO team, definitely isn't someone you should say doesn't have a chance.
After a nailbitingly close loss to Killer in Code A last season that came down to a pylon, XiGua, the best Chinese player, will seek redemption by qualifying for Code A.
MacSed had a disappointing showing against Keen, but he can prove that his near defeat of Mvp at WCG was no fluke, and he is a top level player who is here to stay by qualifying for Code A.
Poll: Which foreigner has the best chance of making it to Code A?
HuK (298)
32%
Jinro (126)
14%
SaSe (121)
13%
MorroW (91)
10%
Naama (84)
9%
ToD (59)
6%
HayprO (31)
3%
WinDy (30)
3%
Other (28)
3%
TriMaster (18)
2%
desRow (16)
2%
cArn (15)
2%
917 total votes
Your vote: Which foreigner has the best chance of making it to Code A?
Hope haypro and jinro gets to code a :D LIQUID HWAITING :D. Also, think oyu messed up the race symbol of idra (you pivked the BW one where he was terran)
Well if there are as few people in the qualifiers as they were last time we actually got a decent shot given how many foreigners are attending of atleast one of them making it through.
I think nani is doing the smart thing here and waiting for his return to the gsl, his probe rush was a bigger incident in korea than what happened with coca and byun and just look how long it was until coca was allowed to even return to the slayers house. I can't see nani trying before season 3 of gsl this year, maybe even season 4.
nice writeup, I don't agree with a lot of it but you did good research and at least know which foreigners are in Korea (which is very difficult to keep track of for me).
I feel the ones who have a chance to qualify is Jinro, Sase, Major, Morrow, Huk and Tod as the darkhorse. Jinro has been really close before so I feel this might be his time. Sase can beat most people, it's all about if he can maintain his consistency throughout the qualifier. If his opponent doesn't know his style, I think Major have a chance since it can be very punishing. Morrow have really improved and can certainly take games off most players though his ZvT is a bit suspect (moreso than his TvZ imo). We all know what Huk is capable off and I feel he's got the biggest chance to qualify. Tod is very up and down but if he gets good opponents I can see him make a good run despite his earlier tries.
On March 07 2012 01:36 Khaldor wrote: MajOr is a lot better than most people here seem to realize. Definitely one of the strongest foreigners in Korea right now
On March 07 2012 01:36 Khaldor wrote: MajOr is a lot better than most people here seem to realize. Definitely one of the strongest foreigners in Korea right now
Lets hope he can show his skill in SC2, in BW he coulda been something great if he went to korea imo
On March 07 2012 01:37 ThatGuy89 wrote: wow im sorry, but people cannot be seriously voting jinro over sase, tod, morrow, trimaster, naama and even haypro?
i know hes a fan favourite but its who has the best chance, not who you want to
HuK probably has best chance, but Morrow and sase could get through too
Eh you can't be serious if you take trimaster, naama or even haypro over jinro. Tod have not done anything either since forever. You are the one that need a reality check.
On March 07 2012 01:37 ThatGuy89 wrote: wow im sorry, but people cannot be seriously voting jinro over sase, tod, morrow, trimaster, naama and even haypro?
i know hes a fan favourite but its who has the best chance, not who you want to
HuK probably has best chance, but Morrow and sase could get through too
On March 07 2012 01:37 ThatGuy89 wrote: wow im sorry, but people cannot be seriously voting jinro over sase, tod, morrow, trimaster, naama and even haypro?
i know hes a fan favourite but its who has the best chance, not who you want to
HuK probably has best chance, but Morrow and sase could get through too
Lots of really good foreigners battling it out for code A! I expect Huk to make it back into code A this season, it will also be interesting to see how far Jinro, desRow, SaSe, and ToD make it. I expect HayprO, Naama, TriMaster, cArn, WinDy, Morrow, and Slog to at least make it a round or two but the qualifiers are always full of really strong players trying to prove themselves! GL HF!
This is a bit depressing. Foreigners in Korea time after time get completely demolished(with the execption of HuK and Jinro) and its really sad to see this many foreigners, because I know pretty much all of them will get crushed.
Thanks for including me tempest but unfortunately i've just arrived back in australia, my stay being limited due to visa issues. Keep up the good work though!
On March 07 2012 01:52 Shuffleus wrote: Thanks for including me tempest but unfortunately i've just arrived back in australia, my stay being limited due to visa issues. Keep up the good work though!
Wtf NaNi? Is there going to be some sort of stream or are they playing for a spot in a streamed tournament but can't handle being streamed before as usual?
On March 07 2012 01:59 h34D_hUnT3R wrote: You know that DesRow is no GM in korea, he paid Major to do that for him, thats why he had terran icon on that account...
I mentioned that he wasn't the one who got it to GM.
ToD really has a good shot if he would stop botching up so bad . He is really good and he could completely steam-roll if he stopped "freezing" up. Really i've seen him play incredibly well against Bomber in the Iron Squid and then just lose to Bomber because he botched an 8 gate, and it was a game that he had pretty much won. If he can make his style cleaner, ToD could be a force.
Imo people are really underestimating Naama's chances of advancing. He has the perfect style for these qualifiers; he'll play short games, where the pressure is on his opponent and not him. His micro is better than most of the players he'll face, if not all of them. I'd put his chances above almost anyone but HuK.
Thats a pretty long list, disappointing if not at least a couple of them make it through tbh even if the competition is tough and unforgiving in Code B. Goodluck to everyone.
On March 07 2012 01:52 tapk69 wrote: Are you sure Naniwa is not playing ??
he has been punished , so now he can try again... If he is in Korea why doesnt he participate?
Probably earned code S seed from GOM, or up&down/A.
How can people be saying that? What did Naniwa do recently to win a Code S seed? If anything, Violet and Huk earned Code S seeds because they are the best non-Code S performances of Jan/Feb 2012.
On March 07 2012 02:06 JiYan wrote: im really hoping for morrow. hes probably one of the best players in that list that koreans have probably never heard of
On March 07 2012 01:52 tapk69 wrote: Are you sure Naniwa is not playing ??
he has been punished , so now he can try again... If he is in Korea why doesnt he participate?
Probably earned code S seed from GOM, or up&down/A.
How can people be saying that? What did Naniwa do recently to win a Code S seed? If anything, Violet and Huk earned Code S seeds because they are the best non-Code S performances of Jan/Feb 2012.
NaNiwa lost to the same people HuK lost in the MLG Arena, but defeated Leenock and NesTea.
On March 07 2012 01:52 tapk69 wrote: Are you sure Naniwa is not playing ??
he has been punished , so now he can try again... If he is in Korea why doesnt he participate?
Probably earned code S seed from GOM, or up&down/A.
How can people be saying that? What did Naniwa do recently to win a Code S seed? If anything, Violet and Huk earned Code S seeds because they are the best non-Code S performances of Jan/Feb 2012.
NaNiwa lost to the same people HuK lost in the MLG Arena, but defeated Leenock and NesTea.
Even so, I don't see GOM giving him another Code S seed unless he wins a major tournament running over a bunch of Code S Koreans in the process.
On March 07 2012 01:52 tapk69 wrote: Are you sure Naniwa is not playing ??
he has been punished , so now he can try again... If he is in Korea why doesnt he participate?
Probably earned code S seed from GOM, or up&down/A.
How can people be saying that? What did Naniwa do recently to win a Code S seed? If anything, Violet and Huk earned Code S seeds because they are the best non-Code S performances of Jan/Feb 2012.
NaNiwa lost to the same people HuK lost in the MLG Arena, but defeated Leenock and NesTea.
Even so, I don't see GOM giving him another Code S seed unless he wins a major tournament running over a bunch of Code S Koreans in the process.
Because they usually base their invites on performance.
Oh wait!
Though I think if he gets an invite it will more likely be to code a or up and downs.
I think Naniwa has the right idea, taking this season off. Let him continue to practice in a great atmosphere, do a lot for his team in foreign events, and then power his way through qualifiers in another season. I might not like the guy but his play and determination are incredible, and feel that with a little more time he'll be able to get through into code A without much hassle.
I'd be very surprised if we didn't see each foreigner win a round or 2 in the qualifiers. Sinking feeling they're going to end up clumped together in the tournament though.
On March 07 2012 01:52 tapk69 wrote: Are you sure Naniwa is not playing ??
he has been punished , so now he can try again... If he is in Korea why doesnt he participate?
Probably earned code S seed from GOM, or up&down/A.
How can people be saying that? What did Naniwa do recently to win a Code S seed? If anything, Violet and Huk earned Code S seeds because they are the best non-Code S performances of Jan/Feb 2012.
NaNiwa lost to the same people HuK lost in the MLG Arena, but defeated Leenock and NesTea.
Even so, I don't see GOM giving him another Code S seed unless he wins a major tournament running over a bunch of Code S Koreans in the process.
Well he did beat 2 Code S Koreans at Arena.
Huk beat 1 Code S Korean at Arena.
You said Huk should have earned a Code S seed.
So besides Naniwa's more unfortunate bracket placement at Arena, I'm not sure how your logic flows.
I was wondering to myself the other day who was going to try to qualify this time around, thanks for the list and for making an errant thought a reality.
I am really praying that Jinro will make it this time around.
Actually it seems the reason Naniwa is passing on the Code A qualifiers is because he's focusing everything on MLG Winter Championship and IPL4 since he's going to both. Maybe he thinks GSL would cause him to miss one of those and he thinks he has a better shot at winning money at those events.
Huk has the highest chance, he is just a really good toss. Nothing else much to add
I think Sase at his skill level is definitely able to get to Code A but I just don't know why he doesn't play well enough in GSL
Morrow has been doing really well recently as well, Maru is not an opponent that is considered weak at all. Being knocked out by Maru isn't as shameful as most would think it is. His play is improving really fast, I was surprised to see how good he is now.
Major has the talent to but I feel that he is over-rated a bit, especially when korean terrans are just so much stronger, the zerg and toss at GSL already are used to high level terran.
Same goes with Jinro. In general, I think foreign terrans just don't stand a very high chance going in GSLs. TvT in korea for example, is light year ahead of the other world.
I want to say Sase, but imo his style is too conservative to make it through the qualifiers (which says something about the qualifier format, but whatcha gonna do)-- if you play like he does you need to have hands down the best mechanics and decision making-- Sase is top notch, but I don't think he's a huge step above the competition in that regard.
On March 07 2012 03:16 Mementoss wrote: Why wouldn't Idra go back, is he giving up on GSL due to lack of performance lately? Or is he committing to foreign tournaments for the cash flow?
I'm pretty sure he never intended to compete in the gsl. I remember him saying as much before he went there (qualifying that is, not the invite). It was mostly for good training enviroment he went there. His focus is still foreign events.
On March 07 2012 03:17 ETisME wrote: Huk has the highest chance, he is just a really good toss. Nothing else much to add
I think Sase at his skill level is definitely able to get to Code A but I just don't know why he doesn't play well enough in GSL
Morrow has been doing really well recently as well, Maru is not an opponent that is considered weak at all. Being knocked out by Maru isn't as shameful as most would think it is. His play is improving really fast, I was surprised to see how good he is now.
Major has the talent to but I feel that he is over-rated a bit, especially when korean terrans are just so much stronger, the zerg and toss at GSL already are used to high level terran.
Same goes with Jinro. In general, I think foreign terrans just don't stand a very high chance going in GSLs. TvT in korea for example, is light year ahead of the other world.
Major is a "korean terran". His whole game is korean based. In BW he practiced with koreans, copying everything, developed dem korean Terran mechanics and their work ethic. In sc2 he has better mechanics than most koreans already and after spending alot of months on the KR server with the amount of games he plays, I can promise you that he plays like any other korean Terran.
Statistically, one can excpet that at least one foreigner makes it through (there are not more than 312 people fighting for one of the 24 spots, right?).
Cannot wait really would love lots of them to qualify(know it wont happen) but really HuK and Sase proabbly are our best chances but Sase seems to be so hot and cold?
HuK has the best chances by far. Tied for second I'd give it to MorroW and Sase. I don't think the others have any chance of qualifying if they don't get lucky.
I think Tod and Jinro have the highest chances. People should just forget about Naniwa on qualifying. He's only in Korea to practice and wait for invitations from GSL and other foreign tournies. He knows he's famous and doesn't want to go that path and that there's a bazillion players with equal or better skill waiting in the qualifier.
On March 07 2012 03:46 TheFlock wrote:What about DeMusliM? I thought he said he was going to Korea soon and I thought he was going to compete in Code A.
He's seeded into the up and downs, I think, so he doesn't need to play in the prelims.
On March 07 2012 03:46 TheFlock wrote:What about DeMusliM? I thought he said he was going to Korea soon and I thought he was going to compete in Code A.
He's seeded into the up and downs, I think, so he doesn't need to play in the prelims.
okay cool, thanks! I'm a fan so he's probably the foreigner I'm most looking forward to competing in the GSL. If he's playing his best, up to the Devil Terran standards , i don't see any reason why he can't make it through the up/downs
On March 07 2012 02:23 aintz wrote: idras outtta there. suprise suprise.
(Idra is at IEM)
But WHY? I mean, with Code A's massive prize pool, why would Idra go to IEM instead? I mean, its not like the prize money there is more money to win at IEM. Right?(sarcasm)*
*added to avoid post correcting a clearly sarcastic statment.
On March 07 2012 02:23 aintz wrote: idras outtta there. suprise suprise.
(Idra is at IEM)
But WHY? I mean, with Code A's massive prize pool, why would Idra go to IEM instead? I mean, its not like the prize money there is more money to win at IEM. Right?(sarcasm)*
*added to avoid post correcting a clearly sarcastic statment.
He has no chance, neither Code A qualifier nor IEM. Not a single buck, because he won't get out of his group as usual.
On March 07 2012 02:23 aintz wrote: idras outtta there. suprise suprise.
(Idra is at IEM)
But WHY? I mean, with Code A's massive prize pool, why would Idra go to IEM instead? I mean, its not like the prize money there is more money to win at IEM. Right?(sarcasm)*
*added to avoid post correcting a clearly sarcastic statment.
Because he's not going back to Korea. He's done for now atleast
Thanks for the OP. When I first knew about SaSe I really felt he was going to make himself known as one of the top foreigners and do respectably in Korea. I still think he has a good chance at surprising people in the future.
HuK definitely has the best chance.
Jinro has been a bit under the radar but is still a very good player and I'm hoping he will once again be thought of as one of the top foreigners.
On March 07 2012 02:23 aintz wrote: idras outtta there. suprise suprise.
(Idra is at IEM)
But WHY? I mean, with Code A's massive prize pool, why would Idra go to IEM instead? I mean, its not like the prize money there is more money to win at IEM. Right?(sarcasm)*
*added to avoid post correcting a clearly sarcastic statment.
He has no chance, neither Code A qualifier nor IEM. Not a single buck, because he won't get out of his group as usual.
"Not a single buck"? You know, that even if he would lose all his games at IEM, he still earns 600$ for attending?
If it was a bet I would pick Morrow or Huk, voted morrow. But would probably put my money on Sase if I knew he would play at the level he is capable of.
On March 07 2012 02:23 aintz wrote: idras outtta there. suprise suprise.
(Idra is at IEM)
But WHY? I mean, with Code A's massive prize pool, why would Idra go to IEM instead? I mean, its not like the prize money there is more money to win at IEM. Right?(sarcasm)*
*added to avoid post correcting a clearly sarcastic statment.
He has no chance, neither Code A qualifier nor IEM. Not a single buck, because he won't get out of his group as usual.
Don't know why i'm quoting 7 post trolls but do you realize he won iem like 3 months ago?
I don't really think desrow let someone else get his account into GM. I just think he got into GM because GM qualification was at the time of MLG and this means many top korean players didn't ladder at that time and so weaker players like desrow got into GM. If you check the korean GM league rightnow you will notice that there are a ton of players in there who don't deserve it.
On March 07 2012 05:32 Kaitokid wrote: I don't really think desrow let someone else get his account into GM. I just think he got into GM because GM qualification was at the time of MLG and this means many top korean players didn't ladder at that time and so weaker players like desrow got into GM. If you check the korean GM league rightnow you will notice that there are a ton of players in there who don't deserve it.
Nope, Major did it. He even streamed when he boosted desrows account.
On March 07 2012 05:32 Kaitokid wrote: I don't really think desrow let someone else get his account into GM. I just think he got into GM because GM qualification was at the time of MLG and this means many top korean players didn't ladder at that time and so weaker players like desrow got into GM. If you check the korean GM league rightnow you will notice that there are a ton of players in there who don't deserve it.
LastShadow said on his stream that Desrow asked Major to get GM for him
On March 07 2012 02:23 aintz wrote: idras outtta there. suprise suprise.
(Idra is at IEM)
But WHY? I mean, with Code A's massive prize pool, why would Idra go to IEM instead? I mean, its not like the prize money there is more money to win at IEM. Right?(sarcasm)*
*added to avoid post correcting a clearly sarcastic statment.
He has no chance, neither Code A qualifier nor IEM. Not a single buck, because he won't get out of his group as usual.
Don't know why i'm quoting 7 post trolls but do you realize he won iem like 3 months ago?
Came in what 4th at Providence, and won Asus Rog in like november/december
On March 07 2012 02:23 aintz wrote: idras outtta there. suprise suprise.
(Idra is at IEM)
But WHY? I mean, with Code A's massive prize pool, why would Idra go to IEM instead? I mean, its not like the prize money there is more money to win at IEM. Right?(sarcasm)*
*added to avoid post correcting a clearly sarcastic statment.
He has no chance, neither Code A qualifier nor IEM. Not a single buck, because he won't get out of his group as usual.
Don't know why i'm quoting 7 post trolls but do you realize he won iem like 3 months ago?
Came in what 4th at Providence, and won Asus Rog in like november/december
None of his tournament win had any decent player. He had a bail-out seed at providence like Naniwa though.
On March 07 2012 02:23 aintz wrote: idras outtta there. suprise suprise.
(Idra is at IEM)
But WHY? I mean, with Code A's massive prize pool, why would Idra go to IEM instead? I mean, its not like the prize money there is more money to win at IEM. Right?(sarcasm)*
*added to avoid post correcting a clearly sarcastic statment.
He has no chance, neither Code A qualifier nor IEM. Not a single buck, because he won't get out of his group as usual.
Don't know why i'm quoting 7 post trolls but do you realize he won iem like 3 months ago?
On March 07 2012 02:23 aintz wrote: idras outtta there. suprise suprise.
(Idra is at IEM)
But WHY? I mean, with Code A's massive prize pool, why would Idra go to IEM instead? I mean, its not like the prize money there is more money to win at IEM. Right?(sarcasm)*
*added to avoid post correcting a clearly sarcastic statment.
He has no chance, neither Code A qualifier nor IEM. Not a single buck, because he won't get out of his group as usual.
Don't know why i'm quoting 7 post trolls but do you realize he won iem like 3 months ago?
Came in what 4th at Providence, and won Asus Rog in like november/december
- IEM China was 5 month ago (btw he was 1-2 in groupplay) - Idra was 8th at Providence (winning one series) - His record in 2012, which is more relevant, is terribad - He still will make it out of his IEM group now that DRG is out; but Code A qualifier I think not
Come on JIIIIIIIIINRO! Hoping for a Jinro/HuK showdown in their Code A qualifier just for pure epic. Also that way, whoever wins we get a foreigner in Code A.
On March 07 2012 02:23 aintz wrote: idras outtta there. suprise suprise.
(Idra is at IEM)
But WHY? I mean, with Code A's massive prize pool, why would Idra go to IEM instead? I mean, its not like the prize money there is more money to win at IEM. Right?(sarcasm)*
*added to avoid post correcting a clearly sarcastic statment.
He has no chance, neither Code A qualifier nor IEM. Not a single buck, because he won't get out of his group as usual.
Don't know why i'm quoting 7 post trolls but do you realize he won iem like 3 months ago?
Came in what 4th at Providence, and won Asus Rog in like november/december
None of his tournament win had any decent player. He had a bail-out seed at providence like Naniwa though.
Seed or no seed he faced some great guys at Providence an still game in 8th in a korean heavy tournament. You saying otherwise is just utterly false. So you're saying if you have a seed an do good you actually did pretty bad cause you didn't go through the open bracket but still faced intense competition through group play?
On March 07 2012 02:23 aintz wrote: idras outtta there. suprise suprise.
(Idra is at IEM)
But WHY? I mean, with Code A's massive prize pool, why would Idra go to IEM instead? I mean, its not like the prize money there is more money to win at IEM. Right?(sarcasm)*
*added to avoid post correcting a clearly sarcastic statment.
He has no chance, neither Code A qualifier nor IEM. Not a single buck, because he won't get out of his group as usual.
Don't know why i'm quoting 7 post trolls but do you realize he won iem like 3 months ago?
Came in what 4th at Providence, and won Asus Rog in like november/december
- IEM China was 5 month ago (btw he was 1-2 in groupplay) - Idra was 8th at Providence (winning one series) - His record in 2012, which is more relevant, is terribad - He still will make it out of his IEM group now that DRG is out; but Code A qualifier I think not
On March 07 2012 02:23 aintz wrote: idras outtta there. suprise suprise.
(Idra is at IEM)
But WHY? I mean, with Code A's massive prize pool, why would Idra go to IEM instead? I mean, its not like the prize money there is more money to win at IEM. Right?(sarcasm)*
*added to avoid post correcting a clearly sarcastic statment.
He has no chance, neither Code A qualifier nor IEM. Not a single buck, because he won't get out of his group as usual.
Don't know why i'm quoting 7 post trolls but do you realize he won iem like 3 months ago?
I think Idra will get out of his group but IEM China isn't really comparable to the player pool at this IEM.
On March 07 2012 02:23 aintz wrote: idras outtta there. suprise suprise.
(Idra is at IEM)
But WHY? I mean, with Code A's massive prize pool, why would Idra go to IEM instead? I mean, its not like the prize money there is more money to win at IEM. Right?(sarcasm)*
*added to avoid post correcting a clearly sarcastic statment.
He has no chance, neither Code A qualifier nor IEM. Not a single buck, because he won't get out of his group as usual.
Don't know why i'm quoting 7 post trolls but do you realize he won iem like 3 months ago?
Came in what 4th at Providence, and won Asus Rog in like november/december
None of his tournament win had any decent player. He had a bail-out seed at providence like Naniwa though.
Seed or no seed he faced some great guys at Providence an still game in 8th in a korean heavy tournament. You saying otherwise is just utterly false. So you're saying if you have a seed an do good you actually did pretty bad cause you didn't go through the open bracket but still faced intense competition through group play?
He played three best of 3's at Providence.
0-2 MC 0-2 Leenock 2-1 Puma.
I wouldn't really use that to defend Idra.
It really was all off the back of his seed in this case. I think we all know the Providence format was a joke.
MMA came one place behind in 9th and all he did was get 2-0'd twice.
it was good decision for idra to leave from a progamer perspective. why waste time when clearly being in korea didnt really help him, practising wont change your personality.
On March 07 2012 02:23 aintz wrote: idras outtta there. suprise suprise.
(Idra is at IEM)
But WHY? I mean, with Code A's massive prize pool, why would Idra go to IEM instead? I mean, its not like the prize money there is more money to win at IEM. Right?(sarcasm)*
*added to avoid post correcting a clearly sarcastic statment.
He has no chance, neither Code A qualifier nor IEM. Not a single buck, because he won't get out of his group as usual.
Don't know why i'm quoting 7 post trolls but do you realize he won iem like 3 months ago?
Why are you calling me a troll?
Because you said that Idra did not have a chance of winning, yet he won the last IEM, came in 4th in Providence. But those facts are not important. I mean, who wants to be confused by facts.
Considering that Jinro has made it to the semi-finals twice, I 'd say that a foreigner making it into Code A is as marvelous but heh..maybe I'm just a pessimist. I want the Gorilla Terran to make a comeback.
I think obviously Huk has the better chances as he has shown the best performance lately.
Anyways, but I am rooting for the equal distribution of good players amongst the brackets, so that there won't be people who will advance through a stupideously easy bracket and that there will be no bracket of tears.
On March 07 2012 02:23 aintz wrote: idras outtta there. suprise suprise.
(Idra is at IEM)
But WHY? I mean, with Code A's massive prize pool, why would Idra go to IEM instead? I mean, its not like the prize money there is more money to win at IEM. Right?(sarcasm)*
*added to avoid post correcting a clearly sarcastic statment.
He has no chance, neither Code A qualifier nor IEM. Not a single buck, because he won't get out of his group as usual.
Don't know why i'm quoting 7 post trolls but do you realize he won iem like 3 months ago?
Why are you calling me a troll?
Because you said that Idra did not have a chance of winning, yet he won the last IEM, came in 4th in Providence. But those facts are not important. I mean, who wants to be confused by facts.
These facts do confuse me. Since the last IEM was in Sao Paulo. So maybe you meant the one before that in Kiev? (IdrA actually won 4 IEMs ago)
Jinro was interviewed at his last major event (assembly?) and said he'd still be in Sweden by the time the qualifiers came around... Is he really confirmed to be playing?
On March 07 2012 08:04 kuroshiro wrote: Jinro was interviewed at his last major event (assembly?) and said he'd still be in Sweden by the time the qualifiers came around... Is he really confirmed to be playing?
Jonathan Walsh @LiquidJinro Reply Retweet Favorite · Open Bye bye Sweden~ Leaving flying tomorrow morning.
Jonathan Walsh @LiquidJinro Reply Retweet Favorite · Open Btw for the people wondering WHY I didnt play for 2 weeks - I was in Sweden, and didnt have a computer to play it, or any other game, on!
On March 07 2012 08:04 kuroshiro wrote: Jinro was interviewed at his last major event (assembly?) and said he'd still be in Sweden by the time the qualifiers came around... Is he really confirmed to be playing?
Jonathan Walsh @LiquidJinro Reply Retweet Favorite · Open Btw for the people wondering WHY I didnt play for 2 weeks - I was in Sweden, and didnt have a computer to play it, or any other game, on!
Most likely back, first tweet was 3 days ago
i actually think this is the reason why he will make it. 2 weeks to get the mind off things will do wonders for anybody.
On March 07 2012 02:23 aintz wrote: idras outtta there. suprise suprise.
(Idra is at IEM)
But WHY? I mean, with Code A's massive prize pool, why would Idra go to IEM instead? I mean, its not like the prize money there is more money to win at IEM. Right?(sarcasm)*
*added to avoid post correcting a clearly sarcastic statment.
He has no chance, neither Code A qualifier nor IEM. Not a single buck, because he won't get out of his group as usual.
Don't know why i'm quoting 7 post trolls but do you realize he won iem like 3 months ago?
Why are you calling me a troll?
Because you said that Idra did not have a chance of winning, yet he won the last IEM, came in 4th in Providence. But those facts are not important. I mean, who wants to be confused by facts.
These facts do confuse me. Since the last IEM was in Sao Paulo. So maybe you meant the one before that in Kiev? (IdrA actually won 4 IEMs ago)
HHHHUUUUKKKKK, and I really hope jinro makes it back in, it will be absolutely heart breaking if he doesn't. He has been trying so hard but has shown no results, really bums me out.
... HuK should make the cut easy. Altho its sad that Ls wont try... He came SO close last time. For those that dont know: In the last qualifier he was in his last game, if he won he'd get Code A. Aparantly he was 40 supply ahead, the win secured. Then he miss'ed a barracks positioning and lost the game to a run-by. Q_Q
On March 07 2012 17:59 Rossen wrote: ... HuK should make the cut easy. Altho its sad that Ls wont try... He came SO close last time. For those that dont know: In the last qualifier he was in his last game, if he won he'd get Code A. Aparantly he was 40 supply ahead, the win secured. Then he miss'ed a barracks positioning and lost the game to a run-by. Q_Q
Ls told me that if he won that game he'd be in the semis, dood.
2012 GSL Season 2 is just around the corner! Season 2 will kick off with Up&Down matches on March 12th 6:10PM(KST).
Players: Group A: BBoongBBoong.Prime, ST_Squirtle, coL.Heart, ZeNEX_Avenge, MVP_Keen, SlayerS_YugiOh Group B: FXO_Leenock, SlayerS_GanZI, ST_Ace, MVP_Sniper, oGsInCa, Gamania.Sen* Group C: BumbleBee.Prime, EG.JYP, Maru.Prime, MVP_sC, oGsTheStC, SlayerS_Alicia Group D: coL. Killer, ST_Virus, oGsFin, FXO_Lucky, SlayerS_Brown, EG.Huk** Group E: Creator.Prime, oGsSuperNova, IM_Happy, ST_July, SlayerSBoxeR, 2nd seed spot***
**EG.Huk was seeded."
Wait HuK gets knocked out in the Ro48 and he gets put right back into Code A? I'm assuming that even if he 0-4s his group he's still in Code A? What the hell?
2012 GSL Season 2 is just around the corner! Season 2 will kick off with Up&Down matches on March 12th 6:10PM(KST).
Players: Group A: BBoongBBoong.Prime, ST_Squirtle, coL.Heart, ZeNEX_Avenge, MVP_Keen, SlayerS_YugiOh Group B: FXO_Leenock, SlayerS_GanZI, ST_Ace, MVP_Sniper, oGsInCa, Gamania.Sen* Group C: BumbleBee.Prime, EG.JYP, Maru.Prime, MVP_sC, oGsTheStC, SlayerS_Alicia Group D: coL. Killer, ST_Virus, oGsFin, FXO_Lucky, SlayerS_Brown, EG.Huk** Group E: Creator.Prime, oGsSuperNova, IM_Happy, ST_July, SlayerSBoxeR, 2nd seed spot***
**EG.Huk was seeded."
Wait HuK gets knocked out in the Ro48 and he gets put right back into Code A? I'm assuming that even if he 0-4s his group he's still in Code A? What the hell?
Probably because GOM's foreign viewership will drop a lot if there are exactly 0 foreigners playing in it.
2012 GSL Season 2 is just around the corner! Season 2 will kick off with Up&Down matches on March 12th 6:10PM(KST).
Players: Group A: BBoongBBoong.Prime, ST_Squirtle, coL.Heart, ZeNEX_Avenge, MVP_Keen, SlayerS_YugiOh Group B: FXO_Leenock, SlayerS_GanZI, ST_Ace, MVP_Sniper, oGsInCa, Gamania.Sen* Group C: BumbleBee.Prime, EG.JYP, Maru.Prime, MVP_sC, oGsTheStC, SlayerS_Alicia Group D: coL. Killer, ST_Virus, oGsFin, FXO_Lucky, SlayerS_Brown, EG.Huk** Group E: Creator.Prime, oGsSuperNova, IM_Happy, ST_July, SlayerSBoxeR, 2nd seed spot***
**EG.Huk was seeded."
Wait HuK gets knocked out in the Ro48 and he gets put right back into Code A? I'm assuming that even if he 0-4s his group he's still in Code A? What the hell?
Probably because GOM's foreign viewership will drop a lot if there are exactly 0 foreigners playing in it.
Its definitely not that HuK has been a mainstay code S protoss or anything... Sure viewership played a role but don't discredit huk
All these intervention seeding and invites is why ESPORTS wont be taken serious like classic sports. You don't see sports teams get seeded in playoffs for popularity... ESPORTS so far is more personality entertainment than anything, the more weird odd or outlandish personality you have get the most viewers... Dragon... Destiny... Incontrol....
Ive seen naama beat so many code a/s players in his stream that I believe he is fit for gsl. Hes multitasking is great and his marine split is one of the best in the world. If you've only seen him do scv trains at tournaments then please don't reply "wtf you're such an idiot" etc. Besides he is very entertaining player. I think gsl would be richer with naama in it .
On March 08 2012 06:45 Jusba wrote: Ive seen naama beat so many code a/s players in his stream that I believe he is fit for gsl. Hes multitasking is great and his marine split is one of the best in the world. If you've only seen him do scv trains at tournaments then please don't reply "wtf you're such an idiot" etc. Besides he is very entertaining player. I think gsl would be richer with naama in it .
I really hope to se Naama in there some day but I really wouldn't use ladder games as evidence of how skilled someone is
His scv trains are brilliant. They suddenly allow your army to be stronger then expected and alot of timings from both zerg/protoss and terran are suddenly completely thrown off. Against immortal base builds I just grab 30 scv's and go fucking kill them, has never failed, once. It's great ^^
2012 GSL Season 2 is just around the corner! Season 2 will kick off with Up&Down matches on March 12th 6:10PM(KST).
Players: Group A: BBoongBBoong.Prime, ST_Squirtle, coL.Heart, ZeNEX_Avenge, MVP_Keen, SlayerS_YugiOh Group B: FXO_Leenock, SlayerS_GanZI, ST_Ace, MVP_Sniper, oGsInCa, Gamania.Sen* Group C: BumbleBee.Prime, EG.JYP, Maru.Prime, MVP_sC, oGsTheStC, SlayerS_Alicia Group D: coL. Killer, ST_Virus, oGsFin, FXO_Lucky, SlayerS_Brown, EG.Huk** Group E: Creator.Prime, oGsSuperNova, IM_Happy, ST_July, SlayerSBoxeR, 2nd seed spot***
**EG.Huk was seeded."
Sen has forfeited :/
On March 08 2012 06:39 zimz wrote: All these intervention seeding and invites is why ESPORTS wont be taken serious like classic sports. You don't see sports teams get seeded in playoffs for popularity... ESPORTS so far is more personality entertainment than anything, the more weird odd or outlandish personality you have get the most viewers... Dragon... Destiny... Incontrol....
tbh, most casuals out there don't give a shit. they probably enjoy personalities more, because it's easier to relate to then starcraft.
On March 07 2012 02:23 aintz wrote: idras outtta there. suprise suprise.
(Idra is at IEM)
But WHY? I mean, with Code A's massive prize pool, why would Idra go to IEM instead? I mean, its not like the prize money there is more money to win at IEM. Right?(sarcasm)*
*added to avoid post correcting a clearly sarcastic statment.
He has no chance, neither Code A qualifier nor IEM. Not a single buck, because he won't get out of his group as usual.
Don't know why i'm quoting 7 post trolls but do you realize he won iem like 3 months ago?
Why are you calling me a troll?
Because you said that Idra did not have a chance of winning, yet he won the last IEM, came in 4th in Providence. But those facts are not important. I mean, who wants to be confused by facts.
These facts do confuse me. Since the last IEM was in Sao Paulo. So maybe you meant the one before that in Kiev? (IdrA actually won 4 IEMs ago)
He placed 4th in MLG Orlando when he beat Boxer, HongUn and Bomber. In Providence he placed 8th beating Puma and losing to MC and Leenock.
When exactly did winnig 1(against a Code B Terran) out of 3 matches became considered a huge accomplishment? Idra is nowhere near Code A or S level, which he has proofen over and over again over the past couple weeks.
On March 08 2012 06:39 zimz wrote: All these intervention seeding and invites is why ESPORTS wont be taken serious like classic sports. You don't see sports teams get seeded in playoffs for popularity... ESPORTS so far is more personality entertainment than anything, the more weird odd or outlandish personality you have get the most viewers... Dragon... Destiny... Incontrol....
That's not entirely true. In Tennis there is a wildcard system too, where players might be seeded in the main tournament or the qualifiers regardless of performance. It is actually used the same way, by giving a place in the tournament to players that will attract spectators.
On March 08 2012 06:58 Mohdoo wrote: Give someone else a try, not HuK. Someone who just got knocked out shouldn't be thrown back in. Very disappointing.
I hope no one is faulting HuK though. I think iNcontrol put it best, that if you are given an offer of course you are going to accept it because your career is important, not your "code of honor" (though some have different standards, you can't blame anyone).
Lawl, HuK finished 3rd at MLG. If there was still the MLG-GSL exchange program, he would've earned his spot. Maybe they gave it to him because of that, although it wasn't official.
2012 GSL Season 2 is just around the corner! Season 2 will kick off with Up&Down matches on March 12th 6:10PM(KST).
Players: Group A: BBoongBBoong.Prime, ST_Squirtle, coL.Heart, ZeNEX_Avenge, MVP_Keen, SlayerS_YugiOh Group B: FXO_Leenock, SlayerS_GanZI, ST_Ace, MVP_Sniper, oGsInCa, Gamania.Sen* Group C: BumbleBee.Prime, EG.JYP, Maru.Prime, MVP_sC, oGsTheStC, SlayerS_Alicia Group D: coL. Killer, ST_Virus, oGsFin, FXO_Lucky, SlayerS_Brown, EG.Huk** Group E: Creator.Prime, oGsSuperNova, IM_Happy, ST_July, SlayerSBoxeR, 2nd seed spot***
**EG.Huk was seeded."
Wait HuK gets knocked out in the Ro48 and he gets put right back into Code A? I'm assuming that even if he 0-4s his group he's still in Code A? What the hell?
Probably because GOM's foreign viewership will drop a lot if there are exactly 0 foreigners playing in it.
Its definitely not that HuK has been a mainstay code S protoss or anything... Sure viewership played a role but don't discredit huk
Huk is good and that's why they can do it without huge backlash. Viewership is why they did it at all though.
2012 GSL Season 2 is just around the corner! Season 2 will kick off with Up&Down matches on March 12th 6:10PM(KST).
Players: Group A: BBoongBBoong.Prime, ST_Squirtle, coL.Heart, ZeNEX_Avenge, MVP_Keen, SlayerS_YugiOh Group B: FXO_Leenock, SlayerS_GanZI, ST_Ace, MVP_Sniper, oGsInCa, Gamania.Sen* Group C: BumbleBee.Prime, EG.JYP, Maru.Prime, MVP_sC, oGsTheStC, SlayerS_Alicia Group D: coL. Killer, ST_Virus, oGsFin, FXO_Lucky, SlayerS_Brown, EG.Huk** Group E: Creator.Prime, oGsSuperNova, IM_Happy, ST_July, SlayerSBoxeR, 2nd seed spot***
**EG.Huk was seeded."
Wait HuK gets knocked out in the Ro48 and he gets put right back into Code A? I'm assuming that even if he 0-4s his group he's still in Code A? What the hell?
It's not that outrageous. Last year anyone who was the highest placing non-Code S player in the top 3 at MLGs would get an automatic Code S seed. Huk did get 3rd at the Arena, an MLG event, and the finalists were both Code S players already (MKP and DRG). Besides, it's not a Code S spot, but simply an Up and Down seed.
This is slightly off topic, but I'm just curious about LastShadow. Assuming this is the same guy from bw, I don't get how he's all popular and accepted given how much he was shunned due to his hacking (and I'm not sure if I remember this one correctly, but maybe some bm as well?). It just seems odd to see so many reversed attitudes towards him.
On March 08 2012 16:40 Suc wrote: This is slightly off topic, but I'm just curious about LastShadow. Assuming this is the same guy from bw, I don't get how he's all popular and accepted given how much he was shunned due to his hacking (and I'm not sure if I remember this one correctly, but maybe some bm as well?). It just seems odd to see so many reversed attitudes towards him.
2012 GSL Season 2 is just around the corner! Season 2 will kick off with Up&Down matches on March 12th 6:10PM(KST).
Players: Group A: BBoongBBoong.Prime, ST_Squirtle, coL.Heart, ZeNEX_Avenge, MVP_Keen, SlayerS_YugiOh Group B: FXO_Leenock, SlayerS_GanZI, ST_Ace, MVP_Sniper, oGsInCa, Gamania.Sen* Group C: BumbleBee.Prime, EG.JYP, Maru.Prime, MVP_sC, oGsTheStC, SlayerS_Alicia Group D: coL. Killer, ST_Virus, oGsFin, FXO_Lucky, SlayerS_Brown, EG.Huk** Group E: Creator.Prime, oGsSuperNova, IM_Happy, ST_July, SlayerSBoxeR, 2nd seed spot***
**EG.Huk was seeded."
Wait HuK gets knocked out in the Ro48 and he gets put right back into Code A? I'm assuming that even if he 0-4s his group he's still in Code A? What the hell?
It's not that outrageous. Last year anyone who was the highest placing non-Code S player in the top 3 at MLGs would get an automatic Code S seed. Huk did get 3rd at the Arena, an MLG event, and the finalists were both Code S players already (MKP and DRG). Besides, it's not a Code S spot, but simply an Up and Down seed.
Yes, Huk did get 3rd at the Winter Arena, but look who he won. A buch of low tier foreigners and one korean toss. Considering what kind of match-up PvP is, I say that he was practically given the 3rd place for free. The groups/brackets favored him ridiculously. Huk was bought in to gsl by eg which is a shame, since there would be so many better foreigners than him.
On March 10 2012 17:48 naux wrote: naniwa got a code s he told my friend and my friend told me
Nani, you seem to have a leak. This can't be healthy If true, that's great, I believe you truly have the potential for a deep run, I wich you the best of luck!
Looks like foreigners came up empty in day one with XiGua, MacSed, Slog, ToD, Trimaster, cArn, Windy, and desRow going down today. Hoping to see some good results from foreigners tomorrow!
Awesome post. The polling on TL can really be improved. People should be able to select more than one player. Obviously Huk is the favorite, but it doesn't make sense that desrow is ahead of cArn in votes.
On March 08 2012 18:26 Tommylew wrote: so basically Nani is in korea training but only ever playing MLG... he must be so bored!!!
Anyone know the actualy reason he isnt playing GSL qualifiers? Is he going to play in them ever again?
Maybe he was so disappointed by his code A knockouts that he decided not to participate until he felt "ready"? Just speculation on my part.
yea i beat nestea and leenock but i dont feel like i would have a shot in code a!!!
Your record in Korea shows that you don't have a shot in code a :p
His first time in GSL he had just arrived and had barley even played in Korea and because of this he had very little time to adjust against a top notch player like Check. Fast forward he has to face one of the best ZvP players in the world Lucky two times in a row! Furthermore we arrive at Blizzard Cup where we are talking about a tournament with 10 of the best player around the glove who have proven them self as worthy participants, in each game Naniwa demonstrates insane amounts of skill and just barley loses each game in heart breaking losses. (Notably against Leenok he actually attempted to play a non 2 base all in which is almost non existent option to most Protoss) I also seem to recall the few GSTL games he won against Genius and lost against some Terran because he mistimed a flank by a few seconds (He pretty much had the game sealed)
On March 08 2012 18:26 Tommylew wrote: so basically Nani is in korea training but only ever playing MLG... he must be so bored!!!
Anyone know the actualy reason he isnt playing GSL qualifiers? Is he going to play in them ever again?
Maybe he was so disappointed by his code A knockouts that he decided not to participate until he felt "ready"? Just speculation on my part.
yea i beat nestea and leenock but i dont feel like i would have a shot in code a!!!
Your record in Korea shows that you don't have a shot in code a :p
His first time in GSL he had just arrived and had barley even played in Korea and because of this he had very little time to adjust against a top notch player like Check. Fast forward he has to face one of the best ZvP players in the world Lucky two times in a row! Furthermore we arrive at Blizzard Cup where we are talking about a tournament with 10 of the best player around the glove who have proven them self as worthy participants, in each game Naniwa demonstrates insane amounts of skill and just barley loses each game in heart breaking losses. (Notably against Leenok he actually attempted to play a non 2 base all in which is almost non existent option to most Protoss) I also seem to recall the few GSTL games he won against Genius and lost against some Terran because he mistimed a flank by a few seconds (He pretty much had the game sealed)
Check a top notch player? No offense to him or anything but when compared to the rest of the GSL he simply aint/wasn't back then. It doesn't matter how close Naniwa was to said victories, a loss is a loss. Ofc he will face the best of the world. Guess what, that is what the GSL is, the best in the world.
On March 08 2012 18:26 Tommylew wrote: so basically Nani is in korea training but only ever playing MLG... he must be so bored!!!
Anyone know the actualy reason he isnt playing GSL qualifiers? Is he going to play in them ever again?
Maybe he was so disappointed by his code A knockouts that he decided not to participate until he felt "ready"? Just speculation on my part.
yea i beat nestea and leenock but i dont feel like i would have a shot in code a!!!
Your record in Korea shows that you don't have a shot in code a :p
yea cuz it matters where u play right.. so tired of this argument by idiots like you. the only difference is that im nervous when i play in korea which will obviously fade eventually
On March 08 2012 18:26 Tommylew wrote: so basically Nani is in korea training but only ever playing MLG... he must be so bored!!!
Anyone know the actualy reason he isnt playing GSL qualifiers? Is he going to play in them ever again?
Maybe he was so disappointed by his code A knockouts that he decided not to participate until he felt "ready"? Just speculation on my part.
yea i beat nestea and leenock but i dont feel like i would have a shot in code a!!!
Your record in Korea shows that you don't have a shot in code a :p
His first time in GSL he had just arrived and had barley even played in Korea and because of this he had very little time to adjust against a top notch player like Check. Fast forward he has to face one of the best ZvP players in the world Lucky two times in a row! Furthermore we arrive at Blizzard Cup where we are talking about a tournament with 10 of the best player around the glove who have proven them self as worthy participants, in each game Naniwa demonstrates insane amounts of skill and just barley loses each game in heart breaking losses. (Notably against Leenok he actually attempted to play a non 2 base all in which is almost non existent option to most Protoss) I also seem to recall the few GSTL games he won against Genius and lost against some Terran because he mistimed a flank by a few seconds (He pretty much had the game sealed)
Check a top notch player? No offense to him or anything but when compared to the rest of the GSL he simply aint/wasn't back then. It doesn't matter how close he was to said victories, a loss is a loss. Ofc he will face the best of the world. Guess what, that is what the GSL is, the best in the world.
Back then Check was in his prime (No pun intended ;p) and was a formidable opponent, in fact I'm pretty sure Naniwa even said Check was more challenging then a lot of the top Zergs he faces in ladder.
Your point about GSL being the best of the best simply reinforces my stance even further due to the longevity and close of Naniwa's games. Statistics don't speak for the quality of the games by any means, the GSL finals between Leenok and Jiakjio demonstrate this as statistically it would appear that Jiakji dominated, however that was no where near the case considering both players played very well in many close call games.
On March 08 2012 18:26 Tommylew wrote: so basically Nani is in korea training but only ever playing MLG... he must be so bored!!!
Anyone know the actualy reason he isnt playing GSL qualifiers? Is he going to play in them ever again?
Maybe he was so disappointed by his code A knockouts that he decided not to participate until he felt "ready"? Just speculation on my part.
yea i beat nestea and leenock but i dont feel like i would have a shot in code a!!!
Your record in Korea shows that you don't have a shot in code a :p
yea cuz it matters where u play right.. so tired of this argument by idiots like you. the only difference is that im nervous when i play in korea which will obviously fade eventually
I mean he is right, every time you played in GSL you got stomped very hard. It seems the only time you do well is in foreign tournaments. It could be nervousness like you said, or also that foreign tournaments don't have the same type of preparation as GSL, since you're playing a bunch of players in a row rather than preparing for a week for 1 player.
On March 08 2012 18:26 Tommylew wrote: so basically Nani is in korea training but only ever playing MLG... he must be so bored!!!
Anyone know the actualy reason he isnt playing GSL qualifiers? Is he going to play in them ever again?
Maybe he was so disappointed by his code A knockouts that he decided not to participate until he felt "ready"? Just speculation on my part.
yea i beat nestea and leenock but i dont feel like i would have a shot in code a!!!
Your record in Korea shows that you don't have a shot in code a :p
yea cuz it matters where u play right.. so tired of this argument by idiots like you. the only difference is that im nervous when i play in korea which will obviously fade eventually
NaNiwa, he was making a joke. That's why the face was there.
Jinro: Lost to Cella 0-2 in Ro4. HayprO: Lost to FnaticRC.SoN 1-2 in Ro4 Naama: Lost his first match against AnNyeongPrime 0-2 SaSe: Lost R2 against FXOWhale 1-2
DEATHANGEL: HE MADE IT TO THE FINALS WHAAAAT. Yeah, he made the finals before losing 0-2 to FXOTree. Notably he took out Sage. WOW. Very impressive run.
Naniwa was seeded into Code S so he doesn't need to qualify. It said so on GOMTV.net Polt was also seeded along with Naniwa. Huk was seeded into Up/Down so he'll remain in Code A even if he doesn't pass those games.
On March 11 2012 18:52 FidoDido wrote: Naniwa was seeded into Code S so he doesn't need to qualify. It said so on GOMTV.net Polt was also seeded along with Naniwa. Huk was seeded into Up/Down so he'll remain in Code A even if he doesn't pass those games.
Where do you have the info about the Code S seeds from?
On March 08 2012 18:26 Tommylew wrote: so basically Nani is in korea training but only ever playing MLG... he must be so bored!!!
Anyone know the actualy reason he isnt playing GSL qualifiers? Is he going to play in them ever again?
Maybe he was so disappointed by his code A knockouts that he decided not to participate until he felt "ready"? Just speculation on my part.
yea i beat nestea and leenock but i dont feel like i would have a shot in code a!!!
Your record in Korea shows that you don't have a shot in code a :p
yea cuz it matters where u play right.. so tired of this argument by idiots like you. the only difference is that im nervous when i play in korea which will obviously fade eventually
Don't worry man, we'll cheer you on even if you happen to crash and burn a few times from nervousness, just make sure you come back to sweden for some dreamhack events and whatnot so we can cheer you on in person
On March 11 2012 18:39 RPR_Tempest wrote: Report for today:
Jinro: Lost to Cella 0-2 in Ro4. HayprO: Lost to FnaticRC.SoN 1-2 in Ro4 Naama: Lost his first match against AnNyeongPrime 0-2 SaSe: Lost R2 against FXOWhale 1-2
DEATHANGEL: HE MADE IT TO THE FINALS WHAAAAT. Yeah, he made the finals before losing 0-2 to FXOTree. Notably he took out Sage. WOW. Very impressive run.
I'm not notable, ouch that hurt a little.
But yeah Deathangel destroyed me 2-0. First game i forgot to make stim at right time and made a lot of mistakes.
2nd game, I have to frickin clue what I was doing, I made most stupid unit comp I could think of and died easily.
Though this was my first ever lan and I was nervous as hell to face someone whom I know of. plus I had clide sitting behind me which was nerve wrecking as well. Overall I learned a lot and met wonderful people.
On March 11 2012 18:39 RPR_Tempest wrote: Report for today:
Jinro: Lost to Cella 0-2 in Ro4. HayprO: Lost to FnaticRC.SoN 1-2 in Ro4 Naama: Lost his first match against AnNyeongPrime 0-2 SaSe: Lost R2 against FXOWhale 1-2
DEATHANGEL: HE MADE IT TO THE FINALS WHAAAAT. Yeah, he made the finals before losing 0-2 to FXOTree. Notably he took out Sage. WOW. Very impressive run.
I'm not notable, ouch that hurt a little.
But yeah Deathangel destroyed me 2-0. First game i forgot to make stim at right time and made a lot of mistakes.
2nd game, I have to frickin clue what I was doing, I made most stupid unit comp I could think of and died easily.
Though this was my first ever lan and I was nervous as hell to face someone whom I know of. plus I had clide sitting behind me which was nerve wrecking as well. Overall I learned a lot and met wonderful people.
I guess the community does not know you yet. So you're Radrel then? Maybe you should introduce yourself and tell people your story how it says Canada for you, yet still you're in Korea staying at the Prime house and qualifying for Code A. Congratulations on winning your first round, either way.
On March 08 2012 18:26 Tommylew wrote: so basically Nani is in korea training but only ever playing MLG... he must be so bored!!!
Anyone know the actualy reason he isnt playing GSL qualifiers? Is he going to play in them ever again?
Maybe he was so disappointed by his code A knockouts that he decided not to participate until he felt "ready"? Just speculation on my part.
yea i beat nestea and leenock but i dont feel like i would have a shot in code a!!!
Your record in Korea shows that you don't have a shot in code a :p
yea cuz it matters where u play right.. so tired of this argument by idiots like you. the only difference is that im nervous when i play in korea which will obviously fade eventually
Don't worry man, we'll cheer you on even if you happen to crash and burn a few times from nervousness, just make sure you come back to sweden for some dreamhack events and whatnot so we can cheer you on in person
Well, if you get nervous when you play in Korea, that actually means that YES, it matters where you play.
On March 08 2012 18:26 Tommylew wrote: so basically Nani is in korea training but only ever playing MLG... he must be so bored!!!
Anyone know the actualy reason he isnt playing GSL qualifiers? Is he going to play in them ever again?
Maybe he was so disappointed by his code A knockouts that he decided not to participate until he felt "ready"? Just speculation on my part.
yea i beat nestea and leenock but i dont feel like i would have a shot in code a!!!
Your record in Korea shows that you don't have a shot in code a :p
yea cuz it matters where u play right.. so tired of this argument by idiots like you. the only difference is that im nervous when i play in korea which will obviously fade eventually
Don't worry man, we'll cheer you on even if you happen to crash and burn a few times from nervousness, just make sure you come back to sweden for some dreamhack events and whatnot so we can cheer you on in person
Well, if you get nervous when you play in Korea, that actually means that YES, it matters where you play.
e: Messed up the quote, i'm answering to Naniwa.
he meant: to be skillfull you must play well when in korea? ..its like, if a brasilian footballplayer always plays poorly in russia, does that mean he isnt very good? obv not
On March 08 2012 18:26 Tommylew wrote: so basically Nani is in korea training but only ever playing MLG... he must be so bored!!!
Anyone know the actualy reason he isnt playing GSL qualifiers? Is he going to play in them ever again?
Maybe he was so disappointed by his code A knockouts that he decided not to participate until he felt "ready"? Just speculation on my part.
yea i beat nestea and leenock but i dont feel like i would have a shot in code a!!!
Your record in Korea shows that you don't have a shot in code a :p
yea cuz it matters where u play right.. so tired of this argument by idiots like you. the only difference is that im nervous when i play in korea which will obviously fade eventually
Maybe you should take some of that herb that HerO uses now to calm him during games? Don't know what it's called you'd have to ask him.
On March 08 2012 18:26 Tommylew wrote: so basically Nani is in korea training but only ever playing MLG... he must be so bored!!!
Anyone know the actualy reason he isnt playing GSL qualifiers? Is he going to play in them ever again?
Maybe he was so disappointed by his code A knockouts that he decided not to participate until he felt "ready"? Just speculation on my part.
yea i beat nestea and leenock but i dont feel like i would have a shot in code a!!!
Your record in Korea shows that you don't have a shot in code a :p
yea cuz it matters where u play right.. so tired of this argument by idiots like you. the only difference is that im nervous when i play in korea which will obviously fade eventually
Maybe you should take some of that herb that HerO uses now to calm him during games? Don't know what it's called you'd have to ask him.
Oh yea its called Cheongsimhwan 청심환 (korean) / 清心丸 (chinese). Apparently you shouldn't take too many at once though!