The most interesting thing is the "$150 prize pool for every match...on the line". This gives more incentives for players to have a good showing even if they are "knocked out".
The $150 prize pool for every match is a great idea. Very innovative.
But I wonder how it will be divided up. I really hope it's not $100 to the winner, $50 to the loser. I don't want to see someone potentially go 0-8 in group play and collect $400. I think winner take all is best. That gives an appropriate bonus for the winner and I don't think you should pay players just to show up and lose.
Cool feature, think it's a good idea to have some money on the line on each map. But I also think the winner should get all the money so the loosing players wont get 400 quick bucks just to show up.
they should have winner takes 100 dollars and loser gets nothing of course and whoever is top of there groups should get like a extra 500 or something so people try to win and not to get by
On March 29 2012 16:20 NeWeNiyaLord wrote: Cool feature, think it's a good idea to have some money on the line on each map. But I also think the winner should get all the money so the loosing players wont get 400 quick bucks just to show up.
Pretty sure by match they meant the whole Bo3 and not per game.
Anyways, what's with NASL saying there's only $100,000 prizepool? Season 3 was supposed to have $200,000. They announced $400,000 at the start of this league and while S1 and S2 would have $100,000 prize pools, S3 would have $200,000.
I guess NASL had to tap their prizepool to up their production again.
On March 29 2012 16:20 NeWeNiyaLord wrote: Cool feature, think it's a good idea to have some money on the line on each map. But I also think the winner should get all the money so the loosing players wont get 400 quick bucks just to show up.
Pretty sure by match they meant the whole Bo3 and not per game.
Anyways, what's with NASL saying there's only $100,000 prizepool? Season 3 was supposed to have $200,000. They announced $400,000 at the start of this league and while S1 and S2 would have $100,000 prize pools, S3 would have $200,000.
I guess NASL had to tap their prizepool to up their production again.
oh really? 200k would have been the biggest prize pool for any major SC2 tournament haha wow. NASL doesn't have the player calibre for that prize pool though. I'd rather see a Season 3 & 4 with $100k each rather than a season 3 with 200k. But i hope the money's put to good use (and that MKP can somehow destroy the open bracket, grab the final offline spot, and take a good slice of 100k to his own bank)
On March 29 2012 16:59 Resilient wrote: Seems kinda weird to me to have to offer incentives for players to actually show up and play their match
you are misunderstanding. it's not about getting players to show up, it is about keeping the games competitive.
Its probably a little about getting players to show up since near the end they either didnt show up or just played some stupid all-in build to protect there investment.
the german EPS had this for years, but in the end of WC3 the amount of money for each match was decreased. Maybe due to the fact that lots of players always stated something like this: "had no time to train", "didn`t train at all", "I don`t care about this match" etc.
Hopefully the scene has grown and will take this to further motivate themself and maybe it will encourage them to even prepare something special for every match/opponent. Best of Luck with it.
Poll: How would you like to see the $150 per match distributed?
Winner takes it all (148)
84%
$100 for the winner / $50 for the loser (29)
16%
177 total votes
Your vote: How would you like to see the $150 per match distributed?
(Vote): $100 for the winner / $50 for the loser (Vote): Winner takes it all
I don't see the point of doing the $150 per match if the winner gets all of it anyways. Isn't the point of it to basically give consolation to the loser? So you'd just be taking it away from them to begin with therefore nullify the extra (expensive) investment they put in to begin with.
the fact that they even found a way to have a 3rd season bodes well IMO. excited to see a player in the game that needs to take a few risks and will thus mix things up
what happened to "insured and secured by Blizzard" ?
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For the funding that you've received how many seasons is that money going to go towards?
We're already sold on three seasons. The money has been budgeted and secured. There's no like, “well gosh, if season one does really well then season two will be fine.” It's completely secure for three seasons. It's all insured and backed by Blizzard, that kind of stuff. And the idea again is that we laid down the infrastructure, it grows, gets easier as we go, and then if it's a profitable venture we can continue on for four, five, six seasons and beyond.
On March 29 2012 16:29 Zarahtra wrote: Or if 2-1, then 100/50, if 2-0, 150/0.
this is awesome.
I personally am super pumped for NASL season 3! This is there make it or break it season considering they had it set in stone 3 seasons, and this is the third season. 1 and 2 were lacking, the pool play was a fucking bore, nothing important, losing a match or 2 meant nothing, it was all from replays that were at least 1-2 weeks old, players said they would play half of the seasons matches in 1 day, it just wasn't fun. The new commentators, more $$, live or as close to live replays as possible, each match is more important, this should be alot more fun!
Great idea, but I'm really skeptical. This league hasn't been so well. Everything has been great ideas wasted. Like red carpet with barely a live audience.
I stopped watching last season because it just felt so uninteresting.
I hope they can get this really hyped up and going in the mlg/gsl direction, and not wcg direction.
$100 for winner of each match should be enough. Put that $50 from each match for the 1st place and 2nd place finalists. Giving money to someone who loses seems like a waste. I'm kind of mentally fixed on raising the prize pool for the top 8.
I think the loser needs to get some of the money. They are both playing for my entertainment, and both deserve to be compensated, in much the same way professional athletes are. Maybe eventually this needs to fall to the teams, but few teams are paying reasonable salaries right now. I think Total Biscuit has it right with his tournaments, everyone who plays should at least get something, because they should be compensated for their time at the very least.
On March 30 2012 00:16 radiantshadow92 wrote: 2-1 100-50 2-0 150-0
Not good splitting up as it might induce match fixing.
Other thing is that this wont really effect whether player take it real or not as players might make deal behind organizers or teams. "Lose game and you get $150 right away to give me better chance to advance and get bigger money" Even include cut of prize money.
I like $100 per match more. Save some money and use it for next season, or to fly in someone, or add it to the finals prizepool. $150 feels like too much.
On March 30 2012 00:16 radiantshadow92 wrote: 2-1 100-50 2-0 150-0
Not good splitting up as it might induce match fixing.
Other thing is that this wont really effect whether player take it real or not as players might make deal behind organizers or teams. "Lose game and you get $150 right away to give me better chance to advance and get bigger money" Even include cut of prize money.
If this kind of thing were to be going on there would be far bigger issues to deal with that how to divvy up the 150 bucks.
On March 30 2012 00:58 magnaflow wrote: $150 per match, how many matches over the period of 8 weeks? Could that be some of the $100,000??
I believe it's 8 people per division playing 7 matches each, and 5 divisions. So 42,000? I feel like I'm overlooking something really simple because I'm tired, though.
I get bored just thinking about NASL. I really wish they would size down on the number of players in the tournament. Or somehow find a way to make the tournament way shorter, because the gap between it starting and the live event is really large.
On March 30 2012 01:56 iYiYi wrote: I get bored just thinking about NASL. I really wish they would size down on the number of players in the tournament. Or somehow find a way to make the tournament way shorter, because the gap between it starting and the live event is really large.
Oh man, I totally disagree. I really like the large number of players and the length of the season. Makes it seem more like a league instead of a tournament, and thats how it should be when your name is the "North American Star League". I have to say that I'm pretty amped up for this season!
On March 30 2012 00:58 magnaflow wrote: $150 per match, how many matches over the period of 8 weeks? Could that be some of the $100,000??
I believe it's 8 people per division playing 7 matches each, and 5 divisions. So 42,000? I feel like I'm overlooking something really simple because I'm tired, though.
You're mutliplying by the number of people, should be half that number. Two people per match
On March 30 2012 00:16 radiantshadow92 wrote: 2-1 100-50 2-0 150-0
This makes the most sense to me!
Well they should give something to the loser so there is incentive to show up. How many walkovers did they have last season? Seems like a lot. Idk if it will solve walkover problem but should help it at least.
On March 30 2012 00:16 radiantshadow92 wrote: 2-1 100-50 2-0 150-0
This makes the most sense to me!
Well they should give something to the loser so there is incentive to show up. How many walkovers did they have last season? Seems like a lot. Idk if it will solve walkover problem but should help it at least.
I think
2-1 90-60 2-0 120-30
could be an idea among those lines. but probably NASL already have made a decision towards this and won't alter the amount of money made by this thread.