- Bunker building time stays the same
- Rax building time stays the same
- No changes with the other races
I can´t imagine a better patch for terran since beta.
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Sianos
580 Posts
- Bunker building time stays the same - Rax building time stays the same - No changes with the other races I can´t imagine a better patch for terran since beta. | ||
Tuthur
France985 Posts
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Toastie.NL
Netherlands232 Posts
On July 24 2012 19:26 ImNightmare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 24 2012 19:24 Antares_ wrote: No balance changes? I guess that Blizzard think it's ok for Terran to have no late game. Time to switch to Zerg for good then, at least until HotS (or not, because Zerg looks OP in HotS for now) Please do come be zerg, even with the win rates balancing out zerg is still op? lol, I hope you have fun because you are gonna drop to bronze while learning all the cheeses of all 3 race. Good luck! If you don't play greedy as fuck (as in, Hatch Hatch Gas Pool Macro Hatch +1/+1 before teching...) You can hold pretty much every cheese. The most powerful cheeses T/P (Cannon Rush, Proxy Gates, Proxy 11/11 with SCV pull) have can be held with Hatch first, which is silly on its own... But it's time for me to leave, getting frustrated and annoyed. When will patch go live?! I cant find a date. | ||
ImNightmare
1575 Posts
On July 24 2012 19:30 Toastie.NL wrote: Show nested quote + On July 24 2012 19:26 ImNightmare wrote: On July 24 2012 19:24 Antares_ wrote: No balance changes? I guess that Blizzard think it's ok for Terran to have no late game. Time to switch to Zerg for good then, at least until HotS (or not, because Zerg looks OP in HotS for now) Please do come be zerg, even with the win rates balancing out zerg is still op? lol, I hope you have fun because you are gonna drop to bronze while learning all the cheeses of all 3 race. Good luck! If you don't play greedy as fuck (as in, Hatch Hatch Gas Pool Macro Hatch +1/+1 before teching...) You can hold pretty much every cheese. The most powerful cheeses T/P (Cannon Rush, Proxy Gates, Proxy 11/11 with SCV pull) have can be held with Hatch first, which is silly on its own... Don't just theorycraft,DO try. I would like to see you hold a sentry immortal since you are protoss, or a ramp FF. And you seem to think its easy to hold early game cheese which I can guarantee you are greatly mistaken if you don't scout it right. And proxy 11/11 is crazily difficult btw, especially on ladder maps without a supply depot at the bottom. | ||
howLiN
Portugal1676 Posts
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Flummie
Netherlands417 Posts
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Kpaxlol
813 Posts
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n0ise
3452 Posts
On July 24 2012 19:20 partysnatcher wrote: Show nested quote + On July 24 2012 17:08 sc2terran wrote: the proverbial nail in the terran coffin imo. The Terran coffin where they keep winning tournaments and where the distribution is about 33% for each of the three races for the first time in the game's history? That's quite a coffin you've got there. when the barely balanced ratio is maintained by terrans sometimes winning with 11/11 or getting away with 3-4 cc's and upgrades at 6:00 while zergs don't even try scouting, yeah, people unsurprisingly will be upset but you do what you got to do, i guess | ||
Fus
Sweden1112 Posts
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Geneq
Poland165 Posts
On July 24 2012 19:20 Toastie.NL wrote: Show nested quote + On July 24 2012 19:09 garett wrote: On July 24 2012 19:02 Assirra wrote: Blizzard patches when people are finding things OP and imbalanced crowd: "Why u patch Blizzard, let pro's figure it, stop patching!" Blizzard doesn't patch for once when something is found imbalanced. crowd "Why you no patch Blizzard?!" Some people (especially on the internet) will always find reason to whine. Nothing you can do about it. Great patch, hopefully the Custom games will be much easier to navigate. Can't wait to play some great UMS. Biggest problem? Some races used to be very vocal at how terribly imbalanced certain things are. We've got cryDra, one of the worst of them all. Loads of builds (especially Terrans) have been nerfed within weeks after they were discovered, without the other races adapting. Look at the Ghost/Tank in TvZ, it was dealt with by going for T1, Nydus and Drops. Instead, Snipe was nerfed to do lower damage than the normal attack... So I can understand that to Terrans this feels like: "Hmpf, whenever we figure something out, it gets nerfed. Whenever we fail to do anything for months, we need to wait and let the pro's fix it..." + Show Spoiler + Also, I highly dislike how Taeja is an argument for 'balance'. He played 1 TvZ (LosirA was not in form that weekend), 1 TvT and the rest TvPs. That's no showing of how T may or may not be balanced... Sure, they may be some validity in their complains, not denying that. Blizzard has some strange policy regarding balancing (sometimes they do knee-jerk reactions, other times they let players/mapmakers figure stuff out). I was just commenting on the overall negativity of some people. | ||
Warpish
834 Posts
On July 24 2012 19:29 Tuthur wrote: Good patch, glad to see no balances changes, Terran can obviously still win as shown in recent tournaments, it's just not 70% favored for them in TvZ like before which is a good thing. Good to see Blizzard gets it and didn't fall for the balance whine that started Day 1 (which tells a lot about how the players didn't want to adjust to the new metagame like other races ) That must be it. Terrans players just can't seem to adapt. Meanwhile in the EU top 30 we have 13 Zergs, 12 Protoss and 5 Terrans (16,6%). Also note that in the top 25 there are only 2 Terrans, that is 8%. | ||
Toastie.NL
Netherlands232 Posts
On July 24 2012 19:32 ImNightmare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 24 2012 19:30 Toastie.NL wrote: On July 24 2012 19:26 ImNightmare wrote: On July 24 2012 19:24 Antares_ wrote: No balance changes? I guess that Blizzard think it's ok for Terran to have no late game. Time to switch to Zerg for good then, at least until HotS (or not, because Zerg looks OP in HotS for now) Please do come be zerg, even with the win rates balancing out zerg is still op? lol, I hope you have fun because you are gonna drop to bronze while learning all the cheeses of all 3 race. Good luck! If you don't play greedy as fuck (as in, Hatch Hatch Gas Pool Macro Hatch +1/+1 before teching...) You can hold pretty much every cheese. The most powerful cheeses T/P (Cannon Rush, Proxy Gates, Proxy 11/11 with SCV pull) have can be held with Hatch first, which is silly on its own... Don't just theorycraft,DO try. I would like to see you hold a sentry immortal since you are protoss, or a ramp FF. And you seem to think its easy to hold early game cheese which I can guarantee you are greatly mistaken if you don't scout it right. And proxy 11/11 is crazily difficult btw, especially on ladder maps without a supply depot at the bottom. If you scout decently you can hold it, that is what I mean. If you scout properly, everything is holdable with the greediest build you can think of as long as you respond properly. My sig says random btw | ||
ImNightmare
1575 Posts
On July 24 2012 19:38 Warpish wrote: Show nested quote + On July 24 2012 19:29 Tuthur wrote: Good patch, glad to see no balances changes, Terran can obviously still win as shown in recent tournaments, it's just not 70% favored for them in TvZ like before which is a good thing. Good to see Blizzard gets it and didn't fall for the balance whine that started Day 1 (which tells a lot about how the players didn't want to adjust to the new metagame like other races ) That must be it. Terrans players just can't seem to adapt. Meanwhile in the EU top 30 we have 13 Zergs, 12 Protoss and 5 Terrans (16,6%). Also note that in the top 25 there are only 2 Terrans, that is 8%. Sooo..... zerg protoss op? Or terran up? | ||
ImNightmare
1575 Posts
On July 24 2012 19:41 Toastie.NL wrote: Show nested quote + On July 24 2012 19:32 ImNightmare wrote: On July 24 2012 19:30 Toastie.NL wrote: On July 24 2012 19:26 ImNightmare wrote: On July 24 2012 19:24 Antares_ wrote: No balance changes? I guess that Blizzard think it's ok for Terran to have no late game. Time to switch to Zerg for good then, at least until HotS (or not, because Zerg looks OP in HotS for now) Please do come be zerg, even with the win rates balancing out zerg is still op? lol, I hope you have fun because you are gonna drop to bronze while learning all the cheeses of all 3 race. Good luck! If you don't play greedy as fuck (as in, Hatch Hatch Gas Pool Macro Hatch +1/+1 before teching...) You can hold pretty much every cheese. The most powerful cheeses T/P (Cannon Rush, Proxy Gates, Proxy 11/11 with SCV pull) have can be held with Hatch first, which is silly on its own... Don't just theorycraft,DO try. I would like to see you hold a sentry immortal since you are protoss, or a ramp FF. And you seem to think its easy to hold early game cheese which I can guarantee you are greatly mistaken if you don't scout it right. And proxy 11/11 is crazily difficult btw, especially on ladder maps without a supply depot at the bottom. If you scout decently you can hold it, that is what I mean. If you scout properly, everything is holdable with the greediest build you can think of as long as you respond properly. My sig says random btw Yes, but the basis of cheese is to be a surprise tactic. Of course everything is holdable if you can scout it. Even 6pool can be defended if you scout it and that's the only zerg cheese in the early game. Unless we count 7,8,9.10 pool. | ||
Warpish
834 Posts
On July 24 2012 19:41 ImNightmare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 24 2012 19:38 Warpish wrote: On July 24 2012 19:29 Tuthur wrote: Good patch, glad to see no balances changes, Terran can obviously still win as shown in recent tournaments, it's just not 70% favored for them in TvZ like before which is a good thing. Good to see Blizzard gets it and didn't fall for the balance whine that started Day 1 (which tells a lot about how the players didn't want to adjust to the new metagame like other races ) That must be it. Terrans players just can't seem to adapt. Meanwhile in the EU top 30 we have 13 Zergs, 12 Protoss and 5 Terrans (16,6%). Also note that in the top 25 there are only 2 Terrans, that is 8%. Sooo..... zerg protoss op? Or terran up? That must be it. Terrans players just can't seem to adapt. (sarcasm) | ||
Toastie.NL
Netherlands232 Posts
On July 24 2012 19:42 ImNightmare wrote: Show nested quote + On July 24 2012 19:41 Toastie.NL wrote: On July 24 2012 19:32 ImNightmare wrote: On July 24 2012 19:30 Toastie.NL wrote: On July 24 2012 19:26 ImNightmare wrote: On July 24 2012 19:24 Antares_ wrote: No balance changes? I guess that Blizzard think it's ok for Terran to have no late game. Time to switch to Zerg for good then, at least until HotS (or not, because Zerg looks OP in HotS for now) Please do come be zerg, even with the win rates balancing out zerg is still op? lol, I hope you have fun because you are gonna drop to bronze while learning all the cheeses of all 3 race. Good luck! If you don't play greedy as fuck (as in, Hatch Hatch Gas Pool Macro Hatch +1/+1 before teching...) You can hold pretty much every cheese. The most powerful cheeses T/P (Cannon Rush, Proxy Gates, Proxy 11/11 with SCV pull) have can be held with Hatch first, which is silly on its own... Don't just theorycraft,DO try. I would like to see you hold a sentry immortal since you are protoss, or a ramp FF. And you seem to think its easy to hold early game cheese which I can guarantee you are greatly mistaken if you don't scout it right. And proxy 11/11 is crazily difficult btw, especially on ladder maps without a supply depot at the bottom. If you scout decently you can hold it, that is what I mean. If you scout properly, everything is holdable with the greediest build you can think of as long as you respond properly. My sig says random btw Yes, but the basis of cheese is to be a surprise tactic. Of course everything is holdable if you can scout it. Even 6pool can be defended if you scout it and that's the only zerg cheese in the early game. Unless we count 7,8,9.10 pool. Just... nevermind. | ||
virpi
Germany3598 Posts
after the current ladder season sounds very reasonable to me. edit: finally, we get slash commands! <3 | ||
ImNightmare
1575 Posts
On July 24 2012 19:48 virpi wrote: does anyone know, when the patch is going to go live? after the current ladder season sounds very reasonable to me. They normally patch it in after 3 weeks to a month after announcement. Can't wait for that new UI and optimized performance! | ||
Testuser
6469 Posts
Also - for all the people whining, do it somewhere else, it's not becoming of you here. | ||
vgijamven
Sweden95 Posts
A new "Quick Nav" tab has been added to the bottom-left corner of the Battle.net UI. This is a customizable dashboard that allows players to bind up to five Battle.net screens to the F1-F5 keyboard shortcuts for speedier navigation. Where is this going to fit? The map is in the lower left?! And F1 no longer for idle workers (by default, that is) ?? A new in-game pathing display has been added that shows the path a unit will take on the mini-map. Not sure if this is necessary or even useful, but sort of cool nontheless. Amazed to see no comments about these 2 things. | ||
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