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On October 23 2012 03:33 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 03:24 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 03:22 geokilla wrote:On October 23 2012 02:42 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:38 geokilla wrote:On October 23 2012 02:35 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:30 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:23 latan wrote: What I get from all this is that CranK is possibly "one of those people"; a pathological liar that manipulates and pits people against each other just because.
TB and Gemma better think twice to trust him 100%. After all, it was merely his sob story that convinced them to fund axiom. Axiom didn't even exist when Crank left. How could he have lied? Axiom picked him up and rekindled his desire to play. People change their minds - does that make them liars? No...it makes them human. He was lonely and wanted a team again - he realized what he was missing, but he obviously couldn't go back to a bad environment. Maybe you should read what I wrote. There's evidence that he did. While Axiom did come into the picture later, he definately was out for a foreign team at the time of his release. NBA players such as Dwight Howard said they want to play for X team while he was still a Orlando Magic player, and continued to do so until he was finally traded. While it's not good for team chemistry, does that make him a liar because he denied trade rumours and his intentions? Crank specifically stated to his team (Jessica, Boxer and Cella) that he would not be on the lookout for a team and would take a rest. I don't know how your world works, but that's lying. Wel he's a grown man with no job. He can either stream for revenue or he can attempt to get a job. As a SC2 programmer, one does not find a job when you have no experience at that stage of your life. At least here in Canada it's quite hard to find a job with no experience. What are you going to put on your resume? "Played SC2 professionally. Did not complete university." I don't disagree with that, but I neither see what that has to do with him lying or not. As for looking for a team, he was approached to join a team. Again, NBA as an example. Players go around looking for teams that they want to trade to. It doesn't actually happen and some actually change their mind and extend their contract with the current team. No, that happened a long time later. He left specifically stating he wanted to rest (to Cella he wanted to quit altogether), that he maximally wanted to play until the end of THIS year and that he wouldn't go looking for foreign teams. He started streaming on the 25th, announcing he was teamless and wanted to get a foreign team. He was officially released on the 26th. TIG> It's publicly known that you left the team due to your injury. Crank: When I was leaving the team, Jessica told me that she will release an article for me but I thought "me leaving the team isn't worthy of a press conference." But I was told that there is a new player joining us. She told me she will say I left the team due to my neck injury, and she will work her best to stop any weird rumors from spreading around. And now she is saying that I used my neck injury as an excuse to look for a foreign team. I never thought she would do that. Crank claims that Jessica wanted to use that as an excuse to let him go. Jessica's interview on the other hand, says Crank used that as an excuse. Classical case of he said she said here... That's why I want the call recording to be released. Not the transcript.
I think you're missing one important part in Crank's statement. He never disagreed with Jessica on releasing the statement about his neck problems.
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This has been in the makings for a while; a real shame if you ask me the greatest team to grace e-sports.
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On October 23 2012 03:41 Ansinjunger wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 03:24 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 03:22 geokilla wrote:On October 23 2012 02:42 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:38 geokilla wrote:On October 23 2012 02:35 Shival wrote:On October 23 2012 02:30 tMomiji wrote:On October 23 2012 02:23 latan wrote: What I get from all this is that CranK is possibly "one of those people"; a pathological liar that manipulates and pits people against each other just because.
TB and Gemma better think twice to trust him 100%. After all, it was merely his sob story that convinced them to fund axiom. Axiom didn't even exist when Crank left. How could he have lied? Axiom picked him up and rekindled his desire to play. People change their minds - does that make them liars? No...it makes them human. He was lonely and wanted a team again - he realized what he was missing, but he obviously couldn't go back to a bad environment. Maybe you should read what I wrote. There's evidence that he did. While Axiom did come into the picture later, he definately was out for a foreign team at the time of his release. NBA players such as Dwight Howard said they want to play for X team while he was still a Orlando Magic player, and continued to do so until he was finally traded. While it's not good for team chemistry, does that make him a liar because he denied trade rumours and his intentions? Crank specifically stated to his team (Jessica, Boxer and Cella) that he would not be on the lookout for a team and would take a rest. I don't know how your world works, but that's lying. Wel he's a grown man with no job. He can either stream for revenue or he can attempt to get a job. As a SC2 programmer, one does not find a job when you have no experience at that stage of your life. At least here in Canada it's quite hard to find a job with no experience. What are you going to put on your resume? "Played SC2 professionally. Did not complete university." I don't disagree with that, but I neither see what that has to do with him lying or not. As for looking for a team, he was approached to join a team. Again, NBA as an example. Players go around looking for teams that they want to trade to. It doesn't actually happen and some actually change their mind and extend their contract with the current team. No, that happened a long time later. He left specifically stating he wanted to rest (to Cella he wanted to quit altogether), that he maximally wanted to play until the end of THIS year and that he wouldn't go looking for foreign teams. He started streaming on the 25th, announcing he was teamless and wanted to get a foreign team. He was officially released on the 26th. I don't know what you mean. I've seen it stated by posters that he said he would quit gaming, but I don't see anywhere Crank said that. He only spoke of quitting the team. After he was released he went home and played Starcraft. Otherwise, his statement explicitly says why he left the team vs. the previously released reason, which ended up being used against him even though it was Jessica's decision. It's like they (Crank and Jessica) decided between saying Crank left for neck injury, or saying it was a combination of neck injury and a ton of drama, and they went with the non-drama version back then. Now Jessica claims it was Crank's lie.
It's apperantly in the recording. Jessica stated so in a tweet on the 6th of august or somesuch during the previous situation about Crank lying.
The statements are both different. Jessica says it was Crank that came towards her and wanted to be released due to exactly that. If he didn't convey the other reasons, it's not Jessica's fault. So we can conclude that it's definately Crank that lied, and it MAY be that Jessica's is lying aswell.
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It's things like this that make me glad that I'll never achieve my dream of being a SC2 team owner.
first your players lie about you, and then they abandon you. then the other teams and fans treat you like dog-poop for revealing the BS that was thrown your way.
poor Boxer and Jessica. RIP slayers.
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On October 23 2012 03:46 Veldril wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 03:32 mongmong wrote:On October 23 2012 03:27 Veldril wrote:On October 23 2012 03:20 lambac0re wrote:On October 23 2012 03:15 Ansinjunger wrote:On October 23 2012 03:12 lambac0re wrote:On October 23 2012 03:10 Veldril wrote:On October 23 2012 03:02 lambac0re wrote:On October 23 2012 02:59 Veldril wrote:On October 23 2012 02:55 Shival wrote: [quote]
Changing your mind in mere hours? Yeah... don't think so. But either way, as you said, it looks bad on him either way, if he lied or not. Although I can assure you that he did lie, but if you want to believe something else and stick your head in the ground, go ahead. I would doubt that. Unless you have other concrete evidences then it is still possible that he change his mind or it is a mis-communication. Do you understand the definition of lying? You can't just do something completely different from what you claimed you'll do and then call it "changing your mind". If that were the case everybody could just claim they changed their mind when caught lying. There's different though. Lying means you intentionally say something while have other intention since the beginning. Changing the mind afterward could not really be said as "lying", although it looks equally bad. So unless you can prove his intention at the point where he told Jessica that he wanted to look for foreign team, you cannot said it is definitely lying. You can only said that he might lie to her. However, if you said that he is wrong because he changed his mind without inform Jessica first, then it's totally justified. If this is the case, it's his duty to inform his team of his new intentions. Instead he proceeded to look for a new team while letting his old team believe his old intentions. Same as lying sorry. It was no longer his team, lol. She told him "do what you want." And besides, did you notice how Jessica used the neck injury excuse, and then used that against Crank later, as if it was his lie from the beginning? TIG> It's publicly known that you left the team due to your injury. Crank: When I was leaving the team, Jessica told me that she will release an article for me but I thought "me leaving the team isn't worthy of a press conference." But I was told that there is a new player joining us. She told me she will say I left the team due to my neck injury, and she will work her best to stop any weird rumors from spreading around. And now she is saying that I used my neck injury as an excuse to look for a foreign team. I never thought she would do that.
Uhm no. Jessica specifically released him for neck injuries. He instead used this golden opportunity to do a little team shopping. And that is a possibility of mis-communication comes into a picture. Crank believed he was out of the team with what Jessica said, while Jessica did not mean it like that. And whose job is it to make it extremely clear that one left or not? Is it jessica's? you seem to side with crank by saying it was a miscommunication but even if it is, it is entirely upto the player (insert crank) that he is LEAVING. Welcome to the real world. Lol, no I don't side with Crank. I just present another possibility why things might go wrong. I still think he was wrong to stream and look for foreign team that fast without clearing with Slayers side first. But things might be more complicated that it looks like. We need to look at every possibilities first and try to eliminate them one by one until we only have one explanation to claim what exactly happened. Or else it would just be a speculation without a definite answer. There's no way, right now, to say what really happened in Crank case. We know that he stream/look for foreign team after he left Slayers house, which was wrong. But why did he do that? Did mis-communication happen about his leaving and he thought he has permission to leave the team? Did the word from Jessica imply that he was kicked out of the team? Did he intentionally lied? There's no way you can prove and get rid of all of them until you have one explanation left because we don't have enough evidence. And no, it's not entirely up to the player to leave, if he is under a contract. He needs permission from Jessica first, which is why there is a problem with him right now (which again, can come from mis-communication or other reasons). And if he was not under a contract and was up to him to leave the team, then Jessica has no right to complain about him leaving at all. He has no obligation to stay in the team in the first place. Yeah, it would make him look bad in Asian culture but Jessica whining about that is not mature either.
What youve written is very contradictory.
You want to leave the team? ask for permission whose job is it? Crank's
Him leaving the team house before GSTL match and tellling cella that he is not
going to practice and asked to keep it secret is not exactly what you do to leave the fucking team.
Is that about asking permission?
I want to ask you, whose fault is it? considering that you seem to think there was some
miscommunication between jessica and crank. Was jessica obliged to ask crank if he wants to leave or not?
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On October 23 2012 03:20 stew_ wrote: working on mma interview translation, gimme an hour or so
thx a lot!
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On October 23 2012 03:58 sc2superfan101 wrote: It's things like this that make me glad that I'll never achieve my dream of being a SC2 team owner.
first your players lie about you, and then they abandon you. then the other teams and fans treat you like dog-poop for revealing the BS that was thrown your way.
poor Boxer and Jessica. RIP slayers.
Yeah Boxer and Jessica are just helpless babies who couldn't do anything about it, it's all everyone else's fault.
Nope, SlayerS failure is their failure. The buck stops at Boxer. There's no way around that.
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I wish there was some way to get Cella's perspective on all of this. This is all he said/she said but considering both sides have arguments relying on Cella as a witness, his perspective will go a long way into sorting out whose full of BS.
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On October 23 2012 04:13 ssxsilver wrote: I wish there was some way to get Cella's perspective on all of this. This is all he said/she said but considering both sides have arguments relying on Cella as a witness, his perspective will go a long way into sorting out whose full of BS. Agree. But considering Cella's personality, he wouldn't have wanted this drama to start in the first place, so I doubt he will say anything unless Jessica tells him to.
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TIG: jessica revealed the state of slayers in the past interview. Have you seen it yet? Mma: yes, however there are a lot of distortions in that article. But this does not mean that the players are right and Jessica is wrong. I just wish that people would look at this objectively and not just from one point of view.
TIG: you have a contract with slayers until November 6th. Can you explain us the contract signing process? Mma: before signing the contract, Jessica said that she made it similar to a celebrity (actors/actresses) contract. At first, she told us that the only way to get a sponsor was to let the potential sponsors know that ‘we have play x, y and z’. So kimdongju (ganzi), kimsangjun (puzzle), kimdongwon (ryung), yangjunshik (Alicia) along with myself signed the contract. As mentioned before from Jessica, it was purely for the purpose of securing a sponsor and she made us at ease with that statement, and the contract was signed. Some players that signed did not even bother to read the contract and trusted Jessica’s words.
TIG: what was the incident involving manager J? Mma: I think there needs to be an explanation about manager J. manager J was an employee of corporation R, who were sponsors of Slayers. At first, he dropped by the team house to say hello now and then, but his visits increased in frequency and the guys at the team house got friendly with him. He was similar to us in age and was pretty easy to talk to, so he was popular with the younger guys as well. Boxer liked soccer so we played it a lot within the team. Manager J started playing with us after a while and he was pretty good, so he was our team’s ace (for soccer). When we bought soccer jerseys as a team, we even bought one for him as well.
But a few months later, manager J left his company. Since he was jobless, he came to our team house more often and Jessica saw fit to give him access to the team’s facebook and twitter account since he was fluent in English and german. He had a charming personality, so after time he eventually became in charge of the foreign business, which was previously Cella’s work.
At the same time, Jessica said not to worry or even to ask about the sponsors. We were contracted with corporation R at the time when we got to know manager J, so jessica’s statement of the 2 month thing is wrong (not sure what he’s referring to here). The incident started at this time.
TIG: could you explain more about this incident Mma: it was right before my code s match versus alive (feb, 15th, 2012). I heard something shocking from manager J that Jessica was forwarding my potential personal sponsor to boxer. I couldn’t believe it. I got confused but I had no one talk to. My mind was heavily burdened for the weeks afterwards
After much turmoil, I confessed to crank about my feelings. We talked a lot. Crank was also sad because he couldn’t do anything for me, so it was hard on him as well. As this went on, I got more stressed and even thought of quitting the game. If I said this to Jessica, I thought manager J would get the blame too so I did not talk.
After, my performance fell and I just focused on the game more since there was nothing I could do about it. Crank suggested that I go talk to boxer as he would know more from a player’s viewpoint. So I talked to boxer. Boxer knew this was dangerous waters so he checked around for a few days and told me that there was nothing of that nature (potential personal sponsor) going on.
Jessica did not release any details about our sponsors so I had no choice but to trust manager J regarding this matter because he was a former employee of corporation R. at the same time, I lost faith in Jessica because of how she treated the players and the arguments she picked with other players (on other teams).
As the manager J incident was wrapping up, boxer and Jessica gathered all the players and said ‘if there is anything we did wrong, it was letting manager J come into the team house, so let’s try harder and get the team house atmosphere up again’. However, it was already too late. There was no way to turn back the situation because the players were already too deeply wounded.
In this environment, I lived at the team house for a few months. Crank saw the seriousness of this situation and appealed individually to boxer and Jessica, but nothing changed. In contrast, Jessica was saying things like ‘the team is like this because of mma’ and pointing the blame towards me. Then the contract annulment thing blew up.
TIG: by contract annulment, you mean the contract between the team and players? Mma: yes, Jessica said in her interview that there was no splitting of the prizes from individual events but told us to split the money because of ‘coach ryu’s wages and player maintenance funds’ at the time, cella received some portion of player’s foreign prize winnings (less than ~$1000 USD). Jessica said to give a portion of the winnings from foreign events. So as agreed on the contract, we sent a portion of the winnings to an account Jessica provided. After this, nothing changed still.
Boxer and Jessica almost never came to the practice room and we were managed by the coaches only. We still had to take public transportation to get to and from the venues and the team house. Even in the winter, we had to commute between gimpo and mokdong (about 50~85min by bus/subway) and we realized that this affected our conditions for the matches that we had to play that day. After discussing this with the players, we also noticed that there were no differences between the contracted players and the non-contract players and came to a conclusion that this would not be good for the team, so we decided to bring up the issue to boxer and Jessica.
The reply that came back was ‘we cant give the car to cella’ and ‘coach ryu has no license, so he can’t drive at all’. Crank couldn’t stand this, so he volunteered to drive and drove the players to the gomtv studios. Crank was part of the motorized military before, so he had plenty of driving experience.
There was no change and the players’ discontent grew. I asked coach ryu if he had received any wages and he told me that he did not receive anything until February of 2012. Furthermore, when cella accompanied me to mlg in the states, he had to pay for the roaming charges on his cell phone even though Jessica promised to pay for it. Coach ryu asked Jessica about the promised wages and was told that ‘we don’t collect money from the players, you go collect it for yourself’.
About an hour after Jessica told ryu the aforementioned statement, she called me and crank to her house. Boxer and Jessica told me everything and me and crank talked of the discontent that we had. At the end, Jessica said that ‘lets nullify the contract right now’ and asked if we wanted to rip our contracts, but I didn’t want to. We were returned the money that we paid after a week.
TIG: this contrasts with jessica’s statement that a contract was remaining. When did you verify this? Mma: we trusted Jessica. But this was our mistake. After Jessica said ‘lets rip the contracts’, she gathered all the players and said ‘I wont hold you back if you want to leave the team’.
At this time, the players that wanted to go to a foreign team (ganzi, taeja) had their contracts nullified. After a few days, we asked if the contract was really nullified. However, Jessica said that the contract was only nullified for those that wanted to leave the team on that day only. After hearing this, the players were very disappointed at Jessica and I was hurt by jessica’s duplicity. *note by editor here says taeja was not in a contract with slayers.
TIG: do you have anything to say about your relegation to B-team in july? Mma: it was right before the GSTL match. After the aforementioned events, I needed to clear my mind so I went out on Saturday. I cleared my mind and returned. the game was coming up, so the only thing I was thinking was about winning. Jessica stated that I did not return to the team house, but this is false. I did all my tasks, then left on Saturday night and returned on Sunday morning.
After returning, ryung told me what boxer said: ‘mma is like a cancer cell, so I have to quarantine you from him’. After hearing this, I lost all passion for preparing for the GSTL and the team. The thought that ran through my mind was ‘im trying so hard for my team, but this is what they think of me’ and I despaired.
TIG: what kind of communication went between you and boxer? Mma: boxer told me that I was relegated to the b-team so I should go home. I wondered why I got relegated and did not understand. I wish boxer and Jessica would have told me what I did wrong, but there was no communication between us and I was relegated.
After hearing this from ryung, I packed my bags and told boxer ‘im leaving so you don’t need to relegate me’. Boxer said that I was under a contract so I couldn’t leave on my free will. This made my emotions run high and I told him that this is a slavery contract.
About this statement, I am very sorry. The slavery contract was the contract between the individuals of the management and me, not between the team and me, so even if I transferred, I had to give a portion of the tournament winnings to Jessica. There was silence for 10 minutes and boxer said ‘we do things our way’ and the conversation ended. The next day, the article regarding relegation came out.
TIG: after the article came out, Jessica came to the interview for code a (july 25th) Mma: I met with Jessica and asked ‘how could you write an article like this’. i asked ‘did I even ask for a transfer to a foreign team?’ and the reply that came back was ‘I’ll rewrite the article if you want’. I was flabbergasted. She then explained me the terms of the ‘slavery contract’. ‘this is nothing. In the entertainment industry, the standard for a contract is 5 or 10 years’
I wondered the relevance of bringing up terms of contracts in the entertainment industry. After, Jessica said that she will not receive any statements about the relegation and cut off questions from reporters. So the interview went out, but it was only about the game itself. I had a little bit to say at the end about my current situation and feelings to the fans.
TIG: you told Jessica you wanted to leave twice Mma: yes, that’s right. The first time was when everyone at the team house was having a hard time because of the incident with manager J and I could not stand the management badmouthing me so I did not want to be a part of the team anymore. However there were those that helped me out a lot before and I was thankful, so I did not tell them of the current events (I think he’s referring to manager/coaches of other teams). instead, I said I wanted a transfer to a foreign team. Shortly afterwards, talks began with slayers and a foreign team (TL). During this, a lot of facts were hidden from me (by Jessica) so my mistrust grew even more. So I said I wanted to leave the team for a second time
TIG: Jessica said that when you went to foreign events, no one (other Koreans) said hello to you and ostracized you while badmouthing Jessica. Is this true? Mma: I went to more foreign events than any other members of my team. So I was able to hear bad rumors of Jessica from other people. Although I heard these, I respected her so I was very objective about them. I told Jessica of these, and Jessica said wistfully that she would like to become friendly with other teams as well.
Even after this, there was no change and Jessica even said ‘this is how we don’t get ignored by other teams’. I said that there were other methods of going about this and she said that ‘you have to be vocal to be heard’. Afterwards, I did not tell Jessica what other people thought of her.
TIG: can you tell us of hidden facts regarding the transfer Mma: afterwards, I was able to find out about the trade negotiations. An incredibly large sum of money was demanded for me even though I had 3 months left on my contract. The talks broke down. This was because of the absurd transfer fee and other inquiries were made to teams that I didn’t even want to go to.
After a month, I was able to verify that in some negotiations, my transfer fee was zero. This change in behavior in Jessica is what ultimately made boxer move to SKT1.
TIG: in april, boxer stated that he stopped playing because of the players. What do you think of this statement Mma: I think the biggest reason why boxer stopped playing is because of jessica’s constant interference in and out of the game. Boxer likes to focus and practice. Although he gets angry after a loss, he endures it and continues playing. In situations like this, calls kept coming about unimportant stuff and he sometimes complained that he couldn’t practice because of Jessica.
Because of this, the atmosphere in the team house fell. Jessica likes to read various community sites and berated boxer by saying things like ‘why did you do this’, ‘why didn’t you use this strategy’. Overall, the meddling was pretty severe. Boxer sometimes said that he wanted to quit gaming because of all the meddling. Because of this, boxer and Jessica argued a lot. During this time period, an article was published saying that boxer’s shoulder conditions were not good. Although his shoulders were not very good from previous times, I think the main reason for boxer’s quitting as a player is because of Jessica.
From a player’s perspective, the interview with Jessica about the team’s disbanding seems to be directed wholly at the players. She fails to acknowledge that she had faults with her managerial skills and tries to blame all of it on us. Therefore, boxer did not lose his will to play because of us.
TIG: Jessica said that mma has no desire to move to a kespa team or play in proleague Mma: when I was doing well, Jessica said that when slayers could negotiate with kespa teams in the future, she would sell me to SKT1 for a large amount of money. She said that skt1 is the best terran team and wished that I would do better than fantasy (when he transfers).
Before I started playing sc2, I was a practice student in skt1. I was in poor health there. When I played more than 25 games a day, my index finger would start to get paralyzed and my whole hand would hurt. So I only played about 20 games and I spent the rest of the time watching replays and VODS, as well as researching. Back then, the proleague system was a place where I couldn’t do well physically. Somehow, this statement got blown out of proportion and I do not understand this.
TIG: anything else you want to say? Mma: I want to thank boxer and Jessica for making me a famous player as well as giving me an opportunity in slayers. However, the events that occurred up until now have affected the team in a very bad way and I have also gotten hurt. I want to apologize to boxer and Jessica about these events.
However, I want to state that jessica’s interview in many ways were distorted and a lot of players received unnecessary blame for it. That’s why they agreed to interviews. I apologize for making the fans worry so much. I would also like to apologize for any wrongdoings done by the plays, on behalf of the players. Again, I am very sorry.
original article: http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?category=13439&id=1319677
발퀄번역 ㅈㅅ
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Thanks for the translation That was really pretty long.
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On October 23 2012 02:00 Zocat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 01:38 tMomiji wrote: I'm just really disappointed that they blame so much on Crank. I can understand wanting to leave an upsetting environment, I honestly hope that MMA joins Axiom along with Ryung and Crank so that they can all be in a better environment together. I just wonder what has happened with Alicia - not because I want to pry, but because he's a player I really like and I hope he will be okay. The problem is how he left. He says "So when I told her that I wanted to leave the team I made sure to tell her that it's not because of money" and "I was preparing to quit my gaming career", and then a short time after he left he suddenly joins a foreign team (which are known to have a lot of money). I personally can easily understand that someone would connect the dots in such a way that he just lied to get out of SlayerS. And I can also understand how some people are angry about such behavior. Such a misunderstanding could've been prevented by him if he contacted SlayerS after the Axiom offer and explained his change of mind. But he apparently didnt care what SlayerS thought of him, or the relationship was too bad to have such a talk - I dont know (it could even be the case they had such a talk which wasnt fruitful). But even then, imagine he lied and made everything he could to get out Slayers. What kind of team would Slayers be in that case ? It's supposed to be one of the best team, they have a lot of explanations to give if their players want to "flee". Money or not money, if you're well somewhere you don't want to leave like that.
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Thank you for the translation!
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Props to the translation stew_!
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Thanks for the translation!
Great level-headed response from MMA. The only thing you can really fault him for is for being gullible (in regards to manager J). I still think Jessica is more in the "right" due to various evidence, but the fact that MMA's apology is not a footnote following mudslinging is very commendable.
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So what we've learned:
In Korea, only 30% of the populaton have a driving licence(those wo went to the army and learned to drive with tanks).
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Wait so if I'm reading this right, Jessica offered to nullify the contracts, those that wanted to go to foreign teams accepted and got their contracts nullified, then several days later mma(and others) ask if the contracts they did not chose to nullify were nullified? And mma heard the sponsor rumour from manager J, talked to Boxer who said it was untrue, and then chose to believe manager J anyway?
These statements from the players seem to just raise more questions than answers...
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Thanks for doing a proper translation stew_.
May I raise the question why MMA blames Jessica for Boxer leaving Slayers and quiting as a player? That seems a very silly accusation since they're engaged...
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OH SNAP!!!
Thanks stew for all your work in translating that interview. The most interesting part about it to me was the revelation that Jessica was one of the key factors in Boxer losing his will to play. If that's true, it's HUGE. Obviously I can't tell if it's true or not, as all we have here is MMA's word, but wow...
Strap in boys, this shiznit just got real!
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HO DAMN MMA SAYS BOXER QUIT SLAYERS BC OF JESSICA'S MEDDLING
shit just got REAAAALLLLLLLL hahahahahah
this is better than any drama i have ever seen on TV
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