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ref4
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Rhaegar_tar
France847 Posts
On December 06 2012 03:15 ref4 wrote: If Mvp wins this he should be forever known as the Bonjwa for WoL. Nope, he isn't and won't be called a bonjwa. | ||
nimdil
Poland3743 Posts
On December 06 2012 03:17 Rhaegar_tar wrote: Nope, he isn't and won't be called a bonjwa. Yea. He was close at one time - if only there was no MMA... Now he is not. But honestly I start to think that there won't be Bonjwa. More fuel to the "SC2 has to low skill ceiling" argument I guess. | ||
Thrillz
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mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:01 Thrillz wrote: Not sure if anyone else posted but here are the GSL Tour Finals Groups For those that only read threads. Group A MVP DongRaeGu HerO Leenock PartinG Group B Sniper Life Rain viOLet Seed I think Group A will be Leenock > Parting > MVP > Hero > DRG Group B Sniper > Life > Violet > Rain > Seed Pretty hard to tell either way. I think the biggest underdog here is Seed. He hasn't had a good last couple of months. Anyone from the rest could take it all imo. | ||
Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
RIP Seed, he's fucked. | ||
FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:16 Dodgin wrote: Good news everyone, Mvp isn't in the harder group. RIP Seed, he's fucked. pfft he just needs to freshen up + Show Spoiler + jk he's fucked T_T | ||
PhoenixVoid
Canada32725 Posts
Group A : Leenock, HerO, PartinG, DRG, Mvp Group B: viOLet, Life/Rain (interchangeable really, these two are really close in terms of skill), Sniper, Seed I just don't see anyone defeating Leenock and viOLet currently, PartinG/HerO/Life/Rain/Sniper are contenders but unlikely to defeat Leenock/viOlet, while DRG, Mvp and Seed haven't really been impressing me recently. But hey, its frigging Mvp. @FrostedMiniWheats: Oh lawl. | ||
LemonyTang
United Kingdom428 Posts
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Thrillz
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AlLaboUtME
16 Posts
On December 06 2012 03:45 nimdil wrote: Yea. He was close at one time - if only there was no MMA... Now he is not. But honestly I start to think that there won't be Bonjwa. More fuel to the "SC2 has to low skill ceiling" argument I guess. We are just summing up the game that is Wings of Liberty, we still have two expansions to go and who knows what will happen then? Now with a larger pool of korean players with the KeSPA players in the picture, when the expansions are figured out and the metagame becomes somewhat stable as it has been lately in WoL we will see something at least resembling a bonjwa in Brood War. | ||
opterown
Australia54649 Posts
i hope GSL S1 next year can be like another super tourney maybe :p | ||
PhoenixVoid
Canada32725 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:32 AlLaboUtME wrote: We are just summing up the game that is Wings of Liberty, we still have two expansions to go and who knows what will happen then? Now with a larger pool of korean players with the KeSPA players in the picture, when the expansions are figured out and the metagame becomes somewhat stable as it has been lately in WoL we will see something at least resembling a bonjwa in Brood War. I think LotV is the only period where a bonjwa can be crowned. WoL and HotS are too short to crown bonjwas, while LotV is the last expansion and going to be the most stable period because there would be no more unit changes unless Blizzard decides to take 6-8 years making LotV. But if we are to informally decide a bonjwa for WoL, I think most people have Mvp in mind. | ||
bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:39 opterown wrote: ooh, nice groups. i hope GSL S1 next year can be like another super tourney maybe :p I was honestly surprised they didn't do a super tournament again speaking of that. Why was it not continued? Were ratings worse? Production worse? I felt like there was way more hype for the super tournament than almost every other Code S that year. Or by taking a break from Code A/S it meant that ratings for that were worse as a result and it averaged out poorly? I wonder, I don't remember hearing anything on it. [/derail] | ||
PhoenixVoid
Canada32725 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:42 bittman wrote: I was honestly surprised they didn't do a super tournament again speaking of that. Why was it not continued? Were ratings worse? Production worse? I felt like there was way more hype for the super tournament than almost every other Code S that year. Or by taking a break from Code A/S it meant that ratings for that were worse as a result and it averaged out poorly? I wonder, I don't remember hearing anything on it. [/derail] I don't remember, but I swear there was some small article about Super Tournament written by Fionn I think, which said something about ST being discontinued because of less hype and the prize pool being too large to be sustainable. | ||
s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
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6BiT
513 Posts
I doubt any player will be as dominant as Mvp was in 2011. | ||
FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:57 6BiT wrote: I don't think it matters if someone does or doesn't consider Mvp a "bonjwa". During Hots & Lotv eras, when people look back at the 2 and a half years of Wing of Liberty, Mvp will be remembered as the best/most dominant player. I doubt any player will be as dominant as Mvp was in 2011. I'd be more optimistic. MVP wasn't THAT dominant. MMA and Protoss gave him trouble enough, and Leenock knocked him out in the November season. His periods of momentum don't seem terribly beyond the realm of possibility to replicate. Now to beat his number of gsl wins and finalist appearances overall in his career, that will be a tough feat to beat considering how hard it is to stay at the top these days. Though I think HotS is shaping up to raise the skill cap thankfully. | ||
InoyouS2
1005 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:19 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: pfft he just needs to freshen up + Show Spoiler + jk he's fucked T_T To be honest, a couple of months earlier and these groups wouldn't look remotely similar in skill level. | ||
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