Saved alot of cash. Want to move to play full time - Page 4
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lifeangelus
51 Posts
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
On December 20 2012 15:45 Xeris wrote: don't do it This made me laugh quite a bit. You may be right about this... How much do you actually have saved OP? You are talking about not working for years, I hope you realize how expensive that could get... | ||
lifeangelus
51 Posts
Im not looking to pour money into a scene I cant change Im looking to enjoy myself playing sc2 in another country. | ||
FrodaN
754 Posts
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ljd1131
Australia83 Posts
On December 20 2012 16:19 lifeangelus wrote: Ohh sorry I missed the ask on the ID. My ID is Hammer. Neverheard of you, what tourney's have you played on sea? | ||
a9arnn
United States1537 Posts
On December 20 2012 15:58 ReachTheSky wrote: starcraft 2 is an old boys club. Unless ur friends with anyone "famous" in the community or post huge results on a consistent basis in major events your not going to make a dime at all. Sc2 is not worth trying to be pro. 1.5 years ago sure. Now, not at all. Infact if you don't already have a name for yourself, chances are you won't make one. I feel like this is the opposite mindset you should have. OP you can be there to prove everyone else wrong, and there's definitely easy ways to get around not knowing anyone in the SC community, especially where you are in your life. If you've got loads of money and 2 houses, it should be relatively simple to go to events and meet people there. As a poor college student I've managed to meet a lot of the people out there and I think if you want to move somewhere for better practice, being near places that hold events is a great way to network and get your name out there. You might not be the best player out there, but if you show how much you want something, there's gonna be someone that will bite. Good luck dude, hope you manage to improve! | ||
dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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-Kyo-
Japan1926 Posts
On December 20 2012 15:22 CCalms wrote: Ministry of Win is not what you are looking for and Complexity Academy will not help you grow as a player whatsoever (you will receive and mousepad, a headset, and maybe get to play against coL.Sasquatch once or twice, which wouldn't help you anyway because you aren't at his skill level yet). If you really want to do this, BY FAR the best way to go about doing it is in cooperation with an existing North American team to form a teamhouse where you can practice with players that are better than you (don't settle for anything less than 3+ top 100 GM players). In order to get the best opportunities, you will have to present yourself as a subsidy to the team in one way or another (probably paying a considerable, though practical, portion of teamhouse expenses). If you don't throw the cash in, then you will end up with players that are as bad as you and you may as well stay at home laddering all day. Finally, I have to warn you that your method of going about doing this is very dubious. You will surely improve quickly in an environment with better players, but in consideration of your life as a whole, it is a far better option to just continue with a standard career while playing on the side. ANYBODY who really puts in the effort can easily achieve grandmaster in north america (very, very big difference from grandmaster in SEA) on their own, and there is NO justification for throwing so much money and time out of the window until you reach this point. Chasing complexity will not get you anywhere unless you are communicating directly with the main team. The academy is not actually an academy, don't let the name fool you. Not sure where you get this sort of idea. I can say for sure that Fuzzy has helped me practice my PvZ again and again when I was in need of it. That aside, being able to actually practice with the main team if you're on when they're looking for players is something quite advantageous to all academy members. Let alone the fact of slots in the team house for academy members and the various other things sasquatch mentioned... If you want to get good and make full use of what assets are around Complexity there is no doubt that players like Gosuuser, Sas, or anyone else for that matter, can rise up and be the next main team member IF they put enough effort into it. Not sure how that doesn't motivate you to become a better player if you're serious about it. Looking forward to playing you on ladder again! glhf In response to the OP: Save your money until you're at least around mid/high GM and then start thinking about looking into paying for a spot in a place like ministry of win or something of the sort. The truth of the matter is, if you can't obtain a certain level of skill on your own it doesn't really matter where you're training. It's really all about how hard you can do it and if you yourself have the ability to continue in growth as a player. Hope that helps! + Show Spoiler + probably want to be looking at least top 50 GM for it to be worth your time... there are a lot of players in that area who are in school and barely play but still maintain a high rank. You'll need to be able to do this at least if you'd like to really get your worth out of any money you spend. | ||
lastshadow
United States1372 Posts
If you want to know everything there is to know about Korea for SC2 (Seoul vs Busan living) or whatever then you can message me. Don't go to MoW as it will take away your ability to play on Korea, you'd learn faster here. America is just as bad unless you could get into some house out there (are there any even left? Quantic is gone.. Razer house had 1 person left in it?) EG obviously won't allow strangers 99% likely. I lived in a one-bedroom apartment in Korea, as well as various team houses/other places, and I played from pcbangs often, etc, I'd be willing to answer all your questions you have regarding the move or whatever (if you were to choose Korea) | ||
WetSocks
United States953 Posts
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
GL to you though, I don't know a whole lot about what you're looking for, but as people have said, MoW is probably a good suggestion edit - Lastshadow would be a good source, I'm sure he can offer answers to most of your questions | ||
anycolourfloyd
Australia524 Posts
On December 20 2012 15:10 lifeangelus wrote: Im 28. Im not putting anything on the line by doing this. I already own 2 properties out-right in australia so all the extra cash ive had is straight in my bank. Ive worked since I was 12 and am looking to do something I enjoy in life while Im still young. 800 us a month is nothing was expecting it to be much more. Thanks for more advice looking into the ministry of win now. working.. as a dealer?! | ||
Lumi
United States1612 Posts
Man, I don't want to discourage you from making yourself happy, I just don't know if the extremes you're plotting are necessary for it, or for your progression as a player :o There are lots of people who are GM with school or a job, and no team environments etc. People who are as serious about the game as you're looking to land yourself with (by the looks of it) are all already way higher and got there on their own. It's hard to find people in sub-gm leagues who are actually ever going to leave them. When people are serious, they move up. Solo! So, I guess, regardless of my cautioning - the one bottom line I can actually give to you is that you need to take your game up a few levels still before you'll be fitting into any group of serious, f orward moving players. And, by the time you've done that.. it's going to be excruciatingly hard for you to get even further yet xD We'd be talking about going from low gm to high gm.. still a fine goal, but it starts to contradict your disclaimer of not looking to be a pro or anything. Anyway, I love your passion for the game and can relate. Glad to know you're a part of our scene, and that you're just pursuing what makes you happy. That's what I'm talking about maaaan! | ||
Mstring
Australia510 Posts
On December 20 2012 16:27 -Kyo- wrote: The truth of the matter is, if you can't obtain a certain level of skill on your own it doesn't really matter where you're training. You can't train SC2 in Australia. We don't have SC2 in Australia. We have SC2+100ms XD | ||
lifeangelus
51 Posts
Thanks for the massive amount of PM's also. Lots of great inforamtion and advice. | ||
Lumi
United States1612 Posts
On December 20 2012 16:36 lifeangelus wrote: Once against guys not looking for life advice. Just looking for stuff on sc2. Please dont call me a gimmick player. I love macro. always have always will. Only use an all in at the start of a set to keep people honest. Thanks for the massive amount of PM's also. Lots of great inforamtion and advice. I didn't call you a gimmick player, if you're referring to my post just above. I was trying to account for real possibilities and concerns that you might wish to be privy to, were they valid. How could I know what kind of player you are ;o? Seems like you addressed all the wrong things I said, without responding to some of the cold hard concerns about what I believe to be the inexistence of what you are seeking for yourself \= Have fun doing whatever it is you will be, though. | ||
CajunMan
United States823 Posts
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lifeangelus
51 Posts
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Mstring
Australia510 Posts
On December 20 2012 16:40 lifeangelus wrote: Sorry I didnt mean to be a tool. I know my skill sets and am a very confident player. Just looking for the next stepping stone that laddering in australia cannot provide. I just wanna play more sc2 in the right enviroment. and your luck to get 100ms i have 200+ all the time. I really should have mentioned that I meant PLUS 100ms on everyone else I play with 230ms so I can understand your reluctance to stick around. | ||
NoGasfOu
United States1117 Posts
These will determine whether you could hang around as a pro or not. | ||
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