MoW's reputation is now really really bad.....
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dynwar7
1983 Posts
MoW's reputation is now really really bad..... | ||
Excludos
Norway7685 Posts
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JazzNL
182 Posts
On December 24 2012 07:16 Gentso wrote: Gotta love it. As soon as someone joins an online site they think they're part of something and already calling for boycots! I think you should do what you want to do, and not try to influence anyone else, let alone an entire website. I am part of something, it's called a community. Also, you're trying to influence me, try living by your own rules. | ||
RvB
Netherlands6077 Posts
On December 24 2012 08:01 Wilko wrote: If it would be really that bad, i wouldn't live in MoW for half a year already I like it here and despite some bumps in the past it runs very smoothly now It just makes me sad that the community is desperately searching for drama and villians and tries to blindly destroy this project that helped quite a lot of people in their eSports career And i'm tired trying to explain the situation to the community. I'm a player who lived here for a very long time and im able to give an objective persepective about the situation, but last time my statements along with some other players statement who were living here just got ignored because it didn't fit in the community's black & white scheme and the community just continued to go on their hate-filled furious rampage to destroy this project (sponsor-mailing, hatemailing and even life-threatening mail) There are always two sides of the medal, there were quite many problems with the people who worked for MoW, which you have to expect in this country. Don't take this offensively, i like this country and their people a lot, otherwise i would not live here for such long time, but anyone who worked with polish companies or used services in poland before knows what i'm talking about. There are always two sides in an agreement and both parties have to fullfil their duties, i don't know exact details, but people who worked here failed to fulfill them. Cooks who were actually ordering food and faking bills and after some time refused to make proper meals (which is actually the reason for the terrible food situation that some of you guys might still remember, gladly we have a new cook and proper food now) Tournament organizers who failed organizing the tournament. The first couple online qualifiers their website was either completely down, crashing or having severe issues, resulting in many pro players not wanting to participate anymore. Their organization was a disaster and they did a very poor job promoting the tournament to the point when MoW itself had to organize and promote it even tho they hired the tournament organizer for that cause The community has the power to create eSports, but also the power to destroy it I just wish they would be more objective and would take both sides and statements into consideration before they start acting I'm not trying to dispute the things you said but how can you give an objective perspective about something if you've lived / live there? | ||
Northern_iight
Canada363 Posts
On December 25 2012 00:39 JazzNL wrote: I am part of something, it's called a community. Also, you're trying to influence me, try living by your own rules. Lol this kid have been drinking the kool aid so hard. This all "community" thing people feel part of hurts the scene as much as it helps it. You're probably the kind of people that feel the need of action and go emailing sponsors and stuff. People should just sit back and not get involved in these things. Maybe do some other things... like getting better at the game? | ||
figq
12519 Posts
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On December 25 2012 00:43 RvB wrote: I'm not trying to dispute the things you said but how can you give an objective perspective about something if you've lived / live there? It's called firsthand testimony! EDIT: Maybe that doesn't mean he's 100% objective, but he has a better view on things that ALLOWS for a much more objective opinion. | ||
Forgottenfrog
United States1268 Posts
On December 24 2012 08:01 Wilko wrote: If it would be really that bad, i wouldn't live in MoW for half a year already I like it here and despite some bumps in the past it runs very smoothly now It just makes me sad that the community is desperately searching for drama and villians and tries to blindly destroy this project that helped quite a lot of people in their eSports career And i'm tired trying to explain the situation to the community. I'm a player who lived here for a very long time and im able to give an objective persepective about the situation, but last time my statements along with some other players statement who were living here just got ignored because it didn't fit in the community's black & white scheme and the community just continued to go on their hate-filled furious rampage to destroy this project (sponsor-mailing, hatemailing and even life-threatening mail) There are always two sides of the medal, there were quite many problems with the people who worked for MoW, which you have to expect in this country. Don't take this offensively, i like this country and their people a lot, otherwise i would not live here for such long time, but anyone who worked with polish companies or used services in poland before knows what i'm talking about. There are always two sides in an agreement and both parties have to fullfil their duties, i don't know exact details, but people who worked here failed to fulfill them. Cooks who were actually ordering food and faking bills and after some time refused to make proper meals (which is actually the reason for the terrible food situation that some of you guys might still remember, gladly we have a new cook and proper food now) Tournament organizers who failed organizing the tournament. The first couple online qualifiers their website was either completely down, crashing or having severe issues, resulting in many pro players not wanting to participate anymore. Their organization was a disaster and they did a very poor job promoting the tournament to the point when MoW itself had to organize and promote it even tho they hired the tournament organizer for that cause The community has the power to create eSports, but also the power to destroy it I just wish they would be more objective and would take both sides and statements into consideration before they start acting It's easy to point the finger at someone else. Oh, it was the cook fault... oh it was the tournament organizer's fault. When is MoW going to hire competent workers because what the community see is MoW ruining their reputation time and time again. Ultimately MoW is hiring the wrong people and that's no one fault but the person in charge with those decisions. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24917 Posts
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Wilko
Germany470 Posts
On December 25 2012 00:10 Noobity wrote: I'd ask Snute if MoW training had anything to do with his recent rise to success. The training side is still very good. I feel i improved a lot here even tho i know i don't have talent for rts and so did many other players. You can focus 100% on training. When Snute was here he improved a ton and so he was able to qualify for MLG and IPL while he was living here. As he says himself and states in interviews, he was in the best shape during the time when he was in MoW. He was eating healthy, at proper times, had a fixed schedule and was working out in our gym. So he was in the best shape to be actually able to train for 12+ hours a day without getting exhausted or having to care about cooking, doing laundry, cleaning, etc. On December 25 2012 01:30 Forgottenfrog wrote: It's easy to point the finger at someone else. Oh, it was the cook fault... oh it was the tournament organizer's fault. When is MoW going to hire competent workers because what the community see is MoW ruining their reputation time and time again. Ultimately MoW is hiring the wrong people and that's no one fault but the person in charge with those decisions. Yes, you are right about that. It was MoWs fault to have not the right people. Some of that was just bad luck, but it was also not proper management, but those problems got solved by now even though it took more time than it was supposed to take. | ||
Mazzi
440 Posts
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JazzNL
182 Posts
On December 25 2012 00:45 Northern_iight wrote: Lol this kid have been drinking the kool aid so hard. This all "community" thing people feel part of hurts the scene as much as it helps it. You're probably the kind of people that feel the need of action and go emailing sponsors and stuff. People should just sit back and not get involved in these things. Maybe do some other things... like getting better at the game? I've never had someone trying to insult me and say stuff that's so unrelated to me lol, you're a funny kid way to keep it on-topic btw! | ||
TelecoM
United States10583 Posts
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canikizu
4860 Posts
Tenants are living good. Employees don't get paid. Noone like employer and he plays LoL. Do I miss anything? | ||
dsousa
United States1363 Posts
On December 25 2012 13:45 canikizu wrote: So to sum up the thread: Tenants are living good. Employees don't get paid. Noone like employer and he plays LoL. Do I miss anything? I hope not, because I'm going with that. Have any of the tenants shown an improvement in any measurable way? | ||
Wingblade
United States1806 Posts
On December 25 2012 13:45 canikizu wrote: So to sum up the thread: Tenants are living good. Employees don't get paid. Noone like employer and he plays LoL. Do I miss anything? Angry forumgoers are thrilled to finally breakout their rusty pitchforks and fix them off after a slightly drama void few weeks. Forgot that. | ||
shizaep
Canada2920 Posts
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Csong
Canada396 Posts
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CapnAmerica
United States508 Posts
Also, the OP has only ever posted about MoW drama and portrayed MoW in a negative light (potentially justifiably, but that's not my point). Little odd. I'm considering the source... | ||
silent_owl
Philippines3098 Posts
Seriously, the MoW should shape up or just shut down. It isn't really doing anything long run for e-sports. EDIT: Okay! Just read through the entire thread. Seems like MoW has gotten more professional over the past months. I hope it deals with all the bad press properly though. GL to MoW. Still don't know what to believe though. | ||
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