EG.IdrA + RotterdaM at CES 2013 next week!
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EG.lectR
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mambar
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Good luck, everyone | ||
AnachronisticAnarchy
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NKB
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erw
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StarVe
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bsdaemon
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ElMeanYo
United States1032 Posts
Mass hallucinated void rays anyone? Or maybe kill your own command center? | ||
grush57
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ez pz | ||
Zealos
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EmNGiantNome
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Zenbrez
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StarStruck
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On January 05 2013 06:39 Zealos wrote: 20 mins? That can't be all that hard? He'll probably just go for a 12 min max roach army every game, and his opponents will frantically hide buildings. | ||
Nazeron
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RemarK
United States452 Posts
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
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GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
On January 05 2013 06:41 StarStruck wrote: Why survive when you can beat him in less than twenty? o_O Lol this? Any top master - gm player can "last" 20 minutes if they just play normally and take it to the late game. | ||
zephiK
United States372 Posts
Would be cool if the Kingston HyperX anniversary played some of the most interesting games of this IdrA + rotterdam during the breaks in between games on EG's main tournament, HyperX or something in between those lines. | ||
chadissilent
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Bibbit
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
Rotty: So, we've decided to reduce the time to 14 minutes | ||
EG.lectR
United States617 Posts
On January 05 2013 06:46 zephiK wrote: This seems to be overlooked but any chance this will be streamed as it is live commentary? Would be cool if the Kingston HyperX anniversary played some of the most interesting games of this IdrA + rotterdam during the breaks in between games on EG's main tournament, HyperX or something in between those lines. They're in two different venues, unfortunately | ||
KarlKaliente
United States434 Posts
On January 05 2013 06:46 Proseat wrote: So yet another EG-TL player who will not be there for some or all of the matches this week in Proleague. Like they would ever throw idra in PL... they already have taeja hero stephano JD puma JYP revival zenio... Far too much talent between the teams to be reaching so far | ||
BigWig22
Canada6 Posts
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kochanfe
Micronesia1338 Posts
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
On January 05 2013 06:46 Zenbrez wrote: *9 games in* Rotty: So, we've decided to reduce the time to 14 minutes Well that depends on what kind of players shows up really! | ||
Kreb
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Hider
Denmark9237 Posts
On January 05 2013 06:44 Nazeron wrote: would be pretty sweet to last 20 mins against idra, i dont think many people if any will tho I think eveyr plat+ player will do that lol. Just turtle hard core, and if you fail lift off your buildings - haha. | ||
JustPassingBy
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Shellshock
United States97248 Posts
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Mystgun
Hong Kong311 Posts
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On January 05 2013 07:46 JustPassingBy wrote: 20 normal minutes or 20 blizzard minutes? IRL 20 minutes might as well be play to win lol | ||
JustPassingBy
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TsGBruzze
Sweden1190 Posts
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Puph
Canada635 Posts
On January 05 2013 06:46 chadissilent wrote: Do I have to make it last 20 minutes or can I beat him in less? This reminds me so much of Bone Saw in Spiderman. "You're going nowhere! ... Bone Saw is READY!" Seriously, does anyone know what kind of products? Surely he could be beaten a dozen times or so. | ||
Zennith
United States795 Posts
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
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Grimmyman123
Canada939 Posts
20 minutes? I can turtle better than the best of them. Its winning in the late game I have problems with... | ||
RotterdaM
Netherlands683 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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jcroisdale
United States1543 Posts
When a higher level player plays against a lower level player they will play different. He will be doing constant pressure and just out multi task you until the 15 minute mark when he runs you over with broodlords and infestors. | ||
Solarsail
United Kingdom538 Posts
On January 05 2013 08:37 jcroisdale wrote: Im sorry but I've finished at top masters before, and I know i could never take a game off Idra. The difference between TOP GM level and High masters in the difference between bronze and masters. I've played a few top pros and couldn't even hold for 15 minutes in most games. When a higher level player plays against a lower level player they will play different. He will be doing constant pressure and just out multi task you until the 15 minute mark when he runs you over with broodlords and infestors. It doesn't say "win". | ||
Sein
United States1811 Posts
On January 05 2013 08:26 tshi wrote: haha, cool. I hope a good pro-gramer shows up to screw with the system, lol. One can dream, but it would be hilarious to see MC just show up out of no where with a giant smile on his face :D Someone winning this challenge would not "screw with the system". Looks like you win a computer case if you are successful, and I'm sure the InWin could afford to give out quite a few of those. | ||
templar rage
United States2509 Posts
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zev318
Canada4304 Posts
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Broodwurst
Germany1586 Posts
On January 05 2013 08:48 templar rage wrote: Yeah, random people who think lasting 20 minutes would be easy have clearly never played a pro player before. Just make expand then defense it | ||
NPF
Canada1635 Posts
On January 05 2013 08:48 templar rage wrote: Yeah, random people who think lasting 20 minutes would be easy have clearly never played a pro player before. It's easy just start the game with this chat : "no rush 20 kk?" And if he kills you before call him a nooby cheeser. But yeah 20 mins would be hard, I onced played a player from VT or was it VP in like season 1 on last temple and lasted 20 minutes in PvP and that was the best PvP in my life. So 20 minutes vs Idra would be something. | ||
Qikz
United Kingdom12010 Posts
Or in Idra's case just build a void ray proxy somewhere :p | ||
Lylat
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Defacer
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Kal_rA
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Topzerg
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On January 05 2013 08:34 RotterdaM wrote: :D haha funny comments so far ^_^ Pretty excited, make sure to drop by if you're in Town, should be a good time You gotta admit it wouldnt be too tough for a mid master player and up to come up with a build to last 20 minutes. In ZvZ, it's all about surviving ling/bane and hiding behind spines/roaches off 3 base before adding infestors. Pretty easy on a map like Antiga for example. Unless Idra rushes to BLs or Ultras it's pretty tough to break an infestor/roach/spine defensive position in ZvZ. Just my opinion, might be totally wrong though. Terran and Protoss players might have it a little bit harder though. | ||
Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On January 05 2013 09:01 Lylat wrote: What if you beat him under 20min ? Then you win. Don't know what you're going for here. You gotta admit it wouldnt be too tough for a mid master player and up to come up with a build to last 20 minutes. In ZvZ, it's all about surviving ling/bane and hiding behind spines/roaches off 3 base before adding infestors. Pretty easy on a map like Antiga for example. Unless Idra rushes to BLs or Ultras it's pretty tough to break an infestor/roach/spine defensive position in ZvZ. Just my opinion, might be totally wrong though. I don't think people realize how long 20 minutes actually is. | ||
mrRoflpwn
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MasterCynical
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syriuszonito
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tredogz
Canada170 Posts
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SLAYER29
United States50 Posts
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czaku
Poland429 Posts
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freytag
United States21 Posts
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
"Who can last 65 minutes against the EG team!?" Would be a bit less climactic | ||
GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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Dyme
Germany523 Posts
On January 05 2013 09:33 Zenbrez wrote: Are they having a dota version of this? "Who can last 65 minutes against the EG team!?" Would be a bit less climactic More like 35 minutes in DotA. Even that might be a bit high | ||
InsidiA
Canada1169 Posts
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Grimmyman123
Canada939 Posts
On January 05 2013 09:23 SLAYER29 wrote: float first CC into corner then wait? easy 2 base mutas and you lose easily in under the 20 minutes. | ||
j65536d
United States9 Posts
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Ogww
Finland224 Posts
On January 05 2013 09:05 Zenbrez wrote: Then you win. Don't know what you're going for here. I don't think people realize how long 20 minutes actually is. TvZ. CC first into PF at natural, fast tanks, mass OC into 13-14min max then mass PF Viking Tank. When zerg finally breaks your defenses, lift everything in the corners of the map to gain extra 3-4 minutes. Shouldn't be that hard for any masters player. | ||
jcroisdale
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spirates
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trGKakarot
United States129 Posts
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Aveng3r
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wklbishop
United States1286 Posts
On January 05 2013 10:45 jcroisdale wrote: Everyone commentating about cheese, LOL. Do you guys think Idra has ever been cheesed by lower levels players before? Who's everyone? I read two comments about how people are going to cheese idra (nothing about him failing to defend it) and one comment about Idra 6-pooling. That said. I wonder if I can survive on 2 base protoss for 20 minutes. Like hard core cannons and voidrays. Then build 2 warp prisms and with a few probes to build a few extractors/pylons here and there after my base gets totaled. | ||
bananagholem
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On January 05 2013 11:34 wklbishop wrote: Who's everyone? I read two comments about how people are going to cheese idra (nothing about him failing to defend it) and one comment about Idra 6-pooling. That said. I wonder if I can survive on 2 base protoss for 20 minutes. Like hard core cannons and voidrays. Then build 2 warp prisms and with a few probes to build a few extractors/pylons here and there after my base gets totaled. Why do that when you can go terran and lift all your buildings as a last resort lol. | ||
LingBlingBling
United States353 Posts
and I doubt any of you kids could last 20 mins with Idra, he has such good macro/mech unless you are a top GM player, gl with that, Idra can also kill you in early game with swift timings. | ||
Sein
United States1811 Posts
On January 05 2013 11:21 Aveng3r wrote: is it true that the owner of eg is the owner of the lectr account? No, the owner would be "ottersareneat" | ||
chris2423
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However players with the skill to hold out for 20 will likely just play the game legit and end up losing in under 20 because of it, and the ones who can win straight up vs idra would never play in this in the first place. | ||
LingBlingBling
United States353 Posts
On January 05 2013 12:23 chris2423 wrote: any protoss midmasters+ can do this easily. first, idra sucks vs protoss. second, 2 base immortal sentry allin that doesnt attack = gg unless idra allins before that (which is shut down by 2 cannons and a sentry) and he will need broodlord infestor to beat your 2 base sentry immortal, and broodlord infestor DPS's so slow that beating the 20 minute clock is just about impossible. However players with the skill to hold out for 20 will likely just play the game legit and end up losing in under 20 because of it, and the ones who can win straight up vs idra would never play in this in the first place. You don't know anything, Everyone in masters sucks @ doing the immortal sentry all in, i mean they suck so bad, I'm low gm on na, and every toss i encounter can't do it correctly, they always move out later, parting is really the only one who can pull it off @ 9 mins smooth. Idra has shown very good results recently for someone who does not play WOL anymore and only does HOTS. People just like to hate on him with out knowing anything about his play. | ||
chris2423
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On January 05 2013 12:25 LingBlingBling wrote: You don't know anything, Everyone in masters sucks @ doing the immortal sentry all in, i mean they suck so bad, I'm low gm on na, and every toss i encounter can't do it correctly, they always move out later, parting is really the only one who can pull it off @ 9 mins smooth. Idra has shown very good results recently for someone who does not play WOL anymore and only does HOTS. People just like to hate on him with out knowing anything about his play. okay bud lets not get all hostile. i didnt say they would beat him with sentry immortal, i said they could hold out with that comp. i know they cant do it correctly because im midmasters so i play against them. usually hits 1-2 minutes late. also i edited my post because i realized it isnt fair to say idra sucks vs protoss, what i meant to say is that its his worst matchup. executing it perfectly isnt the point, the point is that attacking into sentry immortal is damn near impossible. with anything but broodlords. MAYBE you could break it with ling/infestor/corruptor stephano style but turtled up with cannons i really doubt it. | ||
Sqorpion
Denmark384 Posts
Even saw a comment saying any plat+ can do it.. That must be a troll though, you gotta be REALLY good to survive 20 minutes. Did you look at the ingame clock? It might be faster than real time, but 20 minutes is a looooooong time vs IdrA.. | ||
LOLItsRyann
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mangomango
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chris2423
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On January 05 2013 12:31 Sqorpion wrote: Not sure if people are trolling or if they really think they stand a chance at surviving 20 minutes against IdrA.. Even saw a comment saying any plat+ can do it.. That must be a troll though, you gotta be REALLY good to survive 20 minutes. Did you look at the ingame clock? It might be faster than real time, but 20 minutes is a looooooong time vs IdrA.. if your zerg it might as well be an eternity, as terran you better be GM+ because 10-20 minute games are idra's thing. ling bling muta will rip a lower skilled player apart so fast its not even funny, only protoss really have a decent shot at playing a stalling game imo, and as far as a plat player making it, the only way that would happen is if idra fell asleep on the keyboard | ||
[Silverflame]
Germany640 Posts
On January 05 2013 12:40 mangomango wrote: Idra will be kicking butt and taking names! EG Fighting! Reggie anyone? ;D GL random gamer^^ | ||
EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On January 05 2013 12:40 chris2423 wrote: if your zerg it might as well be an eternity, as terran you better be GM+ because 10-20 minute games are idra's thing. ling bling muta will rip a lower skilled player apart so fast its not even funny, only protoss really have a decent shot at playing a stalling game imo, and as far as a plat player making it, the only way that would happen is if idra fell asleep on the keyboard Depends on the protoss' playstyle as well. Although I do think a high masters toss would have a very good shot at surviving 20 minutes if they plan ahead of time to play for that goal and that goal only. Of course, if the condition were changed somehow from "don't get eliminated in 20 minutes" to "don't be utterly fucked and would just be bm not to leave" in 20 minutes, then that'd be different. In that case I almost may as well be playing to win lol. I'm gonna have a good chuckle at those who think it will be ezpz (without themselves being too skilled) and then get their shit smashed in xD My PvZ was mid gm or higher on an average day, quite a bit better on good days with 1.5-2 hours of practice behind me, and I'm not even laughing at this condition as much as some random people in this thread are lol. | ||
Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On January 05 2013 09:23 SLAYER29 wrote: float first CC into corner then wait? And wait till you die at the 10 minute mark? | ||
fuzzylogic44
Canada2633 Posts
On January 05 2013 08:22 Zennith wrote: All you kids thinking you could last 20 minutes are kidding yourselves. Unless you're top masters/GM, you almost certainly won't make it. The problem is Zerg can't just roll over someone who is turtling no matter how far ahead they get, they need to wait for a giant T3 death army. If you just ringed your main with static defense you would last 20 against anyone who plays Z | ||
EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On January 05 2013 13:07 fuzzylogic44 wrote: The problem is Zerg can't just roll over someone who is turtling no matter how far ahead they get, they need to wait for a giant T3 death army. If you just ringed your main with static defense you would last 20 against anyone who plays Z I dunno about that, my average zvp was ~14:30 ingame time at low gm level lol (and Z's even my offrace) Granted usually on ladder people don't try to prolong shit with their last few units and wait to be fully eliminated through everything being killed. | ||
fuzzylogic44
Canada2633 Posts
On January 05 2013 13:11 EtherealDeath wrote: I dunno about that, my average zvp was ~14:30 ingame time at low gm level lol (and Z's even my offrace) Granted usually on ladder people don't try to prolong shit with their last few units and wait to be fully eliminated through everything being killed. I seriously think I at gold level could last 20 minutes against Idra if I knew that's all I had to do beforehand. The strategy I would use would have a 0% win rate even in the hands of professionals, but it would last 20 minutes. | ||
EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On January 05 2013 13:21 fuzzylogic44 wrote: I seriously think I at gold level could last 20 minutes against Idra if I knew that's all I had to do beforehand. The strategy I would use would have a 0% win rate even in the hands of professionals, but it would last 20 minutes. Uh, and what would that strategy be? | ||
wklbishop
United States1286 Posts
On January 05 2013 12:06 EtherealDeath wrote: Why do that when you can go terran and lift all your buildings as a last resort lol. Nah bro, terran last resort is scvs in a medivac or hidden someone ready to build a CC/refinery/depot right before idra destroys the last building for another extra ~10-20 seconds. Then rinse and repeat. But I'm just a protoss player and I was wondering if I could do that since I don't play terran. Plus, I figure I would have an easier time with 2 warp prisms filled with probes rather than 2 medivacs with scvs since the scv building needs to stay for the building to complete. Actually running around with a warp prism and probes to not have everything destroyed sounds like a fun minigame, someone should make. =D | ||
Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On January 05 2013 13:25 EtherealDeath wrote: Uh, and what would that strategy be? Doesn't matter tbh. At gold, you don't spend your money well enough to simply "have enough stuff" for strategy to matter. Mid master players can "have enough stuff" but not use it well enough to beat a pro. | ||
EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On January 05 2013 13:27 Zenbrez wrote: Doesn't matter tbh. At gold, you don't spend your money well enough to simply "have enough stuff" for strategy to matter. Mid master players can "have enough stuff" but not use it well enough to beat a pro. Well he seems to be pretty sure of himself lasting 20 minutes despite being gold, so I'm curious. Unless this is just Dunning-Kruger at play. | ||
Zenbrez
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chris2423
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On January 05 2013 13:30 EtherealDeath wrote: Well he seems to be pretty sure of himself lasting 20 minutes despite being gold, so I'm curious. Unless this is just Dunning-Kruger at play. probably something involving mass cannons or hiding tons of pylons that wouldnt work for obvious reasons | ||
jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On January 05 2013 13:35 jmbthirteen wrote: you guys realize that they want to give out prizes right? of course its not going to be an impossible task. Then they would look like dicks. ofc, advertising is advertising, you want ppl to get cases | ||
Insomni7
667 Posts
But seriously, anyone who is high masters could probably pull this off. Wish I was there... | ||
LuckyMacro
United States1482 Posts
On January 05 2013 13:21 fuzzylogic44 wrote: I seriously think I at gold level could last 20 minutes against Idra if I knew that's all I had to do beforehand. The strategy I would use would have a 0% win rate even in the hands of professionals, but it would last 20 minutes. LOL, I'm sorry but I'd really like to hear what you'd do. | ||
Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On January 05 2013 13:38 Insomni7 wrote: Every time my opponent offensively GGs, I play this game. Once I had 30 drones in overlords on Taldarim with a bank. I lasted 15 mins after the gg. xD But seriously, anyone who is high masters could probably pull this off. Wish I was there... The few times I've let them kill my whole base to kill me, they would usually decide to kill all but 1 building (intentionally, I wouldn't even hide anything), and try to wait me out. This one time I told them I was going to the gym.. I came back and he still didn't kill my building. O.o | ||
docvoc
United States5491 Posts
On January 05 2013 13:32 Zenbrez wrote: Idra is going to be aggressive, or at least doing strong timing attacks. It's HIS clock to kill you by 20 minutes, and you can bet he's not going to wait till the 19th minute mark to start attacking This is what a lot of people are neglecting to realize. IT IS HIS TIME, like you aren't going to kill idrA unless you are seriously a pro. A lot of people forget he is a pro and better than .1% total players in the world, 20 minutes and he has pro level macro and micro, along with pro level timing attacks. This is not passive idrA. | ||
Najda
United States3765 Posts
On January 05 2013 08:22 Zennith wrote: All you kids thinking you could last 20 minutes are kidding yourselves. Unless you're top masters/GM, you almost certainly won't make it. You never know. I remember at quakecon the only person who got a kill on fatal1ty to win some gear was some random girl who had no idea how to play the game beyond click = shoot. I'd never have a chance though, because I'd have to ZvZ him which never lasts 20 minutes anyway. | ||
Darpa
Canada4413 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On January 05 2013 14:09 BrokenMirage wrote: When they say 20 minute game, do they mean 20 real minutes or 20 Blizzard minutes. That would probably make a significant difference. Game. | ||
antihobo
Canada121 Posts
On January 05 2013 14:04 Najda wrote: You never know. I remember at quakecon the only person who got a kill on fatal1ty to win some gear was some random girl who had no idea how to play the game beyond click = shoot. I'd never have a chance though, because I'd have to ZvZ him which never lasts 20 minutes anyway. I agree, anything can happen. but I'd like to point out that this event is a different story in a FPS. All you have to do is sneeze and accidentally click at the right second. | ||
eviltomahawk
United States11132 Posts
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ChanmanV
United States1156 Posts
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Holdenintherye
Canada1441 Posts
And the floating buildings. | ||
Incanus
Canada695 Posts
On January 05 2013 14:04 Najda wrote: You never know. I remember at quakecon the only person who got a kill on fatal1ty to win some gear was some random girl who had no idea how to play the game beyond click = shoot. I'd never have a chance though, because I'd have to ZvZ him which never lasts 20 minutes anyway. I'm pretty sure that was in an FFA. | ||
ConGee
318 Posts
On January 05 2013 14:04 Najda wrote: You never know. I remember at quakecon the only person who got a kill on fatal1ty to win some gear was some random girl who had no idea how to play the game beyond click = shoot. I'd never have a chance though, because I'd have to ZvZ him which never lasts 20 minutes anyway. Using a FPS game isn't really a good comparison. I could probably get a kill on a pro FPS player given 100 chances. Given 100 chances to beat IdrA, I would win 0% of the time. | ||
Diks
Belgium1880 Posts
On January 05 2013 16:13 ConGee wrote: Using a FPS game isn't really a good comparison. I could probably get a kill on a pro FPS player given 100 chances. Given 100 chances to beat IdrA, I would win 0% of the time. Don't laugh at Quake3 competitive, you'll lose 500 times in a row against the best players. | ||
pindleskin
New Zealand199 Posts
I don't think anyone will be lasting 20 minutes | ||
docvoc
United States5491 Posts
On January 05 2013 16:38 pindleskin wrote: "Last in the cage for 1 minute with Cain Velasquez" I don't think anyone will be lasting 20 minutes Except idrA isn't beating the everloving shit out of every orface of your body, he is just making you feel mad cuz u bad . Bit of a difference between the two I'd say. | ||
Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On January 05 2013 16:32 Diks wrote: Don't laugh at Quake3 competitive, you'll lose 500 times in a row against the best players. While I believe you, you gotta give some credit to that chick | ||
phantomfive
Korea (South)404 Posts
Zerg - Idra is much better at scouting than you are. You will not be able to hide anything from him. So what are you going to do? Wall in with spine crawlers? He'll see that and hit you with mutalisks. Whatever army composition you choose, he'll see it and choose the best counter. And even if you somehow get lucky and manage to trick him, his micro is so much better than yours that he'll still win. Protoss - How good is your FFE? Will you be even be able to stop his first few zerglings from killing you? If you are even ten seconds late on your cannon, you might lose right away. If you try an immortal/sentry turtle, he can destroy you with mutalisks. As soon as you move out of your base, there will be zerglings inside tearing it down. If you try to hold with only two bases, remember he'll have four by the 11 minute mark. Terran - as soon as he sees you're turtling, he'll see what you're doing and drone up. He'll see he can build the infestation pit at 8 minutes, which means hive will be done around 10 minutes, and greater spire around 11:45. You're going to have 3000 minerals worth of brood lords in your base by 13 minutes. How will you handle that? That's assuming he doesn't completely destroy you with a mutalisk harassment at the 8 minute mark. He will destroy every slightly misplaced building, he will pick off your SCVs, and as soon as your thors get out of position he will destroy them too. If anyone were around here to bet with my, I'd bet $20 that no one will last who is less than grandmaster. Also, if you try some stupid cheese, he will scout it and beat it. Unless your name is Gaulzi, you're not going to beat Idra with a cannon rush, he expects it. | ||
AdrianHealey
Belgium480 Posts
(High) masters might make it if they are terran and turtle sufficiently enough, I think. Although, 'turtling' enough might mean that idra just takes the whole map and has broodlord/corrupter/infestor at your door at like 13 minutes in. | ||
Dismay
United States1180 Posts
On January 05 2013 06:49 KarlKaliente wrote: Like they would ever throw idra in PL... they already have taeja hero stephano JD puma JYP revival zenio... Far too much talent between the teams to be reaching so far I'll give you everyone but Zenio. He's not that great. | ||
figq
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Rassy
Netherlands2308 Posts
Asuming a normal game i have no change, as terran i would try 1 or 2 base with bunkers tanks and vikings turrets and just let him try break it,you can get to 200-200 or verry close on 1 base as terran and you realy only need 1 tank attack upgrade. I dont see how he can go up the ramp if its blocked by a pf, coverd by 10 tanks. vikings+turrets+one thor, maybe 1 raven or 2 for pdd should be able to kill all air. Eventually he will break but i hope it will take him to long. This or maybe the mass rax 1 base marine followed by a turtle. Hope they do something against lifting buildings, or people playing till the last building killed in a completely lost position. Maybe players will have the respect to not try such things. | ||
Godwrath
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OrD_SC2
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Ethi
Germany275 Posts
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Blue_Hinds
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
On January 05 2013 17:00 phantomfive wrote: To all those people who think they can survive playing at a gold league level, you really need to rethink this. What exactly are you going to do? At any point in the game, your army is guaranteed to be smaller than his unless you are high masters. Here is how your plan will fail with each race: Zerg - Idra is much better at scouting than you are. You will not be able to hide anything from him. So what are you going to do? Wall in with spine crawlers? He'll see that and hit you with mutalisks. Whatever army composition you choose, he'll see it and choose the best counter. And even if you somehow get lucky and manage to trick him, his micro is so much better than yours that he'll still win. Protoss - How good is your FFE? Will you be even be able to stop his first few zerglings from killing you? If you are even ten seconds late on your cannon, you might lose right away. If you try an immortal/sentry turtle, he can destroy you with mutalisks. As soon as you move out of your base, there will be zerglings inside tearing it down. If you try to hold with only two bases, remember he'll have four by the 11 minute mark. Terran - as soon as he sees you're turtling, he'll see what you're doing and drone up. He'll see he can build the infestation pit at 8 minutes, which means hive will be done around 10 minutes, and greater spire around 11:45. You're going to have 3000 minerals worth of brood lords in your base by 13 minutes. How will you handle that? That's assuming he doesn't completely destroy you with a mutalisk harassment at the 8 minute mark. He will destroy every slightly misplaced building, he will pick off your SCVs, and as soon as your thors get out of position he will destroy them too. If anyone were around here to bet with my, I'd bet $20 that no one will last who is less than grandmaster. Also, if you try some stupid cheese, he will scout it and beat it. Unless your name is Gaulzi, you're not going to beat Idra with a cannon rush, he expects it. You make a fair point. 20 minutes is a LOT longer than one might think. Basically, 20 minutes in the game you're probably in the ultra-lategame phase as zerg, especially if the enemy is turtling. You've usually already got your hive tech and now it's just time to build your jesus army along with maybe a spine/spore wall. This is by no means a simple challenge. I think it might actually be harder to survive 20 minutes than it would be to beat him, if only because people are probably going to go about it the wrong way initially. No way anyone below mid/high master is going to even have a chance. | ||
jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
do i still win prize? | ||
WeRRa
378 Posts
On January 09 2013 09:02 Ethi wrote: I don't think IdrA will survive 20 mins against players with no self respect-race. Just kill your own CC and you win. | ||
Extenz
Italy822 Posts
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Lokerek
United States441 Posts
On January 09 2013 09:21 jinorazi wrote: what if i contain idra to one or two base, dont let him expand, starve him, dont attack...and he gg in 15 minutes. do i still win prize? Fair Question. Might as well 6 pool him and kill all drones and leave hatchery alive for 20 minutes | ||
nebula.
Sweden1431 Posts
On January 09 2013 09:50 Lokerek wrote: Fair Question. Might as well 6 pool him and kill all drones and leave hatchery alive for 20 minutes you really think you could kill all IdrA's drones with a 6 pool? lol | ||
liquidoa
82 Posts
Or is it not streamed? | ||
shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
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SoBeDragon
United States192 Posts
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PiQLiQ
Sweden702 Posts
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On January 05 2013 13:07 fuzzylogic44 wrote: The problem is Zerg can't just roll over someone who is turtling no matter how far ahead they get, they need to wait for a giant T3 death army. If you just ringed your main with static defense you would last 20 against anyone who plays Z Any good Zerg who sees what you're doing will just get as many bases and gases ASAP and would probably have maxed out Broodlords on your base by minute 13.... | ||
Mystgun
Hong Kong311 Posts
First and foremost, you are playing in real minutes, not game minutes. If you beat him you will also win, but with an unfamiliar setup, pressure from playing in front of an audience, and his starpower, that's probably not going to happen. He will let you decide his race and he definitely doesn't play balls-to-the-wall SC2. He is nice enough to play pretty passively for the first 10 minutes before taking things up a notch at the halfway mark. I saw a timesheet that an attendee was holding and most people die off about 11-13 minutes. He does gradually increase his level of aggression but I think he also wants to give the challenger a decent chance of survival. I was personally too starstruck to even play properly but I did have a pretty good time. Thanks IdrA! Also great to meet RotterdaM, who was somehow able to cast the game and have multiple side conversations at the same time... | ||
Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On January 11 2013 03:46 Mystgun wrote: I got to play against IdrA on Tuesday. Such an honor to be able to play him! First and foremost, you are playing in real minutes, not game minutes. If you beat him you will also win, but with an unfamiliar setup, pressure from playing in front of an audience, and his starpower, that's probably not going to happen. He will let you decide his race and he definitely doesn't play balls-to-the-wall SC2. He is nice enough to play pretty passively for the first 10 minutes before taking things up a notch at the halfway mark. I saw a timesheet that an attendee was holding and most people die off about 11-13 minutes. He does gradually increase his level of aggression but I think he also wants to give the challenger a decent chance of survival. I was personally too starstruck to even play properly but I did have a pretty good time. Thanks IdrA! Also great to meet RotterdaM, who was somehow able to cast the game and have multiple side conversations at the same time... Haha, sounds like a good time | ||
phantomfive
Korea (South)404 Posts
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Korea (South)3851 Posts
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
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NexCa
Germany954 Posts
On January 05 2013 06:38 erw wrote: mass cannons!! Mass Sentrys ! | ||
Extenz
Italy822 Posts
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ElemenoMe
United Kingdom1 Post
I'm someone who's being continously banned based off of a single ban months ago for being curious about maphacks in sc2 and using one in a game and admitting to it. Then, the notoriously ban crazy Plexa (who I've seen other mods alter his bans in the past because of this) perma banned me because it may have cost someone 10 ladder points temporarily on battle.net. This was not a policy I was aware of, it goes without saying. I''m not going to stop creating content and accounts for MY HOME online because of this. This is my community online as much as anything is and sc2 is the only game I play. I never meant anyone harm obviously and these accounts are merely an act of necessity in my eyes to post the same as I always have (not that I'm not always aiming to better my posts.) I believe it's been too long and I should just be unbanned. This is silly. User was banned for this post. | ||
viasacra89
United States134 Posts
On January 31 2013 10:32 ElemenoMe wrote: Hey! Sorry to post here, new accounts cannot create threads. Hope it doesn't get in anybody's way. I'm someone who's being continously banned based off of a single ban months ago for being curious about maphacks in sc2 and using one in a game and admitting to it. Then, the notoriously ban crazy Plexa (who I've seen other mods alter his bans in the past because of this) perma banned me because it may have cost someone 10 ladder points temporarily on battle.net. This was not a policy I was aware of, it goes without saying. I''m not going to stop creating content and accounts for MY HOME online because of this. This is my community online as much as anything is and sc2 is the only game I play. I never meant anyone harm obviously and these accounts are merely an act of necessity in my eyes to post the same as I always have (not that I'm not always aiming to better my posts.) I believe it's been too long and I should just be unbanned. This is silly. User was banned for this post. It's not only the mods, we don't want you here either. You call this your community but you come in and spam us all with your story. You broke the rules, inadvertently or not so suffer in silence. Your refusal to follow the rules and childish attitude are like cancer to communities like this. TLDR: Fuck off | ||
Innovation
United States284 Posts
lol i'd just play standard and beat him It's such an honor to see such an accomplished and well known player posting in the forums...oh wait, who are you? To you and anyone else saying this. IF you have on the rare occasion won against Idra on ladder it's highly unlikely you were playing "standard" or that he wasn't working on a particular build which you happened to get lucky against. If you aren't a well known top tier player and you're saying Idra "ez pz" than you're obviously just trolling cause it takes less than half a brain to know that you're lying or just insane. Don't pretend like you're better than Idra. Nobody believes you. | ||
bretfart
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Extenz
Italy822 Posts
On January 31 2013 14:58 Innovation wrote: It's such an honor to see such an accomplished and well known player posting in the forums...oh wait, who are you? To you and anyone else saying this. IF you have on the rare occasion won against Idra on ladder it's highly unlikely you were playing "standard" or that he wasn't working on a particular build which you happened to get lucky against. If you aren't a well known top tier player and you're saying Idra "ez pz" than you're obviously just trolling cause it takes less than half a brain to know that you're lying or just insane. Don't pretend like you're better than Idra. Nobody believes you. dude that was a joke considering everyone called idra bad cause he hasn't accomplished anything for a while, ofc I can't beat him, just chill bro. | ||
Brainyac
Germany199 Posts
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Littlemuff
United Kingdom301 Posts
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AdrianHealey
Belgium480 Posts
On January 31 2013 22:22 Littlemuff wrote: GO Toss. Cannon up on 1 or 2 base. and mass air. As soon as the BL come in, air the crap out of him. Play it like that single player mission where you do the last stand as Protoss. 1 base pure cannon: you use mass baneling/ultralisk through it. That ain't so hard. | ||
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