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Question: Where does Flash rank in SC2? - Page 11
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Poland6595 Posts
This is like Genki Dama, he is now cumulating it, while now its nothing special but when he finishes it... | ||
vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On January 07 2013 17:37 ThePhan2m wrote: Up / Down system is pretty lame. They should change the system there to a Winners / Losers format. Code A IS that format already. U&D is more a second chance type deal. And the reason there are groups of 6 is to try to avoid 'bad' draws like you can in Code A format. | ||
Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
We can expect a lot from him! If he doesn't follow through, it will be a big disappointment, so that's the burden he carries. | ||
X3GoldDot
Malaysia3840 Posts
best of the best still remain in code S like Mvp. its just the low code S - high code A players that generally are stuck in the limbo | ||
KanoCoke
Japan863 Posts
He seems to be really good with MLG-style and all-kill type of tournaments due to his endurance though. | ||
Olli
Austria24413 Posts
On January 07 2013 17:43 Shinta) wrote: I'd say he's Code S material, but he's not top Code S. He was unlucky to get that group, but him losing was still a little bad of him. He deserves to stay in Code A for now, but he can break through at any moment. We can expect a lot from him! If he doesn't follow through, it will be a big disappointment, so that's the burden he carries. There's no lucky groups in Up/Downs but he definitely didn't get unlucky with his group. Look at group C, that would've been unlucky. I agree on the rank though, he's somewhere between Code A and Code S. A little too inconsistent maybe. Goes from all killing EGTL and looking amazing throughout to getting bopped by 2 stalkers from MC. | ||
Ch3rry
Poland202 Posts
MC won against: Jaedong, Flash, YongHwa MC lost against: YoDa, Vampire Flash won against: Revival, HerO, TaeJa, JYP, Vampire, YongHwa, YoDa Flash lost against: Jaedong, MC So MC is Code S material and Flash is not? IMHO Flash is at least mid-Code S level. It just happened that Yoda, MC and JD are also on mid-Code S level and they all got into same group. And as I said earlier, Flash is the only player that has to play NINE games yesterday. EDIT: Also You can't really say that Flash performed much worse than MC and JD, as they all were on 3:2 record, but tie-breaker was against Flash this time. | ||
Pimpmuckl
Germany528 Posts
I was really impressed by his play so far, definitely a great addition to the proleague roster! As for flash i give him 5 more months, then he should have the skills to judge if he wants to show mercy or not.. | ||
Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On January 07 2013 17:55 DarkLordOlli wrote: There's no lucky groups in Up/Downs but he definitely didn't get unlucky with his group. Look at group C, that would've been unlucky. I agree on the rank though, he's somewhere between Code A and Code S. A little too inconsistent maybe. Goes from all killing EGTL and looking amazing throughout to getting bopped by 2 stalkers from MC. Look at group D, that would have been lucky. Although I'm obviously happy that Fantasy got that group instead. As for Flash, it's pretty harsh to judge a player who had to play in two competitions that stretched for hours. It was pretty much like Taeja vs IM for him yesterday, if not harder. | ||
AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On January 07 2013 17:59 Ch3rry wrote: Here is some comparision between Flash and MC from Yesterday: MC won against: Jaedong, Flash, YongHwa MC lost against: YoDa, Vampire Flash won against: Revival, HerO, TaeJa, JYP, Vampire, YongHwa, YoDa Flash lost against: Jaedong, MC So MC is Code S material and Flash is not? IMHO Flash is at least mid-Code S level. It just happened that Yoda, MC and JD are also on mid-Code S level and they all got into same group. And as I said earlier, Flash is the only player that has to play NINE games yesterday. EDIT: Also You can't really say that Flash performed much worse than MC and JD, as they all were on 3:2 record, but tie-breaker was against Flash this time. So MC, Jaedong, Yoda and Flash are all Mid-Code S level, i see. | ||
SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On January 07 2013 13:55 Dodgin wrote: I have no idea what this has to do with what you said originally, but to answer your question, winning GSL means you are the best player in that season. Since the GSL is the hardest league it makes you the best player until the next season. Sure, Flash could win games in code s and go far potentially, why not. I just don't understand why you said GSL doesn't show the best players, because the best player ( Life ) is in Code S, and winning GSL twice made him the best player. From the limited games I've seen of Flash, his macro can look almost unparalleled. Let me clarify, Flash as of this instant might not be a top25 player in the world. BUT I think his mechanics easily give him of the strongest foundations of any SC2 player out there. My top 5 for Terran would probably look something like Flash, Fantasy, BaBy, Bogus, Taeja. Sorry to the eSF Terrans but I really think they will be surpassed once these guys fully flesh out their game knowledge and star2 sense. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51300 Posts
He was quite good vs EGTL the other night, but in first game he should not of won it imo, Revival lost it rather than Flash winning it. However, that was probably down to Flash being absolutely everywhere on the map and causing Revival to be dragged all over the place whilst Flash just macro'd his army back up to max. He did a similar thing vs Hero where he might of lost but he didn't due to his insane macro and his ability to be everywhere. He shows some frailties in TvT too, but he was pretty good overall vs Taeja. He stood up to the pressure of what Taeja was throwing at him and he with stood that and then flipped the roles pretty quickly and effortlessly. In BO1 at the Up/Downs he did not fair to well either, but he did beat Yoda in TvT to inflict his first defeat. Overall: He has the potential to be better than MVP was in WOL in HOTS, but he came in to late to WOL to have any major effect in it. HOTS is where he is going to need to be on it from the get go, so i do hope he is playing the beta and the KESPA training isn't focused all on WOL or they will be again behind. | ||
Grend
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Surili
United Kingdom1141 Posts
People don't seems to be talking about this facet enough :/ | ||
BoxingKangaroo
Japan955 Posts
On January 07 2013 18:22 Grend wrote: not too long until code s becomes a bad metric imo What will replace it? Still has the best players and the best format. I personally don't think the BO1 teamleagues on imbalanced strange maps should be given much weight if that's where you're headed. | ||
Olli
Austria24413 Posts
On January 07 2013 18:34 BoxingKangaroo wrote: What will replace it? Still has the best players and the best format. I personally don't think the BO1 teamleagues on imbalanced strange maps should be given much weight if that's where you're headed. Cannot quote this enough. Flash did play amazingly vs EGTL, especially the game vs HerO impressed me but as you said, it's a Bo1. GSL is the hardest championship for a reason. | ||
-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Is he overhyped/overrated? Yes. Of course. He's a KeSPA pro who was one of the best BW players ever. He was being overhyped before he even started playing SC2 (see that old elephant article, absolutely ridiculous looking back on it). Is he really just an average Code A calibre player, overhyped by previous accomplishments? I'd place him as a U&D staple at the moment, with a possibility to maybe sneak into a Code S RO32. He's good enough to get through the average Code A knockout player, and good enough to take the odd game off Code S level competition, but not good enough to consistently win enough. He's probably good enough to perhaps win another tournament like KeSPA's proleague or MLG or something, but this is GSL Code S we're talking about. It is the premier SC2 competition and it doesn't get any harder. Is he a projected player to become top-tier amongst the current SC2 crop of players? Probably, yes. Based on what I've heard of him he has an amazing work ethic and if you look at his play you can see the raw talent to be a very good player is there. He just needs time and practice. | ||
NeWeNiyaLord
Norway2474 Posts
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Dirkinity
Germany409 Posts
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