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opterown
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Hi all,
So you guys might remember my thread a few months back about getting up Live Reports and updating them in a timely manner!
With WCS on the horizon, soon we will have a lot on our hands in terms of threads to make! Since we can like 3-5 events somedays with WCS, SPL, GSTL, GSL and all that to Live Report, a few others and myself thought it would be a good idea to get some sort of schedule going. The events that we'll sort in this schedule will include:
- WCS KR - SPL - GSTL - WCS EU - WCS AM - Other premier events (e.g. weekend tournaments) These are the events with multiple days' worth of games and a consistent schedule.
Pretty much, I (or someone else) premake all the LRs in this thread here: SC2 LR Resources. I should be able to get them up well before the event.
You can take a look at this google document. It has a list of events with pre-made LR OPs and when the events are on.
Column G (Poster) is where you can sign up to take care of the LR thread for that day! Just check the google document periodically and if you notice an event without a designated poster yet, feel free to add yourself to it! You can see, for example, Wintex has volunteered for the GSTL thread in two days' time.
Hopefully we will be able to get LR threads for all these events a day in advance - it really does help to have an earlier LR thread.
I welcome any feedback on how you guys think this system will work! The document and this system are both still very much works in progress.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22271 Posts
Live Report Threads: A tutorial on how to be OP
An Introduction + Show Spoiler +The Live Report Thread is an important part of the SC2 community. Hundreds if not thousands of people check them every single day to keep tabs on their favorite players, teams and tournaments. However these threads don't magically appear. They aren't supported by Blizz. The tournament organizers don't make LR threads. We, the TL.net community, need to make LR threads ourselves. A dedicated bunch of bored, handsome, intelligent dudes prepare, post, and handle the LR threads. They are all volunteers doing this for the love of the game, but they need help too. The LR Crew is always looking for new, responsible, and equally handsome and intelligent posters to handle LR threads. However, not everyone is born a LR bonjwa, so here is a tutorial for everyone interested in contributing.
A Live Report OP's Main Tasks + Show Spoiler +A LR thread seems daunting to handle but it's actually quite easy, albeit time consuming. You have the following main tasks: - Copy the OP from the SC2 LR Resources thread
- Make a new thread, preferrably a day or two (if the match is important--say a semi final) in advance, with the same title as the OP
- Post Pre-Game Polls for expected match results (Head vs Heart, Who's making it out, MVP of the day, best matchup, etc)
- Update the results of each match, spoilered in the OP
- Write down the succeeding matches
- Make a poll for recommended games after each match
- Link to the match Live Report, if available
(Optional: Write a live report or recap of each match)
Optional Tasks + Show Spoiler +There are other possible tasks, such as:
1. Linking to alternative streaming options: GOMtv or OGN, Twitch or Gomplayer, etc. 2. Updating the kpop LR if you are knowledgeable or if someone is available to do it 3. Providing information in the OP if there are important announcements made during the broadcast (schedule changes, player situations, etc.) that affect the tournament 4. Changing the OP banner if someone provides a better one
That's a lot to do, but most of these tasks are done before the day begins or after each match. You'll still be able to enjoy the games and not be too stressed out. The important thing is to post the thread in a timely manner, and update the results for each match as soon as they finish.
Step by Step Tutorial
1. Copying from the SC2 LR Resources thread + Show Spoiler +All the OPs will be made well in advance, likely by opterown, nooboon, Shellbot, or someone else. All you have to do is copy it. First, go to the "SC2 LR Resources" thread in SC2 Tourneys. Look for the appropriate OP in one of the last pages, and press Quote. Copy the entire post EXCEPT for the initial quote tags and the ending quote tag. They look like this: So copy everything except that first line and that last line. Don't worry if you make a mistake, you can still edit out these sections while you are posting a new thread.
2. Posting the LR Thread + Show Spoiler +Now, once you have the OP copied, go to SC2 Tourneys and Create a New Topic. Paste the OP into the Message portion of the new topic form. Now, the topic title should be the same as the OP title seen at the top. Simply copy it without the bbcode tags and paste it into the title. The thread title will look something like this: [GSTL] Ax-Acer vs. FXOpen 2013 Season 1 They will usually be formatted in this way for Group Stages: "[Tournament Name] RoX Group Y Year Subtitle Season #" where X is the "Round of" number, Y is the group letter, and # is the season number. The Subtitle will depened. Currently for GSL, the subtitle is WCS Korea. For MLG and ESL WCS tournaments, the subtitles will be WCS North America and WCS Europe, respectively. For individual matches (quarters, semis, and finals) they will be formatted like this: "[Tournament Name] Stage PlayerA vs PlayerB Year Subtitle Season#" where Stage is the stage in the competition (quarter finals, semi finals, finals), while Players A and B are the players involved. For Team matches, the format will be the following: "[Tournament Name] Stage TeamA vs TeamB Year Subtitle Season#" where Stage is the stage in the competition (group stages, quarters, Round number etc), Team A and B are the teams involved. Team leagues usually do not have Subtitles, but the sponsor of the league might appear as the subtitle. This title is usually the very first line of the OP after the Quote tags: Make sure not to include the BBcode tags! But in case you make a mistake, you can inform a mod to change the topic title. Just don't let it happen often or they might get annoyed :o
3. Making and Posting the Pre-Game Polls + Show Spoiler +Immediately after posting the thread, it is prudent to post another message (any message, typically just "polls") to reserve the second post for polls and other material. After reserving the second post, start creating the appropriate polls. To create a poll, click on "Add Poll" in the Message Submit form. This will take you to another tab that looks like this: Enter the main poll question and all the appropriate options. The main questions are: Winner - Head vs Heart Final Score Best Match of the Day You can also add questions such as: Will a streak continue Do you want to see X and Y in the Ace Match Will Artosis Curse doom Bogus The Options should be as complete as possible, with no bias. If you need more spaces to enter more options, click on Add More Options. Once you are done, click on the "Create Poll and Generate BBcode" button, which will lead you to the following page: That's the BBcode for the poll. Return to the second post where you intend to put the polls and EDIT that post. Simply paste all the Poll BBcodes one by one. Here are examples of polls that appear in this section: + Show Spoiler [Group Stages] +Poll: Head?Innovation & Rain (130) 73% Innovation & Gumiho (20) 11% Innovation & Hyun (17) 9% Rain & Hyun (6) 3% Hyun & Gumiho (4) 2% Rain & Gumiho (2) 1% 179 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): Innovation & Rain (Vote): Innovation & Hyun (Vote): Innovation & Gumiho (Vote): Rain & Hyun (Vote): Rain & Gumiho (Vote): Hyun & Gumiho
Poll: Heart?Innovation & Rain (87) 46% Innovation & Gumiho (49) 26% Hyun & Gumiho (21) 11% Rain & Gumiho (13) 7% Innovation & Hyun (11) 6% Rain & Hyun (8) 4% 189 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): Innovation & Rain (Vote): Innovation & Hyun (Vote): Innovation & Gumiho (Vote): Rain & Hyun (Vote): Rain & Gumiho (Vote): Hyun & Gumiho
+ Show Spoiler [Team Leagues] +Poll: Winner?Woongjin Stars (13) 72% Team 8 (5) 28% 18 total votes Your vote: Winner? (Vote): Team 8 (Vote): Woongjin Stars
Poll: Final Score?[Team 8] 2 - 4 [Woongjin Stars] (8) 33% [Team 8] 4 - 3 [Woongjin Stars] (4) 17% [Team 8] 1 - 4 [Woongjin Stars] (4) 17% [Team 8] 4 - 1 [Woongjin Stars] (3) 13% [Team 8] 0 - 4 [Woongjin Stars] (2) 8% [Team 8] 3 - 4 [Woongjin Stars] (2) 8% [Team 8] 4 - 2 [Woongjin Stars] (1) 4% [Team 8] 4 - 0 [Woongjin Stars] (0) 0% 24 total votes Your vote: Final Score? (Vote): [Team 8] 4 - 0 [Woongjin Stars] (Vote): [Team 8] 4 - 1 [Woongjin Stars] (Vote): [Team 8] 4 - 2 [Woongjin Stars] (Vote): [Team 8] 4 - 3 [Woongjin Stars] (Vote): [Team 8] 0 - 4 [Woongjin Stars] (Vote): [Team 8] 1 - 4 [Woongjin Stars] (Vote): [Team 8] 2 - 4 [Woongjin Stars] (Vote): [Team 8] 3 - 4 [Woongjin Stars]
Poll: Best Match of the Day?Argo (Jaehoon) vs ZerO (8) 47% Cure vs Soulkey (7) 41% TY (BaBy) vs free (2) 12% Savage vs Light (0) 0% Terminator (Sang) vs sOs (sHy) (0) 0% ALBM (check) vs Flying (0) 0% 17 total votes Your vote: Best Match of the Day? (Vote): Cure vs Soulkey (Vote): Argo (Jaehoon) vs ZerO (Vote): Savage vs Light (Vote): Terminator (Sang) vs sOs (sHy) (Vote): ALBM (check) vs Flying (Vote): TY (BaBy) vs free
After posting polls, if other members of the community have made hype banners, interesting hype posts, videos, and other 'relevant' material, you can add it to this section, but remember to SPOILER it so that people who don't want to see it don't have to. That's basically all the set up you need to do for the LR thread.
4. Updating Match Results + Show Spoiler +The main purpose of the LR thread, aside from being a place to talk about the games, is to provide information about the results of the games. Not everyone can watch live, and not everyone can watch even though they are on a computer. The LR thread is an important resource to the community, and that's why this duty has to be taken seriously. Updating match results is simple: Simply Bold the winner. To do this, you must EDIT the OP every time a game finishes. Click Edit. Now, if you aren't used to coding, the BBcode can look a bit confusing. However, the tags are rather self explanatory. What you want to do is to look for the match that just concluded, highlight the player (including his tlpd tag), and use the automatic Bold button in the message tools. Now people will know who the winner is. Here is an example: It is important to include the tlpd tags, or else the tagging won't work. Finding the player's name can be confusing because of all the BBcode, but you will get used to it quickly. This must be done for both the SPOILER FREE and OVERALL RESULTS sections. Some people like seeing the whole picture, some people hate spoilers. This ensures that both camps are satisfied, but it means more work for you T_T The easiest way to immediately find each section is to use your browser's find function (Ctrl+f for firefox). Search for "spoiler-free" and update the results there. Then find "overall results" and update the results there as well. Again, this will take some getting used to because of the BBcodes, but don't worry. If it's your first time, try to experiment with the OP a few times before the games begin (but make sure to return it to the default state before it starts!).
5. Writing Down the Succeeding Matches + Show Spoiler +Not all matches are set in stone. For the Group Stages of GSL, only the first 2 matches are set. The Winners, Losers, and Final matches are still to be decided. In GSTL, only the opening players are known. In Proleague, the Ace Player is still unknown. This means that when the succeeding, previously unknown matches are determined, you must fill in this new information into the OP. Once again, this must be done for both the Spoiler Free and Overall Results sections. There are four steps in writing down the next matches i. Look for the appropriate place to write down the next match ii. Write down the players' names iii. Write down the map they will play on iv. TLPD-ize the players and the map The trickiest part for those new to doing the LR thread is finding the appropriate place and using TLPD. If you have been watching the games, it shouldn't be much of a problem to look for where to place the next game. Naturally, it will be in the space immediately after the game that was just concluded. In this case, once Symbol and Hack are done playing their game and the next player and map have been chosen, you will write down the next players and map in the space marked by the red box. The matches are written like this: Player A
6. Make A Poll for Recommended Games + Show Spoiler +To aid people who can't watch live decide whether or not they should watch the matches, we have recommended game polls after each match. Once a game is concluded, use the Add Poll button. In the Main poll question, simply write "Recommend Match Game X?", where Match is the Match at hand (Team A vs Team B, Player A vs Player B) and X is the game number in the series. The options are typically "Yes", "No", and "If you have time". You can be more creative with your options, but make sure there are no obvious spoilers. Remember that people hate spoilers, so even the Poll Questions need to be Spoiler-Free. This means that most games must be titled ambiguously (no player names for Team Leagues, no player names for Losers, Winners, and Final matches for Group Stage games). Example: + Show Spoiler [Recommended Games] ++ Show Spoiler [INnoVation vs. Rain] +Poll: Recommend Innovation vs Rain Game 1?Yes (19) 61% No (6) 19% If you have time (6) 19% 31 total votes Your vote: Recommend Innovation vs Rain Game 1? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Innovation vs Rain Game 2?Yes (12) 40% No (12) 40% If you have time (6) 20% 30 total votes Your vote: Recommend Innovation vs Rain Game 2? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Innovation vs Rain Game 3?Yes (28) 53% No (13) 25% If you have time (12) 23% 53 total votes Your vote: Recommend Innovation vs Rain Game 3? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
+ Show Spoiler [HyuN vs. GuMiho] +Poll: Recommend Hyun vs Gumiho Game 1?No (16) 59% Yes (10) 37% If you have time (1) 4% 27 total votes Your vote: Recommend Hyun vs Gumiho Game 1? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Hyun vs Gumiho Game 2?No (16) 67% Yes (6) 25% If you have time (2) 8% 24 total votes Your vote: Recommend Hyun vs Gumiho Game 2? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Hyun vs Gumiho Game 3?No (12) 57% Yes (7) 33% If you have time (2) 10% 21 total votes Your vote: Recommend Hyun vs Gumiho Game 3? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
+ Show Spoiler [Winners' Match] +Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1?Yes (59) 97% No (2) 3% If you have time (0) 0% 61 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2?Yes (14) 52% No (9) 33% If you have time (4) 15% 27 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?Yes (20) 83% If you have time (3) 13% No (1) 4% 24 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
+ Show Spoiler [Losers' Match] +Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 1?Yes (51) 91% If you have time (3) 5% No (2) 4% 56 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 1? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2?Yes (25) 71% No (8) 23% If you have time (2) 6% 35 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?Yes (17) 61% No (7) 25% If you have time (4) 14% 28 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
+ Show Spoiler [Final Match] +Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 1?No (19) 73% Yes (6) 23% If you have time (1) 4% 26 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?Yes (12) 63% No (6) 32% If you have time (1) 5% 19 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?Yes (6) 35% If you have time (6) 35% No (5) 29% 17 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
It is also imperative to post polls for games that weren't actually played. These are Anti-Spoiler polls. If there are only 2 recommended game polls in a best of 3, it hints at the fact that there were only 2 games (and thus a 2-0). By always having a complete set of recommended game polls, we avoid having this kind of spoiler. So always have 3 polls for Best of 3s, 7 for Best of 7s, etc. Post the anti spoiler polls in the thread after the series has concluded. After posting the Poll in the thread, remember to add the Poll to the OP so that people can have easier access to it. The Poll section is usually the last section in the OP (unless there are VOD links, then it will be the penultimate section) so it should be pretty easy to find. TIP: It can get tedious making recommended game polls after every game. One suggestion is to premake all the polls, keep them in a text document, and just copy and paste the polls once the appropriate game has ended. This will give you less to do during the games since they are all already prepared.
7. Linking to the Match Live Report + Show Spoiler +On occasion (usually when Shellbot is around), someone will write a live report of the games for the folks who can't watch. They went through the trouble of typing out the games so they deserve to be part of the OP. Once a LR for the game is done, click the # button on the upper right corner of the post. This is the "permalink" button, which will reload the page. You will notice that the page url now includes #[numbers]. This is the post number in the thread, which links directly to this post. Copy this url and paste it in the Live Report section of the OP. It looks something like this: You must paste it after "url=". That's it. If no one is around to do write down LRs, you can do it yourself. However it can be difficult to do LRs and handle the thread at the same time. You can try it once you get the hang of it. If no one does a LR and you are up to it, you can write an unbiased recap of the game for the LR. This is much easier than a full LR. Here are some sample LRs or recaps: + Show Spoiler +On April 17 2013 18:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 18:30 Shellshock1122 wrote:On April 17 2013 18:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:On April 17 2013 18:23 Shellshock1122 wrote:On April 17 2013 18:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00 INnoVation spawns in the bottom right Rain spawns in the top left 2:00 CC first on the low ground for Innovation Nexus first for Rain gateway for Rain rax for Innovation 3:00 2nd rax for Innovation double gas for Rain Cybernetics core for Rain bunker in the natural for Innovation zealot for Rain 4:00 probe scout is denied by the bunker before it can see the natural CC mothership core for Rain 3rd rax for Innovation Robo for Rain 5:00 double gas for Innovation Innovation scouts the main of Rain tech lab for Innovation marines of Innovation move out ot the watchtower and almost kill the zealot of Rain 6:00 3rd gas for Rain ebay for Innovation stim research started for Innovation 2 more gates for Rain +1 attack started for Innovation 2 observers before anything else out of the robo for Rain factory for innovation 7:00 double forge for Rain 3rd CC for Innovation Robotics bay for Rain Marauder production underway for Innovation 1-1 started for Rain 8:00 twilight council for Rain first observer of Rain is killed Starport for Innovation Colossus production started for Rain 3 more gates for Rain combat shields for Innovation 9:00 reactored medivac production started for innovation hallucinated phoenix scouts the main of Innovation blink research started for Rain Extended thermal lance research started for Rain +1 armor for Innovation Innovation sending his bio out to the middle of the map 2 more rax for Innovation 10:00 Concussive shells for Innovation 2nd ebay and armory for Innovation Rain scouts the 3rd of Innovation 2-2 started for Rain 11:00 +2 attack started for Innovation ghost academy for Innovation 3rd base for Rain Rain moves out to the center of the map with his first 2 colossi 2nd starport for Innovation reactored viking production started for Innovation 12:00 Innovation scouts the building 3rd of Rain charge research started for Rain +1 ship weapons started for Innovation 3 more rax for Innovation 13:00 quadruple viking production for Innovation Rain still producing colossi ghost production started for Innovation 14:00 Innovation moving across the map now Templar archives for Rain 3-3 started for Rain +2 armor started for innovation 4 more gates for Rain Innovation pulling his scvs 15:00 5th colossus on the way for Rain zealot runby at the 3rd of Innovation HTs on the map for Rain turning into archons Innovation goes in for an attack at the 3rd of Rain photon overcharge on the 3rd viking are killed off with 1 colossus still alive Innovation is pushing forward another colossus comes out 16:00 Innovation sends a bunch of scvs to the natural for some reason Innovation is pushed back briefly another photon overcharge on the 3rd the colossi are taken out more archons are coming in Rain is able to save the nexus as Innovation backs off right before it dies Rain is 30 supply ahead 17:00 3-3 finishes for Rain 40 worker difference so Innovation has a slightly bigger army Rain about ot have 2 colossi Innovation looking to hit again Rain comes out to meet him innovation trying to kite back Rain is ahead by 60 supply now Innovation ggs! Rain wins game 1! + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler [Game 4] + Standard builds from each player, but Turn with slight mind games (1 gas) makes herO a little cautious expanding after mamacore and sentry. Turn's natural is taken earlier than herO. Turn fakes some marine aggression and takes a greedy 3rd cc, building it there. herO scouts it turning into an orbital. Medivacs are out for Turn while herO is chronoing out colossi. A fake drop by Turn with empty medivacs forces a photon overdrive on the main nexus. A warp prism flies into Turn's main and drops a few zealots. Turn runs back to take care of the warp in but herO attacks Turn's third with his main army. SCVs go down, but he saves the third. herO gathers his army and walks towards the third again, and Turn's army meets him in the middle. Turn pulls back because he lacks vikings, so herO walks over to the third. Turn pulls his SCVs and pushes herO back, taking down a colossus! herO retreats and takes his third, but Turn has had his for a while. Turn has an economic advantage but look here, Turn pulls his SCVs! But great forcefields cut off the SCVs and they all die. Turn's army is larger and he pushes into herO's third. It's close but a crucial pylon snipe stops reinforcements! Turn kills herO's third and he doesn't have many units. Turn's marauder reinforcements aren't enough and Turn has overextended. The dust settles and Turn is ahead 10 SCVs and a base. Turn macros up a new army and attacks, and even though herO has 2 colossi the marauders are too much, and he ggs.
Optional Tasks 1. Linking to Alternative Stream Options + Show Spoiler +Sometimes, other stream links will be available. This used to be the case before GOMtv decided to stream on Twitch.tv permanently. In case there are other streams for the same tournament, you can add them to the OP. The red box is the section where stream options are listed down. If you want to add a new one, just append it to the end of this block of text. Make sure to use the link button to generate the url BBcode.
2. Kpop LR + Show Spoiler +Some people like kpop. Some people LOVE kpop. Before games, music videos are usually filled as filler. A lot of people come and ask about these videos. Occasionally someone will post youtube links of the videos being played. If you want, add these youtube links to the OP in the kpop LR section.
3. More Info + Show Spoiler +There are times when important information is revealed regarding the tournament at hand. This may include schedule changes, forfeitures, postponements, etc. This news can be added after the Pre-game Polls. Make sure to spoiler them so that people don't need to read them unless they want to.
4. Changing or Adding Hype Banners + Show Spoiler +If a user provides a better banner than the one available, you can change the OP banner. The red box is where the banner is located. Simply change the img url to the new banner if you want to change it with a better one. If a user provides interesting hype material such as videos and pictures, you can add them after the Pre-Game Polls, but make sure they are spoilered.
And that's it! LRing can be tiring and time consuming, but it's also rewarding knowing that hundreds, maybe thousands of people are benefiting from your hard work. So take this job seriously! gg!
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Isnt there a way to automize it via a posting bot and liquipedia inputs?
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opterown
Australia54643 Posts
On April 17 2013 21:36 graNite wrote: Isnt there a way to automize it via a posting bot and liquipedia inputs? i doubt it, it's really quite complex to do all the things like update results, link live reports and polls, etc
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Ye this is s a nice idea so we don't end up a day 20min before a day of matches is about to begin and theres no LR. (hopefully by then someone have spotted that there is no one signed up and will step in himself) Also good way for someone that wants to try it out, to get the taste going.
That being said if people ignore the list it quickly becomes useless.
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The main ones here are the WCS events. Premier tournaments often have someone ready before hand and the Korean teamleagues also have quite a few people able to contribute.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22271 Posts
On April 17 2013 22:18 nooboon wrote: The main ones here are the WCS events. Premier tournaments often have someone ready before hand and the Korean teamleagues also have quite a few people able to contribute.
Sometimes it gets pretty close though. Having a schedule just makes it easier.
Hopefully it also encourages more people to volunteer, because LRing is time consuming and the regular LR dudes need a life too (I am assuming)
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United States97245 Posts
I have lots of projects due in the next week or two and finals coming up so I probably wont do many in the recent future but i'll start signing up for more during the summer
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22271 Posts
Do we already have a Tutorial for handling LR threads? If not I will make one.
Also, I will be on vacation from April 21 - May 15. So no help from me until I get back ^_^
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On April 17 2013 21:36 graNite wrote: Isnt there a way to automize it via a posting bot and liquipedia inputs?
No how would the bot know who won?
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I am suspecting the Eastern time zone column lists incorrect times. Move all the times listed under that column forward by one hour.
In the Google document, that is.
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opterown
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Germany25638 Posts
Thanks for doing this opterown.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36622 Posts
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opterown
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On April 18 2013 15:57 Seeker wrote: What does mk2 stand for? mark 2 i.e. version 2 etc
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can you add a section for an "LR"er? I'll be more active (and in a better time zone) in another month so i might LR once more
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opterown
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On April 18 2013 16:11 Juliette wrote: can you add a section for an "LR"er? I'll be more active (and in a better time zone) in another month so i might LR once more column G should be that column i think, if you want to shotgun/volunteer for something? if that's what you mean?
edit - oh, I think i get you. added column H!
also, thanks, you're awesome :D
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I like this. A lot of days off = a lot of starcraft = I can volunteer a lot
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nice. I'll look into it later today and probably sign up for a few LRs. Thanks again for everything you are doing for us, Opti
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22271 Posts
So I made a tutorial. I am editing it to the second post in this thread. Please tell me if there is anything I need to add, change, or rewrite. I'm sure a lot of potential volunteers are just afraid that they might screw up and don't have anywhere to learn how to do the thread. So having a tutorial will hopefully encourage more people to help out.
I'm leaving on Sunday so plz tell me what to fix asap. You can use it or not, up to you bros
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opterown
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looks pretty solid, i'll take an indepth look soon!
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I did read the tutorial. Everything looks fine. Great job, lichter.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22271 Posts
You (or anyone else) can edit it if you want to make it better. I won't be around for 3 weeks so change it as you like so interested people can read it as soon as possible.
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United States97245 Posts
You should put something about removing the red text (the title of the thread) from the actual op. I know i was silly enough to leave it in for a while and i see people do that all the time but it isn't necessary
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22271 Posts
On April 18 2013 16:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:You should put something about removing the red text (the title of the thread) from the actual op. I know i was silly enough to leave it in for a while and i see people do that all the time but it isn't necessary
I leave it in lol
For a lot of people there are ads between the Topic title up top and the OP, so the title is hard to find sometimes. I don't have adblock active for TL so I like seeing the game title in the OP.
Should it be removed? If it does I will add to the tutorial to remove it
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United States97245 Posts
On April 18 2013 17:04 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 16:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:You should put something about removing the red text (the title of the thread) from the actual op. I know i was silly enough to leave it in for a while and i see people do that all the time but it isn't necessary I leave it in lol For a lot of people there are ads between the Topic title up top and the OP, so the title is hard to find sometimes. I don't have adblock active for TL so I like seeing the game title in the OP. Should it be removed? If it does I will add to the tutorial to remove it I mean I guess it can stay. People just told me to remove it especially if you leave it above the banner xD
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On April 18 2013 16:12 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 16:11 Juliette wrote: can you add a section for an "LR"er? I'll be more active (and in a better time zone) in another month so i might LR once more column G should be that column i think, if you want to shotgun/volunteer for something? if that's what you mean? edit - oh, I think i get you. added column H! also, thanks, you're awesome :D Perfect
I don't really watch much sc2 but i'll have free time in the summer lol
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On April 18 2013 15:21 Hier wrote: I am suspecting the Eastern time zone column lists incorrect times. Move all the times listed under that column forward by one hour.
In the Google document, that is. Haven't used Google docs much, but if editing rights can be transferred I could do it.
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On April 18 2013 17:15 Hier wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 15:21 Hier wrote: I am suspecting the Eastern time zone column lists incorrect times. Move all the times listed under that column forward by one hour.
In the Google document, that is. Haven't used Google docs much, but if editing rights can be transferred I could do it. oh oops didn't notice the post haha i'll check it up
right now, only i can edit A-F, but anyone else can edit G+
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On April 18 2013 17:18 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 17:15 Hier wrote:On April 18 2013 15:21 Hier wrote: I am suspecting the Eastern time zone column lists incorrect times. Move all the times listed under that column forward by one hour.
In the Google document, that is. Haven't used Google docs much, but if editing rights can be transferred I could do it. oh oops didn't notice the post haha i'll check it up right now, only i can edit A-F, but anyone else can edit G+ Ok. Thanks for the work, by the way, this is very useful.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22271 Posts
C'mon bros look through the tutorial and see what can be improved/changed/etc. I only got til tomorrow to fix it before I go on vacation. We should post the tutorial somewhere more visible. Maybe add it to the LR Resources thread?
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On April 19 2013 00:25 lichter wrote: C'mon bros look through the tutorial and see what can be improved/changed/etc. I only got til tomorrow to fix it before I go on vacation. We should post the tutorial somewhere more visible. Maybe add it to the LR Resources thread?
Very good guide, haven't found any mistakes. I think you should add that people should pre-make the 'Recommended Games' polls (keep them in a text document) and post them as soon as the games finish (prepare to post them in another tab in the Browser) and in fast LRs quote them and post them again on the next page to get as many votes as possible. Also remember people to also ask for 'Recommend Game 3?' even if the series ended in 2 games to prevent spoilers.
Also since TLPD sometimes doesn't work so well, people making the op should have a list of the Maps Here's my list, you can add it to the guide if you want to (has all GSL maps I think, Proleague maps are missing though)
+ Show Spoiler [Maps] +
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22271 Posts
Good suggestions, I made the changes.
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well this doesn't seem to be working lol, the next 10 event OPs are premade and noone's signed up ;;
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On April 19 2013 17:29 opterown wrote: well this doesn't seem to be working lol, the next 10 event OPs are premade and noone's signed up ;; Finals man. Everyone's busy
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Well I was going to do SKT vs EGTL, but as soon I added my name someone removed it and didn't really add anything in its place. So now I'm confused.
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On April 19 2013 17:44 Hier wrote: Well I was going to do SKT vs EGTL, but as soon I added my name someone removed it and didn't really add anything in its place. So now I'm confused. I accidentally added my name(wanted to do a different one) to it then removed it so that might be why, just re-add your name.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22271 Posts
I think mods and admin need to make this more visible and help us find more volunteers. I'm pretty sure they are happy about having such awesome LR threads for all the tournaments. I know LRs aren't necessary but I'm sure everyone is glad to have them. Maybe we can make a more attractive (aka more snazzy pizazzy pictures), detailed, and substantial OP for this thread and ask the admin to add the thread to Community News or Featured News or something.
"LR Crew Need Your Help! Volunteer Today!" or something like that. TL should be willing to help.
I am also reiterating that I will be away (unlikely I will even get to check TL, or even my mail) from April 21 until May 15. So goodluck with the threads dudes xD
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On April 19 2013 17:29 opterown wrote: well this doesn't seem to be working lol, the next 10 event OPs are premade and noone's signed up ;; ;; I don't know if I'm going out tonight... totally depends on that. Or else ill take SPL match 2 or GSTL.
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On April 19 2013 17:29 opterown wrote: well this doesn't seem to be working lol, the next 10 event OPs are premade and noone's signed up ;;
Yeah, I waited to see if the usual people would choose theirs first.
I can hop in and op the SPL SKT1 vs T8 22/04 if needed, but it disappeared from the list ? I can't do LRs though
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On April 19 2013 23:43 Denar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 17:29 opterown wrote: well this doesn't seem to be working lol, the next 10 event OPs are premade and noone's signed up ;; Yeah, I waited to see if the usual people would choose theirs first. I can hop in and op the SPL SKT1 vs T8 22/04 if needed, but it disappeared from the list ? I can't do LRs though probably removed cause someone already made it http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408555
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On April 19 2013 23:44 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 23:43 Denar wrote:On April 19 2013 17:29 opterown wrote: well this doesn't seem to be working lol, the next 10 event OPs are premade and noone's signed up ;; Yeah, I waited to see if the usual people would choose theirs first. I can hop in and op the SPL SKT1 vs T8 22/04 if needed, but it disappeared from the list ? I can't do LRs though probably removed cause someone already made it http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408555
Ok, maybe we should leave it in the list, with the poster's name, so we know what's up ?
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22271 Posts
I am leaving tomorrow and I'll be gone for a while. If you guys can find someplace better to put the tutorial so that more people can read it, be my guest. Good luck.
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I'll make the OPs for the threads I signed up for one day before the matches take place to prevent cluttering up the Tourney section with lots of different threads. I don't know yet if I'll be able to do the WCS EU threads as well but I think it'll be fine if we get them up early on the day the matches happen, so that shouldn't be a problem.
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now that WCS is in full swing, we have up to five events in one day!
consider checking out the calendar and see if you can help in any way :D
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sorry, it's a really bad week for me. I think I won't be able to do a single LR thread this week T.T
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it's ok nw i'm sure some will step up!
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22271 Posts
I'm back bros anyone wanna fill me in
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everything seems to be going fine except no one wants to make WCS AM threads so they always get made last minute. I've been doing all of them this week but I have a mandatory meeting tomorrow during the broadcast so hopefully someone else will do it.
more people have been making threads than before so that's good.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22271 Posts
What time is WCS AM in KR time
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On May 16 2013 12:46 lichter wrote: What time is WCS AM in KR time 7:00 KST
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your Country52793 Posts
Sorry to bump, but do you still need someone to make WCS AM OP's? I might have time this summer.
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On June 22 2013 12:10 The_Templar wrote: Sorry to bump, but do you still need someone to make WCS AM OP's? I might have time this summer. that would be pretty damn awesome man :D thanks for volunteering! feel free to use the calendar/SC2 resources thread anytime haha (i'll premake as usual for as long as i can, probably until i graduate or something)
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