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Today, mYinsanity is pleased to announce another addition to our ranks: Swedish Protoss player Emily “QueenE” Krumlinde. QueenE will be joining the mYinsanity B team, and seek to continue improving. Reaching mid-masters in only a year of playing Starcraft II, she has already shown vast improvement over a relatively short period, and continues to do so. QueenE regularly streams her practice, so we definitely recommend checking out her stream (listed below)! mYinsanity wishes all the best to QueenE, and we look forward to a successful partnership!
Statement from QueenE:
The name is Emily “QueenE” Krumlinde and I am a 22 year old Swedish Protoss player. It’s an honor to join mYinsanity and I hope that with their support I can improve enough to challenge the elite. I’m looking forward to wearing the team colors and I would like to thank them for giving me the opportunity to pursue my dreams.
Official News: myinsanity.eu/news/queene.html mYinsanity Facebook: facebook.com/myinsanity.eu QueenE’s Facebook: facebook.com/sc2QueenE QueenE’s Twitter: twitter.com/sc2QueenE QueenE’s Stream: twitch.tv/tetzui
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Woho! Congratulations! (Heja Sverige!)
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Is she the one that Strelok had a perfect game against?
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Awesome! Congratulations to both the team and QueenE!
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It's finally official!
Glad to know the hours and hours Wilko spent watching your stream weren't just to steal your builds
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No name player joins no name team. Nice to have this posted on team liquid and upvoted on reddit only because she is a woman.
Not trying to be a troll or anything just if it was a guy no one would care and call you out on it.
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On May 28 2013 01:25 Alex) wrote: No name player joins no name team. Nice to have this posted on team liquid and upvoted on reddit only because she is a woman.
Not trying to be a troll or anything just if it was a guy no one would care and call you out on it.
Well if you check the posts this team has made on team liquid before it's about players joining their team, no matter who they are, so I don't get where you got the "only because she is a woman"-thing from.
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On May 28 2013 01:25 Alex) wrote: No name player joins no name team. Nice to have this posted on team liquid and upvoted on reddit only because she is a woman.
Not trying to be a troll or anything just if it was a guy no one would care and call you out on it. No name forum poster uses someones anouncement thread to propogate their sexism only becuase they are jelly.
Not trying to be a troll or anything but your reducing this player to their gender and im calling you out on it.
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On May 28 2013 01:25 Alex) wrote: No name player joins no name team. Nice to have this posted on team liquid and upvoted on reddit only because she is a woman.
Not trying to be a troll or anything just if it was a guy no one would care and call you out on it.
We like to promote our players. When someone reputable like StarDust joins, we post about it, but just the same when someone less popular joins, we also like to post it. Sorry if you don't like it.
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On May 28 2013 01:25 Alex) wrote: No name player joins no name team. Nice to have this posted on team liquid and upvoted on reddit only because she is a woman.
Not trying to be a troll or anything just if it was a guy no one would care and call you out on it.
Well i wouldnt call mYinsanity a noname team, we got some known players like Tarson and StarDust aswell as potenitally rising stars (Evaner, DaNa, ABomB...)
Also we said shes going to join the B-Team, we have alot of players, which we think have the potential to become good.
Posting things on Teamliquid is to keep the community informed, since QueenE has about 500 followers, i think atleast one is interested in her joining a team.
Greetings!
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On May 28 2013 00:58 aznheat80 wrote: Is she the one that Strelok had a perfect game against?
Yes.
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Also, I fail to understand how being open and proud of recruiting female players is automatically and exclusively gender profiteering. We are a community that is trying to expand its female player and fan base. I think the way to do that is to show that we love having qualified and talented female players representing teams. Nothing wrong with showing the world that eSports is a great place for all kinds of people.
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Welcome QueenE, glad to have you in the team!
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Welcome to the mYi family
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Wasn't she in a dreamhack video or something like that?
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pics?
User was warned for this post
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Very hardworking person, so this is well-deserved. Keep it up, Emily. <3
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Stream is live now twitch.tv/tetzui
i have to admit im a bit jelly. i played her once on ladder and beat her quite convincingly. Since then i like to tune in to her stream now and then because she mentioned it ingame.
but yeah. she has decent stream numbers, she commentates a bit, its fun to watch! so thats more than i can say for me, i dont think its undeserved and its just B-team. Its a chance, and i think its a good thing to give it to motivated people with potential.
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she's cute. I hope she has fun playing on a team! : )
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Congratulations! Work hard, Have fun!
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They've stated her rate of improvement so we know that these guys are sincere. mYinsanity has some great players and StarDust is quite underrated.
Grats on the pickup.
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More girls into e-sports, I think she can be the next scarlett with shitton practice BEST OF LUCK!
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I thought myInsanity was absorbed by Denial?
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On May 28 2013 03:55 vult wrote: I thought myInsanity was absorbed by Denial? My intent an NA team whom solely existed to confuse with myinsanity.
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Congratz Queene xD Awesome to see a really awesome/friendly team pick up such a pleasant person like Queene
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Grats to QueenE and mYinsanity!
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cool, I don't know much about her but it's always nice to see more female players. Hopefully the new team will lead to some good results for her.
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mYinsanity growing eSports with all their pickups ;o
glhf~!
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On May 28 2013 01:41 Zheryn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2013 00:58 aznheat80 wrote: Is she the one that Strelok had a perfect game against? Yes.
Any VODs of that? o0;
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nice, congratulations to both team and player!
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On May 28 2013 05:03 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2013 01:41 Zheryn wrote:On May 28 2013 00:58 aznheat80 wrote: Is she the one that Strelok had a perfect game against? Yes. Any VODs of that? o0;
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=strelok queene
I assume its the shorter one of the two :p
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Naturally female players are more interesting atm because there are less of them, you could use the same argument for foreigner vs korean players, and there's no doubt a bias of interest towards foreigners as well. Don't feel offended by everything :-/
Nice to see more women making it to the bigger teams, hopefully one day this will be standard.
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On May 28 2013 01:25 Alex) wrote: No name player joins no name team. Nice to have this posted on team liquid and upvoted on reddit only because she is a woman.
Not trying to be a troll or anything just if it was a guy no one would care and call you out on it.
It matters to us Swedes and I think it's fun and cool that someone can make a living out of this glorious game, be it a Swede or whatever, girl or whatever.
Did the post receive a bigger boost because she is female? Probably so, but think about how awesome it is that more and more girls are joining the pro-scene. I know a lot of people crave their presence.
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Well deserved, seems like a very nice player.
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Congrats and good luck!! (:
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Congratulations!
And yeah, the stream is great
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Protoss? Interesting, always seems like pro-am female gamers in the scene gravitate toward T or Z for some reason. Nice to see someone breaking the mould :D glgl!
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Best of luck to you QueenE!
Will check out the stream!
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Congratulations and best of luck QueenE
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I'm usually very sceptical about teams picking up low level female players to be part of their active playing rooster. not naming names. But she is at least master and got to that level very fast. So it's a good opportunity for her and good promotion for the team. Good luck QueenE!
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Jacob i recommend checking out our A and B team, she totally fits in the B Team and is even higher ranked than some of our B-Team players! And finally, you cant judge a player with archievements only, she puts in a lot of effort and loves starcraft aswell as everything around it,
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Congrats! Continue to work hard and make the most of the opportunity!
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On May 28 2013 06:16 Alaeus wrote:Congratulations! And yeah, the stream is great
Not to mention the chat. I don't participate but the chat is clean and the mods are good. Usually one has to hide the chat but no need here. I approve.
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On May 28 2013 15:03 Mina wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2013 06:16 Alaeus wrote:Congratulations! And yeah, the stream is great Not to mention the chat. I don't participate but the chat is clean and the mods are good. Usually one has to hide the chat but no need here. I approve.
Thank you! I am one of the mods and we really put pride into keeping the chat pleasant
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Something that might have gone many by is that WWStarNaN is her mentor/coach. She said so on stream last night. So it's not just a random master player grinding ladder games to improve.
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On May 28 2013 01:25 Alex) wrote: No name player joins no name team. Nice to have this posted on team liquid and upvoted on reddit only because she is a woman.
Not trying to be a troll or anything just if it was a guy no one would care and call you out on it.
nvm. blade has given me council
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On May 28 2013 17:55 -Switch- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2013 01:25 Alex) wrote: No name player joins no name team. Nice to have this posted on team liquid and upvoted on reddit only because she is a woman.
Not trying to be a troll or anything just if it was a guy no one would care and call you out on it. gonna have to +1 this. It's a joke that everyone thinks this person deserves to join a team just because she is a girl. lol
She deserves a team because she works hard on getting better and attending tournaments.
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On May 28 2013 17:58 Peachpuff wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2013 17:55 -Switch- wrote:On May 28 2013 01:25 Alex) wrote: No name player joins no name team. Nice to have this posted on team liquid and upvoted on reddit only because she is a woman.
Not trying to be a troll or anything just if it was a guy no one would care and call you out on it. gonna have to +1 this. It's a joke that everyone thinks this person deserves to join a team just because she is a girl. lol She deserves a team because she works hard on getting better and attending tournaments. Just like forever bronze people...
Seriously though, it's business. i7 picked up MaximusBlack as a personality, myi picked up QueenE as a girl. That's all there is to it.
That said, I'm always fine with girls playing SC2. It's just that I personally think it's a little too early for her to be on a team.
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On June 04 2013 06:45 Antylamon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2013 17:58 Peachpuff wrote:On May 28 2013 17:55 -Switch- wrote:On May 28 2013 01:25 Alex) wrote: No name player joins no name team. Nice to have this posted on team liquid and upvoted on reddit only because she is a woman.
Not trying to be a troll or anything just if it was a guy no one would care and call you out on it. gonna have to +1 this. It's a joke that everyone thinks this person deserves to join a team just because she is a girl. lol She deserves a team because she works hard on getting better and attending tournaments. Just like forever bronze people... Seriously though, it's business. i7 picked up MaximusBlack as a personality, myi picked up QueenE as a girl. That's all there is to it. That said, I'm always fine with girls playing SC2. It's just that I personally think it's a little too early for her to be on a team.
There is a huge difference in mid masters to forever bronze. With a team backing her up for support, she could very realistically reach grandmaster level. it's called investing in potential talent.
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On June 04 2013 06:56 partydude89 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2013 06:45 Antylamon wrote:On May 28 2013 17:58 Peachpuff wrote:On May 28 2013 17:55 -Switch- wrote:On May 28 2013 01:25 Alex) wrote: No name player joins no name team. Nice to have this posted on team liquid and upvoted on reddit only because she is a woman.
Not trying to be a troll or anything just if it was a guy no one would care and call you out on it. gonna have to +1 this. It's a joke that everyone thinks this person deserves to join a team just because she is a girl. lol She deserves a team because she works hard on getting better and attending tournaments. Just like forever bronze people... Seriously though, it's business. i7 picked up MaximusBlack as a personality, myi picked up QueenE as a girl. That's all there is to it. That said, I'm always fine with girls playing SC2. It's just that I personally think it's a little too early for her to be on a team. There is a huge difference in mid masters to forever bronze. With a team backing her up for support, she could very realistically reach grandmaster level. it's called investing in potential talent. Of course; anyone can realistically reach GM.
That's what I mean by saying it's business.
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On June 04 2013 06:45 Antylamon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2013 17:58 Peachpuff wrote:On May 28 2013 17:55 -Switch- wrote:On May 28 2013 01:25 Alex) wrote: No name player joins no name team. Nice to have this posted on team liquid and upvoted on reddit only because she is a woman.
Not trying to be a troll or anything just if it was a guy no one would care and call you out on it. gonna have to +1 this. It's a joke that everyone thinks this person deserves to join a team just because she is a girl. lol She deserves a team because she works hard on getting better and attending tournaments. Just like forever bronze people... Seriously though, it's business. i7 picked up MaximusBlack as a personality, myi picked up QueenE as a girl. That's all there is to it. That said, I'm always fine with girls playing SC2. It's just that I personally think it's a little too early for her to be on a team. I wouldn't say we picked her up because she is a girl. A few of our players made friends with her so she decided she would like to join us. Because she is at least on par with the skill level of our B Team (and will most likely get even better), we had no reason to say no.
But I see what you are trying to say there are some teams that have girls just because they are girls, however with her ambitions and current SC2 skill, Queene absolutely deserves her spot in our team.
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Your points are ridiculous and misinformed. Take a walk outside and come back when you've calmed down.
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On June 30 2013 03:41 dTox wrote: 10. Looks like female version of Naniwa.
I look somewhat like a female version of Idra.
+ Show Spoiler +Your points are as awful as the one I just made.
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On June 30 2013 03:41 dTox wrote: Quite possibly one of the worst, most miserable, disrespectful and insulting streamers i have ever watched. I don't even think Idra is as much of an a-hole to his fans/viewers as she is.
1. Belittles her over-excited/pandering fans every time i have watched. 2. Disrespectful/rude to fans on Twitter. 3. Over emotional and emotionally unstable on stream almost every time i have watched. 4. Does not analyse her losses / wins, instead whines/gloats either way. 5. Mid-masters at BEST, high diamond average. 6. Arrogant. 7. Thinks far too highly of herself. Playing a year? Don't stream and come back when you're actually good. 8. Capitalizes on the fact she is a girl to pull viewers/followers/forge some kind of career then grumbles when her viewers consist of 90% virgin males who only tuned in to see a girl and not her epic diamond plays. 9. Bad. 10. Looks like female version of Naniwa.
QueenE pls go.
I must've really hit a nerve in you to make you write this dedicated comment! Thanks for spending this big amount of time focusing on me. From what you're telling everyone here you're most likely one of the people I banned for being disrepectful or sexist, interesting what an emotional reaction that stirred up in you, good, maybe it provokes some sort of thought!
However, if you've indeed watched my stream it would be quite clear to you how I don't at all "capitalize" on what gender i happened to be born with, seeing as I have a zero tolerance policy in my chat on various things related to just that. Yes I am emotional over my wins/losses, and I also have Aspergers Syndrome which makes me less sociable and socially correct, lacking much of the "filter" neurotypes have between thinking/talking straight out what you are thinking amongst other things. That is very likely to get on some people's nerves!
And I for one think women, and everyone else should be able to stream and play whatever games they love, no matter ambition or skill-level without people feeling the need to react, well. EXACTLY the way you just did. Thank you for giving me yet another reason to keep on streaming and to keep on working hard to reach my goals and dreams!
I hope you find peace in your life, you seem to need it. Much love, Q. ♥
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On May 28 2013 01:25 Alex) wrote: No name player joins no name team. Nice to have this posted on team liquid and upvoted on reddit only because she is a woman.
Not trying to be a troll or anything just if it was a guy no one would care and call you out on it. The player from this no name team won Dreamhack last week.
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Omg so much hate -.-
She is an awesome streamer and imo she's quite nice to the viewers as well etc. So I really don't get where dTox's overwhelming hate is coming from...
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I've met QueenE in person and she is in no way anything what mister dTox describes. She is easily one of the most dedicated people, given her situation and she truly pursues her goals. It's just sad some people berate QueenE, just because she happens to be born female. Feeling sad what she has to go through sometimes when she streams. Oh, the day when the gender you are won't matter and you won't be measured by double standards by cuple of cavemen. <.<
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This dTox guy made my day, one word; ROFL.
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On June 30 2013 04:18 dTox wrote:
So i'll pick you up about 8?
No thank you, I don't go out with hateful sexists.
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dTox why so much hate :/ and no, Queene only goes out with me!! :DD
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dTox, stop being a weird creep. If you've got something to say stop wrapping it in weird talk about going out.
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On June 30 2013 05:19 dTox wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 04:49 QueenE wrote:On June 30 2013 04:18 dTox wrote:
So i'll pick you up about 8? No thank you, I don't go out with hateful sexists. I dislike your arrogance and general disrespect toward your funny fans, must mean i'm sexist! Madam that kind of logic really ruffles my feathers and rumples my stiltskins i'll have you know. Honestly i think its great that you are signed to mYi and have this awesome opportunity before you. But you should not be so surprised when 90% of your viewers are gawking young males who tuned in to charm you with their 13 year old twitch-game (see FaZiNate ^) and see a pretty girl play Starcraft. I mean that's why i originally tuned in. Then i started to see how bitchy you were toward these young gents and felt you needed reminding why you actually have viewers in the first place. Sorry if i upset you, i can be quite the jimmy rustler, but once you get past my moral values and stern exterior you will warm to my boyish good looks and witty banter. Good day, Love, Me. (your future soulmate).
With your logic I should also get flattered if I got mugged because that only means that my cellphone was so pretty!
No, just, no. I don't agree with your victimblaming mentality, and there is no reason for me to not call people out on their unwanted behaviours. I have no reason to be grateful for (what you view as) their "funny remarks" or for my "funny fans", which isn't funny at all just because I am streaming and they chose to tune in that day. It's like telling someone who got raped that they had it coming because they happened to be wearing a skirt the purpetrator found too short. It seems to me that you need to do some serious thinking about how you view women.
I have never, and will never accept that kind of behaviour in my personal stream-chat, not even in the form of "harmless trolling". If you think that makes me arrogant and bitchy, then I'll happily wear the label of being just that.
-Q
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I don't even know why i am still bothering to read the comments of these kinds of threads...
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Congrats to her and mYinsanity! Best of luck!
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On June 30 2013 05:49 Firlefanz wrote: I don't even know why i am still bothering to read the comments of these kinds of threads...
Hahaha THIS !
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I don't know you yet, but mYinsanity has impressed me a lot with their recent results, so I am looking forward to seeing you improve by getting trained in the B team
good luck!
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You're not supposed to read the comments. And you really aren't supposed to respond to trolls.
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dTox the best thing about people like you is, that you always have to complain about something. Why do you even care... you don't like Queene so why even bothering? You don't make any sense at all.
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QueenE, are you going to practice in the teamhouse or you are going to stay in Sweden?
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asperger is no sure diagnostic its only a thinking can not be proved i know it cause i have it (at least they say it) i think they not diagnose it anymore instead have 2 other thinks to throw around with WHATEVER if you have, you still no care a shit about what who write here so its fine all as it is gogo gm !!! xD ps: dont feed the trolls they just sad they cant flame idra on eg anymore and need someone else to compare whatever they have
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On June 30 2013 06:30 CoR wrote:asperger is no sure diagnostic its only a thinking can not be proved i know it cause i have it (at least they say it) i think they not diagnose it anymore instead have 2 other thinks to throw around with WHATEVER if you have, you still no care a shit about what who write here so its fine all as it is gogo gm !!! xD
autism can be proven, yes
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On June 30 2013 06:31 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 06:30 CoR wrote:asperger is no sure diagnostic its only a thinking can not be proved i know it cause i have it (at least they say it) i think they not diagnose it anymore instead have 2 other thinks to throw around with WHATEVER if you have, you still no care a shit about what who write here so its fine all as it is gogo gm !!! xD autism can be proven, yes
autism yes, asperger ... well not really
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On June 30 2013 06:22 FaZiNaTe wrote: dTox the best thing about people like you is, that you always have to complain about something. Why do you even care... you don't like Queene so why even bothering? You don't make any sense at all.
I don't know. Some of his criticism could sound somewhat valid, if it weren't wrapped in so much unnecessary pointless hate. I visited her stream once and I didn't really like attitude to be honest, but maybe some people do, matter of preference. I solved it pretty simply though, I never tuned in again lol.
Wish her and the team the best though. Stardust's DH victory was pretty sick.
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On June 30 2013 06:32 CoR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 06:31 nkr wrote:On June 30 2013 06:30 CoR wrote:asperger is no sure diagnostic its only a thinking can not be proved i know it cause i have it (at least they say it) i think they not diagnose it anymore instead have 2 other thinks to throw around with WHATEVER if you have, you still no care a shit about what who write here so its fine all as it is gogo gm !!! xD autism can be proven, yes autism yes, asperger ... well not really
asperger is a part of the autism spectrum
edit: and is actually not even a diagnosis anymore, it's just autism
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Yeah you get a bunch of young kids trying to be "funny" when there's a female streaming. If she dares to tell them that they're being sexist asshats and bans them, THEN you get these condescending, sexist, creeps trying to educate her because she's "being a bitch" and should just shut up like a good woman. Right. Because, you know, boys will be boys and, she should just stop being such a mean bitch all the time! How exactly are you supposed to learn to be a decent human being if noone ever tells you that your behaviour is disrespectful and creepy?
Think she's got a very good policy about banning people who just frankly shouldn't be welcome to ANY stream chat. I don't tune in too often as I don't like protoss much (and there's a ton of content on all the time these days), but when I do, I like that the chat is clean <3
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On May 28 2013 01:25 Alex) wrote: No name player joins no name team. Nice to have this posted on team liquid and upvoted on reddit only because she is a woman.
Not trying to be a troll or anything just if it was a guy no one would care and call you out on it.
the truth right here.
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dTox your first post wasnt sexist but your pick up and soulmate shit sure is also who says player have to analyze their games? saw stardust just play and play yesterday and it was great I also looked through her twitter just now and didnt see any rude comments
shit like this is gonna make sure that esports stays the sausage fest it is
if you dont like the stream then ffs dont watch it. For example I watched puck's stream some weeks ago, i got a somewhat negative vibe out of it so i stopped watching. What I didnt do is go to a TL thread to bitch about what an ass he is and how he is emotionally unstable And if she belittles her fans then its their fans choice to stick around or to go away.
On June 30 2013 06:48 Chrono000 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2013 01:25 Alex) wrote: No name player joins no name team. Nice to have this posted on team liquid and upvoted on reddit only because she is a woman.
Not trying to be a troll or anything just if it was a guy no one would care and call you out on it. the truth right here. if you dislike the fact that theres a thread about it then gj bumping it only to repeat what was already said lol
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On June 30 2013 06:27 GunSec wrote: QueenE, are you going to practice in the teamhouse or you are going to stay in Sweden? I'll hopefully go there this fall if everything works out!
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On June 30 2013 06:38 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 06:32 CoR wrote:On June 30 2013 06:31 nkr wrote:On June 30 2013 06:30 CoR wrote:asperger is no sure diagnostic its only a thinking can not be proved i know it cause i have it (at least they say it) i think they not diagnose it anymore instead have 2 other thinks to throw around with WHATEVER if you have, you still no care a shit about what who write here so its fine all as it is gogo gm !!! xD autism can be proven, yes autism yes, asperger ... well not really asperger is a part of the autism spectrum edit: and is actually not even a diagnosis anymore, it's just autism
Aspergers is being merged completely with autism, and it's a very much proven disability.
Edit: Nvm saw that you already wrote almost exactly what I did! ♥ Bit too quick to type there!
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While I dont agree completely with dTox I must say that attitude of QueenE really surprised me. Everyone is different and has her/his own ways of dealing with viewers but its important to point out that there is more and more streamers these days and to get someone to tune in it takes some originality.
I was really keen to watch her play but that attitude :/ Telling viewers off for giving tips and advices was jaw dropping. Unless you are MLG, WCS etc etc champion you can refuse people to help you but she isnt even GM. Surely there are more polite ways to tell people that tips are not welcome than raging.
It takes little bit more than the fact QueenE is a female protoss to get people to tune in. Interacting with viewers in polite manner along with innovative play is far more important than the sex of a streamer. If people dont mind that attidude and prefer to watch her not her gameplay then maybe it is a new way of playing starcraft?
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On June 30 2013 06:55 7mk wrote:dTox your first post wasnt sexist but your pick up and soulmate shit sure is also who says player have to analyze their games? saw stardust just play and play yesterday and it was great I also looked through her twitter just now and didnt see any rude comments shit like this is gonna make sure that esports stays the sausage fest it is if you dont like the stream then ffs dont watch it. For example I watched puck's stream some weeks ago, i got a somewhat negative vibe out of it so i stopped watching. What I didnt do is go to a TL thread to bitch about what an ass he is and how he is emotionally unstable And if she belittles her fans then its their fans choice to stick around or to go away. Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 06:48 Chrono000 wrote:On May 28 2013 01:25 Alex) wrote: No name player joins no name team. Nice to have this posted on team liquid and upvoted on reddit only because she is a woman.
Not trying to be a troll or anything just if it was a guy no one would care and call you out on it. the truth right here. if you dislike the fact that theres a thread about it then gj bumping it only to repeat what was already said lol
give me a break man. how else am i going to get the word out yo.
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Why did no one make the assburger joke yet? I am so confused and kind of dissapointed by the internet that this joke has not been made yet.
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On June 30 2013 09:34 MrRyuzaki wrote: Why did no one make the assburger joke yet? I am so confused and kind of dissapointed by the internet that this joke has not been made yet.
It's very cool how you made a new TL account to make a terrible comment. Very impressive you must be a lot of fun and good with jokes
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On May 28 2013 01:25 Alex) wrote: No name player joins no name team. Nice to have this posted on team liquid and upvoted on reddit only because she is a woman.
Not trying to be a troll or anything just if it was a guy no one would care and call you out on it. Announcements like this are made for lower teams and player pick ups all the time what in gods green earth are you even talking about :l
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On June 30 2013 11:50 Venomsflame wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 09:34 MrRyuzaki wrote: Why did no one make the assburger joke yet? I am so confused and kind of dissapointed by the internet that this joke has not been made yet. It's very cool how you made a new TL account to make a terrible comment. Very impressive you must be a lot of fun and good with jokes
I just never had a TL account before , but yes i am allot of fun and pretty good with jokes. Thank you for being such a keen observer, starting today i shall call you Captain Obvious.
Anyway Captain Obvious, the comment wasnt terrible or mean at all, i merely observed that the comment has not been made yet and i was dissapointed by that.
Anyway, what comes around goes around, when people BM on stream people BM back G_G
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On June 30 2013 05:49 Firlefanz wrote: I don't even know why i am still bothering to read the comments of these kinds of threads... Its in these times you know you're really bored
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Cool mYi got a mascot too. Seriously though it's good business if she has a dedicated streaming audience regardless of age group it's good for starcraft.
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On June 30 2013 07:27 inkfected wrote: While I dont agree completely with dTox I must say that attitude of QueenE really surprised me. Everyone is different and has her/his own ways of dealing with viewers but its important to point out that there is more and more streamers these days and to get someone to tune in it takes some originality.
I was really keen to watch her play but that attitude :/ Telling viewers off for giving tips and advices was jaw dropping. Unless you are MLG, WCS etc etc champion you can refuse people to help you but she isnt even GM. Surely there are more polite ways to tell people that tips are not welcome than raging.
It takes little bit more than the fact QueenE is a female protoss to get people to tune in. Interacting with viewers in polite manner along with innovative play is far more important than the sex of a streamer. If people dont mind that attidude and prefer to watch her not her gameplay then maybe it is a new way of playing starcraft?
I wish people could atleast try to understand what it means to have aspergers/autism instead of telling me how incorrect and rude I am socially.
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On July 01 2013 01:30 QueenE wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 07:27 inkfected wrote: While I dont agree completely with dTox I must say that attitude of QueenE really surprised me. Everyone is different and has her/his own ways of dealing with viewers but its important to point out that there is more and more streamers these days and to get someone to tune in it takes some originality.
I was really keen to watch her play but that attitude :/ Telling viewers off for giving tips and advices was jaw dropping. Unless you are MLG, WCS etc etc champion you can refuse people to help you but she isnt even GM. Surely there are more polite ways to tell people that tips are not welcome than raging.
It takes little bit more than the fact QueenE is a female protoss to get people to tune in. Interacting with viewers in polite manner along with innovative play is far more important than the sex of a streamer. If people dont mind that attidude and prefer to watch her not her gameplay then maybe it is a new way of playing starcraft? I wish people could atleast try to understand what it means to have aspergers/autism instead of telling me how incorrect and rude I am socially.
Well I think a lot of people can understand if someone with a disease like Tourette's for example keeps yelling rude things to them but still they can get offended by it. I guess my point is that having some disease is a good excuse but it doesn't stop other people getting offended. Perhaps if your 'disease' makes you angry and not pleasant person to watch on stream, perhaps you maybe just should not stream?
Anyways, congrats for your new team. Hopefully you have a very successful career in SC2. SC2 needs more good female players.
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Cool, a literal nobody masters player signs for a minor team. Not sure why this deserves a reddit post and a TL thread outside of her gender since she has no worthwhile results or decent stream numbers, but okay.
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Perhaps you should add a note on your stream page so that people will know that you have Asperger? After all, if people are unaware of it, it's no wonder if they think you're rude. A small note saying something like "I have Asperger, so I usually say exactly what I mean, be warned" or something like that should suffice (if that is they way you talk, of course. I only know one girl with Asperger and she often does that, so I'm guessing you might do it, too. If I'm wrong, just disregard what I wrote). In my experience, neuro-typical people have an easier time accepting atypical behaviour if they (we) have a "reason" for it. It's not the way it should be, I guess, but it's the way it is, so it may help to avoid misunderstanding on your stream.
If you don't feel comfortable telling everyone who visits your stream that you have Asperger, then no need to include that of course, but since you brought it up yourself, I'm guessing you're pretty comfortable about it, so that's why I suggested it You could just say that you say what you mean without mentioning Asperger at all, I guess, if that's preferable.
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On July 01 2013 01:30 QueenE wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 07:27 inkfected wrote: While I dont agree completely with dTox I must say that attitude of QueenE really surprised me. Everyone is different and has her/his own ways of dealing with viewers but its important to point out that there is more and more streamers these days and to get someone to tune in it takes some originality.
I was really keen to watch her play but that attitude :/ Telling viewers off for giving tips and advices was jaw dropping. Unless you are MLG, WCS etc etc champion you can refuse people to help you but she isnt even GM. Surely there are more polite ways to tell people that tips are not welcome than raging.
It takes little bit more than the fact QueenE is a female protoss to get people to tune in. Interacting with viewers in polite manner along with innovative play is far more important than the sex of a streamer. If people dont mind that attidude and prefer to watch her not her gameplay then maybe it is a new way of playing starcraft? I wish people could atleast try to understand what it means to have aspergers/autism instead of telling me how incorrect and rude I am socially.
Then again, having asperger is no reason to be bm ( even though allot of people (Inc. you) with aspergers hide behind the fact that they have asperger and that its a golden ticket to just say everything. And i actually understand what asperger is ,since i have been working with someone for two years who had it aswell
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On July 01 2013 02:13 MrRyuzaki wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 01:30 QueenE wrote:On June 30 2013 07:27 inkfected wrote: While I dont agree completely with dTox I must say that attitude of QueenE really surprised me. Everyone is different and has her/his own ways of dealing with viewers but its important to point out that there is more and more streamers these days and to get someone to tune in it takes some originality.
I was really keen to watch her play but that attitude :/ Telling viewers off for giving tips and advices was jaw dropping. Unless you are MLG, WCS etc etc champion you can refuse people to help you but she isnt even GM. Surely there are more polite ways to tell people that tips are not welcome than raging.
It takes little bit more than the fact QueenE is a female protoss to get people to tune in. Interacting with viewers in polite manner along with innovative play is far more important than the sex of a streamer. If people dont mind that attidude and prefer to watch her not her gameplay then maybe it is a new way of playing starcraft? I wish people could atleast try to understand what it means to have aspergers/autism instead of telling me how incorrect and rude I am socially. Then again, having asperger is no reason to be bm ( even though allot of people (Inc. you) with aspergers hide behind the fact that they have asperger and that its a golden ticket to just say everything. And i actually understand what asperger is ,since i have been working with someone for two years who had it aswell
Then you clearly haven't been with one with the syndrome that lacks the filter of saying stuff straight out to and about people without thinking about how it may come off to others because of lack of empathy. Telling an autist how they SHOULD act socially if like telling a legless person that they SHOULD run. It's biologically impossible to just "do" it but with training, time and prosthetics the legless person might get to something similar to running. In the same way autists can understand theoretically why they should act in a specific social manner but not naturally be able to do it.
I wish we could switch brains for a while so you could experience what living with aspergers/autism is REALLY like instead of that nice illusion of yours where everyone with this handicap is just pretending have it to be able to say fuck all.
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On July 01 2013 01:43 namste wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 01:30 QueenE wrote:On June 30 2013 07:27 inkfected wrote: While I dont agree completely with dTox I must say that attitude of QueenE really surprised me. Everyone is different and has her/his own ways of dealing with viewers but its important to point out that there is more and more streamers these days and to get someone to tune in it takes some originality.
I was really keen to watch her play but that attitude :/ Telling viewers off for giving tips and advices was jaw dropping. Unless you are MLG, WCS etc etc champion you can refuse people to help you but she isnt even GM. Surely there are more polite ways to tell people that tips are not welcome than raging.
It takes little bit more than the fact QueenE is a female protoss to get people to tune in. Interacting with viewers in polite manner along with innovative play is far more important than the sex of a streamer. If people dont mind that attidude and prefer to watch her not her gameplay then maybe it is a new way of playing starcraft? I wish people could atleast try to understand what it means to have aspergers/autism instead of telling me how incorrect and rude I am socially. Well I think a lot of people can understand if someone with a disease like Tourette's for example keeps yelling rude things to them but still they can get offended by it. I guess my point is that having some disease is a good excuse but it doesn't stop other people getting offended. Perhaps if your 'disease' makes you angry and not pleasant person to watch on stream, perhaps you maybe just should not stream? Anyways, congrats for your new team. Hopefully you have a very successful career in SC2. SC2 needs more good female players.
Then people should, much like in the tourettes case, learn to understand that most of the things that comes out of the persons mouth is not meant as harmful. It's only a lack of empathy combined with not being able to really see if something you say to or about someone might sound hurtful or rude.
They are very much entitled to feel hurt, but they should at the same time keep in mind it's not hurtful intentionally.
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On July 01 2013 02:00 iMAniaC wrote:Perhaps you should add a note on your stream page so that people will know that you have Asperger? After all, if people are unaware of it, it's no wonder if they think you're rude. A small note saying something like "I have Asperger, so I usually say exactly what I mean, be warned" or something like that should suffice (if that is they way you talk, of course. I only know one girl with Asperger and she often does that, so I'm guessing you might do it, too. If I'm wrong, just disregard what I wrote). In my experience, neuro-typical people have an easier time accepting atypical behaviour if they (we) have a "reason" for it. It's not the way it should be, I guess, but it's the way it is, so it may help to avoid misunderstanding on your stream. If you don't feel comfortable telling everyone who visits your stream that you have Asperger, then no need to include that of course, but since you brought it up yourself, I'm guessing you're pretty comfortable about it, so that's why I suggested it You could just say that you say what you mean without mentioning Asperger at all, I guess, if that's preferable.
I like that idea, thank you for the suggestion! I didn't think of it, since to me it's so obvious that I don't really understand that people doesn't think it's as obvious as I do.
Need to formulate a warning label asap to put on my stream!
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She is primarily to be an object of desire, a money mule, just a giant publicity stunt. MYinsanity knows she wont ever be a good starcraft player. They just need something after a win they just had to make people notice them again,
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On July 01 2013 03:04 Mooov99 wrote: She is primarily to be an object of desire, a money mule, just a giant publicity stunt. MYinsanity knows she wont ever be a good starcraft player. They just need something after a win they just had to make people notice them again,
Except I was recruited before Stardust won Dreamhack summer.
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We live in a damn wonderful world if accidentally hurting someones feelings slightly is such a problem that deserves a few pages of discussion. If you stream and a at least a few hundred different people from different countries with different cultural backgrounds and different past experiences watch you, you are bound to offend at least someone every time you speak. Unless you speak in extremely polite manner without saying anything meaningful, interesting, important. My humble advise to QueenE is, do not care much. As long as you are not trying to offend anyone on purpose, talk whatever you want. Time for some hypersensitive people to realize their feelings are not sacred and by no means above the freedom of speech, especially if the person talking doesn't even intend to offend you.
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What's wrong with females getting more attention when they join a team? There are so few of them in this community; it is quite natural that they get noticed more. All this hate is rather disheartening. If all you see in this thread is "just another masters player joining a team" then I could quite understand ignoring it, why so much bile? This will only discourage other aspiring female players.
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On July 01 2013 03:28 Demicore wrote: What's wrong with females getting more attention when they join a team? There are so few of them in this community; it is quite natural that they get noticed more. All this hate is rather disheartening. If all you see in this thread is "just another masters player joining a team" then I could quite understand ignoring it, why so much bile? This will only discourage other aspiring female players. There's too much negativity in this community, really. It's not just when a female joins some team, it's also when some less known team posts something, people seem to have a habit of belittling these guys. I mean, this is how we appreciate StarCraft? By all this nonsensial hate? Not everyone has the chance to be the uber top player, but there are equally passionate people, who wish to at least do what they love. The middle-ground teams & players, so to speak; semi-pros, whatever you will to call them. Without these and passionate fans, there would be no professional StarCraft, full of renown names, who get paid for what they do. Sad, that some people fail to realize that & have to act like bunch of douches... or cavemen.
I hope to live to the day, when instead of hating, we appreciate & love the game and people around it.
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It's more that these little teams recruit minor BM/female players, then blow it up on TL/Reddit in the hope of attracting pageviews/streamviews. This time, mYi just happen to have hit both the minor BM player and minor female player aspect. The main problem is that any criticisms of players like these are brushed off as "not their fault" or "just because they're female/whatever other excuse they want to use".
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On July 01 2013 02:32 QueenE wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 02:13 MrRyuzaki wrote:On July 01 2013 01:30 QueenE wrote:On June 30 2013 07:27 inkfected wrote: While I dont agree completely with dTox I must say that attitude of QueenE really surprised me. Everyone is different and has her/his own ways of dealing with viewers but its important to point out that there is more and more streamers these days and to get someone to tune in it takes some originality.
I was really keen to watch her play but that attitude :/ Telling viewers off for giving tips and advices was jaw dropping. Unless you are MLG, WCS etc etc champion you can refuse people to help you but she isnt even GM. Surely there are more polite ways to tell people that tips are not welcome than raging.
It takes little bit more than the fact QueenE is a female protoss to get people to tune in. Interacting with viewers in polite manner along with innovative play is far more important than the sex of a streamer. If people dont mind that attidude and prefer to watch her not her gameplay then maybe it is a new way of playing starcraft? I wish people could atleast try to understand what it means to have aspergers/autism instead of telling me how incorrect and rude I am socially. Then again, having asperger is no reason to be bm ( even though allot of people (Inc. you) with aspergers hide behind the fact that they have asperger and that its a golden ticket to just say everything. And i actually understand what asperger is ,since i have been working with someone for two years who had it aswell Then you clearly haven't been with one with the syndrome that lacks the filter of saying stuff straight out to and about people without thinking about how it may come off to others because of lack of empathy. Telling an autist how they SHOULD act socially if like telling a legless person that they SHOULD run. It's biologically impossible to just "do" it but with training, time and prosthetics the legless person might get to something similar to running. In the same way autists can understand theoretically why they should act in a specific social manner but not naturally be able to do it. I wish we could switch brains for a while so you could experience what living with aspergers/autism is REALLY like instead of that nice illusion of yours where everyone with this handicap is just pretending have it to be able to say fuck all.
I have not been saying that everyone uses it as an excuse but the people i have witnessed in his direct circle there were allot of them who found it easy when they felt like they did something wrong to hide behind it. Besides the fact that i never told you how you should act ( nor do i care how you act since i nominated myself for biggest douche in the universe)
Also i fully understand its not understandable for me and it's insanely hard to be able to work with someone who has asperger. However you need to understand that we won't ( for the most of us) understand.
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On July 01 2013 03:53 oGsTrueSmug wrote: It's more that these little teams recruit minor BM/female players, then blow it up on TL/Reddit in the hope of attracting pageviews/streamviews. This time, mYi just happen to have hit both the minor BM player and minor female player aspect. The main problem is that any criticisms of players like these are brushed off as "not their fault" or "just because they're female/whatever other excuse they want to use".
yeah because so many people said that QueenE being a female excuses her for bm... what?
wtf does blowing up on reddit mean they make a TL thread, they make a reddit thread. If people upvote the reddit thread, thats in the redditors hands if people, like yourself, keep on bumping the TL thread, that is their (and your) choice as well. I dont see anyone from mYi bumping this TL thread, its just people coming in to attack her, or queene or others arguing against those people.
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Congratulations, no idea why some people are so butthurt.
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She's amazingly dedicated and has talent, she surely deserves to be on mYinsanity and I congratulate her for this. I say in order to encourage female players to get into this esport thingy, to be accepted (although the very toxic community towards females) into this community we have going on, we must create other female players into being a rolemodel for female players out there.
You know, someone to look up to. If you had the slightest idea of how many females approaching maddelisk and queene saying "Hey, I got into this thanks to you, you're an inspiration to me to keep being better" you'd understand. If you think it's unfair the some female players gets better contracts than your very talented mid-master skills then tough life. Life is not fair. But of course, if we wanna keep this scene male dominated let's keep being narrow minded and toxic against these kinds of signings. Sigh.
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@OP congrats and good luck for the future!
On July 01 2013 03:53 oGsTrueSmug wrote: It's more that these little teams recruit minor BM/female players, then blow it up on TL/Reddit in the hope of attracting pageviews/streamviews. This time, mYi just happen to have hit both the minor BM player and minor female player aspect. The main problem is that any criticisms of players like these are brushed off as "not their fault" or "just because they're female/whatever other excuse they want to use".
It's called PR! Teams make announcements all the time. Every team is allowed to do so and should do it. It creates content for the scene and creates attention for the team and its sponsors.
Also, I have my problems with classifying mYinsanity as a small team (not that it would matter as stated above). They support a team house in the middle of Europe. That alone makes them a big player in Europe.
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All this negativity surrounding autism and aspergers syndrome. Despite the obvious hardships that come with such a diagnosis it also has its positive aspects, for example i reckon it should be beneficiary rather than the opposite when playing SC2, but hey that's just my view
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On July 01 2013 04:39 eurTsItniH wrote: Congratulations, no idea why some people are so butthurt.
People are butthurt because she got boobs and they believe thats the only reason she can make it into a team like mYi. Personally, I believe she's not a top player and obviously there's marketing to it, but she does play the game, seems to be passionate and I personally don't have a problem with her being on mYi.
People are probably jealous or dumb, maybe both. I can understand that some people feel like its easier to get on a proteam as girl even though you don't have the skills you would need as a male and I would agree there, but if you think about being a female, I'm pretty sure she does her best to improve and its not really fair towards her to call her out on mYi recruiting her.
GL to QueenE
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I really dislike her... she is acting very douchy in this thread, also she is a midmaster player which is barely worth mentioning. In my opinion just another player we won't hear anything of ever besides the obvious knockout in Round 1 / 2 but let's see.
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On July 01 2013 17:22 Enema wrote: I really dislike her... she is acting very douchy in this thread, also she is a midmaster player which is barely worth mentioning. In my opinion just another player we won't hear anything of ever besides the obvious knockout in Round 1 / 2 but let's see.
Just out of curiousity, do you believe high master or grandmaster besides top 16 / top 32 (or those that can potentially be there, but focus more on customs) are worth mentioning? Its about ambition, its about aims and goals. Not every person can be a high grandmaster or high master.
Really I don't want to white knight her, because she's a girl but a Starcraft player. I've never watched her stream and I couldn't care less if she is douchy or not (the replies I read here didn't come off as douchy) but in what world is there a reason to bring hate to this thread. (Last part not especially towards you, but I could name hundrets of players on good teams that are nothing but a round 1 k/O)
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My opinion is that the discussion should be elsewhere. Someone should go make a QueenE fan/hate page or something and take their discussions over there, because you're not talking about the news.
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On July 01 2013 17:35 Xapti wrote: My opinion is that the discussion should be elsewhere. Someone should go make a QueenE fan/hate page or something and take their discussions over there, because you're not talking about the news. I don't think we need hate pages.
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On July 01 2013 17:28 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 17:22 Enema wrote: I really dislike her... she is acting very douchy in this thread, also she is a midmaster player which is barely worth mentioning. In my opinion just another player we won't hear anything of ever besides the obvious knockout in Round 1 / 2 but let's see. Just out of curiousity, do you believe high master or grandmaster besides top 16 / top 32 (or those that can potentially be there, but focus more on customs) are worth mentioning? Its about ambition, its about aims and goals. Not every person can be a high grandmaster or high master. Really I don't want to white knight her, because she's a girl but a Starcraft player. I've never watched her stream and I couldn't care less if she is douchy or not (the replies I read here didn't come off as douchy) but in what world is there a reason to bring hate to this thread. (Last part not especially towards you, but I could name hundrets of players on good teams that are nothing but a round 1 k/O) This is about a Person joining a Progamer Team... If you join a Team I think you should bring something to the table. What we get is an unknown mid master league player of which there are multiple thousands all over the world. I don't want to be disrespectful. I can see why a Team wants to present their players, but if the discussion is not:"Congrats on the great pickup looking forward to your results / improvements". But instead:"Well another esports personality, let's give them some pageviews.", then I dont quite get the point of it being on Teamliquid.
This feels more like an advertisement than a player signing. Then again maybe it's always both.
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On July 01 2013 17:43 Enema wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 17:28 NarutO wrote:On July 01 2013 17:22 Enema wrote: I really dislike her... she is acting very douchy in this thread, also she is a midmaster player which is barely worth mentioning. In my opinion just another player we won't hear anything of ever besides the obvious knockout in Round 1 / 2 but let's see. Just out of curiousity, do you believe high master or grandmaster besides top 16 / top 32 (or those that can potentially be there, but focus more on customs) are worth mentioning? Its about ambition, its about aims and goals. Not every person can be a high grandmaster or high master. Really I don't want to white knight her, because she's a girl but a Starcraft player. I've never watched her stream and I couldn't care less if she is douchy or not (the replies I read here didn't come off as douchy) but in what world is there a reason to bring hate to this thread. (Last part not especially towards you, but I could name hundrets of players on good teams that are nothing but a round 1 k/O) This is about a Person joining a Progamer Team... If you join a Team I think you should bring something to the table. What we get is an unknown mid master league player of which there are multiple thousands all over the world. I don't want to be disrespectful. I can see why a Team wants to present their players, but if the discussion is not:"Congrats on the great pickup looking forward to your results / improvements". But instead:"Well another esports personality, let's give them some pageviews.", then I dont quite get the point of it being on Teamliquid. This feels more like an advertisement than a player signing. Then again maybe it's always both.
She's on the B-Team ...
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On July 01 2013 17:52 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 17:43 Enema wrote:On July 01 2013 17:28 NarutO wrote:On July 01 2013 17:22 Enema wrote: I really dislike her... she is acting very douchy in this thread, also she is a midmaster player which is barely worth mentioning. In my opinion just another player we won't hear anything of ever besides the obvious knockout in Round 1 / 2 but let's see. Just out of curiousity, do you believe high master or grandmaster besides top 16 / top 32 (or those that can potentially be there, but focus more on customs) are worth mentioning? Its about ambition, its about aims and goals. Not every person can be a high grandmaster or high master. Really I don't want to white knight her, because she's a girl but a Starcraft player. I've never watched her stream and I couldn't care less if she is douchy or not (the replies I read here didn't come off as douchy) but in what world is there a reason to bring hate to this thread. (Last part not especially towards you, but I could name hundrets of players on good teams that are nothing but a round 1 k/O) This is about a Person joining a Progamer Team... If you join a Team I think you should bring something to the table. What we get is an unknown mid master league player of which there are multiple thousands all over the world. I don't want to be disrespectful. I can see why a Team wants to present their players, but if the discussion is not:"Congrats on the great pickup looking forward to your results / improvements". But instead:"Well another esports personality, let's give them some pageviews.", then I dont quite get the point of it being on Teamliquid. This feels more like an advertisement than a player signing. Then again maybe it's always both. She's on the B-Team ... Which is the entire point i am trying to make...
Anyways let's leave it as it is. Not like teams are going to stop posting their B or C team signings of players nobody knows, if they know the team at all. To clarify... I am swiss so I obviously know the Team.
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If teams just sign big names all the discussion they get is that they don't support aspiring talents yet if a team gets someone rather unknown on their B-team or on their academy or whatever they choose to call it, they get the kind of discussion we have at our hands.
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On July 01 2013 18:02 tar wrote: If teams just sign big names all the discussion they get is that they don't support aspiring talents yet if a team gets someone rather unknown on their B-team or on their academy or whatever they choose to call it, they get the kind of discussion we have at our hands.
EG signs Xenocider. You could call him an aspiring talent. Yet he actually shows "some" skill. He posts results, he is a noteable signup, he is a player we can look forward to. MYI signs Queene. You could call her somebody who plays Starcraft. She doesn't really show any skill or results.
There is a difference between a PR Signing or a Signing of a Player like Heromarine or Xenocider.
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I don't see how what you just posted is related to what I said.
If a team signs someone they have any right to publish that piece of information. whether they sign someone for PR or because they want to build up on that players talent (which they might see yet others don't) is entirely up to them.
The way a lot of ppl react to signings,however, is just unfair to the teams. EG has been blamed for years for their signing policy and other teams have been talked down to because of the fact they signed "some random NA GM". Let them make their decisions, they will have reasons for it. If you disagree with them, well that's your personal opinion, don't try to hide it beneath an argument that what they do is of no relevance to the community or the game. Not all players out there are of the quality of a Heromarine or Xenocider (yet) but isn't it rather inspiring to see that lesser known and developed players are given a chance by a pro team?
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Don't hate on queene or myinsanity, hate the community you are part of. You are the ones chosing to comment on this. Queene is better than half of our B-team, and since we got "bigger" we've made threads about all our new recruits.
We recruited stardust around the same time and made a similar post, which got 3 pages on TL. No one gave a shit, despite being a previous kespa player who has beaten flash... twice. There was your results and talent who no one wanted to give a chance, but we picked him up. Where were you then Enema? It's interesting how many people turn up to hate and say you should support "skill", bringing threads to hundreds of posts filled with pitch black hate... While stardusts thread got a good 30 replies before he won dreamhack.
YOU are the ones making it a big deal, not QueenE or mYi. If you want it to be about only the best of the best, then go on those announcements and show your support.
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Or... just decide not to hate at all!
Agree with everything else you said though /thread please, this is just going in circles and the news is old
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On July 01 2013 20:32 nkr wrote: Don't hate on queene or myinsanity, hate the community you are part of. You are the ones chosing to comment on this. Queene is better than half of our B-team, and since we got "bigger" we've made threads about all our new recruits.
We recruited stardust around the same time and made a similar post, which got 3 pages on TL. No one gave a shit, despite being a previous kespa player who has beaten flash... twice. There was your results and talent who no one wanted to give a chance, but we picked him up. Where were you then Enema? It's interesting how many people turn up to hate and say you should support "skill", bringing threads to hundreds of posts filled with pitch black hate... While stardusts thread got a good 30 replies before he won dreamhack.
YOU are the ones making it a big deal, not QueenE or mYi. If you want it to be about only the best of the best, then go on those announcements and show your support. I cant commentate on every single thread sorry. I only look at the Sidebar sometimes.
Anyways best of luck with whatever you will do with her.
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that was not the point, but I guess explaining it to you would take far too long for the both of us
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I think all the hate on QueenE based on her stream is completely unjustified.
Yes I realize for some her stream rules may seem extreme and some people might be uncomfortable with them. But the rules are not there so she has excuse to justify her actions, they're there to prevent them/stop the haters. It's illogical for people to complain about the hate you get for breaking the rules of a persons stream. It's not a perfect analogy but you'd never go into someones house and break the rules then be like yo wtf why you mad? It's an unreasonable thing to do to most people, even if this is the internet.
Now saying all that I'll be the first to admit I'm not a promoter of hate/rage and I don't believe two wrongs make a right but to go out and attack her based on her immediate reactions to it is completely unfair because realistically, we've all done the exact same thing in the past (myself included). I'm sure people will read most of this and be like herp derp thanks captain obvious and thats good, whats clearly not obvious to everyone is you now have to apply the aspergers to the situation, like the 'filtering' Queene spoke of already (She already explained it well so I don't have to) which makes what she says sometimes come off as extreme. And on top of the aspergers a lot of people don't take into account the sexism problem we have with our industry (I'm not going to directly talk about it cause thats another topic), I'm sure everyone has seen examples of it already, like just go to Queene's or any other female streamers chat and you'll see it. What I'm sure of though is how little people realize, thats just the very tip of the iceberg. The amount of shit female gamers get directly (private) from males is pretty repulsive, just ask them. So you can't blame them for being very cynical and intolerant when guys say even very mild comments regarding gender.
So yeah overall when you take everything into account I can 100% see why Queene reacts the way she does, and yes I said I'm not a promoter of rage and yes when it gets extreme I get a little uncomfortable sometimes but I think as a viewer is pretty irrelevant, if I don't like it I can just stop watching the stream.
As someone mentioned, I like the idea of how she could add she has aspergers to her stream info which is a very double edged sword, more people would of course be understand and accepting if they knew but at the same time, you're also giving more ammunition to the haters.
On July 01 2013 17:43 Enema wrote:
This feels more like an advertisement than a player signing. Then again maybe it's always both.
You realize that is the exact point of all this right? Teams get money from sponsors to advertise their brand with their image, the bigger your image, the more $$$ your worth. mYi is promoting their image with this signing and the point everyone is trying to make is 'image' isn't 100% about results achieved, theres many factors that come into play.
Post below gives a very solid answer as well.
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On July 01 2013 17:55 Enema wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 17:52 NarutO wrote:On July 01 2013 17:43 Enema wrote:On July 01 2013 17:28 NarutO wrote:On July 01 2013 17:22 Enema wrote: I really dislike her... she is acting very douchy in this thread, also she is a midmaster player which is barely worth mentioning. In my opinion just another player we won't hear anything of ever besides the obvious knockout in Round 1 / 2 but let's see. Just out of curiousity, do you believe high master or grandmaster besides top 16 / top 32 (or those that can potentially be there, but focus more on customs) are worth mentioning? Its about ambition, its about aims and goals. Not every person can be a high grandmaster or high master. Really I don't want to white knight her, because she's a girl but a Starcraft player. I've never watched her stream and I couldn't care less if she is douchy or not (the replies I read here didn't come off as douchy) but in what world is there a reason to bring hate to this thread. (Last part not especially towards you, but I could name hundrets of players on good teams that are nothing but a round 1 k/O) This is about a Person joining a Progamer Team... If you join a Team I think you should bring something to the table. What we get is an unknown mid master league player of which there are multiple thousands all over the world. I don't want to be disrespectful. I can see why a Team wants to present their players, but if the discussion is not:"Congrats on the great pickup looking forward to your results / improvements". But instead:"Well another esports personality, let's give them some pageviews.", then I dont quite get the point of it being on Teamliquid. This feels more like an advertisement than a player signing. Then again maybe it's always both. She's on the B-Team ... Which is the entire point i am trying to make... Anyways let's leave it as it is. Not like teams are going to stop posting their B or C team signings of players nobody knows, if they know the team at all. To clarify... I am swiss so I obviously know the Team.
You and other people in this thread are making all the fuss about this announcement. The announcement in itself was essential and not different from any other players'. It's normal for a team house to announce new people joining. You're implying that they're taking advantage of the fact she's a girl to advertise themselves, but in fact her skill level is similar to the other b-team players, and she got the same treatment like every other player, so eventually you're the one who is discriminating her with your arguing.
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.... i guess mYi lost my respect...
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.... i guess mYi lost my respect...
What happened to you? :D
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Was watching this for some days now, if someone REALLY has a problem with this im more than open to talk about it, therefore send me a message or add me on skype, otherwise you obviously dont care.
If there is a mod around i would like him to close this thread.
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Congrats to her. I hope to see her in some major tourneys soon.
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On July 17 2013 19:32 rMo wrote: Was watching this for some days now, if someone REALLY has a problem with this im more than open to talk about it, therefore send me a message or add me on skype, otherwise you obviously dont care.
If there is a mod around i would like him to close this thread.
already reported the thread a while ago, nothing happened :/
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I lost respect for mYi over this decision.
I went to QueenE's stream after she did a showmatch with another streamer I regularly watch. When she was talking with her chat about the build I pointed out a flaw in it as a number of other people were doing with the aim of being helpful to her. She was initially fine and spoke to me specifically to me about it and but when suddenly decided to insult me and ban me from her chat when she disagreed with me. She then moved onto insulting the player she just lost to who happened to be a Gold level student of hers then she started fighting with other people in her chat, I decided to leave and was done with that.
The thing is it did not stop there, she came into the other streams chat a few minutes later and tried to engage me in the chat there. She even went as far as to Skype the stream owner asking him to ban me and others and to tell all his viewers not to go to her Stream.
I came here after reading the recent mYi recruitment announcement made on reddit where this particular thread came up. My Insanity have decided to put there name to a player who behaves like this and as a result I wont be a fan and I'm glad to see that other members of the community feel the same and have spoken up as well.
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If you have a problem with a player, it's generally best to write the management and provide some evidence. Resurrecting a dead thread is pretty pointless, and without any evidence personally I'm not going to buy that considering that while she is streaming, a lot of the time at least one person in the house will have it open and we haven't seen any evidence of such behaviour. If you have a real problem, as rMo wrote about 2 weeks ago, write the management to raise any concerns.
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Northern Ireland20509 Posts
I'm with PengWin on this, I mean I don't even.
You won't support them because you want the right to tell her how to play the game, and she just banned you because of that?
Sounds legit.
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