These are the complete groups for the 2013 WCS KR Season 3 Code S Ro32. Maru has chosen Sleep to join Group D and Rain has chosen SonGDuri to join Group G.
edit: MaruPIRME fighting! :D edit2: So jjakji has to play First first (zing!) and then probably Flash. Not the easiest path, but should be doable. Nice that he gets to see First's PvT in WCS finals!
Those groups, sweet mercy, this is going to rock. Most of the groups look fairly balanced but man E and F really take the cake here, greatly looking forward to those!
this season seems to have a lot of unexpected players. the groups look a bit weird, most of them have at least one clear underdog. c and f look strongest
Holly molly, those groups. Just some interesting notes: Soulkey and Parting once again may end up meeting each other (and i do not know, who dislikes this more, Soulkey or Parting lol) (More fun: Soulkey vs Parting @Ro8 at season 1, Soulkey vs Parting @Ro16 at season 2 and may end being Soulkey vs Parting @ Ro32 at season 3). First and hyvaa in same group... again. And so are True and KangHo (from S1), Innovation and Gumibear (from S1). And maru with easy group. Did he absorb Mvp's magic or something!?
On August 21 2013 18:18 lolfail9001 wrote: First and hyvaa in same group... again. And so are True and KangHo (from S1), Innovation and Gumibear (from S1). And maru with easy group. Did he absorb Mvp's magic or something!?
maru got to choose his first opponent. bbyong and dream aren't pushovers though, but i guess they're easier than some other tier 2/3 opponents
E, F, and H all looks pretty scary for group of death.
I vote for F though. Innovation is innovation. DRG looked stellar in the up & downs. Gumiho is such a wildcard he could take out anybody, and I think herO has put up some good results recently.
It is strange though, this season of premier seems.... weaker than the previous season for some reason.
On August 21 2013 18:18 lolfail9001 wrote: First and hyvaa in same group... again. And so are True and KangHo (from S1), Innovation and Gumibear (from S1). And maru with easy group. Did he absorb Mvp's magic or something!?
maru got to choose his first opponent. bbyong and dream aren't pushovers though, but i guess they're easier than some other tier 2/3 opponents
I mean, that he got 2 terrans with relatively horrible tvt in his group. i consider zerg walkover in Kr TvZ for now, especially the one, who got there without playing ZvT :D
On August 21 2013 18:18 lolfail9001 wrote: First and hyvaa in same group... again. And so are True and KangHo (from S1), Innovation and Gumibear (from S1). And maru with easy group. Did he absorb Mvp's magic or something!?
maru got to choose his first opponent. bbyong and dream aren't pushovers though, but i guess they're easier than some other tier 2/3 opponents
I have been saying it since I first saw him play in SC2, bbyong can win the WCS. He is my clide.
On August 21 2013 18:18 lolfail9001 wrote: First and hyvaa in same group... again. And so are True and KangHo (from S1), Innovation and Gumibear (from S1). And maru with easy group. Did he absorb Mvp's magic or something!?
maru got to choose his first opponent. bbyong and dream aren't pushovers though, but i guess they're easier than some other tier 2/3 opponents
I have been saying it since I first saw him play in SC2, bbyong can win the WCS. He is my clide.
Dammit, you are not Artosis after all, to make he sure he never wins WCS (seriously, it will be more hilarious, than jjakji winning this season :d).
so many uninterested groups... best example is group f, 4 interested player in a group means 3 other uninterested groups for me. Its better for me if in every group is one (minimum) interested player.
Uhhhh, Maru too godly. Instead of taking the name "Optimus" he switched his whole Team's name to "Pirme"!
Rain and Soulkey should be very happy about their groups. Both of them can completely focus on their ZvP. Will be interesting to see group E. I think First and flash will make it out, but hyvaa is a wildcard and jjakji's TvT has always been quite good, right? So I guess a lot of it will come down to who plays who and how not to lose the coinflips agains hyvaa.
My predictions currently would be: Soulkey, Swagger Trap, Keen sOs, SuperNova Maru, Bbyong First, flash InnoVation, Gumiho Rain, KangHo Super, soo
Well this is unfortunate... and here I was excited that DRG was in the premier league again. That's a tough group for him, here's hoping he overcome's the odds!
Group F is the group of hype, not the group of death. I see 3 top, but pretty inconsitent players, and a champion, who has been shown to have obvious weaknesses. It is tricky group to predict, but it is nowhere near the death level of Parting/Life/Innovation/Flash (at the time that happened ). The othres are also pretty balanced, but that is not too surprising in a real GSL. Good games ahead!
i find group E and group C to be the most dangerous ..
group F has innovation but innovation is the only crazy level there .. DRG is the next closest to innovation in their group and he is not presenting results nowadays
On August 21 2013 22:38 SamirDuran wrote: I dont see any group of death.
I didn't want to be the first to say it because everyone says Group F is insane. I feel like Innovation should roll it if he plays his best, and the other three will battle it out for second. DRG, hero, and Gumiho just haven't been playing their best recently.
On August 21 2013 22:48 RaFox17 wrote: Only thing that i´m worrying is how many zerg´s will be left in R16... There will be a lot of T and P in the later stages. (also)
I only predict 3 zergs to make it out of the round of 32: Symbol, Soulkey, and TRUE.
DRG hasn't been top tier zerg for a looong time. Cj_hero is a monster when he's playing well, like Gumiho, but both of them are usually average. Innovation should roll his group tbh.
On August 21 2013 22:48 RaFox17 wrote: Only thing that i´m worrying is how many zerg´s will be left in R16... There will be a lot of T and P in the later stages. (also)
I only predict 3 zergs to make it out of the round of 32: Symbol, Soulkey, and TRUE.
On August 21 2013 22:48 RaFox17 wrote: Only thing that i´m worrying is how many zerg´s will be left in R16... There will be a lot of T and P in the later stages. (also)
I only predict 3 zergs to make it out of the round of 32: Symbol, Soulkey, and TRUE.
Group B has value in terms of any one of those players can make it out of that group which should make it good fun to watch. Also love the way Losira always manages to get a ZvZ group xD
lol that gom writes HerO wrong xD (its herO not HerO) ^^ thats funny
On August 21 2013 18:56 Dingodile wrote:
so many uninterested groups... best example is group f, 4 interested player in a group means 3 other uninterested groups for me. Its better for me if in every group is one (minimum) interested player.
yaeh but everyone has other "intresting" players ^^
I hope Sleep pulls off an upset! He's got 3 Terrans so he does have the advantage of only needing to prepare 1 matchup, but with Maru, Dream, and Bbyong it should be tough.
On August 21 2013 22:48 RaFox17 wrote: Only thing that i´m worrying is how many zerg´s will be left in R16... There will be a lot of T and P in the later stages. (also)
I only predict 3 zergs to make it out of the round of 32: Symbol, Soulkey, and TRUE.
soo is gonna slip through! No clue how.
I hope not I'd be happy with any combination of two without soo. Nothing against him, I just really like the other three.
On August 22 2013 01:07 MapleLeafSirup wrote: group F doesn't really look harder than the rest of the groups, I think it is the names and their popularity that influences the forum users.
looking at it again I think C or H might actually be harder overall, I can't change my vote though lol
Pendulum swings into the other direction apparently, and for people really afraid of Zerg coming under the bus - Blizzard is already on the job with a balance test map.
LOL how is group F the group of death. Innovation a class above DRG hasn't shown nearly as high of a level of play as before, and even then he would still hard-pressed I beat innovation. Hero and gumiho are good, but not even close to DRG.
On August 22 2013 02:28 SorrowShine wrote: Where did maru got his 5000 gsl points? And no real group of death imho. Nothing beats flash, innovation,parting and life from s1.
On August 22 2013 02:28 SorrowShine wrote: Where did maru got his 5000 gsl points? And no real group of death imho. Nothing beats flash, innovation,parting and life from s1.
I dunno... winning the last season of WCS?
It is interesting that GSL points were awarded for an OSL season. (whereas they didn't count it for NesTea award status)
On August 21 2013 18:10 DJHelium wrote: So everyone agrees group f = group of death?
Good.
edit: MaruPIRME fighting! :D edit2: So jjakji has to play First first (zing!) and then probably Flash. Not the easiest path, but should be doable. Nice that he gets to see First's PvT in WCS finals!
You mean the same one that got extremely dominated and outplayed by Bomber? Yeah, I am so stoked to see that world class best PvT in the world too.
On August 22 2013 02:28 SorrowShine wrote: Where did maru got his 5000 gsl points? And no real group of death imho. Nothing beats flash, innovation,parting and life from s1.
I dunno... winning the last season of WCS?
It is interesting that GSL points were awarded for an OSL season. (whereas they didn't count it for NesTea award status)
Interesting point. BTW. Isn´t it WCS points? Or this GSL points are something diferent? If so, Maru got his points on OSL?
On August 22 2013 02:28 SorrowShine wrote: Where did maru got his 5000 gsl points? And no real group of death imho. Nothing beats flash, innovation,parting and life from s1.
I dunno... winning the last season of WCS?
It is interesting that GSL points were awarded for an OSL season. (whereas they didn't count it for NesTea award status)
Well, while the NesTea award status is just a prestigeous one which shows how strong the player was in GSL, the GSL points are used for seeding purposes as well - so of course Maru gets them in OSL as well :-P
On August 22 2013 02:28 SorrowShine wrote: Where did maru got his 5000 gsl points? And no real group of death imho. Nothing beats flash, innovation,parting and life from s1.
I dunno... winning the last season of WCS?
It is interesting that GSL points were awarded for an OSL season. (whereas they didn't count it for NesTea award status)
Actually, didnt realize they were GSL points and not WCS points. Maybe it includes from WoL too?
On August 22 2013 02:28 SorrowShine wrote: Where did maru got his 5000 gsl points? And no real group of death imho. Nothing beats flash, innovation,parting and life from s1.
I dunno... winning the last season of WCS?
It is interesting that GSL points were awarded for an OSL season. (whereas they didn't count it for NesTea award status)
Actually, didnt realize they were GSL points and not WCS points. Maybe it includes from WoL too?
On August 22 2013 02:28 SorrowShine wrote: Where did maru got his 5000 gsl points? And no real group of death imho. Nothing beats flash, innovation,parting and life from s1.
Group F is close its Innovation + 3 good guys that fallen off. If they play like they did at their Prime then sure its group of Death, but if i see HoTS DRG, Nervous HerO, and Gumiho playing like anyone else but himself Ill be disappointed.
Group F is strong no doubt, but honestly when was the last time DRG or Gumiho won anything? I've seen herO play in proleague but nowhere else really. None of these groups are that great to be honest.
On August 22 2013 08:55 Corsica wrote: I say there is no group of Death.
Group F is close its Innovation + 3 good guys that fallen off. If they play like they did at their Prime then sure its group of Death, but if i see HoTS DRG, Nervous HerO, and Gumiho playing like anyone else but himself Ill be disappointed.
herO gets nervous? you sure you're not mistaking him as Liquid HerO? This is CJ Entus herO.
I agree anyway tho. Neither DRG, herO nor Gumiho were even in the OSL so hardly "group of death".
On August 22 2013 10:34 Havik_ wrote: Group F is strong no doubt, but honestly when was the last time DRG or Gumiho won anything? I've seen herO play in proleague but nowhere else really. None of these groups are that great to be honest.
Well, i remember Gumiho 4-0ing group with Hyun, Innovation and Rain. So if there is right Gumiho on spot, this group gets really deadly.... for herO and DRG :D
ummm there is no group of death... why is there even such a poll? a group of death shouldn't be every season. when a true group of death comes out, it shouldn't even be contested
On August 22 2013 14:45 asdfOu wrote: ummm there is no group of death... why is there even such a poll? a group of death shouldn't be every season. when a true group of death comes out, it shouldn't even be contested
I disagree, but clearly some groups will be more deadly than others. Most recent one that comes to mind was Innovation, Flash, Life, and Parting.
Some group predictions of my own A: Soulkey, Parting B:Symbol, Keen C:SoS, Supernova D:Maru,Dream E:First,Flash F:Hero,DRG G:Kang-ho, True H:Bomber,Soo
Kinda hard to predict some of these that is for sure, but I think DRG is due to resurge as a top zerg player in the world and well if he wins his way out of that group that would be impressive.
On August 22 2013 22:46 HeeroFX wrote: Group of death is by far group F
Some group predictions of my own A: Soulkey, Parting B:Symbol, Keen C:SoS, Supernova D:Maru,Dream E:First,Flash F:Hero,DRG G:Kang-ho, True H:Bomber,Soo
Kinda hard to predict some of these that is for sure, but I think DRG is due to resurge as a top zerg player in the world and well if he wins his way out of that group that would be impressive.
i don't understand how group f is the group of death by far. group E has 3 returning code S players, 2 of which didn't even need to go to the up and down matches...
On August 22 2013 14:45 asdfOu wrote: ummm there is no group of death... why is there even such a poll? a group of death shouldn't be every season. when a true group of death comes out, it shouldn't even be contested
While i can agree with you, i can also say "Group Of Death" is a expression used everytime you have more good players than spots to the next round. Its used a lot in world cup (Football). And one can say group F have 3 real top tier players, and 2 spots.