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Gamegene
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Goodbye Sting. You really were #1 in my heart Favorite Terran Player: Western Wolves Sting Formerly NHSH, Sting first caught my eye during the TSL4 RO16. On his first game vs Darkforce, he successfully proxied a supply depot and barracks, bunker rushed DarkForcE in his own main base, and somehow managed to transition into a 3 base timing attack that murdered the zerg's army. I was laughing the entire time, at the audacity of this nameless, teamless Korean Terran, to actually pull something like that in a tournament. And yet, from there on, he continued to impress me, as he showed full competence in being able to play a best of series, crushing DarkForce and the IM favorite First. As I was eagerly watching the semifinals, I realized that this was a terran who I could follow to the ends of the Earth. Versus Creator Prime and as a teamless player with little fame before this tournament, Sting showcased truely one of the greatest TvP series of all time. In a full best of 7, Sting played his heart out, showing us amazingly well thought out anti-Creator build orders, from hellion marine elevators, 3 command center builds, to marauder openings. Sting cleverly analyzed his Protoss opponent's PvT style, tendencies, observer movements, and responded with a mix of mind games, abusive openings, meticious mid game timings timings and unit movements/positioning. <br /><br />Although he proceeded to lose the series 2-4 (the only player besides Life to force losses from Creator), Sting won my heart and loyalty that day. A favored practice partner of many fan favorite players such as MMA, HerO, Taeja, Symbol, and even Creator; Sting is my favorite player to watch and learn from. <br /><br />He has a complete terran arsenal, having the ability to pull anything out of the hat from all ins to standard to greed, and the several weird variations in between. Sting manages to execute all of these, with good Korean Terran mechanics, which you'll see most in TvZ, where he musters up impossible armies despite being at a disadvantage. Unlike a lot of build order dependent players however, Sting sets himself apart from the coL.Hearts out there by making smart choices constantly throughout his games. Accurately predicting his opponents moves, planning 2 steps ahead, he is able to constantly be a thorn in his opponents side. Exploiting his opponents weaknesses, sidestepping their strengths instead of looking for holes in them, Sting is a player who is always thinking and adjusting accordingly. You will see him making many quirky decisions throughout a game that end up being brilliant. Not only is Sting exceptionally talented at the game, he is a humble and generous person outside of it. In any of his interviews, you'll find that despite being soft spoken, he shows a lot of passion to do his very best for himself and his fans. I'm proud to call Joo Hoon (주훈) WW.Sting my favorite player. | ||
Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Never forget the tightrope terran yo, always keeping matches on the edge | ||
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LimeMouse
United States2 Posts
gl Sting ! | ||
Clbull
United Kingdom1436 Posts
On December 23 2013 03:44 LimeMouse wrote: How many friggen Terrans are going to retire? gl Sting ! As many as is needed for Blizzard to finally step in and change the status quo. I don't think it's a coincidence that it's mainly terrans retiring. I'd imagine many of them got tired of being forced to aggressively throw Tier 1 units at an opponent in an attempt to prevent them from getting Tier 3 deathballs because higher tier Terran units are mediocre-at-best. I'm not calling Protoss or Zerg OP. I am confident Terran is capable of winning games. It's just that I as a viewer and a mid-level player love playing terran but hate the lack of playstyle choices, being forced to play bio or biomine. Look at almost every TvZ/TvP since HotS. Bio versus ling/bling/muta or Protoss deathball. TvP has (since Wings) been mandated around constant multi pronged runby and drop harassment done in order to contain the opponent and attempt to cripple or halt their production/tech. Meanwhile, Protoss have the option to drop too and considering the nature of Warp Gates) have superior base harassment capabilities to Terran or at least would have if it weren't for Stimivacs. I wish Sting luck in future, whether he decides to play BW, LoL, Dota 2, Poker, WoT or enlist in the military. | ||
TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7519 Posts
On December 23 2013 02:47 JacobShock wrote: not unexpected to me, the game is over saturated with good players. these players a tier below will have a hard time competing for wages. Way over saturated | ||
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DiMano
Korea (South)2065 Posts
On December 23 2013 03:44 LimeMouse wrote: How many friggen Terrans are going to retire? gl Sting ! It is not about race here. | ||
Zealously
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People will always make it about the race as long as it's Terran | ||
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DiMano
Korea (South)2065 Posts
Let's be honest here. All pros from Korea are here: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:DiMano 54 43 49 There are only 146 progamers in Korea. For me it is not a lot. 80 players can be in GSL so only 66 players left, 29 korean players are in WCS AM and EU so in total we have only 37 players without any league. | ||
Zealously
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On December 23 2013 04:51 DiMano wrote: Let's be honest here. All pros from Korea are here: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:DiMano 54 43 49 There are only 146 progamers in Korea. For me it is not a lot. 80 players can be in GSL so only 66 players left, 29 korean players are in WCS AM and EU so in total we have only 37 players without any league. And from those 37, we can probably assume that at least 20 won't be playing in any tournaments overseas. What do they do? The problem is, there's not much they can do. | ||
PVJ
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DiMano
Korea (South)2065 Posts
On December 23 2013 04:54 Zealously wrote: And from those 37, we can probably assume that at least 20 won't be playing in any tournaments overseas. What do they do? The problem is, there's not much they can do. I worry so much about those 37 that is why we need the 2nd league in Korea (OGN wake up, we need you). | ||
Seeker
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On December 23 2013 03:44 LimeMouse wrote: How many friggen former NSH players are going to retire? FTFY | ||
Mvrio
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JustPassingBy
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So it's time to slide a couple of players to the next game? | ||
SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
GL to him. I will miss you Sting T_T | ||
Halozination
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On December 23 2013 06:07 SHOOG wrote: Damn it. Sting was by far one of my favorite terrans. Loved watching him play. GL to him. I will miss you Sting T_T same. | ||
TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On December 23 2013 04:14 Clbull wrote: As many as is needed for Blizzard to finally step in and change the status quo. . 5? Am I missing something? There's like 4 listed on liquipedia retired in the last 2 months and Sting makes 5. There are more Protoss retiring than Terran, so what's your point? | ||
quebecman77
Canada133 Posts
another terran out, how many still playing ?? | ||
Pontius Pirate
United States1557 Posts
Although, in retrospect, those makarax builds really only functioned because everyone was kind of bad back then. | ||
Deleted User 137586
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On December 23 2013 06:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: 5? Am I missing something? There's like 4 listed on liquipedia retired in the last 2 months and Sting makes 5. There are more Protoss retiring than Terran, so what's your point? Considering that he meant that terrans with no results are retiring, Protoss retirements that you cite, like Duckdeok, probably were not due to a lack of results - Duckdeok, in particular, was winning a lot until the end. In fact, 2013 saw a large number of Protoss retiring, but the cited causes was mainly the transition to SC2/Kespa downscaling/military obligations. | ||
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Tipany
United States368 Posts
On December 23 2013 03:05 HotGlueGun wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h__rsfdROGY #NeverForget I always thought of him as a player with huge potential but it never really developed I guess. But he was the cutest korean terran by a mile. Jesus Christ, comments like these make me cringe so hard. | ||
Swisslink
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On December 23 2013 04:51 DiMano wrote: Let's be honest here. All pros from Korea are here: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:DiMano 54 43 49 There are only 146 progamers in Korea. For me it is not a lot. 80 players can be in GSL so only 66 players left, 29 korean players are in WCS AM and EU so in total we have only 37 players without any league. Well, are you implying that 37 players are basically unemployed isn't a lot considering the size of the scene? And most of the players which retired in the past few months were "part of" these 37 players - which should not be surprising at all. Especially in Korea there's just nothing to gain if you're not able to play any tournaments. You can't do it as a pro and if you can't do it as a pro, you'll fall off. In Europe/USA it seems like there are quite a lot of players which just play beside studying (or whatever), but in Korea... that's probably not possible. | ||
JJH777
United States4280 Posts
People blaming over saturation are dumb. It isn't that at all. It's just a lack of opportunity/reason to play. If you don't already have a spot in WCS or you haven't previous made a bunch of money in SC2 the smart move is to retire. WCS has reduced opportunity for players a ridiculous amount. If 2013 WCS didn't exist or was like the 2012 WCS this wouldn't be happening. There would still be people retiring and teams disbanding but it wouldn't be this ridiculous. | ||
Zerg.Zilla
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
On December 23 2013 07:15 Tipany wrote: Jesus Christ, comments like these make me cringe so hard. Are you saying that you never felt the urge to pinch those cheeks? | ||
DaRKMaTT3r
Brazil553 Posts
On December 23 2013 04:42 Zealously wrote: People will always make it about the race as long as it's Terran Your comment is no different than someone complainting about balance, great example you set for others to follow. | ||
HeavenResign
United States702 Posts
On December 23 2013 06:59 Ghanburighan wrote: Considering that he meant that terrans with no results are retiring. Does Sting not count then? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Sting#Achievements | ||
Deleted User 137586
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On December 23 2013 07:56 HeavenResign wrote: Does Sting not count then? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Sting#Achievements Of course he does throughout his career, but the page you listed has his last achievement 9 months ago. This is a long enough period of poor results to warrant inclusion. I think the point that people keep bringing up is that terrans that used to be good (got achievements) have fallen off and are now retiring. | ||
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On December 23 2013 03:05 HotGlueGun wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h__rsfdROGY #NeverForget I always thought of him as a player with huge potential but it never really developed I guess. But he was the cutest korean terran by a mile. Why are you saying that he has/had potential? | ||
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