The groups for the first Code S tournament of 2014 have been drawn and the schedule has been released. Following the traditional GSL method, players were divided into four tiers depending on their placement in the previous season and amount of GSL points they earned in 2013, with one player from each tier being drawn into every group (full tier list on GomTV.com). The two finalists Dear and soO were allowed to pick their first opponent from the fourth and lowest tier. Dear elected to face Dark, while soO picked Panic.
On January 30 2014 19:44 Lorning wrote: Not one group full with Z/P? I guess the players picked. Smart move from them
This is such a great point.
Groups full of mirrors, regardless of the players are always kind of meh ;\
I'm looking forward most to Leenock vs Supernova, but that's just because I'm always partial to the older SC2 pros.
Group A is interesting. I think Rain is the favorite to advance out, but the second spot could honestly go to any of the other 3. If I had to pick, I'd guess herO and Rain.
Group B - I haven't seen enough of Supernova or Zest recently. Forgive me if I'm wrong but I remember Trap being more of a PvP master and only okay vs Z/T. I'd like to see both Leenock and Supernova to advance but these Kespa Protoss players are hard to bet against.
Group C Soo and sOs definitely favorites to advance there.
Group D Soulkey favorite. I must've missed a day of Code A because I didn't notice Squirtle make a rise to Code S again, that's actually awesome. Yay for old players.
Group E PartinG and Bbyong!
Group F Maru and Symbol
Group G Life and Dear
Group H rOrO and Stats are my picks, but I'd love to see Curious come through.
hm, chances for Terrans are not looking too good. Supernova will probably beat Leenock but I don't think he can beat Zest or Trap. Maru should advance. His TvZ is not as good but his opponents' aren't the best Zergs either, so that should be doable. Bbyong will beat True but then lose to Parting/Myungsik. I'd guess on one Terran in the Ro16. With some luck we could get 2 but 0 is also entirely possible. At least that makes these groups really interesting, the underdog story of Terrans this season
Looking tough for the terrans as expected. Symbol and Classic are both capable of beating Maru. Actually, I think Supernova has the highest chance of making it to r16.
On January 30 2014 20:01 Fjodorov wrote: Looking tough for the terrans as expected. Symbol and Classic are both capable of beating Maru. Actually, I think Supernova has the highest chance of making it to r16.
And whats the (!!!) with Sora about? Also, when does code S start? Cant seem to find any info on that.
WCG Korea semifinal and WGC Grand Final rematch. the WGC Korea games are worth a watch
On January 30 2014 20:01 Fjodorov wrote: Looking tough for the terrans as expected. Symbol and Classic are both capable of beating Maru. Actually, I think Supernova has the highest chance of making it to r16.
And whats the (!!!) with Sora about? Also, when does code S start? Cant seem to find any info on that.
The dates are right above the groups in the original post, you just barely missed it! ;x
On January 30 2014 20:01 Fjodorov wrote: Looking tough for the terrans as expected. Symbol and Classic are both capable of beating Maru. Actually, I think Supernova has the highest chance of making it to r16.
And whats the (!!!) with Sora about? Also, when does code S start? Cant seem to find any info on that.
The dates are right above the groups in the original post, you just barely missed it! ;x
On January 30 2014 20:01 Fjodorov wrote: Looking through for the terrans as expected. Symbol and Classic are both capable of beating Maru. Actually, I think Supernova has the highest chance of making it to r16.
And whats the (!!!) with Sora about?
maru has a very lopsided H2H with symbol, even in WoL. still, symbol plays zerg, it might be enough.
Sorry but I got to say this is the gsl i am the least hyped for since 2 years. PvZ is a nice matchup BUT gets boring after a while. Rooting for Maru and SuperNova to make ! for zergs non matter but life !
On January 30 2014 20:01 Fjodorov wrote: Looking through for the terrans as expected. Symbol and Classic are both capable of beating Maru. Actually, I think Supernova has the highest chance of making it to r16.
And whats the (!!!) with Sora about?
maru has a very lopsided H2H with symbol, even in WoL. still, symbol plays zerg, it might be enough.
SKT1 confirmed tier 1 team KT confirmed tier 4 team
if any of the 3 terrans will have an undefeated run(not dropping a single) and wins the tournament which very difficult but not impossible .. all hell will break lose
On January 30 2014 20:08 algue wrote: Say hello to GOM exPvZ
looool
Makes you miss the good old days of GomTvT
It'll be pretty funny if the ro16 is 15 protosses and one zerg
There's Daedalus. So it's probably more like 13 Zerg, 3 Protoss :-P I mean, if a Zerg wins the first map, he basically won the Bo3. But I really hope they change the mappool for Code S...
On January 30 2014 20:08 algue wrote: Say hello to GOM exPvZ
looool
Makes you miss the good old days of GomTvT
It'll be pretty funny if the ro16 is 15 protosses and one zerg
The funny thing is that 15 P in ro16 would be the likely scenario if swarm hosts were not in the game. However, because they are in fact in the game we will mostly likely only the winners of the PvPs go through. TvZ - ZvZ Semifinals and ZvZ Finals are 100% guaranteed at this point. The question is who are the two zerg to make it their.
On January 30 2014 20:08 algue wrote: Say hello to GOM exPvZ
looool
Makes you miss the good old days of GomTvT
It'll be pretty funny if the ro16 is 15 protosses and one zerg
Not really... Let's say there is no T at all, afaic, 2 races is still better than 1. All T would be better that all P, or all Z, but here, we can still watch 3 m-u PvP, PvZ, ZvZ, which is still better than GOMTvT with only TvT.
On January 30 2014 20:08 algue wrote: Say hello to GOM exPvZ
looool
Makes you miss the good old days of GomTvT
It'll be pretty funny if the ro16 is 15 protosses and one zerg
The funny thing is that 15 P in ro16 would be the likely scenario if swarm hosts were not in the game. However, because they are in fact in the game we will mostly likely only the winners of the PvPs go through. TvZ - ZvZ Semifinals and ZvZ Finals are 100% guaranteed at this point. The question is who are the two zerg to make it their.
It's not like SwarmHosts are the problem. Protoss still has a chance to beat that army, it just takes a while and is stupid to play. The problem is Daedalus - a Protoss can't win there. On every map beside Daedalus the matchup seems balanced.
On January 30 2014 20:08 algue wrote: Say hello to GOM exPvZ
looool
Makes you miss the good old days of GomTvT
It'll be pretty funny if the ro16 is 15 protosses and one zerg
Not really... Let's say there is no T at all, afaic, 2 races is still better than 1. All T would be better that all P, or all Z, but here, we can still watch 3 m-u PvP, PvZ, ZvZ, which is still better than GOMTvT with only TvT.
Depends on what you like to watch, I'd prefer watching only TvT over waching only these three matchups (worst ones of all imo).
On January 30 2014 20:08 algue wrote: Say hello to GOM exPvZ
looool
Makes you miss the good old days of GomTvT
It'll be pretty funny if the ro16 is 15 protosses and one zerg
The funny thing is that 15 P in ro16 would be the likely scenario if swarm hosts were not in the game. However, because they are in fact in the game we will mostly likely only the winners of the PvPs go through. TvZ - ZvZ Semifinals and ZvZ Finals are 100% guaranteed at this point. The question is who are the two zerg to make it their.
It's not like SwarmHosts are the problem. Protoss still has a chance to beat that army, it just takes a while and is stupid to play. The problem is Daedalus - a Protoss can't win there. On every map beside Daedalus the matchup seems balanced.
Maybe it's just me suffering, but as a zerg, I really have more chances to beat a protoss when I go for swarm hosts. That's pretty much the reason I don't 1v1 currently, I simply don't enjoy swarm hosts. But if I don't want to go for them, I do not really have choices besides some roach/hydra timings or lings into ultras into broodlords etc., so.. I think it's kind of balanced though.
Interesting how people see the chances of the Terrans differently! Race imbalances aside and just looking at the skill level I see Maru and SuperNova in the next round. Bbyong will have a hard time IMHO. Let's see if they can make it!
Could've been a hell of a lot worse for Maru I think, so hopefully he can get out even though his TvZ isn't amazing. Not impossible for Bbyong or SuperNova either, both are quite good at TvZ, but they have two protoss in their group so -.-
Group E is the hipster group of death. PartinG really good PvP and can make it far this tournament if he prepares accordingly. MyuNgSiK did well in proleague and is an online monster. Bbyong didn't get that much showing in proleague but is also sick in online matches and is probably gonna stomp IEM tomorrow. TRUE is a force on the rise at Jin Air and has beaten a lot of good players recently.
My picks: A: Rain, Solar B: Zest, Leenock C: soO, Panic D: Soulkey, Sora E: PartinG, MyuNgSiK F: Classic, Symbol G: Dear, Dark H: rOrO, Stats
my predictions that are totally not influenced to have as few protoss in the ro16 as possible:
group A: DRG, Solar group B: Leenock, Supernova group C: sOO, sOs group D: Soulkey, Pet group E: TRUE, Bbyong group F: Maru, Classic group G: Dark, Life group H: RoRo, Curious
this will totally happen. it doesn't matter though because sOs will win the season and blizz will nerf terrans because all 3 of them reached the semis.
Maru has a very good group for him. He's of way higher caliber than the other 3. I wouldn't can't on Bbyong and Supernova for the Ro16 though, too much Protoss.
Hopefully after this season we won't hear so much about "korean terrans". I know this term was used to distinguish korean terrans from foreigner terrans, but I always felt it was unfair towards korean zergs and protosses. Now we have proof that when P is better than T, korean protosses are able to abuse it just as much as the other way around.
Hopefully after this season we won't hear so much about "korean terrans". I know this term was used to distinguish korean terrans from foreigner terrans, but I always felt it was unfair towards korean zergs and protosses. Now we have proof that when P is better than T, korean protosses are able to abuse it just as much as the other way around.
Korean terrans are all back in the sates beating up on foreigners, taking dirty e-sports money. So no. You don't have a point.
On January 30 2014 22:24 Nebuchad wrote: Hopefully after this season we won't hear so much about "korean terrans". I know this term was used to distinguish korean terrans from foreigner terrans, but I always felt it was unfair towards korean zergs and protosses. Now we have proof that when P is better than T, korean protosses are able to abuse it just as much as the other way around.
I don't think the Korean Terran designation is a snub to Korean zergs, Protoss, there were always better than their foreign counterparts except for a few special cases like Stephano, Nani, Scarlett. It is more do to with the fact that even when Korean Terrans were still keeping up last year, very few foreign Terrans did well.
Damn, even if Bbyong and Supernova dodged the TvP bullet for the first series they still are up against good zergs, and the 2 tosses in their group are both extremely strong, looks like an uphill battle to me. Maru has it slightly better only 1 toss, but its his first series. The other groups look mostly like they have two favorites to advance and two underdogs.
I guess now we'll have to wait and see. Rooting for all the terrans.
On January 30 2014 20:08 algue wrote: Say hello to GOM exPvZ
looool
Makes you miss the good old days of GomTvT
It'll be pretty funny if the ro16 is 15 protosses and one zerg
Its more likely to be overwhelmingly Zerg to be honest. I pointed this out elsewhere but Zerg got tons of people into Code S and they did it by beating both Protoss and Terran whereas Protoss mostly relied on beating Terran.
Wouldn't be at all surprised to see a RO16 that has one or two Terran, a handful of Protoss and ten or eleven Zerg or something like that.
This Code S is stacked as hell though. The names up there...
Even without the Terran backbone that we've become used to, this is a list of sick nerd ballers in Code S this season. The amount of PvZ we're going to witness sucks, but it's going to be a fierce competition indeed.
Group A - Rain / herO Group B - Zest / Trap Group C - soO / sOs Group D - Soulkey / Squirtle Group E - PartinG / Bbyong Group F - Maru / Hydra Group G - Dear / Yongwha Group H - Stats / Curious
Predictions: Group A Rain herO Group B Trap Zest Group C sOs Ruin Group D Sora Squirtle Group E PartinG MyuNgSiK Group F Classic Maru Group G Dear Yonghwa Group H Stats ParalyzE
What's with every other comment being about Maru? Me frankly I'm sick since of terrans since the (quasi) all-terran GSL of 2012, and I'm sure some time in the shade will do great good to their metagame. So lots of PvZ? YEAH! Bring it on!
On January 30 2014 23:07 ant-1 wrote: What's with every other comment being about Maru? Me frankly I'm sick since of terrans since the (quasi) all-terran GSL of 2012, and I'm sure some time in the shade will do great good to their metagame. So lots of PvZ? YEAH! Bring it on!
There's a reason almost every game in the Top 40 has at least 1 Terran in it, and a few PvP/ZvZ/PvZ made it in. Terran is just more entertaining to watch, because games are more volatile. PvZ is BO v BO till 12 minutes and afterwards its pretty easy to spot the winner. The amount of close PvP ZvZ PvZ games is WAY lower than the amount of close Tvx games
On January 30 2014 23:07 ant-1 wrote: What's with every other comment being about Maru? Me frankly I'm sick since of terrans since the (quasi) all-terran GSL of 2012, and I'm sure some time in the shade will do great good to their metagame. So lots of PvZ? YEAH! Bring it on!
Group A Hero. Solar Group B Trap. Nova Group C soO, SoS Group D Soulkey, Pet Group E Parting, True Group F Maru, Classic Group G Dear, Life Group H Roro, Curious
On January 30 2014 23:07 ant-1 wrote: What's with every other comment being about Maru? Me frankly I'm sick since of terrans since the (quasi) all-terran GSL of 2012, and I'm sure some time in the shade will do great good to their metagame. So lots of PvZ? YEAH! Bring it on!
There's a reason almost every game in the Top 40 has at least 1 Terran in it, and a few PvP/ZvZ/PvZ made it in. Terran is just more entertaining to watch, because games are more volatile. PvZ is BO v BO till 12 minutes and afterwards its pretty easy to spot the winner. The amount of close PvP ZvZ PvZ games is WAY lower than the amount of close Tvx games
Tell me more about how I'm supposed to enjoy my e-sports watching, please ~~
On January 30 2014 23:07 ant-1 wrote: What's with every other comment being about Maru? Me frankly I'm sick since of terrans since the (quasi) all-terran GSL of 2012, and I'm sure some time in the shade will do great good to their metagame. So lots of PvZ? YEAH! Bring it on!
lol. All terran 2012. You mean the all zerg 2012. 2011 was more ore less GomTvT, agreed, but there was (at least) the same amount of outrage over toss being so weak back then (sad zealot anyone). Now it's the other way around, but it's just as bad
On January 30 2014 20:08 algue wrote: Say hello to GOM exPvZ
looool
Makes you miss the good old days of GomTvT
It'll be pretty funny if the ro16 is 15 protosses and one zerg
Its more likely to be overwhelmingly Zerg to be honest. I pointed this out elsewhere but Zerg got tons of people into Code S and they did it by beating both Protoss and Terran whereas Protoss mostly relied on beating Terran.
Wouldn't be at all surprised to see a RO16 that has one or two Terran, a handful of Protoss and ten or eleven Zerg or something like that.
This Code S is stacked as hell though. The names up there...
I think Zerg getting through will depend on maps since, Zergs have a big advantage due to daedulus.
On January 30 2014 20:08 algue wrote: Say hello to GOM exPvZ
looool
Makes you miss the good old days of GomTvT
It'll be pretty funny if the ro16 is 15 protosses and one zerg
Its more likely to be overwhelmingly Zerg to be honest. I pointed this out elsewhere but Zerg got tons of people into Code S and they did it by beating both Protoss and Terran whereas Protoss mostly relied on beating Terran.
Wouldn't be at all surprised to see a RO16 that has one or two Terran, a handful of Protoss and ten or eleven Zerg or something like that.
This Code S is stacked as hell though. The names up there...
I think Zerg getting through will depend on maps since, Zergs have a big advantage due to daedulus.
Oh gawd deadalus is in teh map pool. That map is just a joke. It's not creative or interesting, just terrible. There is nothing unique about it, except for the: "Hey you wanna see some ZvP rampage??" ramp
Here I was, super pumped to watch a full GSL for the first time in a couple years (watched every single game of most tournaments back when I played), and bumping into a 3-13-16 race ratio. God, people in my time complained, but this is another level. Guess I'll have to wait for the next one.
Not really looking forward to this GSL season given the lack of Terrans which means we'll be seeing unpopular match ups throughout the entire season (IMO).
On January 31 2014 00:19 Maegi wrote: Hahaha they wanted to make sure there is one terran in Ro16, so they put Maru in the only group with only one protoss
Maru is better against protoss than he is against zerg
eh idk about Life. I mean I guess he can pick Daedalus to help him but in the last week he went 8-10 in PvZ with wins vs Billowy and Paralyze in 2 bo3 each and losses to HerO, San, Squirtle, and Creator
On January 31 2014 00:35 Shellshock wrote: eh idk about Life. I mean I guess he can pick Daedalus to help him but in the last week he went 8-10 in PvZ with wins vs Billowy and Paralyze in 2 bo3 each and losses to HerO, San, Squirtle, and Creator
And for some reason he doesn't pick Daedalus - which makes things even worse. I mean, I'm happy he's confident enough to just skip the imbalanced map, but if he loses because of that, that'd be really bad.
On January 31 2014 00:35 Jonas wrote: I wonder how many of these PvZ matches need to be 40+ minute swarm host stalemates before blizzard fixes anything?
...in all seriousness these are some awesome groups. It's a shame there aren't more terrans, though
It's insanely exaggerated. Of all the PvZ's I've seen lately, a handful were this retarded SwarmHost vs Skytoss style. And even though it's stated so often: They can't just fix it, they'd have to rework the entire PvZ lategame and that definitely won't happen until LotV (unfortunately).
And please Blizzard: delete Daedalus. I mean, it's okay for the ladder season, it's not that bad neither if there's a possibility to veto a map - but for a Bo3 without veto it's just plain stupid.
So Bbyong and super nova a clear chance of passing up, Maru is a favorite in his match, however I think it's in the hands of classic to preapre for the match and take it. I strongly belive supernova will be the only terran to gon through this round, I think we will see a PvP or ZvZ final :S
On January 30 2014 23:07 ant-1 wrote: What's with every other comment being about Maru? Me frankly I'm sick since of terrans since the (quasi) all-terran GSL of 2012, and I'm sure some time in the shade will do great good to their metagame. So lots of PvZ? YEAH! Bring it on!
There's a reason almost every game in the Top 40 has at least 1 Terran in it, and a few PvP/ZvZ/PvZ made it in. Terran is just more entertaining to watch, because games are more volatile. PvZ is BO v BO till 12 minutes and afterwards its pretty easy to spot the winner. The amount of close PvP ZvZ PvZ games is WAY lower than the amount of close Tvx games
Lol this is so incredibly biased it's ridiculous. Just because you play Terran, and enjoy watching Terran doesn't make it the favorite matchup of everyone to watch. Honestly, what matchup isn't BO vs BO for the early parts of the game? That's how they all work. "Almost every game had a terran in the top 40" is a major exaggeration, I personally love PvP and people who don't understand it or try to understand it just write it off. That's fine but I'll enjoy it while you guys go do something else. I enjoy everymatchup except maybe ZvZ just because I don't pick up on all the little nuances that I would watching the race I play, but it's like that for everyone, you just look at it in a much simpler way because you aren't used to all the little things that go into being a good player with that certain race or in that certain matchup.
But anyway, Group A is a helluva group to kick things off with can't wait to see those players go at it. It's definitely my vote for group of death, all 4 of those players could end up RO8 or better, with DRG, Rain, herO probably some peoples picks to win it all or at least be there in the semi's. DRG has played much better so far in individual leagues but Rain hasn't been looking too good in Proleague or individual leagues since his win at the Hot6ix cup. Hoping herO advances <3 Supernova I think has a good chance to advance, and Maru I think will advance easily if he beats Classic, but if Classic wins it will be tough for him to beat 2 Zerg's in a row but luckily they aren't the best zergs. I think the RO16 will be quite balanced in terms of racial distribution, but I'm expecting a majority of Zerg's to advance.
As T obv so bored of Zvx nad Pvx games (PvP esp. is just superboring for me, most funny is ZvZ, cause at least time to time its intense from the start of the game). So basically dont care much about groups, wont watch at all (maybe supernova and maru if ill remember its played). Still inclining more and more to other games (not LoL), sc is dying :|
Life has a tough draw actually, Dark is very underrated imo, and is a solid player. YongHwa is no slouch either. Dear advances for sure hopefully <3 SoulKey vs Sora is guna be a great matchup, 2 players who prefer the macro style and are very good at it, should be a very good series.
It's really shitty that Daedalus is still in the map pool, hopefully each player gets some vetoes? Not sure how the system is for picking maps in Code S this year but that is such an advantage for Zergs it's ridiculous. Blizzard really fucked up letting this map make it into the WCS map pool even though everyone and their mother knew it was going to be heavily favored for Zerg.
On January 30 2014 19:58 Yello wrote: At least that makes these groups really interesting, the underdog story of Terrans this season
I'll be rooting for all of them for sure. As unlikely as it is I'd love to see Supernova surprise everyone and make a deep run this season.
The biggest downside for me is that the Terran games are always so fun to watch regardless of the matchup.
I'm also looking forward to seeing Supernova make a deep run. He used to be consistent on making it to the ro8. Last year he made a ro6 during the OSL last year.
On January 31 2014 02:05 VieuxSinge wrote: Who is gonna cast this? still Artosis+tasteless?
Mostly likely. I don't see why they wouldn't be
Since tasteless is casting a lot of broodwar and artosis is almost fulltime playing hearthstone lately, I was scared they might be replaced^^
Going "fulltime" hearthstone doesn't mean quitting your job, and Tasteless has always been playing other games. People, man. They have a live and hobbies too.
Marus group is gonna be so tough. Man its really boring without terrans. Terran is by far the most well rounded and designed race. Very enjoyable to watch. =(
A: Solar, herO: holy moly this group is stacked; Solar is on a roll, while herO's pvp is just better than Rain's at the moment. DRG is still a bit worse than the other three, though his form seems to come back slowly. B: Zest, Supernova: Leenock didn't look very good in Code A. Supernova impressed me with his mech vsP. C: soO, sOs: a group with pretty clear favorites imo, even though sOs disappointed greatly in SPL (will never take him again for FPL). D: Soulkey, Sora: Soulkey is the clear favorite, after that it's pretty much a toss up (huehue) between Sora and Squirtle. Neither of them has impressed in SPL, but I give Sora the slight edge in PvZ. E: Parting, Bbyong: Another group with a clear fav in Parting. The second spot could be taken by anyone, but I'll go with Bbyong as he is the most experienced in Code S and not many people are gonna practice vT right now. F: Maru, Symbol: Maru is in god mode right now and Symbol because the guy has been the definition of consistent for a while now. G: Dear, Yonghwa: These are two of the most reliable and consistent Protosses. Life has looked really helpless against players he can't just outmicro. H: Roro, Stats: Roro best Z. Stats better than Afrotoss.
Aligulac predictions for reference: A: herO, Rain B: Leenock, Supernova C: sOs, soO D: Soulkey, Squirtle E: Parting, Bbyong F: Classic, Symbol G: Life, Dear H: Curious, Roro
On January 30 2014 20:01 Fjodorov wrote: Looking tough for the terrans as expected. Symbol and Classic are both capable of beating Maru. Actually, I think Supernova has the highest chance of making it to r16.
On January 31 2014 10:30 EDTA wrote: rain is herO's slave for sex,and the two guy's pvz is not pretty good.so,it is likely that rain won't advance to ro 16
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There is no group of death TBH. A is strongest, but questionable because DRG can come in any form, you never know. I'm not that familiar with Solar either.
I think All terrans will make it through. Supernova's mech vs Zerg looked very good and leenock didn't impress me vs mech.. bbyong can win his group and same with Maru.. GO TERRAN
On January 31 2014 05:30 lowercase wrote: Well, I guess the era of Terran dominance is finally over.
You are a year and a half late to the party mate!
Lol what happened to "Terran isn't OP, the best players in the world just happen to play Terran." Sounds funny in retrospect.
That said... I won't get into balance arguing here. Really looking forward to Code S starting again.
Pretty sure there was some truth to that statement (and the same could be said now most likely, I dont follow the game enough anymore to say, but I'd imagine that some of the players with the current strongest form are Protoss, all balance aside).
On January 31 2014 16:18 Daswollvieh wrote: Are the maps set or is it loser´s pick, vetoes possible?
That's a very important point. I wish vetoes were possible... Anyone knows about it ?
On January 31 2014 16:48 AnonymousSC2 wrote: There is no group of death TBH. A is strongest, but questionable because DRG can come in any form, you never know. I'm not that familiar with Solar either.
A is really not the strongest group imo. Rain and herO not doing so well recently, Solar is good lately but he is still not considered as one of the favorites. Groups like D are much more impressive to me.
On January 31 2014 16:50 AnonymousSC2 wrote: I think All terrans will make it through. Supernova's mech vs Zerg looked very good and leenock didn't impress me vs mech.. bbyong can win his group and same with Maru.. GO TERRAN
I am pretty sure Bbyong is not gonna go through. Even if T were strong, I don't think he is good enough.
On January 31 2014 05:30 lowercase wrote: Well, I guess the era of Terran dominance is finally over.
You are a year and a half late to the party mate!
Lol what happened to "Terran isn't OP, the best players in the world just happen to play Terran." Sounds funny in retrospect.
That said... I won't get into balance arguing here. Really looking forward to Code S starting again.
Pretty sure there was some truth to that statement (and the same could be said now most likely, I dont follow the game enough anymore to say, but I'd imagine that some of the players with the current strongest form are Protoss, all balance aside).
On January 31 2014 05:30 lowercase wrote: Well, I guess the era of Terran dominance is finally over.
You are a year and a half late to the party mate!
Lol what happened to "Terran isn't OP, the best players in the world just happen to play Terran." Sounds funny in retrospect.
That said... I won't get into balance arguing here. Really looking forward to Code S starting again.
Pretty sure there was some truth to that statement (and the same could be said now most likely, I dont follow the game enough anymore to say, but I'd imagine that some of the players with the current strongest form are Protoss, all balance aside).
The anti-imbalance movement has gone too far.
It's the TeamLiquid "We'll bear broodlords and infestors for a year if we have to" moderation policy. The game is ALWAYS balanced, don't forget it.
On February 03 2014 09:31 cheekymonkey wrote: Just WHY did GOM decide to not use their site gomtv.net for schedule information and streaming?
Bandwith costs. With the way they did before (streaming it from their own servers) they had to pay for every user watching the stream cause they need to send it to that user aka bandwith is getting used. With the current system they only need to send it to 1 place, the twitch servers and from there people watch it and twitch is the one paying all the bandwith.
I never thought Id actually be disappointed to see so few terrans in Code S, but potentially having PvZ and mirror matches only from Ro16 on doesnt sound that great.
Group A: Rain herO Group B: Supernova Zest (honestly I can't read this one) Group C: sOs soO Group D: Soulkey Squirtle (have a feeling Sora not making it through) Group E: Parting TRUE Group F: Maru Classic Group G: Dear Life Group H: RorO and I Don't Know (all of the other three are doing really well recently but I'll be safe and pick Curious)
On February 03 2014 10:45 Helios.Star wrote: I never thought Id actually be disappointed to see so few terrans in Code S, but potentially having PvZ and mirror matches only from Ro16 on doesnt sound that great.
Yeah indeed.
Although I guess we should be getting used to having less terrans than protosses and zergs in GSL nowadays. It's not JUST about balance, it is also about more protosses and zergs being active in Korean scene overall - in the whole WCS KR ecosystem, there was 42 terrans, 48 zergs and 54 protosses (this is counting in also the amateurs trying to qualify for WCS KR and the players already qualified via last season).
Also on Proleague team rosters, there is 80 players and 32 out of that are protosses, 21 terrans and 27 zergs. With that low amount of players, even that is significant enough.
Couple that with the fact that some of the best terran players are just not playing in either WCS KR or Proleague (Bomber, Polt, Taeja, Yoda etc) and it dosn't bode so well with terran representation even in next seasons (assuming Blizz will somehow manage to create a patch that changes the early game PvT to be balanced).