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Protoss has won 5 premier tournaments in a row now which is the best streak any race has done so far in SC2. Terran did 4 in a row a couple times but never 5. Zerg has never even won 3 in a row pathetically enough. Not even during BL/Infestor era.
I'm really curious how long they will continue this streak.
I wish WCS Eu was ending before WCS Am. With WCS AM ending first I think the streak stops here. Though Oz/Alicia/Arthur all definitely have a chance to win but Polt and Taeja are heavily favored.
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On April 06 2014 11:19 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2014 07:28 aZealot wrote: Nice write-up Wax. Just a little quibble with the following, "soO went mutalisks in 5/7 of the games, which might as well be 5/6 because game one ended before he could get a Lair. We're certain this was because of the TeamLiquid preview, where we said muta-corruptor was soO's most striking style" in notes and observations.
That doesn't read right as it makes it sound like SoO went Muta/Corruptor because of the TL preview which is not the case and not what I imagine you are saying anyway. Rather, I suppose, what you are saying is that he would have gone Muta/Corruptor in 6/7 because that is his style as detailed in the TL GSL finals preview.
I really enjoyed the finals. One of the best series I have seen in a long time. I'm also happy that the crowd were so solidly into it. That last game was so tense when SoO moved out but Zest, perhaps learning from Polar Night, played it so safe with Colo and extra gates before taking the third. I was hoping SoO would win it, but I can have no qualms with Zest taking it. SoO made too many mistakes, and Zest showed the resilience of a champion in clawing back games 2 and 4 from the abyss. I think saying that he went that style because of the TL preview is what he meant. I think he is making a joke saying his previews have a lot of influence on how the pros play.
Oh, it was sly joke. Thanks.
Sorry Wax, I get it now. I had no idea you could mind control Korean pros with your prose (pun intended).
:D
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I was worried that even that small venue could not be filled, but I am glad it was packed. For a finals, they need a place a bit larger than the studio but still far smaller than the normal grand finals venues.
The observer really should have been using the Korean client, though. >_>
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I've always regarded KTF MagicNs as the short form of Magicians. Magic N's sounds really strange
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I think sc2 is hurting... because of protoss.
I watched these finals and only 30000k watched it?? if this had a terran, it would of been higher. I feel like protoss is a boring race to watch and thats why people aren't excited.
I'm sad because this finals should of been huge based on games.. but it wasn't
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On April 06 2014 15:22 Malphite wrote: I think sc2 is hurting... because of protoss.
I watched these finals and only 30000k watched it?? if this had a terran, it would of been higher. I feel like protoss is a boring race to watch and thats why people aren't excited.
I'm sad because this finals should of been huge based on games.. but it wasn't
Yeah.......but no, did you even watch the finals? It went all 7 games, SOo would of won if he did not throw 2 or 3 games that he had in the bag. Both played legit macro strats, with zest only doing a few cheesy builds. SC2 gets more views compared to when it started out. Stop with this stupid "protoss op no one watches sc2 anymore crap"
There was no swarm hosts or anything boring or "op" in this best of 7, please stop joke. It was a good finals.
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Just watched the VODS...snap holy pea dragons Zest is soooooooo goooooooooooood~!!
The way he forced Soo to throw those two games in which he was ahead...was out of sight mindgames!!!
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On April 06 2014 16:08 LingBlingBling wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2014 15:22 Malphite wrote: I think sc2 is hurting... because of protoss.
I watched these finals and only 30000k watched it?? if this had a terran, it would of been higher. I feel like protoss is a boring race to watch and thats why people aren't excited.
I'm sad because this finals should of been huge based on games.. but it wasn't Yeah.......but no, did you even watch the finals? It went all 7 games, SOo would of won if he did not throw 2 or 3 games that he had in the bag. Both played legit macro strats, with zest only doing a few cheesy builds. SC2 gets more views compared to when it started out. Stop with this stupid "protoss op no one watches sc2 anymore crap" There was no swarm hosts or anything boring or "op" in this best of 7, please stop joke. It was a good finals.
I guess you can't read... must be 10 years old.
Last sentence, I said it should of been huge based on the games......... man read... you're the joke here
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On April 06 2014 15:22 Malphite wrote: I think sc2 is hurting... because of protoss.
I watched these finals and only 30000k watched it?? if this had a terran, it would of been higher. I feel like protoss is a boring race to watch and thats why people aren't excited.
I'm sad because this finals should of been huge based on games.. but it wasn't the k after the number means thousand so 30000k would be 30 million.
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On April 06 2014 15:05 Arceus wrote: I've always regarded KTF MagicNs as the short form of Magicians. Magic N's sounds really strange I always thought of it was magicians as well.
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Said it before, will say it again... if SoO was "throwing" games, what do you call game 1 and 5? Looked like Zest "threw" those games to me. But instead of saying they threw games I like to think mistakes were made and the other player held on and went for the throat
Better player won...
EDIT: This "throwing" shit is just making me lol. Soo fans why are you so mad? Game 1 and 5 Zest had won but no one calls those throws..
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On April 06 2014 15:22 Malphite wrote: I think sc2 is hurting... because of protoss.
I watched these finals and only 30000k watched it?? if this had a terran, it would of been higher. I feel like protoss is a boring race to watch and thats why people aren't excited.
I'm sad because this finals should of been huge based on games.. but it wasn't
The time for the finals was aweful for a lot of the world though so it's not that strange :-/
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On April 06 2014 01:42 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2014 01:28 Shellshock wrote: Good finals. sad that soO threw away so many games Well, I would say that finals were so-so(no pun intended), they could have been better even though few games were quite good, but still aren't nearly as bad as some other finals. As you said, sad thing that most of the Zest's comebacks weren't because he did something amazing but because SoO was doing something stupid. :/
Isn't that how it always is? In SC2, it's almost impossible to create a comeback if the leading player doesn't make massive mistakes.
I didn't watch the games (fortunately or unfortunately), but this was a lot closer for Zest than I thought it'd be. Either way, glad to see Zest royal road it and take the trophy.
Kinda surprised to see no Immortal all ins and basically all macro games (or super early "cheese"). I mean, maybe that's how Zest plays, but I'd imagine you'd see at least 1 Immortal all in.
And good on soO to put up such a fight. If he just tightens up his play in big situations a bit more, he should be able to win a few trophies.
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Just finished watching the games... great finals! Both players extremely evenly matched, at the top of their games, went the full seven games with a lot of back and forth and big comebacks. Zero swarm hosts were produced, abusive tactics weren't abused... honestly asking much more of a GSL finals is just greedy.
Although it's kind of pointless to respond to the usual balance whine, I might point out that 2012 was year of the zerg while 2013 HotS was the year of terran, so if Protoss won a few big tournaments in a row in 2014, well it's a bit of karma frankly. And certainly in terms of GSL success, they have long been a distant 3rd to zerg and terran. As for this finals, it seemed pretty clear that player skill determined the outcome and not balance. Zest won despite not once going blink all-in or any other all-in timings for that matter, and the only time he went for cheesiness, he lost. The way Zest played, it's impossible to say anything except that he won, fair and square.
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France9034 Posts
Man I'm really sad I missed the finals, it sure as hell seemed epic!
Really happy for Zest here, and definitely happy for KT as well! Looking forward to catch up with the VODs (are these available without a subscription by the way?)
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For all those wondering how to access the VODs without subscription, I caught this while watching the finals:
It's also said in some other video descriptions as well (ex. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L11wi-tOAgk)
You just have to wait 2 weeks :/
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This guy's patience and control are really something else.
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France9034 Posts
Oh, well, I will. Now that I know the results, I care about watching awesome games (which they were, apparently), and I can keep myself busy 'til the VODs are out
(I could also get myself a subscription... mmmmmmmh ^^)
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Man, some of the games are painful to watch...... Both players seem to repeat the same mistakes throughout the series (Zest keeps trying to do some early pressure but always got discovered and end up being behind; Soo insists on massing muta when a swarmhost or any other ground switch will probably win him the game...). With that being said, these two players are pretty evenly matched, and in the end the better player wins.
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On April 06 2014 18:18 SamuelGreen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2014 15:22 Malphite wrote: I think sc2 is hurting... because of protoss.
I watched these finals and only 30000k watched it?? if this had a terran, it would of been higher. I feel like protoss is a boring race to watch and thats why people aren't excited.
I'm sad because this finals should of been huge based on games.. but it wasn't The time for the finals was aweful for a lot of the world though so it's not that strange :-/
This.
It was 14:00 in Korea, so early morning in Europe and night in America...
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