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Hey TeamLiquid!
This is just a pretty simple message to let you know we've published a Replay Pack that includes WCS Season 1, and last season's Global Finals. In addition, we've created some Visual Builds to help break the ice and let you try some pro-builds right away!
We're also totally interested in your feedback, whether it addresses the replays themselves or the visuals we've accompanied them with. Thanks for always being so great, and I'll get back to my lurking now
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Canada8157 Posts
Worth the wait? Worth the wait, the visuals are awesome!
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but your builds arent even correctly explained :[ ppl gonna be real mad whe nthey move out at 7.15 and 1 oracle flys in and kill em :[
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Awesome
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wow thats a lot of content! awesome
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On May 17 2014 04:37 MajOr wrote: but your builds arent even correctly explained :[ ppl gonna be real mad whe nthey move out at 7.15 and 1 oracle flys in and kill em :[
I think if people are practicing and improving with these builds, it is worth it.
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On May 17 2014 04:37 MajOr wrote: but your builds arent even correctly explained :[ ppl gonna be real mad whe nthey move out at 7.15 and 1 oracle flys in and kill em :[ What do they need to do differently in order to explain them correctly?
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On May 17 2014 04:37 MajOr wrote: but your builds arent even correctly explained :[ ppl gonna be real mad whe nthey move out at 7.15 and 1 oracle flys in and kill em :[ ppl will figure with time you know learning by doing great stuff guys, thanks for that
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is there something wrong with Zest's +1 zealot?? Forge, Cannon, Gateway, Pylon and THEN nexus? wtf Or is this cannon rush into macro xD
+ Show Spoiler +or am i just really stupid
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On May 17 2014 04:37 MajOr wrote: but your builds arent even correctly explained :[ ppl gonna be real mad whe nthey move out at 7.15 and 1 oracle flys in and kill em :[ Thanks for taking the time to correctly explain it. Oh wait.
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On May 17 2014 10:53 Zenbrez wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2014 04:37 MajOr wrote: but your builds arent even correctly explained :[ ppl gonna be real mad whe nthey move out at 7.15 and 1 oracle flys in and kill em :[ Thanks for taking the time to correctly explain it. Oh wait. not my job? lol u go ahead and do that but when u die to a single oracle you will see why
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It is a basic visual guide for a build. Not a full on TL strat guide that does the same thing, then goes on about all the if statements. If you that much about it, maybe recommend to add a few words about the Oracle timing. Visual guide isn't meant to show every possible disruption and counter.
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On May 17 2014 04:37 MajOr wrote: but your builds arent even correctly explained :[ ppl gonna be real mad whe nthey move out at 7.15 and 1 oracle flys in and kill em :[
To be fair that's often a normal response when an oracle enters the base even if you do have some marines nearby.
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Yeah, I don't think they're really meant to be incredibly detailed, perfect build orders/guides and stuff. Just seems like a nice thing that Blizzard included with the replays, to get a general idea about the builds used in the matches. It's hard to really account for everything in a visual like that.
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Like the fact that you give the replays, but I love, absolutely love, the visual build orders. As a casual player and avid watcher I'm inspired to play! It's fantastic, guys. More, please
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We clearly need more of that type of graphics!! Great job and thanks for the replays!
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Blizzard is a surprising company. Well Done.
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Nice to have some input from blizzard at this level. Thanks.
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This is awesome! It's all organized and labeled as well. I already had a few of these but this was great. I hope they do this more often.
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United States45 Posts
On May 17 2014 04:37 MajOr wrote: but your builds arent even correctly explained :[ ppl gonna be real mad whe nthey move out at 7.15 and 1 oracle flys in and kill em :[ Hey Major! If you have any feedback on ways we can improve these to make them more clear or useful, we'd love to hear your thoughts. Feel free to message me or Kibbelz if you have any specific points you'd like share.
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On May 17 2014 10:57 MajOr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2014 10:53 Zenbrez wrote:On May 17 2014 04:37 MajOr wrote: but your builds arent even correctly explained :[ ppl gonna be real mad whe nthey move out at 7.15 and 1 oracle flys in and kill em :[ Thanks for taking the time to correctly explain it. Oh wait. not my job? lol u go ahead and do that but when u die to a single oracle you will see why
It is really easy to find a thousand people who can tell you what is wrong with the world. But incredibly hard to find one person who will help you fix it.
You coming here and saying that isn't anything special Major, it is the normal course of action of cynics, pessimists and naysayers. You helping him would be.
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Italy12246 Posts
I second some of the concerns with the build orders; even when cannon rushing you aren't supposed to go forge/cannon/gate/nexus, which is just a horrible build all around (easily updated with actual openings, see the PvZ guide we wrote last year). Other than that, nice job
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I think the visual presentations are nifty! I'm going to build 9,000 roaches now vs P, T and Z! Watch it!
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so the build orders listed are not the same as the ones in the actual games?
am dling now but cant imagine the first one i look at will be a good example
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Italy12246 Posts
I don't know wether they are, but if Zest when forge/cannon/gate/pylon/nexus then it's definitely not a standard build so i wouldn't follow that part. Other than that, at least the PvZ one looks cool. The TvP build is also reasonable but as Iaguz and Major pointed out it's not the best idea to move out blindly because of protoss early game tech (dt's/oracles etc).
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Im pretty sure they made the builds for bronze players/new players to the game. Overly safe forge expand guide isnt the worst thing ever? If they're in a higher league they probably know about team liquid anyway and can find real guides.
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Really cool, thanks a lot .
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On May 18 2014 00:07 Psione wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2014 04:37 MajOr wrote: but your builds arent even correctly explained :[ ppl gonna be real mad whe nthey move out at 7.15 and 1 oracle flys in and kill em :[ Hey Major! If you have any feedback on ways we can improve these to make them more clear or useful, we'd love to hear your thoughts. Feel free to message me or Kibbelz if you have any specific points you'd like share.
I love how major got a well written, polite response to that complete molestation of the English language.
Naughty troll major!
I think you guys are reading to much into these pictures. They are nice BTW. These are clearly designed as a rough guide for newer players. Head over to imba builds. They have at least two pages of writing for one build order. How are you going to fit all that into one picture? These are quite nice I think, my friend is just starting starcraft (after years of telling him red alert is shit and starcraft is way better) I'll be giving him these.
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This sounds amazing, downloading
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Nice effort with the build order sheets, but rather learn the builds from replays its easier imo
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