Proleague Awards Best Ceremony:Stork Best Rookie:Maru Most Wins:sOs, herO
Clash of the Titans
Two Code S titles.
Three Code S silver medals.
One OSL trophy.
25 - 12 in matches and +29 in maps.
And all the world behind them.
After dominating for 8 months in Proleague, GSL, and Korea, SK Telecom T1 seemed destined to be crowned the greatest team in Starcraft 2. They topped the charts and were seeded as the number one team throughout the season. With 6 Code S players in their lineup and 1 more on the bench, their depth of talent was incomparable, inexhaustible, and seemingly insurmountable.
On the other hand, their great rivals, KT Rolster, were struggling. While Zest had won Code S Season 1, 3 of their 4 best players--Flash, Stats, TY--were stuck in Code A or Code B for the majority of 2014. In Round 4 of the regular season, they even failed to make the playoffs as they limped their way to the finish line. Against Jin Air in the semi finals, many considered them underdogs. Standing in front of the behemoth that was SK Telecom T1 in the Grand Finals, many considered them undeserving.
But as the teams stood there on the grandest of stages, on a floating island in the middle of the Han River, they were equals. Their records, their histories, their individual achievements meant nothing. All that mattered was four wins. Four wins would separate the Greatest from the forgotten, and four wins would reward a year's worth of practice, a year long dream.
The confidence that engulfed the SKT T1 roster was evident in PartinG's demeanor. As he grabbed the mic to say a few words, the crowd listened intently to the man known for his sharp tongue and sharper micro. When asked about his match against Flash, he beamed proudly. "I will beat him," he said, and his grin suggested that to beat Flash was to beat KT. Yet theirs was only one match, and Flash had nothing but trust in his allies.
The greatest collection of individual talents ever assembled stood on the left.
The most cohesive team in Korea stood on the right.
And the crusade of Champions against God and his angels began.
Stats vs Soulkey opened the series on Out Boxer. Following the recent zerg trend, Soulkey sent an early drone scout in attempt to block Stats' natural nexus. Stats denied it with little effort though and the drone scout allowed Soulkey to safely open three hatch and even a gas before spawning pool. Stats then took the initiative by hiding a stargate but got unlucky when a single zergling found its way into his base to scout the lack of tech there. Soulkey immediately put up blind spore crawlers, minimizing the damage he took from Stats' oracle. Both players transitioned into a standard game from there, with Stats adding a third base and heading for +2 and blink. Soulkey successfully ran around with his double upgraded zerglings, snatching a few probe kills and even catching two colossi as they rallied out, meanwhile transitioning to a few Swarmhosts back at home. Stats however managed to defend his third base against the swarmhosts, roaches, lings and corruptors and even established a fourth base to equal the base count. Soulkey then made an odd and perhaps game losing choice - he didn't add more Swarmhosts, didn't add infestors but instead morphed eleven brood lords to clear out Stats' third base. At the same time however, two zealots were cancelling his own fifth base, essentially putting a timer above Soulkey's head. The SKT zerg was forced to make a tough decision and decided to attempt an almost all in attack before too many tempests hit the field. With a mothership, a cloud of void rays, storm, colossi and blink stalkers, Stats had little trouble holding the attack and from there simply steamrolled across the map, wiping out all of Soulkey's bases and his army in the process, drawing first blood for KT.
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Perhaps the most anticipated match of the night, Flash against PartinG started off without any surprises. Standard openings from both ensured a macro game. PartinG opened with the same blink build he showed in his games against both CJ terrans, Bunny and Bbyong. Flash's reaper managed to get the crucial scout on PartinG's opening though, giving him ample time to prepare for it. Having his strategy choice revealed immediately, PartinG opted for a warp prism to keep Flash pinned back even longer, while teching to colossi and attempting to put down a third base. Flash however showed incredible preparation for his build. Four marines wandered across the map unscouted and arrived at PartinG's third perfectly in time to snipe the probe, then found their way into the natural, scouting PartinG's choice of followup tech. Now fully aware of PartinG's plans, Flash's mind was immediately made up - he would pull SCVs. A second starport followed by a ghost academy made his choice of strategy fairly obvious. PartinG attempted an attack before the additional production could kick in but his army was pushed back easily and the counterattack came instantly. With SCVs leading the charge, Flash steamrolled his way into PartinG's natural after killing the third, demolishing his opponent's army and putting KT up 2-0.
At this point, the third match was all or nothing for SKT. If Rain was to lose this game to Zest, surely there would be no hope left. Rain opted for a little trickery to start it, hiding his stargate on the low ground next to his base on King Sejong Station. Zest meanwhile opened with a 1gate expand into stargate, taking little damage from Rain's oracle who then expanded himself. Both players realized the situation they were in and both started phoenix production. It seemed almost like a gentlemen's agreement when both decided to stop production at the same time and differentiated their tech paths - colossi for Zest, charge/templar for Rain. As is standard for the latter playstyle, Rain added a faster third base. This is where his true genius began to shine through however. Realizing his opponent's colossus transition very early, Rain resumed phoenix production and added a fleet beacon. Zest's phoenixes got caught out and completely erased from the map when he finally showed his hand. With a third base down for Rain, air control suddenly massively in his favor and tons of economic damage being done by his phoenixes, Zest was left with little choice but to all in. The early fleet beacon proved to be perfect planning as Rain's tempests eliminated Zest's colossi just in time before they could deal the damage necessary. Rain crushed his opponent's army and secured the first win for SKT.
Action and Dark squared off next on Overgrowth. Both players opened hatch first, but Action did so in slightly greedier fashion as he squeezed out a few extra drones and even a faster extractor. Action took the initiative by using his faster gas to rush out a lair and roach speed. Using that early tech advantage, he immediately took the gold base, knowing that it couldn't be threatened. Dark seemed to trail behind the entire game from there on, until Action finally broke him with his constant roach/hydra waves. Not even a full roach surround was enough to let Dark hold on and he was forced to surrender. KT were one map away from winning the finals.
And who was it that had to carry SKT's hopes and dreams against Sleep? soO. The three time GSL runner-up who just recently lost their ace match against CJ. soO, who is known for choking on the biggest stage, decided to put it all on the line and copied a build that was used by Hydra against his teammate Soulkey on the same map. His semi-hidden extractor strategy was revealed by Sleep though, who smartly sacrificed his scouting overlord to attain that crucial information. With a wall being set up and a lair and roach warren starting for Sleep, there was no way for soO's mass speedling plans to work out. Instead, soO used his speedlings to deny Sleep from taking a third base while taking his own gold base and putting down a roach warren. All of this was but trickery however. soO never had any plans to play for a longer game, skipping his lair entirely in favor of mass unit production. A huge roach/ling attack was his strategy of choice and it crashed into Sleep right as he was upgrading and teching up. soO's overwhelming army supply was too much for the KT zerg to handle and soO did prevail, giving SKT fans hope again.
With the score now at 3-2 for KT Rolster, the burden of saving SKT was transferred to reigning but already dethroned GSL champion Classic, whose task was simple: beat TY in cross positions on Frost to bring the series to an ace match. In a cruel twist of fate, all of SKT's hopes turned to ashes as Classic opened nexus first - against TY's unscouted double proxy rax. Classic's probe scout let him down, TY's barrack perfectly placed just outside of watchtower vision. The first glimpse Classic got of his impending doom was when he saw SCVs being pulled from TY's main. At that point, a bunker was already being constructed in his natural. Forced to pull probes to block the ramp, nearly losing the zealot, Classic tried to micro his heart out but made one crucial mistake: his mothership core spawned in the natural and was immediately killed by marines. TY then forced himself up the ramp, eliminating the majority of Classic's probes in the process. With four bunkers in range of his nexus and marines constantly rallying right into the heart of his base, Classic's stalkers were never going to be enough to hold the attack. All of them died, as did the natural nexus and Classic's only gateway. Celebrating his victory, TY even started a command center in his opponent's base but it never finished as Classic typed out once his natural died. Denying the ace match with a stone cold strategy, TY claimed the final victory of the season, grabbing the Proleague championship for KT Rolster.
A Champion Crowned
Not many believed it was possible, but by the end of the evening, everyone was convinced. KT had prepared better for their matches, and each of their wins was well deserved. After a season full of up and downs and a final few months full of doubts, they stood alone as kings of Korea. Amidst a frenzied crowd and casters hailing, the team tossed their coach in the air and you could hear the roar of champions. It was a title fished from the river, and a rival kicked into the stands. Tonight they celebrate, and tomorrow they practice for Code S. At least until the next season, KT are best KT.
For SKT T1, the heartbreak was palpable. As they sat in silence, watching their adversaries revel in applause, they had no one to blame but themselves. Rain and soO, the only original T1 players from Brood War, were the only ones that managed to put their team on the score board. Soulkey--signed from Woongjin Stars--, PartinG--signed from Startale--, Dark--signed from SlayerS--, and Classic--signed from STX SouL-- were the new faces of the most storied franchise in Starcraft, and they all failed. But their story of disappointment will be forgotten and their valiant two wins nothing more than footnotes to someone else's success. To their fans' chagrin, it was KT Rolster's.
Obligatory KTKTKTKTKT Awesome season of Proleague and amazing final, KT really looking good at the end after they were kind of disappointing in round 4. Now its way too much time till the next season :/
This season was so awesome and the Finals jus made it perfect. Really enjoyed everything today, great games, great crowd, great LR thread! SC2 is in really good place imo and it makes me very happy that it's getting there in Korea too .
Even though I was super upset that PartinG lost, it does kind of have a silver lining for me in a way. It would just feel a little...wrong for Flash to be on the losing end of a one-sided rivalry. After all, he is Flash, and it's good for the PartinG-Flash rivalry and for the SC2 scene as a whole for Flash to have that fearsome aura. It keeps things interesting.
So well played KT, it's a well earned victory, and regardless of who won, that was the funnest/most hype tournament since Blizzcon for me. I can't wait for next season; this seems to me to be the first big step of a new legacy and series of storylines in SC2. <3 Proleague.
I congratulate KT on their victory, but it was more SKT mistakes than KT brilliance that gave it to them. "Let me get 2 collossus for free, and then just not death push. "Let me make broodlords against Protoss with 8 voidrays. "Im gonna go nexus first against a Kespa Terran." You let me down boys, you let me down
SO glad I actually stayed up for that, even if I only got a few hours of sleep afterwards. 100% worth it, that was incredible and I can't wait for the next season of Proleague!! And of course, congrats to KT! :D
On August 10 2014 02:38 ZAiNs wrote: :'( If only Classic didn't Nexus first. We could have had the most glorious ace match ever...
We need to start calling a 2rax in the deciding match of a finals "Mvp's balls" from now on.
Damn I wish Taeja could win this finals, he just needs "Mvp's balls."
There is only one guy who got the title Steelballs.
There is a lot of irony in SKT1 losing proleague finals to a bunker rush...
why is it ironic (sorry plz fill me in on some history)
SKT1 Terrans had a history of using bunker rushes in high stakes matches in BW. Boxer invented the strat and he led SKT1 to quite a few proleague championships as a player and a coach. There was a game where Fantasy bunker rushed Jaedong in proleague finals when their rivalry was the biggest thing in the scene.
or in the 2012-13 SPL semi-finals when Fantasy 2-raxed Classic (STX at the time) and there was even a gif of Boxer nodding in excitement like they'd won the game and then Classic held it.
On August 10 2014 04:21 LongShot27 wrote: I congratulate KT on their victory, but it was more SKT mistakes than KT brilliance that gave it to them. "Let me get 2 collossus for free, and then just not death push. "Let me make broodlords against Protoss with 8 voidrays. "Im gonna go nexus first against a Kespa Terran." You let me down boys, you let me down
You're really selling Stats short, Soulkey played well, it's just that Stats played even better.
On August 10 2014 04:21 LongShot27 wrote: I congratulate KT on their victory, but it was more SKT mistakes than KT brilliance that gave it to them. "Let me get 2 collossus for free, and then just not death push. "Let me make broodlords against Protoss with 8 voidrays. "Im gonna go nexus first against a Kespa Terran." You let me down boys, you let me down
You're really selling Stats short, Soulkey played well, it's just that Stats played even better.
not really. i am a stats fan but he should've lost after that terrible midgame. soulkey wasn't at a massive advantage by any means, but he had a solid lead and then suicided all his shit at the protoss' front door. i think he over estimated his lead and just went for it. he lost that game a lot more than stats won it.
The better team won. KT did me proud. Too bad I didn't do any bets lol. Also, KT was quite calculated in all their games, it was great to see. Action's strategy, Flash's timing, TY reading Classic like a book etc... Let's not forget Stats' positioning though the game wasn't as impressive as the other ones imo. Good PL finals overall.
On August 10 2014 06:07 BigFan wrote: The better team won. KT did me proud. Too bad I didn't do any bets lol. Also, KT was quite calculated in all their games, it was great to see. Action's strategy, Flash's timing, TY reading Classic like a book etc... Let's not forget Stats' positioning though the game wasn't as impressive as the other ones imo. Good PL finals overall.
Made sure its not April 1st when I checked the results this morning ,but lol KT won something. Much love to my fellow SKT fans, now and forever we are the best.
On August 10 2014 04:21 LongShot27 wrote: I congratulate KT on their victory, but it was more SKT mistakes than KT brilliance that gave it to them. "Let me get 2 collossus for free, and then just not death push. "Let me make broodlords against Protoss with 8 voidrays. "Im gonna go nexus first against a Kespa Terran." You let me down boys, you let me down
You're really selling Stats short, Soulkey played well, it's just that Stats played even better.
Stats played an awful game, Soulkey played a disastrous game
On August 10 2014 06:30 disciple wrote: Made sure its not April 1st when I checked the results this morning ,but lol KT won something. Much love to my fellow SKT fans, now and forever we are the best.
On August 10 2014 02:47 thepaz wrote: Now time for a Flash Gsl! Gratz to KT by the way
lets hope. He won't be able to dominate GSL as he dominated Parting. Knowing what Parting would do even to the SECOND was really more then impressive. It was godlike, like some devine power told him what Partings next move would be exactly. He was so always one step ahead, my mouth stood open and i forgot to trash/spampost in the LR-Thread. He won't be able to prepare for his opponents in GSL like that
On August 10 2014 04:21 LongShot27 wrote: I congratulate KT on their victory, but it was more SKT mistakes than KT brilliance that gave it to them. "Let me get 2 collossus for free, and then just not death push. "Let me make broodlords against Protoss with 8 voidrays. "Im gonna go nexus first against a Kespa Terran." You let me down boys, you let me down
You're really selling Stats short, Soulkey played well, it's just that Stats played even better.
Stats played an awful game, Soulkey played a disastrous game
lol wut? like srlsy?
he threw 2 colossi which was sooo dumb but maybe that was the pressure. He shouldn't have thrown away the zealots to kill the 3rd of SK, but hiding the mothership and then roll over the zerg army that had no detection was genius and well prepared, he did not try to hold the 3rd like many would have and so on...
On August 10 2014 06:30 disciple wrote: Made sure its not April 1st when I checked the results this morning ,but lol KT won something. Much love to my fellow SKT fans, now and forever we are the best.
On August 10 2014 06:07 BigFan wrote: The better team won. KT did me proud. Too bad I didn't do any bets lol. Also, KT was quite calculated in all their games, it was great to see. Action's strategy, Flash's timing, TY reading Classic like a book etc... Let's not forget Stats' positioning though the game wasn't as impressive as the other ones imo. Good PL finals overall.
On August 10 2014 05:45 Lorning wrote:
On August 10 2014 05:39 The_Templar wrote:
On August 10 2014 05:15 darthfoley wrote: What was the viewer count like?
Pretty good. I think it was 100k across all streams? edit: ^to above, there were actually 130000 people watching from china? O.o
Yes, in total around 200k
Where did you get 200k from? 130k chinese, 30k on twitch stream but 40k from korean? Good turnout overall though.
Hmm maybe it was a bit less, but I'm sure it was close when it peaked
Here's screenshot of some of the streams. From Ethan Ahn
On August 10 2014 06:07 BigFan wrote: The better team won. KT did me proud. Too bad I didn't do any bets lol. Also, KT was quite calculated in all their games, it was great to see. Action's strategy, Flash's timing, TY reading Classic like a book etc... Let's not forget Stats' positioning though the game wasn't as impressive as the other ones imo. Good PL finals overall.
On August 10 2014 05:45 Lorning wrote:
On August 10 2014 05:39 The_Templar wrote:
On August 10 2014 05:15 darthfoley wrote: What was the viewer count like?
Pretty good. I think it was 100k across all streams? edit: ^to above, there were actually 130000 people watching from china? O.o
Yes, in total around 200k
Where did you get 200k from? 130k chinese, 30k on twitch stream but 40k from korean? Good turnout overall though.
Hmm maybe it was a bit less, but I'm sure it was close when it peaked
Here's screenshot of some of the streams. From Ethan Ahn
Oh dammit ;/ Well, Classic won Proleague for STX SouL, lost for SKT T1. Balance is restored.
Grats, KT, it was a nice ride.
On August 10 2014 06:30 disciple wrote: Made sure its not April 1st when I checked the results this morning ,but lol KT won something. Much love to my fellow SKT fans, now and forever we are the best.
On August 10 2014 06:07 BigFan wrote: The better team won. KT did me proud. Too bad I didn't do any bets lol. Also, KT was quite calculated in all their games, it was great to see. Action's strategy, Flash's timing, TY reading Classic like a book etc... Let's not forget Stats' positioning though the game wasn't as impressive as the other ones imo. Good PL finals overall.
On August 10 2014 05:45 Lorning wrote:
On August 10 2014 05:39 The_Templar wrote:
On August 10 2014 05:15 darthfoley wrote: What was the viewer count like?
Pretty good. I think it was 100k across all streams? edit: ^to above, there were actually 130000 people watching from china? O.o
Yes, in total around 200k
Where did you get 200k from? 130k chinese, 30k on twitch stream but 40k from korean? Good turnout overall though.
Hmm maybe it was a bit less, but I'm sure it was close when it peaked
Here's screenshot of some of the streams. From Ethan Ahn
Those are the peaks then? Impressive :o
Was not on peak, this was before the games started, if the clock doesn't trick me i think 20:45(KST) the games had no started yet, im not sure thou!
On August 10 2014 06:30 disciple wrote: Made sure its not April 1st when I checked the results this morning ,but lol KT won something. Much love to my fellow SKT fans, now and forever we are the best.
Awe. Time to rise again.
Even more maddening, Classic held a proxy 2 rax in game 6 of proleague playoffs during his time on STX, against SKT. Oh the irony.
On August 10 2014 04:21 LongShot27 wrote: I congratulate KT on their victory, but it was more SKT mistakes than KT brilliance that gave it to them. "Let me get 2 collossus for free, and then just not death push. "Let me make broodlords against Protoss with 8 voidrays. "Im gonna go nexus first against a Kespa Terran." You let me down boys, you let me down
You're really selling Stats short, Soulkey played well, it's just that Stats played even better.
Stats played an awful game, Soulkey played a disastrous game
lol wut? like srlsy?
he threw 2 colossi which was sooo dumb but maybe that was the pressure. He shouldn't have thrown away the zealots to kill the 3rd of SK, but hiding the mothership and then roll over the zerg army that had no detection was genius and well prepared, he did not try to hold the 3rd like many would have and so on...
Stats GAVE UP his 3rd to buy time for more time for more Tempests to crush Soulkey's Brood Lords, so sacking the 3rd was intentional
On August 10 2014 04:21 LongShot27 wrote: I congratulate KT on their victory, but it was more SKT mistakes than KT brilliance that gave it to them. "Let me get 2 collossus for free, and then just not death push. "Let me make broodlords against Protoss with 8 voidrays. "Im gonna go nexus first against a Kespa Terran." You let me down boys, you let me down
You're really selling Stats short, Soulkey played well, it's just that Stats played even better.
Stats played an awful game, Soulkey played a disastrous game
lol wut? like srlsy?
he threw 2 colossi which was sooo dumb but maybe that was the pressure. He shouldn't have thrown away the zealots to kill the 3rd of SK, but hiding the mothership and then roll over the zerg army that had no detection was genius and well prepared, he did not try to hold the 3rd like many would have and so on...
Stats GAVE UP his 3rd to buy time for more time for more Tempests to crush Soulkey's Brood Lords, so sacking the 3rd was intentional
Actually he gave it up because it was nearly mined out and he was already taking another base. It was kind of a lure, but more of an "I dont need this"
On August 10 2014 06:30 disciple wrote: Made sure its not April 1st when I checked the results this morning ,but lol KT won something. Much love to my fellow SKT fans, now and forever we are the best.
make sure you pm me when SKT wins something. And by SKT wins I don't mean mercs from the fallen teams like Classic and Soulkey or Soo's kong-fu
On August 10 2014 12:41 elmerpogs wrote: They should have fielded a Terran, there should be FanTaSy and FUCK they were just too confident.
Exactly what I thought too... majority of their games they seem like they didn't prepare anything new at all. While KT looked like they practiced and studied their opponent's tendencies and countered it with a strategy for each game. The 2 games SKT1 won were mirror matches too.
On August 10 2014 06:30 disciple wrote: Made sure its not April 1st when I checked the results this morning ,but lol KT won something. Much love to my fellow SKT fans, now and forever we are the best.
make sure you pm me when SKT wins something. And by SKT wins I don't mean mercs from the fallen teams like Classic and Soulkey or Soo's kong-fu
What in the hell do you mean mercs? Liquid HerO was a merc for IM, ST Life was a merc for IM, but Soulkey and Classic are all actual SKT GUYS, and soO of all ppl (wtf?) there is no such thing as an SKT WINS means not won by someone, if its won, then its won, IF IM won PL with Liquid HerO, it is still an IM win, it doesn't matter, your logic man
I think the lack of televised matches for SKT as a team (sure some played in the GSL) was a huge factor. Their first place after regular season proved to be a double-edged sword, last time they were in an adrenaline fight that matters is 2/3rds of a month earlier.
On August 10 2014 06:30 disciple wrote: Made sure its not April 1st when I checked the results this morning ,but lol KT won something. Much love to my fellow SKT fans, now and forever we are the best.
make sure you pm me when SKT wins something. And by SKT wins I don't mean mercs from the fallen teams like Classic and Soulkey or Soo's kong-fu
What in the hell do you mean mercs? Liquid HerO was a merc for IM, ST Life was a merc for IM, but Soulkey and Classic are all actual SKT GUYS, and soO of all ppl (wtf?) there is no such thing as an SKT WINS means not won by someone, if its won, then its won, IF IM won PL with Liquid HerO, it is still an IM win, it doesn't matter, your logic man
was a standard trolling, calm down. KT has TY too, although the core is still from BW times. And believe me I miss the Bisu/Best/Fanta/and even Hyuk version of SKT no less than you or any other old fan. Those were the times. Now SKT just doesn't feel SKTish, just ask BisuDagger. ps: soo is 100% SKT of course, it's just his second places that's sad. I wish him a cup sooner rather than later.
On August 10 2014 06:30 disciple wrote: Made sure its not April 1st when I checked the results this morning ,but lol KT won something. Much love to my fellow SKT fans, now and forever we are the best.
make sure you pm me when SKT wins something. And by SKT wins I don't mean mercs from the fallen teams like Classic and Soulkey or Soo's kong-fu
What in the hell do you mean mercs? Liquid HerO was a merc for IM, ST Life was a merc for IM, but Soulkey and Classic are all actual SKT GUYS, and soO of all ppl (wtf?) there is no such thing as an SKT WINS means not won by someone, if its won, then its won, IF IM won PL with Liquid HerO, it is still an IM win, it doesn't matter, your logic man
was a standard trolling, calm down. KT has TY too, although the core is still from BW times. And believe me I miss the Bisu/Best/Fanta/and even Hyuk version of SKT no less than you or any other old fan. Those were the times. Now SKT just doesn't feel SKTish, just ask BisuDagger. ps: soo is 100% SKT of course, it's just his second places that's sad. I wish him a cup sooner rather than later.
LOL my bad!!!!! yeah, old SKT was the better SKT, but still SKT is still one of the best, but just doesnt feel like the old days, i hear ya
On August 10 2014 13:18 juvenal wrote: I think the lack of televised matches for SKT as a team (sure some played in the GSL) was a huge factor. Their first place after regular season proved to be a double-edged sword, last time they were in an adrenaline fight that matters is 2/3rds of a month earlier.
I assume you mean lack of televised matches as in lack of material for SKT to study, right?
On August 10 2014 13:51 elmerpogs wrote: I've lost 2% of my 100% respect to SKT when they didn't field a terran on this finals.It also looked like they don't trust FanTaSy anymore.
i hear ya, but tbh, it seems reasonable, FanTaSy isn't doing well in anything, Proleague or Individual leagues. If you were the coach of SKT, and you had a team of 7 GSL code S players plus 2 Code A players, who would YOU FIELD? 6 of 7 Code S players? or put in the Code A player who cant even get out of Code A, who would you pick, if even Code S players weren't enough to take the win for SKT, then i seriously doubt that just becuz he has experience that FanTaSy will win for SKT. The only player that we can say is not Top notch in SKTs lineup yesterday was Dark, but even he is a Ro16 Zerg in Season 2 GSL, so much better than FanTaSy. So yeah, even with SKT's best players they couldnt win, it was never the problem of not fielding FanTaSy (he wouldnt have won anyways), it was just one game anyways, KT Rolster just prepared better. iloveoov doesnt care about what the viewers think, if everyone in the world says FanTaSy vs Flash ACE (if it happened), but iloveoov thinks they will lose if they send out FanTaSy, he wont send him out, because FanTaSy just isn't performing well at all
The hype was real but the games were just alright. I get why people went nuts for Flash but it was just a standard pre-storm SCV pull, I wanted to see Flash go into a macro game with Parting but that wouldnt have been a smart decision ofcourse. Soulkeys build made no sense, Dark didnt scout and the 2-rax killed the potential awesome Flash vs Rain ace match. Meh at least it wasnt a stomp.
I was really truly surpriced how Action played. Granted I did give Action a slight lead to begin with, but the fake of the ling speed really threw Dark of. He even faked it again when the ling scout got in. Just really well done and prepared.
Other games were great too, notably Flash vs Parting. Flash had prepared and read Partings timing so well, that Parting had no chance if he played standard. And those 4 hero marines.. Just randomly going around in the map. Nobody knew what they were doing, but everybody were looking at them.
Also about the first game.. I think it was all about nerves. In the end though Stats have his plan locked out and Soulkey seemed to just be undecisive on what to do, which costed him the game.
In the end as many have said.. It came down to preparation, KT scouted SKT really well.
On August 10 2014 13:51 elmerpogs wrote: I've lost 2% of my 100% respect to SKT when they didn't field a terran on this finals.It also looked like they don't trust FanTaSy anymore.
i hear ya, but tbh, it seems reasonable, FanTaSy isn't doing well in anything, Proleague or Individual leagues. If you were the coach of SKT, and you had a team of 7 GSL code S players plus 2 Code A players, who would YOU FIELD? 6 of 7 Code S players? or put in the Code A player who cant even get out of Code A, who would you pick, if even Code S players weren't enough to take the win for SKT, then i seriously doubt that just becuz he has experience that FanTaSy will win for SKT. The only player that we can say is not Top notch in SKTs lineup yesterday was Dark, but even he is a Ro16 Zerg in Season 2 GSL, so much better than FanTaSy. So yeah, even with SKT's best players they couldnt win, it was never the problem of not fielding FanTaSy (he wouldnt have won anyways), it was just one game anyways, KT Rolster just prepared better. iloveoov doesnt care about what the viewers think, if everyone in the world says FanTaSy vs Flash ACE (if it happened), but iloveoov thinks they will lose if they send out FanTaSy, he wont send him out, because FanTaSy just isn't performing well at all
This is a bit of a stupid analogy, but just because someone isn't good in individual leagues doesn't mean they're not sick good in proleague.
How come the semi finals are a bo3 of bo7, and the finals only a bo7 ? I was hoping to see games tomorrow and maybe the day after until I saw TY grabbing the cup
On August 11 2014 02:23 wl4d wrote: How come the semi finals are a bo3 of bo7, and the finals only a bo7 ? I was hoping to see games tomorrow and maybe the day after until I saw TY grabbing the cup
for the same reason that champions league finals are just one game whereas the semis are 2.
On August 11 2014 02:23 wl4d wrote: How come the semi finals are a bo3 of bo7, and the finals only a bo7 ? I was hoping to see games tomorrow and maybe the day after until I saw TY grabbing the cup
for the same reason that champions league finals are just one game whereas the semis are 2.
On August 11 2014 02:23 wl4d wrote: How come the semi finals are a bo3 of bo7, and the finals only a bo7 ? I was hoping to see games tomorrow and maybe the day after until I saw TY grabbing the cup
for the same reason that champions league finals are just one game whereas the semis are 2.
On August 10 2014 16:55 swag_bro wrote: Classic and Zest confirmed to be 1 time protoss GSL winners along with seed and dear.
Come on, Classic is probably not the most relevant GSL winner but Zest and Dear are beasts and definitely deserve to see their names in this prestigious list.
On August 10 2014 13:51 elmerpogs wrote: I've lost 2% of my 100% respect to SKT when they didn't field a terran on this finals.It also looked like they don't trust FanTaSy anymore.
i hear ya, but tbh, it seems reasonable, FanTaSy isn't doing well in anything, Proleague or Individual leagues. If you were the coach of SKT, and you had a team of 7 GSL code S players plus 2 Code A players, who would YOU FIELD? 6 of 7 Code S players? or put in the Code A player who cant even get out of Code A, who would you pick, if even Code S players weren't enough to take the win for SKT, then i seriously doubt that just becuz he has experience that FanTaSy will win for SKT. The only player that we can say is not Top notch in SKTs lineup yesterday was Dark, but even he is a Ro16 Zerg in Season 2 GSL, so much better than FanTaSy. So yeah, even with SKT's best players they couldnt win, it was never the problem of not fielding FanTaSy (he wouldnt have won anyways), it was just one game anyways, KT Rolster just prepared better. iloveoov doesnt care about what the viewers think, if everyone in the world says FanTaSy vs Flash ACE (if it happened), but iloveoov thinks they will lose if they send out FanTaSy, he wont send him out, because FanTaSy just isn't performing well at all
This is a bit of a stupid analogy, but just because someone isn't good in individual leagues doesn't mean they're not sick good in proleague.
Look at Bisu's career BW.
dude, read carefully, i wrote: " FanTaSy isn't doing well in anything, Proleague or Individual leagues",
On August 10 2014 16:55 swag_bro wrote: Classic and Zest confirmed to be 1 time protoss GSL winners along with seed and dear.
Come on, Classic is probably not the most relevant GSL winner but Zest and Dear are beasts and definitely deserve to see their names in this prestigious list.
Explain the string of losses by herO, Rain, True, and Taeja from Zest. And the drop down to code B from Dear which lead to his dismissal from Mouz...
On August 10 2014 16:55 swag_bro wrote: Classic and Zest confirmed to be 1 time protoss GSL winners along with seed and dear.
Come on, Classic is probably not the most relevant GSL winner but Zest and Dear are beasts and definitely deserve to see their names in this prestigious list.
Explain the string of losses by herO, Rain, True, and Taeja from Zest. And the drop down to code B from Dear which lead to his dismissal from Mouz...
Come on, has there ever been a GSL winner in the past 2 years who has been totally dominant and not lost to anyone good after they won? All of those players are fantastic players that Zest lost to.
And lets not forget Dear DEMOLISHING the WCS S3 finals after winning the GSL. Classic just dropped out right after without accomplishing anything, but Dear and Zest most definitely established themselves and gained respect.
Funny how the waiting team in the Finals suffered the same 4-2 loss to the "underdogs".WJS looked so scary at the start and in the finals of the first all SC2 proleague but got toppled down by STX Soul.SKT shines above all with their stacked rosters but fuck what happened LOL. How many months we'll have to wait for the next Proleague?
On August 11 2014 15:37 elmerpogs wrote: Funny how the waiting team in the Finals suffered the same 4-2 loss to the "underdogs".WJS looked so scary at the start and in the finals of the first all SC2 proleague but got toppled down by STX Soul.SKT shines above all with their stacked rosters but fuck what happened LOL. How many months we'll have to wait for the next Proleague?
This season of PL started in December 2013, so if they keep that schedule i asume in about 4 months I hope that i am wrong though, that is so much time ._.
Seeing this Proleague's success, I can only dream that LotV brings much much much needed changes to make Starcraft 2 a top esports game again (currently being a tier 2 IMHO). Oh how good it would be !
And yesss, was cheering for KT, but thinking "this won't happen", and they did it! Gratz!
The Chinese stream number is heavily inflated, the real number would be closer to 10-15k, but there are more than one Chinese stream available (The Chinese guys streamed to multiple platforms), the combined Chinese number should be around 30k if I'm correct.