안녕하세요. kt롤스터입니다. 먼저 공지가 늦어진 점 사과의 말씀 드립니다. 우선, 스타크래프트 팀에 류원 코치님을 영입하게 되었습니다. 강도경 감독님, 선수단과 함께 좋은 성적 낼 수 있도록 많은 응원 부탁 드립니다. 그리고 김명식 선수와 고인빈 선수가 kt롤스터를 떠나게 되었습니다. 다른곳에서도 좋은 모습 보여주길 바라며 항상 응원하겠습니다! 끝으로 스타크래프트 팀의 선수 현황입니다. - 감독 : 강도경 - 코치 : 류원 - Terran : 이영호, 전태양, 박숭 - Protoss : 주성욱, 김대엽, 김주열 - Zerg : 김성대, 김성한
If somewone can translate all , it will help a lot , from whath i understand with google translate , Hitman left and somewone joins :D
Not really surprising considering he got no playing time. Not sure if Hitman wants to stay in KeSPA or go to a foreign team. If the latter's the case, I don't really expect him to be playing SC2 for much longer (don't know how many foreign teams will really be looking for a b-team KeSPA player).
It's a post stating that KT Rolster has a new roster, and it mentions who is in and who is out, the new coach, the new 'overseer/headcoach'(감독) etc. So basically all the players you still see on that list are still in, everyone you don't see is leaving.
On September 18 2014 09:25 lastshadow wrote: It's a post stating that KT Rolster has a new roster, and it mentions who is in and who is out, the new coach, the new 'overseer/headcoach'(감독) etc. So basically all the players you still see on that list are still in, everyone you don't see is leaving.
Who are the listed coaches? HOTForever and Ryu Won?
On September 18 2014 09:41 Pangpootata wrote: HoeJJa is gone? =(
He's been a coach for a while, but I recall seeing a picture of him in an army uniform on their Facebook a little while back. So no more coaching either.
KT Rolster such a great team they have the best terran & protoss players in the world.. but I guess they really need a great Zerg.. they are great but not very solid
On September 18 2014 10:32 cookiz wrote: KT Rolster such a great team they have the best terran & protoss players in the world.. but I guess they really need a great Zerg.. they are great but not very solid
On September 18 2014 10:32 cookiz wrote: KT Rolster such a great team they have the best terran & protoss players in the world.. but I guess they really need a great Zerg.. they are great but not very solid
They just won Pro League?
Not solid enough i guess. But yeah i would like to have a good Zerg on KT, Life would be nice
On September 18 2014 10:32 cookiz wrote: KT Rolster such a great team they have the best terran & protoss players in the world.. but I guess they really need a great Zerg.. they are great but not very solid
They just won Pro League?
I know they are great. but they also lost to MVP in R2 playoff remember..0:4 all killed by Billowy just not solid enough I guess. well..I mean their zerg line..
On September 18 2014 10:32 cookiz wrote: KT Rolster such a great team they have the best terran & protoss players in the world.. but I guess they really need a great Zerg.. they are great but not very solid
They just won Pro League?
Not solid enough i guess. But yeah i would like to have a good Zerg on KT, Life would be nice
On September 18 2014 10:32 cookiz wrote: KT Rolster such a great team they have the best terran & protoss players in the world.. but I guess they really need a great Zerg.. they are great but not very solid
They just won Pro League?
Not solid enough i guess. But yeah i would like to have a good Zerg on KT, Life would be nice
DRG or effOrt more likely, or even RagnaroK.
But didn't DRG and effOrt leave their teams because they didn't want to play PL anymore? It won't be cool for them to join KT then, and certainly as a KT fan if they're not gonna put their hearts on it I rather have another player even if he's less skilled...
On September 18 2014 09:41 Pangpootata wrote: HoeJJa is gone? =(
He's been a coach for a while, but I recall seeing a picture of him in an army uniform on their Facebook a little while back. So no more coaching either.
If they don't find a place in a foreign team it's because there are no places, not because they're not "qualified" or so
Seems that A LOT of KeSPA players - even A-teamers are trying to "find their luck on their own".. That's a sick bold move for a young person to make in their lives..
Especially providing that the SC2 scene is more or less - already defined.. Some of them may have periods of "having to win online tournaments" or IDK - sell fishes in order for life sustain.. They'll have to join "anonymous teams" with not so good conditions and/or not well enough established, OR - help each other and start a team of their own.. I mean - it seemed for a moment that MC had the brand of "his own team", but still - self-finance is different than managing others as well.. I doubt that there's something like MC "foundation" so he could take others and play, so yes - they're left on their own now
GL HF to everyone - yes (which is neigh impossible, some will take places of others), but - would like to see KeSPA working well as intended though
When you see the WCS table of tournaments - you see only GSL CodeS (WCS Korea i.e.) that's the only T1 event.. CodeA is not even T2, but T3 event - i.e. - winner of CodeA gets 300 WCS points, not 750.. AND - there are plethora of events around the world (with probably more to come - mostly IEMs, Dreamhacks I think so far are strictly only in Europe) that are good "sources" to the the WCS points, so..
Blizz should really increase the WCS points gain in Korea I think, probably the #1 source of initiating all these migrations and changes are not enough prize pools and not enough points in Korean region I think.. It's kinda hard to "balance it out", but they should maybe "count" proleague - something like 5 wins of a player in proleague gives 300 WCS points.. sth. like that.. BUT - it wouldn't happen cause of partnerships maybe.. So IDK - to me seems like it's Blizz' fault, as well as Blizz' answer to find..
The good thing is that there were "signs" that Blizz would solve the "visa issues" which is great, but - that's just a further "encouragement" of the problem rather than the solution IMO
Don't get me wrong, I think it would be great if Blizz finally guaranteed the best to their own best, but - obviously there have to be some "overhauls".. Which may arrive too late, or not till the next year IMO
But don't worry. KT is still best KT and will win the next proleague ! Then in legacy of the void, Hoejja will return and destroy everyone under KT's banner !
On September 18 2014 09:53 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Guess it DOES happen to KT as well.
*shrug* Just end of year roster shuffling going on. EVERY team is going to go through roster shake ups over the next couple months. This isn't really anything out of the ordinary.
BTW, do we have any idea where Innovation is going to end up yet?
Hello, this is KT Rolster. To begin with, we want to apologize for the late announcement. First, we have recruited Coach Ryu-Won for our Starcraft Team. Please cheer a lot for Manager Kang Doh Gyung (H.O.T-Forever) and the Squad to bring good results. Also, Kim Myung-Sik and Goh In Bin (Hitman) have left KT Rolster. We hope that they will show good form in other places as well, and will always cheer for them. Last, the current state of the Starcraft Team Athletes (Player list): - Manager : Kang Doh Gyung - Coach : Ryu Won - Terran : Lee Young Ho (Flash), Jun Tae Yang (TY), Park Soong (Miso) - Protoss : Joo Sung Wook (Zest), Kim Dae Yeob (Stats), Kim Ju Yeol (Believe) - Zerg : Kim Seong Dae (Action), Kim Seong Han (Sleep)
I was hoping the Ryu Won transfer wasn't real, he's worked wonders for Jin Air and I'd have loved to have seen stay there, but I guess with Hoejja gone for military they had to pick up someone.
hitmaN leaving, wonder where he'll go, he only played around 2 games for KT last season. Prime maybe?
Also why do KeSPA teams lack really good Zergs. There's soO and Soulkey and that's pretty much it right now O-o
On September 19 2014 00:08 KatatoniK wrote: I was hoping the Ryu Won transfer wasn't real, he's worked wonders for Jin Air and I'd have loved to have seen stay there, but I guess with Hoejja gone for military they had to pick up someone.
hitmaN leaving, wonder where he'll go, he only played around 2 games for KT last season. Prime maybe?
Also why do KeSPA teams lack really good Zergs. There's soO and Soulkey and that's pretty much it right now O-o
TRUE, DRG, Action (ok i'm biased). Rogue are good too
On September 19 2014 00:08 KatatoniK wrote: I was hoping the Ryu Won transfer wasn't real, he's worked wonders for Jin Air and I'd have loved to have seen stay there, but I guess with Hoejja gone for military they had to pick up someone.
hitmaN leaving, wonder where he'll go, he only played around 2 games for KT last season. Prime maybe?
Also why do KeSPA teams lack really good Zergs. There's soO and Soulkey and that's pretty much it right now O-o
TRUE, DRG, Action (ok i'm biased). Rogue are good too
TRUE and DRG are not on Kespa teams anymore though, so nowadays most really good zergs are teamless or on non-Kespa teams (I feel there are not many really good zergs overall anyway ; the list is pretty much limited to soO, Life, TRUE, DRG and maybe Snute, JD and Soulkey)
On September 18 2014 12:11 stuchiu wrote: Congrats to KT for getting the best coach in the scene.
Is that really true or is that just because MMA mentioned him a lot in 2011? Woongjin Stars didn't win the league and neither did Jin Air. I'm curious since I've always been intrigued by the Korean coaching system, but outside of Coach Park it's so difficult to get concrete information about them.
On September 18 2014 10:32 cookiz wrote: KT Rolster such a great team they have the best terran & protoss players in the world.. but I guess they really need a great Zerg.. they are great but not very solid
They just won Pro League?
I know they are great. but they also lost to MVP in R2 playoff remember..0:4 all killed by Billowy just not solid enough I guess. well..I mean their zerg line..
how can a team be great but not very solid? wtf? if a team is great, means they are top tier. not very solid means below average. whatt???
and your analysis is like taking a teams low points and pretending thats how the team usually plays. thats a horrible way of analyzing.
On September 18 2014 10:32 cookiz wrote: KT Rolster such a great team they have the best terran & protoss players in the world.. but I guess they really need a great Zerg.. they are great but not very solid
They just won Pro League?
I know they are great. but they also lost to MVP in R2 playoff remember..0:4 all killed by Billowy just not solid enough I guess. well..I mean their zerg line..
how can a team be great but not very solid? wtf? if a team is great, means they are top tier. not very solid means below average. whatt???
and your analysis is like taking a teams low points and pretending thats how the team usually plays. thats a horrible way of analyzing.
Maybe we are a bit predictable without a really solid zerg, but let's be real, pretty much all teams in proleague have this kind of problem.
On September 18 2014 12:11 stuchiu wrote: Congrats to KT for getting the best coach in the scene.
Is that really true or is that just because MMA mentioned him a lot in 2011? Woongjin Stars didn't win the league and neither did Jin Air. I'm curious since I've always been intrigued by the Korean coaching system, but outside of Coach Park it's so difficult to get concrete information about them.
Honestly, all the praise was coming from MMA as his personal coach, particularly with match planning and BO prep. Team coaching is a different beast entirely. KT has the talent, so this will be a great assessment of his talent.
On September 18 2014 12:11 stuchiu wrote: Congrats to KT for getting the best coach in the scene.
Is that really true or is that just because MMA mentioned him a lot in 2011? Woongjin Stars didn't win the league and neither did Jin Air. I'm curious since I've always been intrigued by the Korean coaching system, but outside of Coach Park it's so difficult to get concrete information about them.
Well, Woongjin did get a very good record in the regular season, and produced two of the most defining players of HotS - sOs and Soulkey. Jin Air has produced great results with Maru, Rogue and Cure.
On September 18 2014 11:45 Seeker wrote: Oh cool. They hired Ryu Won from SlayerS/Jin Air
expect Flash to totally BAWS everything now. I've never really understood where Ryu stood between MMA and SlayerS back in the day, but if its anything like 2011, he might become the god of SC2, as he was in BW.
On September 19 2014 00:08 KatatoniK wrote: I was hoping the Ryu Won transfer wasn't real, he's worked wonders for Jin Air and I'd have loved to have seen stay there, but I guess with Hoejja gone for military they had to pick up someone.
hitmaN leaving, wonder where he'll go, he only played around 2 games for KT last season. Prime maybe?
Also why do KeSPA teams lack really good Zergs. There's soO and Soulkey and that's pretty much it right now O-o
On September 19 2014 00:08 KatatoniK wrote: I was hoping the Ryu Won transfer wasn't real, he's worked wonders for Jin Air and I'd have loved to have seen stay there, but I guess with Hoejja gone for military they had to pick up someone.
hitmaN leaving, wonder where he'll go, he only played around 2 games for KT last season. Prime maybe?
Also why do KeSPA teams lack really good Zergs. There's soO and Soulkey and that's pretty much it right now O-o
ByuL's pretty good
Solar too.
But yea, Zerg is probably the weakest represented overall.
On September 18 2014 10:32 cookiz wrote: KT Rolster such a great team they have the best terran & protoss players in the world.. but I guess they really need a great Zerg.. they are great but not very solid
They just won Pro League?
I know they are great. but they also lost to MVP in R2 playoff remember..0:4 all killed by Billowy just not solid enough I guess. well..I mean their zerg line..
how can a team be great but not very solid? wtf? if a team is great, means they are top tier. not very solid means below average. whatt???
and your analysis is like taking a teams low points and pretending thats how the team usually plays. thats a horrible way of analyzing.
Maybe we are a bit predictable without a really solid zerg, but let's be real, pretty much all teams in proleague have this kind of problem.
On September 19 2014 00:08 KatatoniK wrote: I was hoping the Ryu Won transfer wasn't real, he's worked wonders for Jin Air and I'd have loved to have seen stay there, but I guess with Hoejja gone for military they had to pick up someone.
hitmaN leaving, wonder where he'll go, he only played around 2 games for KT last season. Prime maybe?
Also why do KeSPA teams lack really good Zergs. There's soO and Soulkey and that's pretty much it right now O-o