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For this new expansion, (the protoss expansion) they only have one new unit. That kinda sucks. Feeling a little bit under powered... Comparing to Zerg and Specially Terran changes.
I think bringing back the lurker is the best thing they could make for the zerg. The lurker is an iconic unit and make me feel like "good'ol broodwar days". They should do the same for the reaver.
The Reaver is literally the only thing I'm asking for
Poll: Protoss should gets Reaver in LotVYes (547) 60% No (370) 40% 917 total votes Your vote: Protoss should gets Reaver in LotV (Vote): Yes (Vote): No
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Protoss kind of has enough harassment options already... unless they got rid of one that already exists I think it'd just be too much
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What role would the reaver fill? It doens't make any sense to add reavers while there's the colossus ;/
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The reaver was brought back. Its now called the siege tank.
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Isn't the Disruptor basically a reaver with a ball shape and which has a direct attack instead of scarabs?
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Would rather have reaver than disruptor.
Although if the tank change remains I might just play Terran because medivac+tank plays very similarly to the reaver+prism.
On November 10 2014 07:17 nkr wrote: What role would the reaver fill? It doens't make any sense to add reavers while there's the colossus ;/ Good question. Functionally, it allows Blizzard to retune the Colossus to fulfill a more specific niche rather than multi-purpose destroy everything unit. Reavers in BW weren't ever something that you could mass to ridiculous numbers except in certain circumstances -- slow fire rate and the slow speed of scarabs meant that too many reavers would fire on the same target and a lot of the extra shots would be wasted. While the Colossus over AoE over time, the Reaver offers large bursts of AoE akin to the disruptor at the moment. However the Reaver also fulfils a siege role and is useful vs ultralisks when defended properly. Disruptors at this point in the game are either effectively mines (detonate and die) or win-more units, I feel the Reaver offers more rich gameplay for those reasons.
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I think Protoss needs a new gateway/early game unit, they have enough splash and late game power. I'm pretty sure Blizzard will deliver, there is more for Protoss in the works than was shown.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 10 2014 07:24 Musicus wrote: I think Protoss needs a new gateway/early game unit, they have enough splash and late game power. I'm pretty sure Blizzard will deliver, there is more for Protoss in the works than was shown. Indeed, tweets suggest there is another new unit for Protoss in the works that was not at Blizzcon. (Pls Dark Archon)
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On November 10 2014 07:25 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2014 07:24 Musicus wrote: I think Protoss needs a new gateway/early game unit, they have enough splash and late game power. I'm pretty sure Blizzard will deliver, there is more for Protoss in the works than was shown. Indeed, tweets suggest there is another new unit for Protoss in the works that was not at Blizzcon. (Pls Dark Archon)
Dragoons making a comeback?!
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Austria24413 Posts
On November 10 2014 07:25 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2014 07:24 Musicus wrote: I think Protoss needs a new gateway/early game unit, they have enough splash and late game power. I'm pretty sure Blizzard will deliver, there is more for Protoss in the works than was shown. Indeed, tweets suggest there is another new unit for Protoss in the works that was not at Blizzcon. (Pls Dark Archon)
I really hope they do something with archons. Right now they're a chunky a move unit
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SC2 is not BW and will never even look like it due to the interface. Bring back the reaver if it fulfills any interesting role no other Protoss unit can fulfill. Otherwise, leave it to BW where it belongs.
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On November 10 2014 07:25 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2014 07:24 Musicus wrote: I think Protoss needs a new gateway/early game unit, they have enough splash and late game power. I'm pretty sure Blizzard will deliver, there is more for Protoss in the works than was shown. Indeed, tweets suggest there is another new unit for Protoss in the works that was not at Blizzcon. (Pls Dark Archon) A new unit would be interesting. Something early on to stop cyclones maybe? Heheh.
Kidding of course. I don't think Dark Archon would have much role in sc2. Units don't stack as much as the muta ball in bw.
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On November 10 2014 07:25 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2014 07:24 Musicus wrote: I think Protoss needs a new gateway/early game unit, they have enough splash and late game power. I'm pretty sure Blizzard will deliver, there is more for Protoss in the works than was shown. Indeed, tweets suggest there is another new unit for Protoss in the works that was not at Blizzcon. (Pls Dark Archon)
What was the difference between Archon and Dark Archon? Didn't play BW. I think to remember it could cast storm?
Edit: Oh no it was Feedback, I knew it was a HT spell . And Maelstrom and Mind Control, interesting.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Dark_Archon
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There must be something happen to Collosus if Reaver or Disruptor are to be added.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 10 2014 07:35 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2014 07:25 Plexa wrote:On November 10 2014 07:24 Musicus wrote: I think Protoss needs a new gateway/early game unit, they have enough splash and late game power. I'm pretty sure Blizzard will deliver, there is more for Protoss in the works than was shown. Indeed, tweets suggest there is another new unit for Protoss in the works that was not at Blizzcon. (Pls Dark Archon) What was the difference between Archon and Dark Archon? Didn't play BW. I think to remember it could cast storm? Unlike SC2, you couldn't merge different templar. x2 Dark Templar = Dark Archon. While HTs combined to give a very powerful attacking unit, two DTs combined to create a spellcaster only unit. The Dark Archon had three abilities; feedback (same as HT feedback in sc2), maelstrom (brief AoE stun on biological units only) and Mind Control (take over a unit permanently, DA loses all shields in the process).
While those spells don't need to come back, the concept of an incredibly powerful archon mage (and the possibility of a hybrid archon) was something I've always wanted to see in SC2
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On November 10 2014 07:38 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2014 07:35 Musicus wrote:On November 10 2014 07:25 Plexa wrote:On November 10 2014 07:24 Musicus wrote: I think Protoss needs a new gateway/early game unit, they have enough splash and late game power. I'm pretty sure Blizzard will deliver, there is more for Protoss in the works than was shown. Indeed, tweets suggest there is another new unit for Protoss in the works that was not at Blizzcon. (Pls Dark Archon) What was the difference between Archon and Dark Archon? Didn't play BW. I think to remember it could cast storm? Unlike SC2, you couldn't merge different templar. x2 Dark Templar = Dark Archon. While HTs combined to give a very powerful attacking unit, two DTs combined to create a spellcaster only unit. The Dark Archon had three abilities; feedback (same as HT feedback in sc2), maelstrom (brief AoE stun on biological units only) and Mind Control (take over a unit permanently, DA loses all shields in the process). While those spells don't need to come back, the concept of an incredibly powerful archon mage (and the possibility of a hybrid archon) was something I've always wanted to see in SC2
Wait I've never seen a DT and HT morph before, haha holy shit I didn't know that. The concept of Hts and Dts morphing to different archons is awesome, I'd definitely want to see that .
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LotV has been officially announced for ONE DAY, and here we go already with the "bring back x" threads.
Admittedly it's the Reaver, which, honestly, I agree with 100%, if it weren't for the fact that we're getting both the new Disruptor and the pick up at range Warp Prism ability, which together seem like they will basically fulfill the same role as Reaver/Shuttle.
But I would give up both the Disruptor and Colossus in a heartbeat to have the old Reavers back in action. I just don't think Blizzard is going to cut any pre-existing units at this point.
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The Disruptor is basically a Reaver, w/o being another BW unit. Little funny how hard time they have to make up new units, meaning every new unit is just a BW one. The one thing cool about the Reaver though, is that they aren't just another Orb/Spider looking unit. Oracle, Sentry, Mothership Core for orbs and Stalker/Immortal/Colossus for Spider looking. Something a lot more ancient looking would be cool, or more humanoids/energy forms.
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Russian Federation4295 Posts
Terrans got reaver (siege tank drops), so nope. Protoss must cry.
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Someone asked in the LOTV multiplayer panel that there was only one new protoss unit and the devs replied that there are units that aren't ready to be shown yet so hopefully we will see more microable units. Who know maybe they have the reaver already. They should just remove the collosus all together and add the reaver and disrupter.
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