Create the first ever Reality Show in esports
Aquire our own Pro Gamer Teams.
Build the first ever dedicated esports arena in a suitable location.
Create a world tour similar to F1 Championships."
http://trigesports.com/index.php#why-now
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mnck
Denmark1518 Posts
Create the first ever Reality Show in esports Aquire our own Pro Gamer Teams. Build the first ever dedicated esports arena in a suitable location. Create a world tour similar to F1 Championships." http://trigesports.com/index.php#why-now What? | ||
Boucot
France15997 Posts
On February 12 2015 04:04 Musicus wrote: Show nested quote + Trig Social Media AB (publ) is making a serious financial commitment to the rapidly emerging esports market by creating a community-driven esports organization. It will not only host a series of major events around the world, but also set up a number professional teams in the major gaming disciplines, arranging international tournaments and adding structure to the fragmented esports world. As part of this effort, Trig has made a number of recruitments within esports. The mid-term plan also encompasses the establishment of thirteen specialized esports arenas around the world capable of hosting a minimum of 14 000 people each. Trig’s ultimate goal is to establish a new world headquarters for esports outside the East-Asia region, and thus, stake a major claim in the esports realm. This is from the news where they announce their LoL team. If only half of what they plan would become true, it would truly be a fantastic story. If only... . Edit: http://trigesports.com/news.html YOLO | ||
Musicus
Germany23567 Posts
It's at least good to know, that someone trustworthy from the scene has met them! | ||
lestye
United States4104 Posts
On February 12 2015 04:01 Clubfan wrote: Show nested quote + On February 12 2015 03:59 lestye wrote: On February 12 2015 03:29 ejozl wrote: Kind of like when he was the only notable player on SK. He was on SK for a while, and if foreigner team leagues weren't that huge, I think an org picking up one really solid player is better than a handfull of OK ones. Similiar to how every team but Liquid has 1 really good Smash player. Liquid actually has 4 smash players now (and they already started with 2), but yes, I can get your point to kind of "ignore" western team leagues I mean to say everyone has 1, but Liquid who has 4. EG 1, Curse (at the time)had 1, C9 had 1, Alliance has only 1, | ||
Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
They kind of sound like supervillains to me. | ||
Clubfan
Germany913 Posts
On February 12 2015 04:20 lestye wrote: Show nested quote + On February 12 2015 04:01 Clubfan wrote: On February 12 2015 03:59 lestye wrote: On February 12 2015 03:29 ejozl wrote: Kind of like when he was the only notable player on SK. He was on SK for a while, and if foreigner team leagues weren't that huge, I think an org picking up one really solid player is better than a handfull of OK ones. Similiar to how every team but Liquid has 1 really good Smash player. Liquid actually has 4 smash players now (and they already started with 2), but yes, I can get your point to kind of "ignore" western team leagues I mean to say everyone has 1, but Liquid who has 4. EG 1, Curse (at the time)had 1, C9 had 1, Alliance has only 1, Oh sorry, I really had a brainfart. | ||
Advantageous
China1350 Posts
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
Very, very high goals which will not bring anything back till you investet large stackes of money. Some of their plans sound like ESEF. Maybe they will find enough 3rd person risk capital to become something serious, they are not just a small esport team, they want to do real big things, ESEF style and they think esport can be big enough make em big. I highly doubt that. I doubt they will find enough capital that is investet into them, because their buisness just does not sound functional, esport is not that large. If their "mid-term goals" come true, we have a buisness that is 10x times bigger then the esl. And the ESL is older than some players. Even stupid German Money or stupid Oil money will not help em. I give them 50% chance to exist in 1 year, 20% in 2 years and 5% in 3 years. It is not about that they make no profits atm, thats normal. Even if they wouldnt make profits, but at least significant Revenue in 3 years, that would be okay. But their Buisnessplan sounds like drawn by someone who has no idea of esport. Maybe he heard "twitch got sold for 1B$" and thought "esport big, i make big monez" | ||
Waxangel
United States32496 Posts
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iNsaNe-
Finland5201 Posts
On February 12 2015 00:15 Ammanas wrote: ^ he probably just wants to launder some money. Which I don't understand why anyone think is bad for esports, money is money wherever they came from. (yes I don't have problem with people throwing dirty money at eSports, fuck me). to clarify, same happens in real sports, just in much bigger stakes - do you think all the money Abramovich is throwing at Chelsea are 'clean' money? Didn't think so... How could you possibly think that this is good for eSports? Short-term it might be good for MC, but on longer term if it is going to cause drama it will be harder to attract proper sponsoring for legit teams. And yeah Abramovich might've done his bit of shady business but his money is "legit". | ||
Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
-so basically the guys behind Trig, Anthony Norman (Swedish, 40 yo) and Phillip Cook (British, 60 yo), seem to buy parts of companies and then make money from it, most of the time by persuading rich people to throw money at them and then using the money for themselves (and then make sure legal issues/people complaining about not being payed fall on the rich people they persuaded to give money at them). Since it'll be important for later, notice that Norman is the CEO of Viral Angels. -Phillip Cook lived/lives in the United Arab Emirates after crashing in the financial market in the UK. This probably explains the "we'll do some shit in Dubai" thing. -Trig is NOT a new company. According to this, this and that and as far as I can understand this, the Trig Media Group was created in 2003 and changed its name three times, while Trig Social Media and Trig Entertainment (two brands owned by said Trig Media Group) were both created in 2009. -Looking at the list of people involved in Norman-related companies leads to a lot of various people, ranging from total unknowns on the Internet to a Swedish count & countess. -Concerning what exactly is Trig in terms of what they are selling, I'll link to this reddit post although I'd add that while there are big names among the shops signed up with them, some are more limited than the first look tends to give (like the "Nike" listed is in fact Nike Brazil and Nike Brazil only). -Let's have a look (and a laugh !) at the Board of Directors : we have here Anthony Norman, Ruben Amaryan (who was "CEO and Chairman of the Board of the largest telecom company in Russia" ; and we all know CEOs of large companies in Russia usually means very, very shady business), Juan Carlos Castro Fernandez, about whom I found literally nothing interesting, and Lars Hellewig, former lawyer who is also member of the board of two companies, Aerial Drone System Scandinavia AB and E Sport Challenge ESP AB. And here you'll have a laugh : look at this and this. These are the only relevant things (allabolag.se gives underwhelming results to say the least : here and here) that come on Google when searching informations about these two companies. Notice how the website, Fortune6000 doesn't look shady at all ; it advertises ONLY brands related to Norman/Viral Angels, both posts have no date, and, best of the best, this totally-not-shady and very professional quote : "Did you know that ESports is five times bigger than soccer? There are 1,6 billion gamers worldwide. 700 million of those play online. That’s just a few of many numbers that proves how lucrative this market is. Our listed company E Sport Challenge has a unique product and service that’s not yet available on the market. Don’t miss the special limited offer coming from this company. This is an opportunity you don’t want to miss. It’s an exclusive offer to all Viral Angels members." e : another good quote, from the Aerial Drone post this time : "You might have seen that NASA is copying our ambitions for a flight control system comparable to the commercial airspace systems." -Obviously but I hadn't thought of that, there are no other publication about them apart from what themselves published. Like you would think that something with a potential as huge as what they describe would get some attention from public media. They don't have any jobs listing too, which is kinda surprising for a company that want to create a social network. -The only good things that seem to go for them is that their advisors look kinda legit, but I am a complete noob in this field so it may be bullshit. -So, yeah, now, my opinion : apparently what Trig pretends to do is to make a social network in the most classical way possible (with totally absurd self-imposed rules for a company that intends to make a lot of money), added to the TrigMoney thing, and that is supposed to earn them enough money to build arenas in Dubai and have a major eSports event here in the first half of 2015. No shit. And on top of that, they recruited eSports players while they have honestly little interest in sponsoring them since they don't sell products (but then again Bison sponsors mYi and a hockey team, so yeah). In all honesty I have no idea if Norman&friends went crazy and think they can make a lot of money in eSports or if (more likely) they'll try to make money off of this like they did with previous companies. Now the thing I'd like to do would be to phone call Norman or at least the phone numbers associated to his companies, but I don't have the time nor the money to do that T_T edit : oh yeah I forgot, the corporate adress of Norman indicated on Bloomberg is this : https://www.google.com/maps/place/Vikdalsgränd 10, 131 40 Nacka, Sweden/@59.31228,18.156958,3a,69.2y,37.54h,99.23t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s2JmeVsqYq25QjtqMlm-d2Q!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x465f7878bd7972d1:0x94f52bb5595e7048!6m1!1e1 edit² : added another laughable quote from Hellewig's companies | ||
Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
This definitely looks super shady, and this is not going to end well... | ||
lestye
United States4104 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23567 Posts
On February 12 2015 05:10 OtherWorld wrote: + Show Spoiler + Ok I did some additional research without much success, most of what I find is in Swedish and Google translate indicates that it's just standard business bullshit of buying/selling/merging companies. The most interesting things I found : -so basically the guys behind Trig, Anthony Norman (Swedish, 40 yo) and Phillip Cook (British, 60 yo), seem to buy parts of companies and then make money from it, most of the time by persuading rich people to throw money at them and then using the money for themselves (and then make sure legal issues/people complaining about not being payed fall on the rich people they persuaded to give money at them). Since it'll be important for later, notice that Norman is the CEO of Viral Angels. -Phillip Cook lived/lives in the United Arab Emirates after crashing in the financial market in the UK. This probably explains the "we'll do some shit in Dubai" thing. -Trig is NOT a new company. According to this, this and that and as far as I can understand this, the Trig Media Group was created in 2003 and changed its name three times, while Trig Social Media and Trig Entertainment (two brands owned by said Trig Media Group) were both created in 2009. -Looking at the list of people involved in Norman-related companies leads to a lot of various people, ranging from total unknowns on the Internet to a Swedish count & countess. -Concerning what exactly is Trig in terms of what they are selling, I'll link to this reddit post although I'd add that while there are big names among the shops signed up with them, some are more limited than the first look tends to give (like the "Nike" listed is in fact Nike Brazil and Nike Brazil only). -Let's have a look (and a laugh !) at the Board of Directors : we have here Anthony Norman, Ruben Amaryan (who was "CEO and Chairman of the Board of the largest telecom company in Russia" ; and we all know CEOs of large companies in Russia usually means very, very shady business), Juan Carlos Castro Fernandez, about whom I found literally nothing interesting, and Lars Hellewig, former lawyer who is also member of the board of two companies, Aerial Drone System Scandinavia AB and E Sport Challenge ESP AB. And here you'll have a laugh : look at this and this. These are the only relevant things (allabolag.se gives underwhelming results to say the least : here and here) that come on Google when searching informations about these two companies. Notice how the website, Fortune6000 doesn't look shady at all ; it advertises ONLY brands related to Norman/Viral Angels, both posts have no date, and, best of the best, this totally-not-shady and very professional quote : "Did you know that ESports is five times bigger than soccer? There are 1,6 billion gamers worldwide. 700 million of those play online. That’s just a few of many numbers that proves how lucrative this market is. Our listed company E Sport Challenge has a unique product and service that’s not yet available on the market. Don’t miss the special limited offer coming from this company. This is an opportunity you don’t want to miss. It’s an exclusive offer to all Viral Angels members." e : another good quote, from the Aerial Drone post this time : "You might have seen that NASA is copying our ambitions for a flight control system comparable to the commercial airspace systems." -The only good things that seem to go for them is that their advisors look kinda legit, but I am a complete noob in this field so it may be bullshit. -So, yeah, now, my opinion : apparently what Trig pretends to do is to make a social network in the most classical way possible (with totally absurd self-imposed rules for a company that intends to make a lot of money), added to the TrigMoney thing, and that is supposed to earn them enough money to build arenas in Dubai and have a major eSports event here in the first half of 2015. No shit. And on top of that, they recruited eSports players while they have honestly little interest in sponsoring them since they don't sell products (but then again Bison sponsors mYi and a hockey team, so yeah). In all honesty I have no idea if Norman&friends went crazy and think they can make a lot of money in eSports or if (more likely) they'll try to make money off of this like they did with previous companies. Now the thing I'd like to do would be to phone call Norman or at least the phone numbers associated to his companies, but I don't have the time nor the money to do that T_T edit : oh yeah I forgot, the corporate adress of Norman indicated on Bloomberg is this : https://www.google.com/maps/place/Vikdalsgränd 10, 131 40 Nacka, Sweden/@59.31228,18.156958,3a,69.2y,37.54h,99.23t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s2JmeVsqYq25QjtqMlm-d2Q!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x465f7878bd7972d1:0x94f52bb5595e7048!6m1!1e1 edit² : added another laughable quote from Hellewig's companies Thanks for the info, very interesting! I linked to your post on Reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2vjdwv/mc_joins_trig_esports/ | ||
Liquid`Snute
Norway839 Posts
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jakethesnake
Canada4948 Posts
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
well they did an AMA edit: they kind of said nothing, but a coach did say: "A sustainable salary and more room for us to evolve alongside SMITE, and an increased responsiveness since there is no timezone difference." when asked why he joined the team and also that the "salary is enough to sustain us without a job" | ||
spoonmaster
United States347 Posts
On February 12 2015 06:04 Alchemik wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/Smite/comments/2vjl8u/we_are_trig_esports_ask_us_anything/ well they did an AMA edit: they kind of said nothing, but a coach did say: "A sustainable salary and more room for us to evolve alongside SMITE, and an increased responsiveness since there is no timezone difference." when asked why he joined the team and also that the "salary is enough to sustain us without a job" All the questions are so naïve...reminds me of a time we had before #brokenpromises | ||
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