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Oh wow Prime is the deadest. TY vs YoDa, Flash vs MacSed, Zest vs Creator, Life vs KeeN, RIP.
SBENU vs Jin Air is super hype and oh my CJ vs SKT... Dream vs ByuL :O. Looking like a great week.
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I made mistakes in my FPL sigh
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KT: Same lineu....Wait we're playing PRIME? Ahhh Fuck it TY can play then
I would laugh if Macsed Protosses Flash though
Look at Style. Start. SBENU. Let's party like it's 2011
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So I've just realised they've got the date as Monday and Tuesday the 16th and 17th...
Did I miss something about it being on the weekend or did they mean 18th/19th?
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My FPL is fucked. Also Prime 3-1 you heard it here first.
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I hope KT's coach doesn't just keep using Flash on Vaani and Deadwing over and over and over again like the last round. Just asking to be sniped.
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Jin Air vs SBENU and SKT vs CJ Entus. :O sick lineup
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Wow, DRG can beat Rogue, MMA can beat Cure and Bomber can beat sOs. If everything goes right for SBENU, they might be able to beat Jinair. The only player who can't beat the Jinair player is Myungsik. Let's face it, he is way way worse than Maru.
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On May 15 2015 17:14 Cricketer12 wrote: My FPL is fucked. Also Prime 3-1 you heard it here first. Mine possibly too. If MMA and Reality win. Stats not playing doesn't help
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rofl, Gumi vs Solar on Deadwing. Good thing I got Gumi ahead of time and put Solar on anti.
CJ vs SKT looks insane. ByuL vs Dream is going to be good.
TY's back?! :O
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My FPL is mostly SKT and SBENU ;_;. Serves me right for being too lazy to check the team matchups for the first few weeks though.
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Infinitely hyped! Quick thoughts:
Creator stays on the anti. And it is the only position I'm sure in. Everything else... Oh, boy... If GuMiho can show the level of DH:Tours it would be great! Solar -> MyuNgSiK on anti? I'm staying on SBENU hype train. Classic has done enough... Maybe, Classic -> Zest? Seems a good tactical choice, but in the long run?
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GUMIGOD :D
Still no jjakji, guess SBENU doesn't want to win everything at once!
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On May 15 2015 17:24 swag_bro wrote: Wow, DRG can beat Rogue, MMA can beat Cure and Bomber can beat sOs. If everything goes right for SBENU, they might be able to beat Jinair. The only player who can't beat the Jinair player is Myungsik. Let's face it, he is way way worse than Maru.
I don't think DRG can beat Rogue, and sOs' playstyle is counter to bomber's playstyle.
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i have to root against gumiho so MVP loses :/
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I hoped for a non TvP matchup for Maru... but... well... not gonna happen :-/ I still think vs Zerg/Terran he's not even near as unbeatable as against Toss,
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Happy that TY gets to play. He looked pretty good earlier this week despite not getting out of his group
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CJ vs SKT looks like the match of the season! Great match ups! Prime is quite unlucky in the draw though
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I wan more of STATS 555555555555555555 555555555555555555 55555555555555555 I rather see more Stats than Zest~~~~ Not that I feel Zest is weaker than Stats. Just that I have the ..
Feelings, to see him perform well to see him perform more. Somehow wan the whole world to see him play, see him win . that kind of feeling.
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Really have to think about my FPL this week, and I really fucked up by doing my ritual innovation captain t_t : SKT vs CJ is so so so sick the best lineups from both teams, they hype is real.
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Flash vs Macsed, LOL Too bad Commander KeeN won't get to teach Life a thing or two
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That MVP lineup is Super strong!
I think Prime got some good matchups. If Yoda can channel his TvT power again...and Creator could beat Zest again...and then OBVIOUSLY KT will send out Zest again for the Ace...and the Creator beats him agaim....right???
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I think CJ can do it. It's gonna be tough, but it's doable. I'm talking about the 3-0 ofc. Other than that RIP my FPL.
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This might be wrong,. Curious is playing instead of MMA according to proleagues facebook page
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JIN AIR VS SBENU IT'S REAL HOLDING DOWN THE SHIFT KEY
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Zest vs Creator rematch. Payback time for Zest?
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On May 15 2015 18:21 swissman777 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2015 17:24 swag_bro wrote: Wow, DRG can beat Rogue, MMA can beat Cure and Bomber can beat sOs. If everything goes right for SBENU, they might be able to beat Jinair. The only player who can't beat the Jinair player is Myungsik. Let's face it, he is way way worse than Maru. I don't think DRG can beat Rogue, and sOs' playstyle is counter to bomber's playstyle. Normally I agree but you just got swag_bro'd
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On May 15 2015 20:12 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2015 18:21 swissman777 wrote:On May 15 2015 17:24 swag_bro wrote: Wow, DRG can beat Rogue, MMA can beat Cure and Bomber can beat sOs. If everything goes right for SBENU, they might be able to beat Jinair. The only player who can't beat the Jinair player is Myungsik. Let's face it, he is way way worse than Maru. I don't think DRG can beat Rogue, and sOs' playstyle is counter to bomber's playstyle. Normally I agree but you just got swag_bro'd You'd agree that DRG can't beat Rogue, and you call yourself a fan?
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Pls SBENU gods, all the matches look winnable.
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Cool to see SKTplaying their in forms player and not slumpo.
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Can't wait for Choya+GuMiho strats
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On May 15 2015 20:41 sAsImre wrote: Cool to see SKTplaying their in forms player and not slumpo. soO's individual league performance makes me question if you're completely correct.
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On May 15 2015 20:47 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2015 20:41 sAsImre wrote: Cool to see SKTplaying their in forms player and not slumpo. soO's individual league performance makes me question if you're completely correct. soO has endured so much things that you cannot tell anymore if he is in form or not. He is soO and that's enough.
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On May 15 2015 19:17 Johan-ae wrote: This might be wrong,. Curious is playing instead of MMA according to proleagues facebook page I think it is a mistake, because MMA is written in Korean language and Curious is marked [T]. However official confirmation would be great!
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Why is Bomber playing so much now? What has changed?
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On May 15 2015 21:26 plotspot wrote: Why is Bomber playing so much now? What has changed? He signed the contract with SBENU + they really needed to booster their line-up
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DRG, MMA, Bomber ? So 2011/2012 I'm young again !!!!
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I hope this is a TvP Flash should be able to win, then again he beat Dear not too long ago. So why not. But good to see TY fielded again even if it's against PRIME =|
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Should I trade MMA for Hero in my anti-team in FPL?
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On May 15 2015 22:38 Johan-ae wrote: Should I trade MMA for Hero in my anti-team in FPL? MVP has a real chance to win vs SGK, so HerO can get 1 point. On the other hand, Zest is a much better player than Creator and KT is a much better team than Prime. I doubt Prime will repeat the miracle from round 1. I would say, MMA -> Creator is a much safer bet
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Do you think Zest is more likely to get Creator'd or Flash to be Chinese Protossed?
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Never has been a better time to trade Dark for Life.
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On May 15 2015 17:14 Elentos wrote: I hope KT's coach doesn't just keep using Flash on Vaani and Deadwing over and over and over again like the last round. Just asking to be sniped.
Depends on a lot of things. For example in last year's Proleague, Flash was like 5-0 or 6-0 on Merry Go Round in the final two rounds. So it can definitely pay off to have a player specialize on one map.
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On May 15 2015 22:55 OtherWorld wrote: Do you think Zest is more likely to get Creator'd or Flash to be Chinese Protossed? I actually think it'll be quick 3-0, maybe 3-1 (Yoda). But I'm pretty sure you can't trade MMA -> MacSed. MMA -> Creator is possible, if current adjusted trade values are correct.
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I think Sbenu has a great shot if they send it to an ace match and send out Bomber vs Maru. Every match this week looks interesting besides Prime and KT.
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Lotta pressure on Dream in SKT vs. CJ.
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On May 15 2015 23:05 IAmWithStupid wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2015 22:55 OtherWorld wrote: Do you think Zest is more likely to get Creator'd or Flash to be Chinese Protossed? I actually think it'll be quick 3-0, maybe 3-1 (Yoda). But I'm pretty sure you can't trade MMA -> MacSed. MMA -> Creator is possible, if current adjusted trade values are correct. Yeah but my goal was to know if it was riskier to keep Zest or to trade him for FlaSh d:
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Everyone from my FPL is playing, heck YEAH !
Only one from anti, lets hope MMA loses.
Otherwise those lineups are quite sick, can't wait for mkp vs bravo , dream vs byul and life vs keen.
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On May 15 2015 23:29 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2015 23:05 IAmWithStupid wrote:On May 15 2015 22:55 OtherWorld wrote: Do you think Zest is more likely to get Creator'd or Flash to be Chinese Protossed? I actually think it'll be quick 3-0, maybe 3-1 (Yoda). But I'm pretty sure you can't trade MMA -> MacSed. MMA -> Creator is possible, if current adjusted trade values are correct. Yeah but my goal was to know if it was riskier to keep Zest or to trade him for FlaSh d: Oh, I've misread that. Here are some thoughts.
1. Some say, PvP is a coin flip. Moreover, in Bo1 everything is possible. However you can't compare the level of these two players. On paper Zest should outplay Creator at any day (look at today's herO vs Patience).
2. Flash is vulnerable to early aggression / cheeses. Btw, it was mentioned today by Tastosis several times. Again, if we compare the class of the players...
The bottom line is: on paper, both Zest and Flash should win their matches. If you trade Zest -> Flash, you lose 1 point in trading. So, my idea is to leave Zest on the team.
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Solar GuMiho, Dear Losira, BrAvO MarineKing, every SKT vs CJ game, every Jin Air vs SBENU game, Zest Creator rematch, so excited!!!
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On May 15 2015 23:41 IAmWithStupid wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2015 23:29 OtherWorld wrote:On May 15 2015 23:05 IAmWithStupid wrote:On May 15 2015 22:55 OtherWorld wrote: Do you think Zest is more likely to get Creator'd or Flash to be Chinese Protossed? I actually think it'll be quick 3-0, maybe 3-1 (Yoda). But I'm pretty sure you can't trade MMA -> MacSed. MMA -> Creator is possible, if current adjusted trade values are correct. Yeah but my goal was to know if it was riskier to keep Zest or to trade him for FlaSh d: Oh, I've misread that. Here are some thoughts. 1. Some say, PvP is a coin flip. Moreover, in Bo1 everything is possible. However you can't compare the level of these two players. On paper Zest should outplay Creator at any day (look at today's herO vs Patience). 2. Flash is vulnerable to early aggression / cheeses. Btw, it was mentioned today by Tastosis several times. Again, if we compare the class of the players... The bottom line is: on paper, both Zest and Flash should win their matches. If you trade Zest -> Flash, you lose 1 point in trading. So, my idea is to leave Zest on the team. Fair enough, I think I'll keep Zest
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On May 15 2015 23:53 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2015 23:41 IAmWithStupid wrote:On May 15 2015 23:29 OtherWorld wrote:On May 15 2015 23:05 IAmWithStupid wrote:On May 15 2015 22:55 OtherWorld wrote: Do you think Zest is more likely to get Creator'd or Flash to be Chinese Protossed? I actually think it'll be quick 3-0, maybe 3-1 (Yoda). But I'm pretty sure you can't trade MMA -> MacSed. MMA -> Creator is possible, if current adjusted trade values are correct. Yeah but my goal was to know if it was riskier to keep Zest or to trade him for FlaSh d: Oh, I've misread that. Here are some thoughts. 1. Some say, PvP is a coin flip. Moreover, in Bo1 everything is possible. However you can't compare the level of these two players. On paper Zest should outplay Creator at any day (look at today's herO vs Patience). 2. Flash is vulnerable to early aggression / cheeses. Btw, it was mentioned today by Tastosis several times. Again, if we compare the class of the players... The bottom line is: on paper, both Zest and Flash should win their matches. If you trade Zest -> Flash, you lose 1 point in trading. So, my idea is to leave Zest on the team. Fair enough, I think I'll keep Zest One more thing. When Zest loses and Flash wins, don't blame me. Leaving Zest (I think I'll trade Classic -> Zest) on the team is a rational decision, but life has very little to do with rationality. Unfortunately.
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Damn, I was GOING to root for the Chinese players everytime, but my only exceptions were: if they play vs herO; if they play vs Flash... Sorry MacSed..
SKT v CJ is a definite must watch though. This is gonna be a good week of PL
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On May 16 2015 00:00 IAmWithStupid wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2015 23:53 OtherWorld wrote:On May 15 2015 23:41 IAmWithStupid wrote:On May 15 2015 23:29 OtherWorld wrote:On May 15 2015 23:05 IAmWithStupid wrote:On May 15 2015 22:55 OtherWorld wrote: Do you think Zest is more likely to get Creator'd or Flash to be Chinese Protossed? I actually think it'll be quick 3-0, maybe 3-1 (Yoda). But I'm pretty sure you can't trade MMA -> MacSed. MMA -> Creator is possible, if current adjusted trade values are correct. Yeah but my goal was to know if it was riskier to keep Zest or to trade him for FlaSh d: Oh, I've misread that. Here are some thoughts. 1. Some say, PvP is a coin flip. Moreover, in Bo1 everything is possible. However you can't compare the level of these two players. On paper Zest should outplay Creator at any day (look at today's herO vs Patience). 2. Flash is vulnerable to early aggression / cheeses. Btw, it was mentioned today by Tastosis several times. Again, if we compare the class of the players... The bottom line is: on paper, both Zest and Flash should win their matches. If you trade Zest -> Flash, you lose 1 point in trading. So, my idea is to leave Zest on the team. Fair enough, I think I'll keep Zest One more thing. When Zest loses and Flash wins, don't blame me. Leaving Zest (I think I'll trade Classic -> Zest) on the team is a rational decision, but life has very little to do with rationality. Unfortunately.
Normally I would totally agree with your reasoning however there is 1 but: http://aligulac.com/players/1658/results/?after=2015-01-01&before=&event=Proleague 2015&race=p&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= Zest already lost to Creator twice in PL, the question is: is it a fluke?
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Creator outplayed Zest in both of those games.
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No Stats? KT Rolster WTF this screws up my FPL team plan D:
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Creator is gonna beat Zest guys, you should trade Zest away!
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Prime got horrible matchups
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the SKT vs CJ match looks really good. lol @ innovation benched
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On May 16 2015 01:28 Shellshock wrote: the SKT vs CJ match looks really good. lol @ innovation benched Gonna be a stomp if Dream can't take out Byul. I sppose Bbyong Classic has potential as well. Aligulac seems to disagree though it doesn't account for the way classic has been playing.
(1931) Classic 0-0 Bbyong (2183) ------------------------------------------- 38.99% 1-0 0-1 61.01% ------------------------------------------- 38.99% 61.01%
Median outcome: Classic 0-1 Bbyong Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
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On May 16 2015 01:02 egrimm wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2015 00:00 IAmWithStupid wrote:On May 15 2015 23:53 OtherWorld wrote:On May 15 2015 23:41 IAmWithStupid wrote:On May 15 2015 23:29 OtherWorld wrote:On May 15 2015 23:05 IAmWithStupid wrote:On May 15 2015 22:55 OtherWorld wrote: Do you think Zest is more likely to get Creator'd or Flash to be Chinese Protossed? I actually think it'll be quick 3-0, maybe 3-1 (Yoda). But I'm pretty sure you can't trade MMA -> MacSed. MMA -> Creator is possible, if current adjusted trade values are correct. Yeah but my goal was to know if it was riskier to keep Zest or to trade him for FlaSh d: Oh, I've misread that. Here are some thoughts. 1. Some say, PvP is a coin flip. Moreover, in Bo1 everything is possible. However you can't compare the level of these two players. On paper Zest should outplay Creator at any day (look at today's herO vs Patience). 2. Flash is vulnerable to early aggression / cheeses. Btw, it was mentioned today by Tastosis several times. Again, if we compare the class of the players... The bottom line is: on paper, both Zest and Flash should win their matches. If you trade Zest -> Flash, you lose 1 point in trading. So, my idea is to leave Zest on the team. Fair enough, I think I'll keep Zest One more thing. When Zest loses and Flash wins, don't blame me. Leaving Zest (I think I'll trade Classic -> Zest) on the team is a rational decision, but life has very little to do with rationality. Unfortunately. Normally I would totally agree with your reasoning however there is 1 but: http://aligulac.com/players/1658/results/?after=2015-01-01&before=&event=Proleague 2015&race=p&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=Zest already lost to Creator twice in PL, the question is: is it a fluke? MIRACLE! Someone, call Vatican!
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On May 16 2015 01:25 Silvana wrote: Creator is gonna beat Zest guys, you should trade Zest away! Strange words from a girl who has KT Rolster icon in the signature...
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On May 16 2015 01:38 IAmWithStupid wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2015 01:25 Silvana wrote: Creator is gonna beat Zest guys, you should trade Zest away! Strange words from a girl who has KT Rolster icon in the signature... Because she's trying to make people take bad decisions, don't worry d:
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Whoa, TY being fielded. And whoo! Here comes the legendary team killer, MMA!
MMA has a good chance of beating Cure since MMA's TvT has always been strong, especially when some of his best play came during the Terran era. I doubt Cure can out harass and out drop MMA.
Also, I could see this lineup being SBENU's go to lineup weekly. Maybe throw in Leenock or Curious when MMA can't play, since MMA is a merc.
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On May 16 2015 01:25 Silvana wrote: Creator is gonna beat Zest guys, you should trade Zest away!
Well, if Creator's PvP is on point as it was in the 2 weeks that he beat Zest twice and $O$, then Creator should win. But, Zest did make some pretty significant mistakes in both of his losses (1st game: being too aggressive with blink Stalkers and not getting upgrades; 2nd game: no observer to see for DTs)
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On May 16 2015 01:42 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2015 01:38 IAmWithStupid wrote:On May 16 2015 01:25 Silvana wrote: Creator is gonna beat Zest guys, you should trade Zest away! Strange words from a girl who has KT Rolster icon in the signature... Because she's trying to make people take bad decisions, don't worry d:
One has to resort to every special tactics at hand when the first week of FPL has been disastrous.
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Who should i trade away MMA for in my Anti-team? :O
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WTH! The Machine going in for repair this week...not looking good for me this FPL week.
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Where dat snitch at?36671 Posts
No INnoVation T-T... The slump is real...
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On May 16 2015 04:09 Johan-ae wrote: Who should i trade away MMA for in my Anti-team? :O I'd say HerO or Leenock depending on which team between MVP and Sbenu you think will win. Or if you want to go full idiot balls to the wall, INnoVation since he's in a slump.
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Flash vs Macsed, man... I want Chinese players to win but that Flash
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On May 16 2015 04:26 Caihead wrote: Flash vs Macsed, man... I want Chinese players to win but that Flash I feel worse for Keen.
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On May 16 2015 04:34 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2015 04:26 Caihead wrote: Flash vs Macsed, man... I want Chinese players to win but that Flash I feel worse for Keen. I don't think he'll get to play so that's not the worst fate.
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On May 16 2015 04:38 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2015 04:34 ThomasjServo wrote:On May 16 2015 04:26 Caihead wrote: Flash vs Macsed, man... I want Chinese players to win but that Flash I feel worse for Keen. I don't think he'll get to play so that's not the worst fate. Good point, maybe that was what Gerrard was thinking.
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This Bbyong/Classic team kill is pretty rough for me but I don't think I can afford to trade either of them. Trading away Myungsik this week while he is still relatively high value seems necessary with this matchup. This week is going to be interesting. Have to set things up for the long term.
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God that Sbenu team MMA hype!
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On May 15 2015 18:25 Swisslink wrote: I hoped for a non TvP matchup for Maru... but... well... not gonna happen :-/ I still think vs Zerg/Terran he's not even near as unbeatable as against Toss, vs zerg i agree but vs terran? he just beat dream 4-1 last starleague, innovation in proleague, ty in gsl. who else is there really
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On May 16 2015 07:16 Rain.100 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2015 18:25 Swisslink wrote: I hoped for a non TvP matchup for Maru... but... well... not gonna happen :-/ I still think vs Zerg/Terran he's not even near as unbeatable as against Toss, vs zerg i agree but vs terran? he just beat dream 4-1 last starleague, innovation in proleague, ty in gsl. who else is there really Look at SBENU's lineup - Bomber is a TvT monster, MMA can be given enough preparation. And that's only taking SBENU's lineup, obviously.
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macsed
double proxy robo
not 1, but 2 robos
thats right
2 proxied robos next to your natural
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On May 16 2015 07:23 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2015 07:16 Rain.100 wrote:On May 15 2015 18:25 Swisslink wrote: I hoped for a non TvP matchup for Maru... but... well... not gonna happen :-/ I still think vs Zerg/Terran he's not even near as unbeatable as against Toss, vs zerg i agree but vs terran? he just beat dream 4-1 last starleague, innovation in proleague, ty in gsl. who else is there really Look at SBENU's lineup - Bomber is a TvT monster, MMA can be given enough preparation. And that's only taking SBENU's lineup, obviously. Bomber was, but who knows for sure now? All we've seen is him beat an under-performing Innovation recently. Bomber has so few games this year who knows how good he really is right now
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On May 16 2015 08:21 mikumegurine wrote: macsed
double proxy robo
not 1, but 2 robos
thats right
2 proxied robos next to your natural
double proxy robo into double observer into double collosus (with out range of course)?
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On May 15 2015 17:03 Elentos wrote: Oh wow Prime is the deadest. TY vs YoDa, Flash vs MacSed, Zest vs Creator, Life vs KeeN, RIP.
Their potential to get 0-7 is strong this season.
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On May 16 2015 10:21 usopsama wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2015 17:03 Elentos wrote: Oh wow Prime is the deadest. TY vs YoDa, Flash vs MacSed, Zest vs Creator, Life vs KeeN, RIP. Their potential to get 0-7 is strong this season. at least they wouldnt be the first. makes it slightly more bearable
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Wow, how the hell are people saying Prime got unlucky...I think they got as good a draw as they could ever hope for! Yoda got his best matchup, Creator got his best matchup (he's already beat Zest in PL TWICE) and they got a Protoss against Flash. The only clear disadvantage for Prime in matchups is Keen vs Life. As much as Life has been slumping a little in PL, Keen has been a 100% non-factor (a shame, as I used to be a real fan of the guy). Of course Prime is still the underdog, but if you wanna talk about real bad luck with the draw, I think Sbenu got it worse, comparatively.
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On May 16 2015 12:10 jubil wrote: Wow, how the hell are people saying Prime got unlucky...I think they got as good a draw as they could ever hope for! Yoda got his best matchup, Creator got his best matchup (he's already beat Zest in PL TWICE) and they got a Protoss against Flash. The only clear disadvantage for Prime in matchups is Keen vs Life. As much as Life has been slumping a little in PL, Keen has been a 100% non-factor (a shame, as I used to be a real fan of the guy). Of course Prime is still the underdog, but if you wanna talk about real bad luck with the draw, I think Sbenu got it worse, comparatively. Because it is Prime vs. KT. The only more snowball's chance it hell it gets at the moment is Prime vs. CJ.
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Maybe its wrong thread but when will be the trades for FPL open?
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Where in fucking god's name is Stats? Rest Flash rather, he's not that good anymore anyway............. FML!
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Staying up tonight to watch Flash v MacSed. Really excited for that match for some reason!
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