On June 01 2015 11:07 showstealer1829 wrote: Welp this drawing simply confirms 5 Koreans in the Ro8 of the WCS World tournament designed to lock out Koreans
GG Blizz GG Korea
I'd say 3 confirmed. Bunny can pull the unexpected...
and JD is JD
JD still has a >90% match win rate against foreign zergs (75-6) and he gets to face 2 of them. would be shocking to me if he doesn't get out
On June 01 2015 20:14 Snotling wrote: How is polt still a favourite after the way he stumbeld through the ro32? he will have to do a lot better to get anywere....
Polt always stumbles around in the group stages. If he makes it to the playoffs he enters god mode and becomes nigh-undefeatable for the players in WCS.
He enters a group with three absolute top foreigners (under Bunny). He sould advance but it won't be easy in any case ! Also, he has the three match ups to prepare for While a weaker korean like stardust (nowadays) has only PvZ to practice. Polt will definitely have to raise his level of play from what we've seen in the ro32 !
Bunny / Hydra (b/c Bunny will enter god mode) Polt / Marinelord (b/c harstem is weaker in TvP, Marinelord if he plays at his real level go through, and b/c I don't like Firecake huhu ) Lilbow / Iaguz (b/c Lilbow is the best foreign PvZ, thus that creates a room for Iaguz if he can replicate his solid TvZ bomber-style) Jaedong / Stardust (b/c Jaedong, and Stardust has only MU to prepare, Petrodollarus has a good shot)
Given that Bunny is now the foreign hope, it's a good group for him. If a foreigner is to take a Blizzcon spot from a top Korean, let him at least somehow prove himself against mid-tier ones to partly justify his presence there.
I'd prefer to not have a foreigner at Blizzcon at all rather than have one that is so inferior to mid-tier Koreans that even his fans don't give him much chance against them.
Everyone uses group of death to mean hardest though, you gotta use phrases the same way everyone else does to communicate, though your rationalization is solid. I think of the hardest group as the group of death because its the most stacked and therefore even great players, who would make it far in other groups, will get eliminated
Yes, I think the 'hardest' group is Group B because every player in there could easily lose their matches to everyone else.
Whereas in Group A, I think ForGG and Hydra will have an easier time of it than Bunny or Gungfu.
A good way to explain the 'group of death' is this. Let's say hypothetically there was a 17th player, and he got to choose what group he was put into. This is a completely generic player who has no preferred matchups and no history with any of the other 16 players. Whichever group he would least want to be put into is the potential group of death. Whichever group would give that player the worst chance of advancing. A true group of death, if there is one, should really be significantly scarier than the other groups. As in, the player might say "Whoa, I don't want to go in that group, that's the group of death!"
So yes, the group with the highest total skill level among it's players is the one that might be a group of death. It's not about which group is the hardest to predict or most evenly matched, it's about which group if you stuck a player in it would give that player the lowest chance of advancing. I guarantee if you switched any of the players from Group A with a player from any of the other groups the Group A player's chances of advancing would go up (even the players who may be favorites to advance already would still see their chances increase.)
That's what the group of death is.
Looking it up, that's not quite it. It's a group with more strong competitors than there are spots--the group with the best player(s) that will be inevitably eliminated. A group with herO, Life and two bronze leaguers would therefore not be a group of death, while your definition would consider it so.
That being said I'd still consider group A the group of death as I consider the two players eliminated from Group A to be bigger contenders in a vacuum than the two players eliminated from Group B.
omg the definition of "group of death"!! How did you do it ? ^^ ps :i laugh so much with "a good way to explain" followed by 20 lines (17th player??:roll
wait a minute....it just hits me....balance race tournament!!! so weird
Group B actually is very strong. Polt won last season and is always able to perform well if it matters. MLord and Firecake are also in very good shape atm. And Harstem is also able to play insanely well, even though he has struggled recently due to his health issues.